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teyang
02-14-2004, 02:22 PM
According to the information from Taiwan clie user group, TH55 can use NX80V's movie recorder software to record movie.:D

jumpyg
02-14-2004, 02:45 PM
Can you give a link?

Thanks!

rened
02-14-2004, 03:29 PM
Please!

orol
02-14-2004, 04:05 PM
great news ;-)

skccs
02-14-2004, 04:18 PM
If you read the clie-organiser review of the th55 at pdafrance.com or at clieandco you would have read too, that the reviewers complained at sony because of the missing movie-recorder. Sony representatives answered them (according to the review) that they had a shedule to bring out the th55 (i can believe that because the t3 is out for a while) and that they wanted to update the software because of the new hardware. Maybe they bring out the movie-recorder as an software update (like palm inc. delivered the audio player after they sold the tungsten t(1).

jumpyg
02-14-2004, 04:23 PM
This appears to be the Taiwain user group discussion of this topic. Can't get a decent translation, though.

http://clie.info/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=25168&whichpage=1&SearchTerms=th55,NX80V

teyang
02-14-2004, 04:44 PM
Yes, this link. Because Japanese vision came out on Feb 14, so many buyer in Taiwan got their TH55 at the night of 14. They used NX80V's movie recorder software installed in TH55 and found it worked fine on this machine.

neogin
02-14-2004, 04:48 PM
i'm waiting to use clie organizer on my nx80 :D

teyang
02-14-2004, 04:57 PM
Maybe you will be disappointed, because Th55's organizer seems can't be rip, it combines with the launcher. If you can rip the whole launcher, maybe it can work on your machine

neogin
02-14-2004, 05:26 PM
i believe they can .. give them time about 2-3 months :D

orol
02-14-2004, 05:32 PM
imho with filez everything can be ripped :-)

the problem would be size .. I guess 3-4MB for the whole thing .. which would be an overkill for me. I'll stick with DateBk5

Dropzone
02-15-2004, 01:18 AM
i would not mind for 3-4 MB, the clie organizer is too good already. :)

rened
02-15-2004, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by teyang
Yes, this link. Because Japanese vision came out on Feb 14, so many buyer in Taiwan got their TH55 at the night of 14. They used NX80V's movie recorder software installed in TH55 and found it worked fine on this machine.

Great! What files need to be installed?

contempt
02-15-2004, 10:40 AM
It sounds like an idiotic move on Sony's part not to mention video recording if it's just a software issue. Why not include the movie capture app that all of currently use? Even if they are developing a newer version. At least they would add to their marketing. But it's good to know I won't have to sacrifice anything from my NX (except the minikeyboard which I never use). This is great news.

teyang
02-15-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by neogin
i'm waiting to use clie organizer on my nx80 :D

There is a test in Taiwan, they riped the whole launcher from TH55 and replaced UX50 and Zodiac's launcher, the conclusion is fail...
FYI:
http://forum.palmislife.com/viewthread.php?tid=25789&fpage=1

trayip
02-15-2004, 05:26 PM
So can anyone confirm if you can record movies on the Th55!?!?!??! This will make/break my decisin...

joejoe
02-15-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by trayip
So can anyone confirm if you can record movies on the Th55!?!?!??! This will make/break my decisin...

The rather comprehensive review on the pdafrance site said it will *not* record movies (it can play them, however), indeed this was one of the things that disappointed the reviewer. According to their article, this software was not ready in time for the release of the PDA.

Further, it is not mentioned as a feature on the Sonystyle site nor have I seen it in any of the videos about the TH55 on their site or elsewhere.

Personally, I hope that it will be released a little bit later & available to TH55 users but I wouldn't bet on it -- Sony's not too generous in the update department.

trayip
02-15-2004, 06:32 PM
but did someone in Taiwan transfer the NX80 (or the NX73 would have been better, or the UX one) movie rec to the TH and see if it'll work....just cuz sony says it doesn't work, they still seem to allow the hardware to work; only need the software. And usually it appears that the software on one pda will work on another.....the TH55 can be a killer pda with movie rec (that's what i use my camera on the nx80 a lot for -- candid photos and movies of friends and teachers)....so i'd hate to lose that ability..

Tray

enderenya
02-16-2004, 05:04 AM
I guess we'll soon find out for sure. Hopefully someone can donate the movie recorder software from the UX to a new TH owner to confirm/deny this.

clie_wannabe
02-16-2004, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by neogin
i'm waiting to use clie organizer on my nx80 :D


hhhhmmm... nice idea...

the GF of my friend (who also has a NX80V) already bought the TH55 (her first handheld)...

maybe i could play around with the updated versions of NetFront (which is now build 2.x.y), and of course, the CLIE Organizer, maybe?

