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gusanitoverde
03-03-2004, 01:15 PM
I am a Clie NZ90 user and my friend has another handheld. She uses hers.

One of the most difficult experiences I have had with Palm Powered devices. A friend of mine who works as a Children and Family Counsleor runs a Pentium III Computer, and is synchronizing her handheld with it. She quite depends on it. She called me to troubleshoot her handheld which “would reset over and over and stopped syncing”.
I went to her place thinking “no problem” I have had many palm powered devices and troubleshoot problems like that many times in different brands of Palm powered computers.

This one was hard…

As soon as I looked at the device and tried hotsyncing, it did not responded. I reset the unit, and reset again bringing the following screen: “SystemMgr.c, Line:5852, SyslinkerStub():Failed to load the shared library.”
Once I determined that I was not going anywhere, I hard reset the unit. I went through the welcome screens, and before I could get to any program the handheld froze bringing the reset screen. Once I manually reset the unit, the handheld will never sync again, since the Connection PC/Cradle has disappeared from the unit.

(I wrote a thread in regards to this common problem after hard reset. The workaround is creating a “Custom Connection”, configure it to connect to PC through the cradle. It should sync now with the custom connection. After synchronization, if it all went fine, the “Connection to PC/Cradle” should be restored from the back up files in the PC, but if the Palm could no longer get it’s info from the old back up files. The connection is definitely lost and the user, from now on, will have to abide by the “Custom Connection”)

Then, after I created the “Custom Connection”, I made a backup of the Palm Folder in the desktop, I tried syncing, and it did. However at the end of the synchronization, I noticed that it did not sync the data of the main applications (Address Book, Date Book, Memo Pad, and To do). Then the screen came again saying: “SystemMgr.c, Line:5852, SyslinkerStub():Failed to load the shared library.”

Next, I checked the conduits, I had to hard reset the unit, to clean up the unit from whatever was synchronized to it, and did all the procedure described in the paragraph above to be able to sync. I tried over and over to sync and the conduits will not work. One time, I tried to change all conduits to “Desktop overwrites handheld”, and it didn’t work. No data was displayed in the handheld, and the PC will bring the message that the handheld is full and could not sync. I tried decreasing the speed in the synchronization, it didn’t work. Finally, I uninstalled the Palm Desktop Software and re-installed it again and it never worked. Same screen would appear: “SystemMgr.c, Line:5852, SyslinkerStub():Failed to load the shared library.”


My next try was to create a new user and transfer the main application data to the handheld, maybe a third party program was causing the problem. So, I hard reset, the unit, of course: it froze, reset, created custom conduit, (PC Conduit is now lost since I can not restore the connection from the original back up folder) and synchronized through this custom conduit. In the fist sync, it did all fine. Then, to recover the data of the main applications: in the PC, I replaced the address book, date book, memo pad, note pad, and to do list folders of the old user name into the new user name. Then, I found out that the information did not sync right, not all of the data was synchronized. The hotsync log in the PC said that the handheld if full. Then, just for curiosity, I looked at the information in the handheld and I could not believe that 51 Mb out of 52 Mb were used. No programs to delete, No large files, I transferred “File Z” into the handheld and it showed the same thing. Ladies and gentleman, 51Mb of this handheld are locked into this device somehow and I cannot use them.

Is this a corrupt ROM? How do you troubleshoot it? I am aiming to sync again the device to the old user name folder.

I told my friend that I would write to the Cliesource Community to get help.

Savvy Users, Moderators, any ideas??? Please!!!

JerryAllen
03-03-2004, 01:39 PM
One ... you have never identified the "other" device other than "another handheld". Does it have a brand name ... like "Sony Model bla bla"?

Two ... Have you attempted to contact the maker of this "other handheld" device and have them decipher this cryptic message?

This like asking a question about Photoshop without ever telling anyone you are really talking about Illustrator ... or ... is this just a test of our psychic powers? Cheers ... :-)

Jerry

cerberus
03-03-2004, 01:40 PM
So after the hard reset, the 52MB internal memory is full? What device has 52MB of internal memory? Are you sure it's internal memory and not external like a MS or CF card? Anyway, have you tried to install on a different machine? I would give that a shot as well. Also, check to see if there are any updates for her Palm desktop software. You might also close all unnecessary programs that might be running on the PC to see if something is interfering with the hotsync.

winexprt
03-03-2004, 01:47 PM
This HAS to be a Palm Brand device I assume. T|x-series possibly?

No SONY devices come with THAT much RAM (52 MB) THAT's for sure!! lol

I agree. First thing you should do is contact the maker of that device. THEN go from there.

NZ Rocks!
03-04-2004, 09:22 AM
52Mb- would seem to me relating to either a Tungsten T|x or a Tungsten C model. If the case is a T3 or a C, Palm has posted updates for these machines that could eventually do the trick. Since you say that you can actually get the machine to sync once before hell breaks loose, it's worth a shot.

HTH

gusanitoverde
03-04-2004, 12:51 PM
You guys are really smart, to say the truth, the handheld is a T3, but I have seen this problem in clie devices, no matter which is it. They all use Palm OS. I do appreciate your help. It is just that the last time I made a thread about this issue when it happened in my Clié, most people that replied could not figure out how to help since their handhelds would still sync after hard reset.

Guys, Why would a Palm Powered device, in this case our Clié, loose the connection to PC/Cradle upon Hard Reset?

gusanitoverde
03-04-2004, 12:52 PM
By the way, my NZ90 lost its connection, but I was able to back up with the original folder afterwards.