In The Scale 1 - 10 I Give 9 To The Nz90

[GEORGECLIE]

TELL US WHAT'S YOURS AND WHY ?

[mape245]

I give it a 9....it has some minor faults: stylus; a little bulky; and poor battery life. I still am a bigger fan of the pocket pc operating system.....but this thing is cooler than anything I've ever seen!

[BRiC]

cast your 'vote' here, if you haven't already.

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4229

[markga]

Agree Mape, but I've been a Palm IIIxe/M505 user for years. I'm still getting used to the CLie Launcher thingy

[starstreak]

I gave it a 8. Size wise its ok. Stylus (bad location). Blue lettering (poor to see in poor light). Battery life is ok, Just a tad worse than my old HP5455. Bluetooth for now is a bit flakey (and I'm using it with a t68i). Menus take some time to get used to. I want to say the wheel is on thewrong side, but I dunno.

Oh and untill I figure it out, all palms sucks to transfering outlook. If someone can tell me how I can get a 100% transfer like my Pocketpc I'll be a happy camper.

Haha one more thing, faster charging times. 4 hours for 5 hours of use isn't a quick charger. It should do it in around 2hours to be good.

[davy19]

Originally posted by starstreak
I gave it a 8. Size wise its ok. Stylus (bad location). Blue lettering (poor to see in poor light). Battery life is ok, Just a tad worse than my old HP5455. Bluetooth for now is a bit flakey (and I'm using it with a t68i). Menus take some time to get used to. I want to say the wheel is on thewrong side, but I dunno.

Oh and untill I figure it out, all palms sucks to transfering outlook. If someone can tell me how I can get a 100% transfer like my Pocketpc I'll be a happy camper.

Haha one more thing, faster charging times. 4 hours for 5 hours of use isn't a quick charger. It should do it in around 2hours to be good.


for the outlook issue not sure how you are doing but I am able to sync with outlook with np with clie mail

[starstreak]

Originally posted by davy19

for the outlook issue not sure how you are doing but I am able to sync with outlook with np with clie mail

Clie mail? I'm using address book? Not email. Or is that something I should try?

[davy19]

oh i see what you mean, you are syncing your contacts and dates to full version of outlook?


I am just using clie mail to sync my email with outlook, but my addressed and datebook go into palm dekstop.

never tried other way

[starstreak]

ah ok

[Shogmaster]

Originally posted by markga
Agree Mape, but I've been a Palm IIIxe/M505 user for years. I'm still getting used to the CLie Launcher thingy

The first thing I did when I got my NX was put the launcher back to the standard one. The Clie launcher is counter productive IMO.

The standard launcher with small icons is pretty much perfect in 320x480.

And to keep this post on topic, I checked out the NZ at Best Buy, and I was overcome with the desire to get it as soon as possible! The reason: The damn screen is GORGEOUS! When I first looked at the screen on the NZ, I was like "Damn! This thing is like twice as vivid as my NX!" And then I checked the brightness setting and was shocked to find the brightness only half way up! :eek: :D

[LarryB]

Originally posted by GEORGECLIE
TELL US WHAT'S YOURS AND WHY ?

I give it a 5 at best, and this is just after a couple of days and not truly having a chance to test every possible feature.

Here are my top 10 reasons the NZ90 is going back to CompUSA and why I am keeping my NX70V:

1) The “great” 2 MP CCD camera produces grainier pictures than any similar quality camera I have seen. Yes, this is not a standalone digital camera, but this is supposed to be a huge selling point and, IMHO, it falls terribly flat. Even with the flash, higher than normal grain is noticeable, though most people, I am sure, can deal with it. The details, of course, are better than the camera on the NX70V, but the NX70V’s pictures are much smoother and more even in tone and more pleasant to look at for me in many ways.
2) The video capabilities are very poor – and I have tried this with 2 units now. The graininess of the picture in general, coupled with no use of the flash, makes watching videos taken with the NZ90 a chore unless you are in bright outdoor light. Again, the NX70V produces videos that are much smoother and more even in tone…and brighter. The brightness control for video or stills on the NZ90 also doesn’t do much (admittedly it doesn’t do much on the NX70V either, but at least there you start out a nicer look to the shot.) And the 2x digital zoom, generally useless anyway, is absolutely hideous here, while it is quite tolerable on the NX70V.
3) The new camera design does not allow for the lens to swivel independent of the screen. So now, not only are you forced to take any self-pictures in full open mode (where before you could take any picture in tablet mode), but also you have to physically move the whole device to frame a shot instead of just moving the lens.
4) Certain deficiencies in the NX70V haven’t even been remotely addressed like the worthless CF slot (WiFi is still not integrated) and the fact that you only have 11 MB of internal memory available.
5) There is a heavier antiglare coating on the screen, perhaps also for protection, but what it does is reduce the glossy, almost 3D like appearance that you see, especially with pictures, on the NX70V. The screen is still fine, brightness is very good, but it is still somewhat less stunning this time around.
6) We are faced here with probably the worst cradle design ever conceived. Like a wayward drunk, the side heavy connections make cradle go boom. And the location of the hot sync button on the right foot of the cradle is the height of inconvenience.
7) There is no way to charge or sync the device unless it is in its cradle, at least none that I could see. Gee whiz, that portable cradle that folds up, which Sony is so proud of, means there is just one more thing I need to take along with me if I want to charge or sync away from home.
8) And who came up with that sorry excuse for a flimsy plastic flap covering the cradle connection on the back of the device? Not only is it cheap, but it is awkward as hell, making proper setting of the device in the cradle to sync or charge more difficult than it already is.
9) The power button is perilously close to the lower right edge of the device and requires a fairly tough sliding motion to turn the unit on and off. I am waiting for the first person to complain that the NZ90 slipped out of his hands like a bar of soap.
10) Another usability fiasco is the stylus. It is too thin and light, as well as incredibly difficult to seat and remove in that thin slot to the side of the screen. If it takes me longer to remove or replace the stylus than it would to power on the device and start up an application, which it does, then this is a real problem. I cannot believe that Sony did any usability testing on this device.
11) A bonus beef: While it really isn’t as huge as some would have you believe, just hold the NZ90 and then switch to holding the NX70V. The size and weight differential is significant and should be considered by those for whom something more svelte is important.

