Everyone HAS to install Power Run

[palmjob]

OK, installed and use Power Run and it is an excellent program. Allows you to run virtually any app from the MS. Pay the guy his money and use the program. You won't be sorry.
John Schiller

[jedix]

I know. It's a lifesaver! Or, actually, memory saver! It has really helped me out alot. I give it two palms up!

[martindale]

No issue. This one is an absolute requirement.

[n2ifp]

So far haven't needed it. I use ZLauncher with 100+ apps and still have 5.4 mb free.

[mashoutposse]

PowerRUN is a killer app. Does double duty as an uninstaller as well as a space saver.

[yorrick]

PiDirect II does a good job too. Better in some respects since it doesn't copy the program from MS to CLIE memory to run the program, but it copies portions of the executable.

That way, you have a program that starts faster and requires less free RAM to execute the programs.

[stevek]

I find it useless so far. I mean all of my apps need to be synced or have alarms. the biggest ones my database I could put everything on the card but every time I needed to update it I would have to move the files manually. my bankbook could be moved but it is not that big and slows it down.
so it is not always useful.

[jedix]

Well, as I see it, as long as you have a program that does what power run does, then you got a great program. I know that there are differences, but they all seem to be pretty helpful.

[stevek]

I did not say it was bad but for me usless as it has so many limitations.

[jedix]

It was worth it for me simply to move netfront, let alone other programs!

[MerlinW]

I think most people with a NX are using either powerRun, or pidirectII, it's a must have.

Merlin,N6OFY

[stevek]

I don't use that but yes that would help. I have about 2.5 megs free most of the time. less when I open a app with word to go. even though it is on the card.
one way to free space is to back up everything then go through the directory and remove the junk you don't know about (after you have copied the folder. leave the apps and related files do a hard reset and a restore and see how much space you free up. lots of junk gets stored you don't need.

[rldunn]

Originally posted by yorrick
PiDirect II does a good job too. Better in some respects since it doesn't copy the program from MS to CLIE memory to run the program, but it copies portions of the executable.

That way, you have a program that starts faster and requires less free RAM to execute the programs. PiDirect doesn't work on the NX.

[TheUltimate]

this program is a must for us NX users!!

[yorrick]

rdlunn - thanks for correcting me on this one. I completely forgot about this small point! :)

[GoldenTiger]

I tried powerrun 1.2, but it keeps resulting in a hard reset loop =\.

[Doug Matthews]

I keep getting resets as well!!

[birick]

Originally posted by stevek
I find it useless so far. I mean all of my apps need to be synced or have alarms. the biggest ones my database I could put everything on the card but every time I needed to update it I would have to move the files manually. my bankbook could be moved but it is not that big and slows it down.
so it is not always useful.

All of my programs that sync work fine under Powerrun. You shouldn't have to move program manually, that's what pPowerRun does. I do leave my alarm program in RAM, but I have 76 programs loaded, 8.3m free RAM. and everything runs great.

[stevek]

right from the instructions

*Hot Sync will not backup that application and its data
*Global find cannot find data in that application, except when the *application is running
*Application alarms will not come up
*Application conduits will not work

so if the application conduits don't work how are you syncing them?

[stevek]

you only need a couple megs free so why so much on the card? every app pretty much runs slower. or I should say loads slower. I want everything to run as fast as possible.

[birick]

When I add data to my db and then close it, the curent data goes back to MS. When I sync, BBVFS backs up the MS.

Let's say I want to get current weather and exchange rates for Worldmate. When I sync, the data goes to ram and the first time I open Worldmate, it sees the update and updates its self.

I agree on the alarms, thats why I leave my primary alarm program in RAM.

My encyclopedia need 7.something to open in RAM, so I try to keep 8m free.

[existenz]

Originally posted by MerlinW
I think most people with a NX are using either powerRun, or pidirectII, it's a must have.



I'm actually just using LauncherX to handle all my MS management.

Is Power Run or PiDirect any better? Or is it a different thing altogether?

[Michael Quach]

PowerRun is one the best programs out there.... indispensible....

