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andrewcoffin
02-20-2004, 01:56 PM
Now that some here have the TH55 in hand...can it be used with the older T-series cradles (such as the PEGA-UC50/R)?

I have read conflicting reports...some say definitively that it cannot, others have said that it can.

(I know it can be used with the new Clie cradle that doesn't have sides...I'm curious about the older cradles, since I own one already.)

michaelp
02-20-2004, 02:22 PM
This should help:

http://sonyelectronics.sonystyle.com/micros/clie/accessories/index.html

A list of the available accessories are listed for each current Clie'. Two cradles are listed. When viewing the cradle, you can see a list of Clie's that the cradle will work with. This should help you figure it out. Hope this helps!!

andrewcoffin
02-20-2004, 02:31 PM
Thanks. I've seen the accessory list. I realize that the older cradles are not listed there, but it looks like Sony has discontinued every cradle but the new version without sides and the cradle with built-in speakers...the older cradles aren't listed as compatible accessories under ANY Clie anymore, even the older models.

I've never seen the speaker cradle up close, but it looks like it has the same size "slot" as the other older models. Because it is listed as compatible with the TH55, it seems like other older cradles should also work. However, I've read a few posts (here or on other sites, I don't remember), saying that the TH55 would NOT fit in the older cradles.

So what I'm looking for is someone who has both a TH55 and an older cradle to settle the issue once and for all.

LanMan
02-20-2004, 03:08 PM
Yes, let's settle this question, and put it to sleep! I want to know if the TH55 will work in the the UC600 cradle, ala T415/T615/T665.

Icthus
02-20-2004, 03:37 PM
According to EdFrmBrighthand it will not fit in the TG50 cradle. I don't remember how different that one is from my old T665 cradle.

bcringo
02-20-2004, 05:23 PM
michaelp,

did you see the typo on the KB100 keyboard (299.99)?

bcringo
02-20-2004, 05:24 PM
What about the NR cradle. Can i use the power supply cable from it on a cradle for TH55? You know the cradle doesn't come with the AC power cord?

ClieClie
02-20-2004, 08:32 PM
th55 is anything like the nx80v size, then it'll fit in the t615, 665, and everything that these previous models would fit in, including most portable chargers. from my experience, i've used the same t615 cradle for my t665, nr70v, nx70v, tg50, nx73v, nx80v as well as sj30. they are basically the same size charging/ sync slot. if you're trying to fit all these models on to a nr70v type cradle, it might or might not work due to the bulkiness of the actual pda. but the charge/sync slot is basically the same size. tg50 might have a slightly tight fit to it but it still fits well enough to charge and sync.

jhruth
02-20-2004, 09:17 PM
http://fototime.com/2BCC5A6A2B23CD9/standard.jpg

threengs
02-20-2004, 09:21 PM
Thanks jhruth! The T665c cradle is the same as the T-415.
Cool! Now I have a cradle for home and work, since the pega uc-55 works with all the clies except the ux series!

mike p
02-20-2004, 09:35 PM
kb100 dont work on ux!

valleygifts
02-20-2004, 10:52 PM
According to SonyStyle, the TH will work in my NX-73 cradle. Now I can hardly wait until I can get one!

contempt
02-20-2004, 11:48 PM
Just got mine and tested it on my NX70 cradle. It fits and charges! The only thing is it doesn't rest fully flush with the back of the cradle, more so that it fits the charging mechanism and that's what holds it.

I also tested it on my girlfriend's T615 cradle and that fits even more perfect! It slides right in and charges like a charm.

Beavis
02-21-2004, 09:24 PM
I'm charging mine in my TG-50 Cradle. It looks like it was made for it.

Griff
02-22-2004, 02:08 PM
It does not appear to fit in my NR70v cradle.  I did a quick testfit last night and it didn't want to seat.  I'll do a better test later this evening or tomorrow once my replacement has been charged.

LanMan
02-23-2004, 10:00 AM
What are the model numbers of the T/NX series cradles that appear to be working. I have a UC600 that came with my T415, and would like to know if that cradle works or not. It's black, and should look really nice with the TH55! :)

excelir5
02-23-2004, 10:18 AM
Hold up Folks, don't order that NX Cradle yet.

I have the TH55 and I'm returning it.

I also have an NX80, same as the NX73, and the Cradle will work, but not very well.

The TH55 will sit in the Cradle, but it is precariuos and not at all stable. It's kind of a balancing act and an accident waiting to happen. The only part of the Cradle that supports the TH55 is the Plug that the Clie interfaces with at the base of the Cradle. So if you bump the TH or the Cradle you will loose your HotSync Connection and if you hit it hard enough you could cause physical damage to the Clie.

If you look at the Sony Style listing for Accesories, you will notice that there is no cradle available for the TH yet. If you damage your Clie using another Cradle and the Repair Shop figures this out you could jepordize your warrenty.

The safe bet , IMHO, would be to just wait for Sony to get it's stuff together and offer a proper Cradle for the TH55. Hope this helps.

LanMan
02-23-2004, 10:54 AM
excelir5, what is the model of your NX cradle?