:D

clie_wannabe
02-16-2004, 06:14 AM
but i believe that it is quite stupid of sony to leave out the video recording function after having it in the NX and UX series...

what is their product development team made of?

ccampbell1
02-16-2004, 06:25 AM
I copied the MovieRecorder application (1 file only) from Japanese UX-50 to Japanese TH-55.
It works perfectly!!
Only limitation is that you cant use the "still" button on the Camera app to switch to the MovieRecorder, but you CAN click the "movie" button on Movierecorder to switch to the camera app.
Also, while in the MovieRecorder app, opening and closing the camera lens simly makes the camera image appear or disappear (no message like the camera app telling you the lens is closed).
Finally, it might be my imagination, but I think the quality of the videos is a little bit poorer than the UX-50.
All these are such tiny tiny insignificant limitations.
It obviously works fine, so I cant figure out why Sony left it off...
I can see that its not quite as nice or refined as the camera app, but even if its just that, youd think they would mention on web site or something that MovieRecorder will be available as an update later or something. They will definitely put off at least a few customers by making it look like it plain wont have this functionality.
Incidentally, I picked my TH-55 up on 2/14 morning from Yodobashi Camera in Osaka, and those things were selling like hotcakes. I saw about 5 or 6 other people buying them while I was paying for mine, and there was constantly a couple of people waiting to play with the demo unit.

Eddy
02-16-2004, 06:57 AM
Wow, that's very good new indeed that MovieRecorder applications is actually working on the TH55! With the little limitations, IMHO, it's acceptable. ;)

trayip
02-16-2004, 08:01 AM
WHOAH!!! SWEEEEEEEET. I may just have to go to BB, and get them to return my NX80, so i can buy a TH55 from somewhere else.......Maybe i should just keep my nx80 (and the psp) and wait for OS6 to come out...but i could also get the TH55 from Ecost for 330 :)

Decisions, Decisions,

Tray

Unregistered
02-16-2004, 09:18 AM
It can't , SURE

jja
02-16-2004, 09:52 AM
It surely can (by using movie recorder software from UX50).
Here is the link from Taiwan (it's in Chinese of course)
http://forum.palmislife.com/viewthread.php?tid=25789&page=1&fpage=1

If you look at the page carefully, you will find a video file, Mov00005.mov , which is captured just by TH55.

BTW, Graffiti 1 also works (by using some files ripped from some other device)

jumpyg
02-16-2004, 10:37 AM
Wow, that video looks pretty good.

Here's the direct link:
http://forum.palmislife.com/attachment.php?aid=6509&sid=yEFKa0

abosco
02-16-2004, 11:22 AM
There is a test in Taiwan, they riped the whole launcher from TH55 and replaced UX50 and Zodiac's launcher, the conclusion is fail..

Of course it won't work - they're on different API's. Rip the launcher from the TH55 and install it on an NX80v. Same API, same screen orientation and size. There will be success, and if nobody does it, I'll buy one myself and do it.

TotalDeejay
02-16-2004, 11:35 AM
The only thing that I would now miss from my NX70 is the Compact Flash slot... If Sony engineers had at least included 2 ms slots (like the two SD slots in the Zodiac), I could have been tempted to exchange my 512 Mb CF cards for MS Pro equivalents. But...
I guess I'll wait for an OS 6... (Sorry, I meant Cobalt) Clié before ditching my trusty NX70.

enderenya
02-16-2004, 12:50 PM
Great news on both the Movie Recorder and the Graffiti 1 files!

I assumed the Graffiti1 switch would work, and I plan on switching it over when I get it.

Can anyone post a link to download Movie Recorder ripped from the UX?

winexprt
02-16-2004, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by enderenya
Great news on both the Movie Recorder and the Graffiti 1 files!

I assumed the Graffiti1 switch would work, and I plan on switching it over when I get it.

Can anyone post a link to download Movie Recorder ripped from the UX?

Right here buddy:

<link to copyrighted software deleted>

depret
02-16-2004, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by jumpyg
Wow, that video looks pretty good.

Here's the direct link:
http://forum.palmislife.com/attachment.php?aid=6509&sid=yEFKa0

Great news and nice movie. Ranger, thanks.

winexprt
02-16-2004, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by depret


Great news and nice movie. Ranger, thanks.

Carry on soldier! LOL

winexprt
02-16-2004, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by clie_wannabe



hhhhmmm... nice idea...

the GF of my friend (who also has a NX80V) already bought the TH55 (her first handheld)...

maybe i could play around with the updated versions of NetFront (which is now build 2.x.y), and of course, the CLIE Organizer, maybe?

:D

The latest version of NetFront, which the TH55 ships with is currently v3.1

coolride
02-16-2004, 02:16 PM
I didn't think it would take too long before they did this. I would like to see the TH55 Clie Organizer work on an NX80...that would be interesting.

winexprt
02-16-2004, 02:32 PM
Ranger tab has returned Paul!

enderenya
02-16-2004, 02:49 PM
Thanks buddy. 'preciate-cha

contempt
02-16-2004, 03:28 PM
Is it only the UX version of movie recorder that will work on the TH, or can I rip my NX version?

jhintonh
02-16-2004, 04:50 PM
Good Evening-

Sorry to step off topic momentarily but I just noticed your avatar, enderenya. "Ender's Game" is one of my top ten reads of all time (and I have read quite a few). Fantastic!