[sebring]

Tried PowerRun on my N610 and found it to be unacceptably slow. Maybe the NX, with it's much faster processor overcomes some of that, but I suspect most of the delay was card access and that isn't processor dependent.

[slick19er]

I transfer the program to MS with SS and then run it through there. No need to getPower Run

[profvisor]

Veri-chat and Netfront to the MS. I am under the impression that these two apps cannot be run from the MS using Zlauncher. Is that incorrect?

[profvisor]

What about Netfront.... Hmmm....

[eyesee]

Originally posted by stevek
right from the instructions

*Hot Sync will not backup that application and its data
*Global find cannot find data in that application, except when the *application is running
*Application alarms will not come up
*Application conduits will not work

so if the application conduits don't work how are you syncing them?

I personally haven't tried this out yet, but it is my understanding that you could load the trial version of LauncherX, create a "shortcut" in RAM for each of the applications on your card you would like hot-synced, and then you do not necessarily have to keep LX on your handheld.  Like I said, I have just done some reading on this... for more detailed info on the subject see this great website...

http://www.launchplug.com/Conduit.html

[profvisor]

Whew! I tried using Zlauncher to move Netfront and it just caused a cascading series of errors. Then I couldn't get it back to the way it was (I kept getting messages that the RAM was full, even though there was 6.5 M free). Luckily, I have a MS backup on my hard drive and so I was able to restore it that way. So... I guess that Zlauncher will not work to move Netfront.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by existenz


I'm actually just using LauncherX to handle all my MS management.

Is Power Run or PiDirect any better? Or is it a different thing altogether?

There are many threads on the issues of compatibility between PowerRun and a few
app's out there.
I would advise those of you who are experiencing problems [hard resets, loop resets]
to search within ClieSource each engine for the previous threads on PowerRun,
PIDirect, MSMount, and even a program called MemHack [which is OS5
compatible], etc....
As for PiDirect it does not work on a OS5 unit, and the company has stated, [it has
been posted in the previous threads] that they have no intention of creating a OS5
version.

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by existenz
I'm actually just using LauncherX to handle all my MS management.
Is Power Run or PiDirect any better? Or is it a different thing altogether? PowerRun actually moves all program files . . . INCLUDING DATABASES.  For example.  With LauncherX, I can move TVBrowser to my card and it runs fine.  With PowerRun, I can move both app and databases (one of which weighs in at 2.5 meg) to the card.  It's a pretty substantial savings, in my book, anyhow.  ;)

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by profvisor
Whew! I tried using Zlauncher to move Netfront and it just caused a cascading series of errors. Then I couldn't get it back to the way it was (I kept getting messages that the RAM was full, even though there was 6.5 M free). Luckily, I have a MS backup on my hard drive and so I was able to restore it that way. So... I guess that Zlauncher will not work to move Netfront.

You need PowerRun to move NetFront to the memory stick or get PocketLink II.

[mjn]

PowerRun is great.. but i tend to get back to OS.. When is the PALMOS going to extends its limitation on Main Ram size and the "ease of use" for the VFS?????
as still, Power Run is great.
***anybody got nz w/ powerrun? move powerrun to MS and zip the folder and send it to me.. (::)

[mjn]

sorry, i am meant pixxxl vixxxr

[jedix]

Just think, if our pda's had 32 mb , how many less copies of powerrun would be sold.

[hupokadsfa]

I also use Launcher X, and as I read these posts I don't think I've seen a definitive reply as to whether any of these other programs are better.
I guess the one question I have to ask is: if I have already paid for Launcher X, why should I then pay more money for another program that does pretty much the same thing? Is it that much better?

[hupokadsfa]

One more thing I forgot to add, does it open the program faster?

[ShellyBelly]

ARGGHHHH, I can't get it to run on my NX!!

Anyone else have this problem, it doesn't come up with the screen where you select to use it as you first run the program?????

[mjn]

don't get it ShellyBelly..
which version do you use? is powerrun on mainflash?

[stevek]

after playing a bit powerrun does a better job. it gets all of the app out of ram. where launcherx can leave bits. I just moved TV bowser onto the card with powerun. then I downloaded the new data for it. once I ran it it fond the new data and once I closed it it moved it back to the card.