Just my opinion, but nothing in the NZ90 is worth the upgrade for me after time spent with it - thank God for return policies.

[Shogmaster]

Originally posted by LarryB

5) There is a heavier antiglare coating on the screen, perhaps also for protection, but what it does is reduce the glossy, almost 3D like appearance that you see, especially with pictures, on the NX70V. The screen is still fine, brightness is very good, but it is still somewhat less stunning this time around.


I don't care what you do, or what the reasons are for what you are doing, but man.... you are on crack with that one above. :rolleyes:

[LarryB]

Originally posted by Shogmaster


I don't care what you do, or what the reasons are for what you are doing, but man.... you are on crack with that one above. :rolleyes:

I see, well at least you are providing a well reasoned, cogent response to my list.:rolleyes: Let me know when you run through the entire stash of narcotics that I must be on.

[Shogmaster]

Originally posted by LarryB


I see, well at least you are providing a well reasoned, cogent response to my list.:rolleyes: Let me know when you run through the entire stash of narcotics that I must be on.

I can't comment on the others, because I haven't had much time with the NZ, BUT, I did spend enough time with it to know that you are full of smelly caca with comment number 5. I beamed Acid Image into the NZ, and compared my JPEGs in my memory stick between my NX and the NZ. The NZ's screen is better in every possible way, no ifs ands or buts.

[LarryB]

Originally posted by Shogmaster


I can't comment on the others, because I haven't had much time with the NZ, BUT, I did spend enough time with it to know that you are full of smelly caca with comment number 5. I beamed Acid Image into the NZ, and compared my JPEGs in my memory stick between my NX and the NZ. The NZ's screen is better in every possible way, no ifs ands or buts.

Well, there you go - I was able to compare, side by side, the NX70V and NZ90 screens for picture viewing and noted that the 70V is markedly better, no ifs ands or buts.

Hey, but to each his own I guess.

[Shogmaster]

Hey, for all I know, all your other comments could be 100% dead on. Who knows? All I'm saying is, your comment no. 5 seemed really..... how should I say...... "wacky".

reduce the glossy, almost 3D like appearance that you see, especially with pictures, on the NX70V

Huh? Wha? Come again?

Seriously, share your stash! :p :D

[GEORGECLIE]

Hi Guys,

After I read all this comments about the NZ90, I got confused about get or not get thisone, because now i have the also lovely NX70V with a nice Piel Frama case, everything I use my Clie NX70V for, is going to be the same for the NZ90, but I was thinking to upgrade because of the screen, nice black color, smart battery, new memory stick PRO and the 2 MP. Camera, I love to take pictures of my 3 Kids,

But now I dont know what to do, you said that the stylus sucks, the unit is bigger, the plastic cradle, and the video feature is similar to the Nx70v, seems like, the only diference between these units is the camera, screen and battery, the rest i think i can do the same with my Nx and thisone has nice cradle, the camera swivels independent, is pocket portable, nice stylus same 200 Mhz. Xscale processor and with the update i'll be available to use the New Memory Stick PRO.

Can someone recommend me what to do, because i like both, and probably in short time is gonna be a better one, who knows maybe with 400 Mhz, smaller, and camera free to swivel.

Thanks.

[omgitsroy326]

i love the fact that if i need to copy someones' notes really quick cause i missed the class then all i have to do is make sure it's on the 2.0 meagapixel mode and take a picture.... saves so much time

[starstreak]

Originally posted by omgitsroy326
i love the fact that if i need to copy someones' notes really quick cause i missed the class then all i have to do is make sure it's on the 2.0 meagapixel mode and take a picture.... saves so much time

Haha. Good one.


GEORGECLIE-
Hmm this is my first palm unit. If you can wait about 6 months or so. I'm sure Sony will replace this unit. They always do that.

I'm wanting the memory card Pro, but like the promise for the "larger" memory stick and my SOny 707 camera, I'll see it to believe it. Btw, The Pro stick is incompatable with my 707. So when Sony said yeah no worries you can use the larger sticks when they come out was a lie.

[dmpsam]

I have 2nx70's , my kids, and an nz90, (mine) in my house, and have compared the screens on all of them.
The NX90 is definately brighter than the other 2.

The screen is so bright, that i turned the brightness all the way down when surfing the net in bed at night.

Maybe someone tweaked the screen all the way down before he did his comparison.

Crack kills.....pull up your pants!

[lisabeth]

I have one thing that's been on my mind (only one? one might say?). Anyway, the screen on the nx seemed to be very sensitive to a stylus' tap, whereas the screen on the nz seems to require much harder pressure. Is it me or is anyone else noticing this?

[SprSaiyan8]

i Give it a 9+ battery life is okay. i like yhe cradle a lot. i love the a/v connector when am in a meeting and i need to show pictures if what i am working on it enables me to hool my clie up to my teleandvision for viewing. i also like the new keyboard style. but i am not too crazy about where the memory stick goes. it was much nicer on top because,when i slide it into my cas'e the memory stick on the side seem to get in the way.now i have to take the memory stick out before putting it back in the case.and when i launch the camera mode it pauses before the application runs i guess it the 2 mega pix no biggie it still does the job i love my new nz90 just gotta get used to all the new design compared to my mx70