Carry on...

-Jhintonh

P.S. The reason I started reading this thread is that being able to use Graffitti I has solidified my decision to buy the TH55. There now, that makes this post "on-topic".

winexprt
02-16-2004, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by jhintonh
Good Evening-

Sorry to step off topic momentarily but I just noticed your avatar, enderenya. "Ender's Game" is one of my top ten reads of all time (and I have read quite a few). Fantastic!

Carry on...

-Jhintonh

P.S. The reason I started reading this thread is that being able to use Graffitti I has solidified my decision to buy the TH55. There now, that makes this post "on-topic".

HEY!! You're copyin' MY 'Carry On"! LOL

Carry-On.

Dropzone
02-16-2004, 05:57 PM
Zodiac maybe fail due to the fact it is not a sony product, while the UX50 being landscape mode, might not be able to support the TH55 potrait CLIE organizer. There might still be a chance. :)

enderenya
02-16-2004, 08:05 PM
Ho Ranger...
I know this is a futile argument, but don't you think that since both are made by Sony, and it should have been on there in the first place... that the whole "copyright infringement" thing on the Movie Recorder software is LAME? I mean... seriously... give me a break. Like anyone ISN'T going to want it on their new TH.

Originally posted by jhintonh
Sorry to step off topic momentarily but I just noticed your avatar, enderenya. "Ender's Game" is one of my top ten reads of all time (and I have read quite a few). Fantastic!

Thanks jhintonh! It's my favorite novel, not that you couldn't tell. The rest of the series pales in comparison, but isn't bad either.

winexprt
02-16-2004, 08:19 PM
Oh wow! I just caught that. My link has been deleted! Don't know what to think about that since I own a legal copy of that software..Hmmm.

gollum
02-16-2004, 09:16 PM
Whew, got 'em just before the deleted link

sheena
02-16-2004, 09:20 PM
I downloaded it too, but what is the name of the file that needs to be installed on the th to record movies?

winexprt
02-16-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by enderenya
Ho Ranger...
I know this is a futile argument, but don't you think that since both are made by Sony, and it should have been on there in the first place... that the whole "copyright infringement" thing on the Movie Recorder software is LAME? I mean... seriously... give me a break. Like anyone ISN'T going to want it on their new TH.



Thanks jhintonh! It's my favorite novel, not that you couldn't tell. The rest of the series pales in comparison, but isn't bad either.

BTW..you may or may not know that it wasn't me who deleted that link. I'm sure you know but just want to clarify for the record.

jumpyg
02-16-2004, 09:57 PM
The page containing that is still linked in this thread.

winexprt
02-16-2004, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by winexprt


Right here buddy:

<link to copyrighted software deleted>

Not mine! As you can see...not here anymore.

fogg
02-17-2004, 03:34 AM
i wrote a very personal pm to you ;)

rened
02-17-2004, 05:23 AM
Any chance the UX version of netfront provides landscape browsing to the TH?

Unregistered
02-17-2004, 09:33 AM
Nope...

The UX versios is build # 1.1.54 and runs in portrait on my NX.

Cheers, Rich
(LeggNet, posting via NetFront - not logged in)

jhintonh
02-17-2004, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by winexprt


HEY!! You're copyin' MY 'Carry On"! LOL

Carry-On.

Good Evening-

Sorry.&nbsp; Grew up in a "Service Family", if you know what I mean.&nbsp; Didn't mean to pinch your line.

-Jhintonh (the "J" stands for Jeep Driver...)

jhintonh
02-17-2004, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by enderenya
Thanks jhintonh! It's my favorite novel, not that you couldn't tell. The rest of the series pales in comparison, but isn't bad either.

Good Evening-

Agreed.&nbsp; Unfortunate direction that Mr. Card took with Ender's character.&nbsp; I spent the entire novel (Ender's Game) rooting for little Ender and then Mr. Card decides to make me feel bad that he was successful?!?!&nbsp; Strange.

-Jhintonh

winexprt
02-17-2004, 05:05 PM
Originally posted by jhintonh


Good Evening-

Sorry.&nbsp; Grew up in a "Service Family", if you know what I mean.&nbsp; Didn't mean to pinch your line.

-Jhintonh (the "J" stands for Jeep Driver...)

Was TOTALLY kidding with that one.

jhintonh
02-18-2004, 05:06 PM
Good Evening-

Roger that, winexprt. Carry...er...as you were. ;)

-Jhintonh

CliePet
02-19-2004, 05:00 PM
Just got my TH55, and as suspected all the important camera system support is there.
You just need a MovieRecorder application to make your own movies. Use FileZ to copy MovieRecorder from another PDA (semi-piracy). There are some compatibility problems (see below).

Other camera apps, like BouncyCam, MyMovie (my simple movie recorder) and SpyStillCam all work on the new device, so it appears to be very similar to the older models with the lower res camera (NX7x/UX)

Some differences noticed so far: UX feature of 256kbps movie recording not supported (only 96 and 192kbps video), only two effects options (B&W and Sepia) instead of the usual four. Most everything else appears to be the same.

winexprt
02-19-2004, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by CliePet
Just got my TH55, and as suspected all the important camera system support is there.
You just need a MovieRecorder application to make your own movies. Use FileZ to copy MovieRecorder from another PDA (semi-piracy). There are some compatibility problems (see below).

Other camera apps, like BouncyCam, MyMovie (my simple movie recorder) and SpyStillCam all work on the new device, so it appears to be very similar to the older models with the lower res camera (NX7x/UX)

Some differences noticed so far: UX feature of 256kbps movie recording not supported (only 96 and 192kbps video), only two effects options (B&W and Sepia) instead of the usual four. Most everything else appears to be the same.

Glad to hear that it will be relatively painless for all you TH55 owners to add movie recording capability. Seems from your description like a easy fix.

BTW..if you OWN the other PDA (like I did when I got Graffiti 1 off my old PalmVx) it's not piracy.

IE: You can't steal from yourself. ;)

enderenya
02-19-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by winexprt

BTW..if you OWN the other PDA (like I did when I got Graffiti 1 off my old PalmVx) it's not piracy.

Plus they could have easily put it on there anyway, but I think that they didn't because it didn't&nbsp;have full compatibility&nbsp;like the UX... and bagged it.

That way they don't have to support it.&nbsp; I REALLY doubt Sony would have a problem with anyone using it on the TH55. I mean, the worst thing that can happen is a hard-reset.

&nbsp;

CliePet
02-20-2004, 12:37 PM
re: not including Movie Recorder
My guess it was a marketing decision (focus of the TH55 mid-to-high-end player, but not everything you find in the UX50 highest end)
They have tweeked the camera apps for all the previous models in the NX/NZ/UX family, including the Still Camera app on the TH, so I don't think minor technical issues would stop it.

======
> BTW..if you OWN the other PDA (like I did when I got Graffiti 1 off my old PalmVx) it's not piracy.
> IE: You can't steal from yourself.

Well, officially you don't own any of the software on your PDA. If you are a stickler read the page 3 of your manual.

The software is licensed to run it on one computer and you agree not to transfer it. BTW: For PC's it sometimes allows one copy to be used by one computer at a time, for PDAs it is just the one computer that it came with.
BTW2: The Movie Recorder app is locked so it can't be beamed to another PDA (but it is trivial to copy using something like FileZ).

This is not meant to start a debate. If you are a stickler for following the exact terms of your license agreement with no deviation, then do not copy the software, if even you own both computers.

In practice it doesn't stop most people, and is a very common activity that has tacit approval by Sony (just don't ask for support). However, some people will call it "illegal" if the circumstances are right.

c0mm0n
02-20-2004, 12:40 PM
Sorry for this post :o

ANybody needs movie rec and wanna trade with nf 3.1 mail me c0mm0n@fr.st



i'm out :D

jumpyg
02-20-2004, 12:44 PM
CliePet--you may be technically correct, but I think this type of activity is quite harmless.

I think it is less harmful to Sony than loaning a Sony music CD or DVD to a friend, and who hasn't done that? I don't believe anyone has ever been prosecuted for loaning out a DVD, yet it is illegal.

Icthus
02-20-2004, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by jumpyg
...loaning a Sony music CD or DVD to a friend, and who hasn't done that? I don't believe anyone has ever been prosecuted for loaning out a DVD, yet it is illegal.

How is that illegal? Copying yes, but borrowing?

jumpyg
02-20-2004, 01:17 PM
I don't know, it's kind of a gray area. I found this in an article in PC World:
My neighbor, who's never missed an episode of "Survivor," came down with food poisoning the other night and is begging me to lend him the copy of the latest episode I made with my DVD burner. Can I oblige without jeopardizing my future appointment to the Supreme Court? Probably, though if you really want to be cautious, you should invite him over to watch it in the comfort of your living room. Just as in the case of music files, the law prohibits you from giving friends copies of any form of copyrighted material--including over-the-air broadcasts. But most of the attorneys I spoke with agree that this type of situation would probably be considered legal.
My point is that even if it is illegal, nobody is going to be prosecuted for it.

Icthus
02-20-2004, 02:44 PM
Ok. I think the potential problem with that situation is that it was a copy he made on his DVD player. It was the copy that may be an issue, not the lending of the item. Not that I know anyone *cough cough* that would burn DVDs. Anyone ever use Netflix? - good service.
Agreed, Sony won't be knocking on your door. Speaking fo all this, anyone want to send me a copy of the movierecorder app? Really. I would be more than willing to try it out for you and see if it will work on my forthcoming TH55.


James

winexprt
02-20-2004, 02:52 PM
Hey Icthus...what does "IYYAYAS" mean?

Again, different story if you "Copy" a DVD and then lend THAT out as opposed to lending out the one you bought in the store. It's the copying (burning) then 'lending' out the reproductions that has the entertainment (rightfully so) all in a tizzy.