[mjn]

problem with powerrun is that any conduit based sync won't work since its not on mainram..
although, like worldmate, if you have worldmate running, hit the hotsync, then the conduit will work. (since hitting hotsync while running a worldmate will not close powerun. this means that worldmate is temporarily in main ram while hotsync is running.

[stevek]

yes this was what prevented me from using it. but after some playing around it does move all of the files where launcherx misses some.
I don't want to move handbase for one it would 7 seven seconds to load and I want it to sync too. so it is limited for me but I think I will buy it to keep my ram clean. and it does work well on apps like TV browser as it will move the files it uploads without my doing it.

[mashoutposse]

Originally posted by jedix
Just think, if our pda's had 32 mb , how many less copies of powerrun would be sold.

I have about 100 apps loaded through PowerRUN, so I'd still buy it :)

[stevek]

how many of those 100 apps do you use?

[birick]

Originally posted by mjn
problem with powerrun is that any conduit based sync won't work since its not on mainram..
although, like worldmate, if you have worldmate running, hit the hotsync, then the conduit will work. (since hitting hotsync while running a worldmate will not close powerun. this means that worldmate is temporarily in main ram while hotsync is running.

I don't have to do that with WorldMate. Anytime I sync (without WorldMate running) the conduit loads the update for WorldMate to RAM. The next time I run WorldMate it gets the update.

[OcellNuri]

Originally posted by birick


I don't have to do that with WorldMate. Anytime I sync (without WorldMate running) the conduit loads the update for WorldMate to RAM. The next time I run WorldMate it gets the update.

Sounds to me like conduits are going to work fine if they are one-way. If you are just updating the database on the Clie with new information from the PC, then maybe there is not a problem. I can see a problem, though, when you have updated information on the Clie. If the database file is on the MS it will not get synced to the PC.

[jedix]

Originally posted by mashoutposse


I have about 100 apps loaded through PowerRUN, so I'd still buy it :)

well, I didn't say nobody would buy it, but I think an extra 16 mb would take care of many people. I don't think ms sales would drop too much, because I think the ms has more general purposes at sony, and sales would only be affected slightly. But powerrun is much more specific, with a much more specific audience, and would be directly affected.

[stevek]

powerrun works if the data does not have to be syncrinized. but if it does need it that app can't be on the card. such as splash photo and several others.

[gnlew]

Manly Yes...and I like it too..

[birick]

Stevek-

Splash photo seems to be working fine with PowerRun. I just added some photo's using splash, and they loaded to RAM on sync and splash picked them up when I ran it. Not sure what I'm doing right, just lucky I quess since my NX is smarter than I am! I do have to manually move the photo's to the proper folder if I want to use them as a ZL back image.

[n0m0n]

Well I have found that AvantGo does not work when it is on the MS via PowerRun.
But it dose work when it is on the MS in the Launch folder.
I don't understand why since AGConnect is what negotiates the sync.

[jovy]

PowerRun is a wonderful utility. But it's not compatible with sony msbackup. The shortcut was lost after restoreing from MS. I have to us ClifFile to move files from MS back to RAM then run PowerRun again to move them to MS.

[pixelated]

Originally posted by jovy
PowerRun is a wonderful utility. But it's not compatible with sony msbackup. The shortcut was lost after restoreing from MS. I have to us ClifFile to move files from MS back to RAM then run PowerRun again to move them to MS.

 

actually----yes it does---after you do a backup restoring----all you have to do is refresh the apps in powerrun and all the icons appear again

[jovy]

Originally posted by pixelated


 

actually----yes it does---after you do a backup restoring----all you have to do is refresh the apps in powerrun and all the icons appear again

Thanks! I'll give it a try

[ojleblanc]

Originally posted by slick19er
I transfer the program to MS with SS and then run it through there. No need to getPower Run

Does Silver Screen copy both the application & associated database to the MS like PowerRun does?

If so, does it have the same issue as PowerRun with not backing up the files during Hotsync?

I'm using a demo of PowerRun and Silver Screen, but didn't know I may be able to get the functionality of PowerRun right from Silver Screen. A bit more info. would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks