Mapsonic / UX50 users please read this

[itm]

I'd like to find out many people have had problems using Mapsonic with the UX50 and a bluetooth GPS. I shall then provide this feedback to Viamichelin, who are currently insisting that this is a problem with the GPS hardware - despite the fact that I get no problems using Mapopolis with the same GPS.

I'd be really grateful if any Mapsonic / UX50 users could answer the following questions:

A. Have you had a problem with Mapsonic losing the bluetooth connection with your GPS receiver when in navigation mode?

B. Which GPS receiver are you using?

C. Have you tried any other navigation software on the UX50 with the same GPS receiever (e.g. Mapopolis)? If so, do you get the same problem?

D. Have you tried your GPS receiver with any other bluetooth hardware - e.g. a laptop? If so, do you get the same problem?


TIA for your co-operation with this.

[RikF]

A) Yes, sometimes about once a minute
B) EMTAC bluetooth gps unit
C) Works absolutely fine with mapopolis and other simple gps applications
D) Works fine with my laptop and also with my phone (P800)

Forgot friends pocket pc - he can use my gps perfectly well as well

Happy to help

RikF

[jaffab]

A. Yes - once every 15 - 20 minutes
B. Fortuna
C. TomTom - no problems
D. With laptop PC and a friends pocket PC - no problems on either

[Kamidh]

A. Yes - once every 5 - 10 minutes
B. Emtac
C. Mapopolis - no problems
D. With Apple PowerBook 17" and Route 66 - no problems

[c0mm0n]

I've contacted a heavy mapsonic user and he confirmed me that he losses connection every 5 mins with emtac gps receiver ; he hasn't tested with any other. So i'll answer for him as his english is very bas.

A Losses connection every 5 minutes
B Emtac GPS
C Works ok with mapopolis
D Ok with laptop

I would add a "E" for your region and "ux model"

E Euro clié with euro gps receiver.

I'm waiting for the mapsonic 1.3 pdf today, and should have also news about new release date very soon.

[dma]

A: yes every 5 seconds
B:GPS haicom 303 CF with bluetooth socket
C: No
D .No

[spidey]

Bump with interest

[pedro78]

A. Have you had a problem with Mapsonic losing the bluetooth connection with your GPS receiver when in navigation mode?

Yes, but an interresting thing is that you can reproduce it even
in simulation mode !! after having connected your GPS, and even
if the GPS doesn't "see" any satellite, to problem will occur and
the connection to the GPS will be lost as well !!

B. Which GPS receiver are you using?

TomTom

C. Have you tried any other navigation software on the UX50 with the same GPS receiever (e.g. Mapopolis)? If so, do you get the same problem?

Yes Mapopolis: NO PROBLEM !!

D. Have you tried your GPS receiver with any other bluetooth hardware - e.g. a laptop? If so, do you get the same problem?

Yes: No Problem, btw I was using this GPS under ipaq1940 + TomTom Navigator V2 without any problem.

Cheers

[webdoc]

A. Have you had a problem with Mapsonic losing the bluetooth connection with your GPS receiver when in navigation mode?


Yes frequently . I use a TH 55 .

B. Which GPS receiver are you using?

Socket / emtac


C. Have you tried any other navigation software on the UX50 with the same GPS receiever (e.g. Mapopolis)? If so, do you get the same problem?

No



D. Have you tried your GPS receiver with any other bluetooth hardware - e.g. a laptop? If so, do you get the same problem?

No

[CyberDan]

There's an (unreleased) update to Mapsonic 1.31. Has anybody tried it yet? I can't tell what they changed, but it will be released soon.

You can get it here: http://www.heinent.de/DOWNLOAD/MapSonic.zip

Could someone test it and tell me about the BT-Connection on the UX?

[Unregistered]

Hello,

A. Looses regularly the connection (< 2 min)
B. GPS haicom 303 CF with bluetooth socket
C. Mapopolis. Did not intensively test it yet, but connection seems to be quite stable.
D. A friend of mine tried Mapsonic + my GPS receiver with a Tungsten without problem

Cheers,
Stefan

[Unregistered]

Hello CyberDan,

I tried out the unreleased version 1.31 under "laboratory conditions", and in conclusion I hope there will be soon a release 1.32...

What did I do?
I set up a test route in Mapsonic (10 km) and connected the GPS receiver at a distance of 20 cm's to my UX. Both units are plugged to the power supply, so battery problems can be excluded. Then I let the UX run through my route in the demo mode. My expectation is that the Clié should be able to run through the demo mode without loosing the BT connection, else it is not necessary that I go downstaires and try the same thing with the unplugged material in a moving vehicle with real GPS positioning.

At least in 3D mode I can already say that there didn't change anything. Regular losses of the BT connection (less than 2 minutes runtime in my case). In 2D mode the connection appears to be more stable, I got 2 losses on the 10 km's. Let's see tomorrow morning, what it looks like under real conditions.

Anyway thanks for the link to the file, for a moment I could dream of getting solved the problem...

Cheers, Stefan

P.S.: Mapsonic - as nice as it looks in comparision to some competitors products - is unfortunately in the actual state not safely usable for UX50 users. I would not advice to Michelin to sell this product in the US, else it would not last very long until a driver, regularly in need to re-connect his device, bumps into another car and will suit them for some hundred million $$$ - money they would probably need for the product improvement.... ;-)

[kbeaubs]

Is anyone using a GPS the old traditional way? With a WIRE attached? :)

[peterb123]

What is this "WIRE" you speak of?