BTW Icthus...I provided a lot of opportunities for my enemies to die for their country! ;)

Icthus
02-20-2004, 03:00 PM
If You Ain't Ammo You Ain't ....ah.....um......Special, ya, that's it, special

LanMan
02-20-2004, 03:04 PM
One too many "Y"'s, and one too few "A"'s.

winexprt
02-20-2004, 03:10 PM
What the hey is 'AMMO'...some game??

Icthus
02-20-2004, 03:11 PM
Thanx. I feel stupid. It is not uncommon for me to do something like that. Fat fingers I guess.

winexprt
02-20-2004, 03:16 PM
Still in the dark as to what "AMMO' is......I know it used to go into my M4..and my SAW. ;)

Icthus
02-20-2004, 03:46 PM
AMMO is short for ammunition, or munitions. (It still goes in both of my pistols, both of my rifles, my shotgun, and my muzzleloader).
While I was in the Air Force I worked Ammo. Basically we palyed with anyting that blows up. I spent my whole time in Okinawa supporting F-15s. I started out working with 20MM and chaff and flare, then worked for a while driving all of the chaff/flare/bullets/missiles etc back and forth between the jets and teh bomb dump (the munitions storage area). After that I worked with missiles for a little over a year, and from there I went to work on all of the equipment and trailors used to support our squadron.
Currently I'm in ROTC, so in about a year I should be back in with a butter bar on my shoulder. I'll most likely be going into communications.

winexprt
02-20-2004, 04:08 PM
The only thing I know about the Air Force (or 'Chair Force' as us Army guys used to call you guys) ;) is the fine aircraft you provided for me and my Ranger buddies to jump out of: C-130 Hercs, C-17 Globe-masters, C-141's etc.

Oh..and we used to say "If You Ain't AIRBORNE, You Ain't SHEEET". LOL

OFF WE GO INTO THE WILD BLUE YONDER FLYING HIGH....

mykelfurman
02-20-2004, 05:13 PM
OK, so where do I get my hands on the UX50 movie recorder so i can put it on my TH55 when it arives?

KPZerone
02-21-2004, 01:14 PM
Bump. I can't find the recorder anywhere...

Unregistered
02-21-2004, 01:41 PM
Follow this link and go to the 4th message down the BBS!

<download link to copyrighted software deleted>

I'm not sure what version of the movie recorder it is though! cuz i'm still waitin for my TH55 to arrive. (T_T) Anyway, let me know if u got it to work on urs!

Good luck~!

Dan

enderenya
02-21-2004, 07:53 PM
Thanks, I just checked with Sony OS5 Simulator (portrait mode), and it is Movie Recorder v1.3

&nbsp;

I guess I barely got that link before it was deleted by the mods.&nbsp; I guess they are required to do that, but I think they understand the desire to put it on the TH55. In fact, I would be surprised if they don't put it on their own, if or when they get one.

big_raji
02-21-2004, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
Follow this link and go to the 4th message down the BBS!

http://www.linkdeleted.com

I'm not sure what version of the movie recorder it is though! cuz i'm still waitin for my TH55 to arrive. (T_T) Anyway, let me know if u got it to work on urs!

Good luck~!

Dan

If the Mods don't want UX users requesting TH PIM software, the Mods should be deleting this post giving a link to NX/UX Movie Recorder for use on the TH.

Chrislikektm
02-22-2004, 01:20 AM
Wait so when I get a TH-55 I will be able to record video HoW?
Oh yea I currently own a nx-70

Chrislikektm
02-22-2004, 01:24 AM
What my Question really is, Will I be able to record 160 by 160 resolution movie from the actuall camera on the Th-55? If not then how?

Eddy
02-22-2004, 09:02 AM
Well, as far as I know, TH55 can't record movies right out of the box itself. But you can copy individual files necessary for MovieRecording, (from previous lineups of CLIEs that has the recording function of course). ;)
But I haven't experiment with this so I'm not sure which are the specific files that are necessary.

c0mm0n
02-22-2004, 09:05 AM
i think u'll be able to do the same thing with the th than we do with others ; from what i read in pdafrance review, the movie recorder is to be delivered as an update for TH.

CliePet
02-22-2004, 10:36 AM
> Will I be able to record 160 by 160 resolution movie from the actuall camera on the Th-55? If not then how?

The CLIE records video at 160x112
You need a MovieRecorder app. There is one in previous versions of CLIEs, but that is a gray-area of piracy.
I have an open source simple movie recorder app that is lame.
Hopefully the rumored TH update will address this.

joejoe
02-22-2004, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by c0mm0n
i think u'll be able to do the same thing with the th than we do with others ; from what i read in pdafrance review, the movie recorder is to be delivered as an update for TH.

Not sure I understood the same thing from that site. It said (I'm paraphrasing) that the Movie Recorder was supposed to be ready to work with the TH55 motherboard but it wasn't done in time for the release of this unit. They *hoped* (article said: "Esperons...") that Sony support would release this missing program in the near future.

Did I misunderstand this?

c0mm0n
02-22-2004, 10:54 AM
It's been also mentionned on the board, where i read it would be likely it will be un update ; sony also "promised" panchat for ux we never saw it...