Aces
02-23-2004, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by LanMan
What are the model numbers of the T/NX series cradles that appear to be working. I have a UC600 that came with my T415, and would like to know if that cradle works or not. It's black, and should look really nice with the TH55! :)

I just got my TH-55 today and am charging it with a PEGA-UC600 cradle which came with my wife's T615.  I'm using the PEGA-AC10 that came with my SJ-33, since it's identical to the one that came with the TH-55.  BUT... there is a plastic peg that's designed to fit into a hole in the back of the PDA, which does not fit. The reason is that the hole is 0.24" farther away from the connector on the TH-55 than on previous models, like my SJ-33.  It's the weight of the TH-55 and the curved pocket that keep it steady in the cradle. So the angle it makes with the cradle is off slightly.  IMHO this is not that big of a deal.  Some of you may want to break the peg off of the cradle to allow the TH-55 to sit flush.  But I don't think I will on mine.

T1000X
03-06-2004, 01:04 AM
For the old T series cradle I have, when I used to own both a NR70V and the NX70V, I just removed the peg on the back and it would fit perfectly. I did this to two cradles, and it works great. I don't have a TH55 yet, so I can't say it will work with it.

codabob
03-06-2004, 03:41 AM
I tried my TH on my NX cradle and while it would charge and sync okay, it didn't seem to stable while on the cradle. Having a shortage of outlets, I tried using the Mini Retractable charge/sync cable and it worked great. Plugged it into a USB port and it charges and hotsyncs without a problem. You can get one cheap at:
www.virology-online.com/RetractableSync.htm

w8tvi
03-06-2004, 01:23 PM
The TH55 WILL work in the UC50 cradle.

The hole on the baock of the TH55 doesn't match up with the plastic tab at the top center of the UC50, but if you have the UC50 already you can use it for the TH55.

It should be easy to remove the plastic tab from the UC50.

Noel

Peloquin
03-06-2004, 02:43 PM
I tried mine on the PEGA-UC50/60 cradle and while I could hold it in place, it would pop back up and unseat itself every time, so while I could acutally sync it, I had to hold it in place to do so, same with charging.

cnycompguy
03-06-2004, 03:42 PM
after playing with my TH55 and the cradle from the NX70v for a few min i can see that it may fit rather well if i removed the clear plastic part that says clie, as the TH55 is slightly deeper than the NX, i'll remove it and post the results

BikerTech
03-21-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by ClieClie
th55 is anything like the nx80v size, then it'll fit in the t615, 665, and everything that these previous models would fit in, including most portable chargers. from my experience, i've used the same t615 cradle for my t665, nr70v, nx70v, tg50, nx73v, nx80v as well as sj30. they are basically the same size charging/ sync slot. if you're trying to fit all these models on to a nr70v type cradle, it might or might not work due to the bulkiness of the actual pda. but the charge/sync slot is basically the same size. tg50 might have a slightly tight fit to it but it still fits well enough to charge and sync.

I seconds this post. It works w/ my T615C cradle and also w/ my USB/Charger purchased from Brando for my beloved T615C as well.

olderTechnology
03-21-2004, 04:23 PM
I had to Dremel the sldes of myT615 cradle as well as the "pin." It just fit too snugly otherwise.

clownfish
03-21-2004, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by cnycompguy
after playing with my TH55 and the cradle from the NX70v for a few min i can see that it may fit rather well if i removed the clear plastic part that says clie, as the TH55 is slightly deeper than the NX, i'll remove it and post the results

I did just that, and while it fits significantly better it's not perfect. . .Still it's good enough for me.

valleygifts
03-22-2004, 06:00 PM
I broke out the Dremel on my NX-73 cradle, after using their connector with no cradle for a week. Now it fits pretty good, after I removed that stupid raised pin in the back.

Chou Chou
03-22-2004, 06:37 PM
I have just got the TH55 and it fits into my old T615C cradle beautifully - it charges but doesn't sync. Anybody know why?

valodya
03-23-2004, 12:37 PM
I've had mixed, and rather odd results with my NR70 cradles, one at home and one at work. The butt end of the TH55 is thicker than the NR70, so it doesn't sit comfortably in the cradle. When you seat it snugly onto the connector, the TH55 is angled away from the back of the cradle. If you tap the front, the Clie bounces backward and forwards, so it feels rather precarious, and I suppose could damage the connector in the long term, since you flex it back and forth. I haven't tried to remove the clear plastic part yet, but the fat part is wider than that, so I don't think it would help.

On both cradles, the TH55 seats well enough to charge. The odd part is, I can Hotsync with no problem at home, but I can't get it to sync at work (I can sync if I use the cable that came with the TH55). However, Data Import works at work, but not at home. I've had trouble installing Data Export before, so the fact that it doesn't work at home may not be related to the cradle, but it's still odd that I can connect via Data Export, but I can't sync. I get no response at all if I hit the button on the cradle, or via the HotSync app on the Clie.

So the answer for me is that it works kinda sorta, but not too well. If anyone has had better luck with an NR70 cradle, please report.

cnycompguy
03-23-2004, 02:01 PM
what models are the cradles themselves, this should be printed on the underside of the unit.