[Unregistered]

I am using Mapsonic with a NX70v and have found it pretty good to use in terms of the software functioning correctly. It could do with a change in some of the fonts. Some being too small.

[mck3nzi3]

A: yes I have the bluetooth problem! :(
B: Fortuna GPS Bluetooth
C: No
D: Yes, alla working perfect

Will TomTom run on my Cliè UX50 ?? Wich version...I will try with this!

[moom]

Believe it or not, the mapsonic problem on the UX50 is not solved ! How did they do this ? Very simple... On the product page, they simply removed the UX50/UX40 from the supported device list.
As they don't officially support it anymore, there is no need for them to make a patch.

Software business is a bad business... :(

[Amstel]

they simply removed the UX50/UX40 from the supported device list.
As they don't officially support it anymore, there is no need for them to make a patch.

Software business is a bad business... :(
Well, now the UX is getting out of western markets we should forget expecting a patch for this
:confused:

[moom]

True. And has TomTom has also no plan to support the UX, I wonder if I will keep my UX for much longer... Sad, because apart from the too little battery and this MapSonic issue, the UX was the greatest PDA I have ever had. I guess I'll now start to monitor both PalmOne for an upcoming T4 and, very unfortunately, PocketPCs for systems that can go landscape...

[itm]

Well I've finally had enough. Having ignored my last 2 emails completely (going back a couple of months), Viamichelin have now ignored my request for an RMA number/refund. Next step is to seek compensation through the credit card company.

Anybody out there who's thinking of buying from Viamichelin would be wise to take note.

[SimL8r]

Well I've finally had enough. Having ignored my last 2 emails completely (going back a couple of months), Viamichelin have now ignored my request for an RMA number/refund. Next step is to seek compensation through the credit card company.

Anybody out there who's thinking of buying from Viamichelin would be wise to take note.
Absolutely see if you credit card company with settle the score, they have ways...... they have ways

[itm]

If a retailer defaults on their legal obligations to the customer then the credit card company becomes liable for those obligations. I tried this before, with an electrical retailer who went bust after my appliance broke down. They paid up without any questions.
If the retailer is still in business then the c/c company will generally apply the necessary pressure to resolve the problem, of course. Either way, the consumer is protected.

[glassman]

I recently downloaded Mapopolis v2.3 and a few trial maps. I noticed there was some issues with earlier versions. Has the "dropped connection" issue been fixed in version 2.3?

With v2.3, when I try to enter data into the address field in Navigate or Find, there is a noticeable lag between a key entry and the character showing in the field (maybe 2 s.).

As a test, I loaded Mapopolis on my backup UX50, after a hard reset . I do not see any lag at all. I know there is probably a software conflict, but I can't locate the cause. I have diabled all hacks and launchers with no change. I've tried deleting a few apps, clearing more RAM, loading only one map, etc, with no improvement to the lag issue. I'll probably have to reload apps one at a time to figure it out. Anyone else know of any apps that might cause this sympton?

[Amstel]

I recently downloaded Mapopolis v2.3 and a few trial maps. I noticed there was some issues with earlier versions. Has the "dropped connection" issue been fixed in version 2.3?

I believe this issue has remained definitely unsolved.. but I haven't checked it.

It's really a pity because Mapsonic IMHO is the best navigation app by far

[peterb123]

I believe this issue has remained definitely unsolved.. but I haven't checked it.

It's really a pity because Mapsonic IMHO is the best navigation app by far

I believe ya'll may be talking about different applications.

BTW, my Mapopolis doesn't experience any kind of input lag when doing searches and finds.

[glassman]

...BTW, my Mapopolis doesn't experience any kind of input lag when doing searches and finds.

Maybe available RAM is the cause of the lag. I have 9.3MB of available RAM. How much available RAM do you have?

[Amstel]

I believe ya'll may be talking about different applications.

BTW, my Mapopolis doesn't experience any kind of input lag when doing searches and finds.You're right, sorry
I can't take Mapsonic out of my head
:eek:

[peterb123]

Maybe available RAM is the cause of the lag. I have 9.3MB of available RAM. How much available RAM do you have?

5.5MB available RAM. I use the Harris County map (Houston TX) which is 8.094MB in size.

I just did a search for my home address. It took the map itself about 3 seconds to load. When I typed in the address under find, there was no input lag at all. It took about 4 seconds to list the address matches. When I selected my address and told it to bring up that address in the map, it took about 2 seconds.

I personally find these short waits acceptable.

I just wish you could get maps without POI's for Mapopolis.

[glassman]

5.5MB available RAM. I use the Harris County map (Houston TX) which is 8.094MB in size.

I just did a search for my home address. It took the map itself about 3 seconds to load. When I typed in the address under find, there was no input lag at all. It took about 4 seconds to list the address matches. When I selected my address and told it to bring up that address in the map, it took about 2 seconds.

I personally find these short waits acceptable.

I just wish you could get maps without POI's for Mapopolis.

Hmm, the lag definitely seems like a software conflict then.

Thanks for the info.