Eddy
02-22-2004, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by c0mm0n
.........sony also "promised" panchat for ux we never saw it...


Oh I still remember that back then, yeah, whatever happened to "panchat" application anyway? :confused:
Would be nice to be able to use the UX's camera as a webcam directly off the UX unit via WiFi. (somewhat like a standalone unit, & not to use the UX as a webcam for the PC.)

Still anxiously waiting....

c0mm0n
02-22-2004, 11:22 AM
since the api camera released i'll be more optimistic than ever :)

Unregistered
02-26-2004, 02:41 PM
Could you send me the link please? I just bough the TH-55 and I am dying to try this!!! Email Lansingdm@yahoo.com

rlc7254
02-26-2004, 02:52 PM
Originally posted by winexprt
Oh wow! I just caught that. My link has been deleted! Don't know what to think about that since I own a legal copy of that software..Hmmm.

You own a legal copy, but I believe the license for it does not give you the right to redistribute it for free.

I would be interested in knowing (since I still have my UX50) where on the disc is the movie recorder located? I looked through the disc and didn't find it. I assumed the movier recorder was in ROM.

&nbsp;:D

LeggNet
02-26-2004, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by rlc7254

I would be interested in knowing (since I still have my UX50) where on the disc is the movie recorder located? I looked through the disc and didn't find it. I assumed the movier recorder was in ROM.

&nbsp;:D

It is in ROM.&nbsp; Just use FileZ or ZLauncher's File Manager or something to copy MovieRecorder.prc to a memory stick then copy it onto the TH.&nbsp; Simple!

Cheers, Rich

winexprt
02-26-2004, 05:11 PM
Originally posted by rlc7254


You own a legal copy, but I believe the license for it does not give you the right to redistribute it for free.

I would be interested in knowing (since I still have my UX50) where on the disc is the movie recorder located? I looked through the disc and didn't find it. I assumed the movier recorder was in ROM.

&nbsp;:D

That wasn't even my link.

Anyhoo...I got the UXs' movie recorder off of this site (cliesource) last september when it was being passed around to us NX80V owners so we could use our CF slot to record movies onto a CF card. Yes, it's in the ROM.

rlc7254
02-26-2004, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by winexprt


That wasn't even my link.

Anyhoo...I got the UXs' movie recorder off of this site (cliesource) last september when it was being passed around to us NX80V owners so we could use our CF slot to record movies onto a CF card. Yes, it's in the ROM.

Sorry, guess that's what happens when I just hit reply and start typing without looking/thinking.

&nbsp;:D

BDiddy404
02-27-2004, 03:33 PM
I loaded movie recorder on my TH and it works but in the preview window, I the picture and refresh lines running all through it. Is this just an anomoly or is it normal? There is no flicker control setting to correct this like in clie camera. I don't have my memory stick yet so I don't know if it shows up in video.

bluguru
02-28-2004, 12:13 AM
Question: I have used filez to copy the prc off my NX80. I copied it to the palm card. Do I need to put it into rom or is the "palm card" of my Th55 enough (and make it launchable). I am new to filez, so any specific directions would be greatly appreciated. Also, I noticed two camera apps on the nx80. I copied both, since I was not sure. Help!

Jason777
03-08-2004, 07:01 PM
I copied the movie recorder from my nx70v using filez to the th55 and it won't work?

Are there any more files I need to copy or doesn't this version work?

Thanks.

Jason.

Nikki205
03-09-2004, 08:16 AM
I copied the MovieRecorder version 1.2 from my NX80v to my card. Then popped card into TH at Circuit City and it ran fine. Recorded movies, switched and took pix without problems.
Went back home and was able to view and play what I had recorded on Th on my NX.
Ran it from the card, not ram so I don't know if that makes a difference.Shouldn't, but who knows. Good luck.

ricky182
03-09-2004, 09:56 AM
anyone has the MovieRecorder.prc file and willing to share ? .... been lookin for tat file.
(just lost my ux ... )

jason777
03-09-2004, 10:03 AM
Can somebody e-mail me the movie recorder file, I have it but for some reason cannot get it to work on my th55.

giasone777@hotmail.com

Thanks.

Jason.

clietoris
03-09-2004, 10:27 AM
I have the video recorder and it works very well actually.

bluguru
03-09-2004, 11:38 AM
Am I missing something? I copied the cliecamera.prc to my MS and dumped it into the laucher folder and the camera function works fine, but when I try to change it from "still" to "movie" I get a "movie recorder not found" message.

I could not get it to launch by moving it to rom either. Anyone care to give explicit instructions for the "filez" challenged?

coolride
03-09-2004, 07:21 PM
Did you copy cliecamera.prc or movierecorder.prc? The TH55 should already have the cliecamera.prc. That might be why it won't work.

bluguru
03-09-2004, 09:29 PM
Thanks coolride. I think I copied the wrong file. I do not have my NX anymore, so I guess I am out of luck.

TJ37
03-09-2004, 09:42 PM
Please PM me if you have a copy of Recorder 1.3 :)

FIA WRC
03-09-2004, 09:47 PM
The movie recorder from the UX-50 works on the TH-55 as well. You need to send it to the MS and then from there send/copy it to ram. Then it'll work. You can't just hotsnyc it over. The only file you need is the movie recorder. Not the camera or movie player.

jason777
03-09-2004, 09:58 PM
frc wia

I tried that already with my nx70v but it didn't work, I would appreciate it if somebody would e-mail me the file.

Thanks.

Jason.

giasone777@hotmail.com

hide5b2a
03-09-2004, 10:04 PM
Can anyone send me the prc file of the movie player.
Please...
hide5b2a@hotmail.com

eltaino
03-09-2004, 10:14 PM
Guys, please read the forum rules:
http://www.cliesource.com/forums/announcement.php?s=&forumid=73

Munan
03-09-2004, 10:17 PM
Very true. I took Movie Recorder off of my wife's UX-50 and it works like a charm.
Photo editor doesn't work sadly.....

Gar
03-10-2004, 10:46 PM
We played a little with this at work today. A few of us have NX units, some UX and now a couple with TH55s. Oh yea, there are those T3 owners too, they miss out on this though.
We found you can beam the movierecorder.prc to a TH. Use the file program built in to 'move' the prc from internal (doesn't show up in the launcher yet) to anywhere on the card. Then move the prc from the card to internal. Half the time it worked right off - a few found that they had to restart the TH to get the recorder to work. Of course, just about all of the units had a fatal error come up when trying to launch the recorder with the camera door shut. Yea! We have video recording on the TH now. Bummer news on the Photo Editor though. Now that I have the internal available memory I was looking forward to using it.

Jayman
03-10-2004, 10:49 PM
Link to copyrighted software deleted ... LOL

Unregistered
03-11-2004, 12:51 AM
Someone please end me the link or file to: politically_incorrect_z@hotmail.com

Much appreciated...

Unregistered
03-11-2004, 04:41 AM
Can someone please e-mail me the link or the file to locallatin808@yahoo.com?

qUBus
03-11-2004, 05:29 AM
I guess I'll post a request as well..

"please send a link or file to" proffessorr@gmx.net

thanks guys

Unregistered
03-11-2004, 10:48 AM
Can someone email me a link too? much appreciated!

darthspoon@yahoo.com

mdenio
03-11-2004, 11:25 AM
I'd loves this too. Much thanks to any and all -- devilboy3@hotpop.com

bluguru
03-11-2004, 12:11 PM
I would also much appreciate a link please

bluguru@hotmail.com

krypticide
03-11-2004, 04:15 PM
Is there a separate standalone movie recorder I could get? This would be an awesome program I could use for my lab class (working on superconducting tape), but unfortunately since I don't own a movie recording Clie I can't just move it over.

Munan
03-11-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by Gar
Bummer news on the Photo Editor though. Now that I have the internal available memory I was looking forward to using it.

I think the photoeditor thing has to do with the orientation of the UX.
It's always landscape, and the photoeditor starts that way. I don't think the TH can handle it.
If you could get it off an NX or something.... Hmmm....

Unregistered
03-11-2004, 08:34 PM
Hi,

I'd appreciate a link or copy of movierecorder.prc as well.

jim43678@yahoo.com

Thanks!!!

MicahDG
03-12-2004, 02:39 AM
I just wanted to add my report that the movierecorder.prc (v1.3) from the UX-50 is working great on my TH-55. In fact, it fits right in by adding an icon for itself in the clie viewer program :D Too bad Sony did not simply throw it in. The recordings are a lot better quality than I expected and I've had no trouble with it so far.

If anyone has any 'questions' about getting the movie player to 'work', feel free to PM me or email me at micahdg@xcomufo.com

PDA Expert
03-12-2004, 04:56 AM
Can someone pleaae email me the video software?

bucalo9
03-14-2004, 04:56 AM
Originally posted by Munan


I think the photoeditor thing has to do with the orientation of the UX.
It's always landscape, and the photoeditor starts that way. I don't think the TH can handle it.
If you could get it off an NX or something.... Hmmm....

I copied all the Photo Editor files from my NX70v to my new TH55, and the Editor works fine. The Movie recorder didn't though.

I checked here and found this thread. Anyone wanna trade my working Editor files with working Movie recorder files?

jumpyg
03-14-2004, 10:09 AM
Question: Since many have loaded the Movie Recorder onto their TH55s, has anyone tried loading the UX version of Clie Camera?

The reason I ask is that with the TH55's Camera app, you can't switch directly to the video recorder. You CAN switch from the video recorder to the camera. It would be nice to switch back and forth in either direction.

Are there any other differences between the TH55 Camera app and the UX one? Maybe someone brave can try this out.

MicahDG
03-14-2004, 12:33 PM
Bucalo9: I will trade you. I've sent the recorder app already (from the UX-50); please email me the editor at micahdg@xcomufo.com Thanks!

dadwith2boyz
03-15-2004, 02:21 AM
Using Movie Recorder on the TH55 it says "Not enough free space available in the compact Falsh card...."

Is there no way to record to the palm itself?

I could not find anywhere to chage it.

Thanks

MicahDG
03-15-2004, 02:28 AM
Not that I know of. I has to go to a memory stick.

dadwith2boyz
03-15-2004, 02:53 AM
Hmm, Okay now I have to buy a Stick, as I can not find mine from my camcorder. ;(

Helium
03-22-2004, 11:51 AM
Hi there...

I need this cool movie recorder also...who can send it to me?

Dikteon@t-online.de

Thanks a lot guys! :o)

Unregistered
03-22-2004, 12:32 PM
I too wish to have the link or file to said .prc. Since I wish to fulfill the forum rules I would ask that someone email me to discuss this further, ;)
mplough@yahoo.com

Ricoh Tek
03-22-2004, 12:33 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
I too wish to have the link or file to said .prc. Since I wish to fulfill the forum rules I would ask that someone email me to discuss this further, ;)
mplough@yahoo.com
Why do I not auto login?

Ricoh Tek
03-22-2004, 12:35 PM
OKAY! I'LL TRY AGAIN!!!

Ricoh Tek
03-22-2004, 12:36 PM
This is getting old!

Ricoh Tek
03-22-2004, 12:38 PM
Okay, 1 more time,

I am the Unregistered seeking the .prc, ;)

LeggNet
03-22-2004, 12:53 PM
Smile :)

jjthe2
03-22-2004, 02:36 PM
To all those still looking, Google is
our friend. I'm not sure how
many hints I can give away without this
post being deleted. I know I can't link
directly to anything but maybe
a search string? I would suggest searching
. only on a specific site.
Could there be a clue in this post
Or
maybe not?

Sorry if this is still against the rules, but at least I had fun doing it.

Ricoh Tek
03-22-2004, 03:12 PM
Well mine was working but now everytime I load Movie Recorder I get,
"Error occured in Multimedia System. Movie Recorder will abort"

Maverik
03-22-2004, 03:23 PM
jjthe2, nice hint.

drewgolden
03-22-2004, 10:19 PM
Google, within the first 5 links:

clie ux movie recorder prc

Unregistered
03-23-2004, 09:07 PM
That was Tooooooo easy to find.
Thanks

Unregistered
03-23-2004, 09:07 PM
That was Tooooooo easy to find. Works well.
Thanks

drewgolden
03-23-2004, 09:58 PM
Drew loves Google. Ask it the right question, and you'll easily find what you're after. It's all in the keywords you use......

Now if it's Paris Hilton you're after, that's what Limewire is for :-)

Best regards,
drew

Unregistered
03-23-2004, 10:17 PM
and if you add LEGGNET to your search criteria, it will be even easier :-)

Kheldar
03-23-2004, 10:32 PM
You guys are amazing! I just got my TH55 and was looking for some good apps to put on, when I stumbled across ClieSource while investigating Legacy. I was pissed when I found out it didn't work on my clie, but fell in love with the site. And now, browsing here, I found this post. I almost didn't get the TH55 b/c I really, really wanted a video recorder. And now, I can have one! Awesome! Keep up the good work. The movie recorder, loaded with an ordinary HotSync, works perfectly.

pto2k
03-24-2004, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by Ricoh Tek
Well mine was working but now everytime I load Movie Recorder I get,
"Error occured in Multimedia System. Movie Recorder will abort"

well, i got the .prc from one friend. installed, shot two short movies, then i had this same error. can't fix even with soft reset.
i thought it had conflict with THeGoGo? removed THeGoGo, reset, no use.
then i tried to move the two preference setting files to ms, got a warning message, reset, then the movie recorder is back to normal...

btw, is the photoeditor google-able?

jumpyg
03-24-2004, 06:52 AM
well, i got the .prc from one friend. installed, shot two short movies, then i had this same error. can't fix even with soft reset.
That's unusual. I installed the video recorder almost before any other 3rd party software and had no problems at all. You are probably having a conflict with another piece of software.

I also installed just by doing a HotSync.

viaChgo
03-29-2004, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by pto2k


well, i got the .prc from one friend. installed, shot two short movies, then i had this same error. can't fix even with soft reset.
i thought it had conflict with THeGoGo? removed THeGoGo, reset, no use.
then i tried to move the two preference setting files to ms, got a warning message, reset, then the movie recorder is back to normal...

btw, is the photoeditor google-able?

I'm getting the same error. What are the 2 pref files that need to be moved?

Unregistered
03-29-2004, 10:29 AM
I will email a copy of my movie recorder to anyone who wants one Lansingdm@yahoo.com It is ripped from a UX-50 and works great on my TH-55.

Heidegeist
03-29-2004, 11:35 AM
But I experienced the sound of the recorded movies as very bad. It sounds hard compressed and not as good as the videos recorded with my nx70 do.

joker123
03-29-2004, 12:36 PM
you guys ROCK!!! Thanks for the tips of Movie recorder

joker123
03-29-2004, 01:09 PM
how do I play it on computer ? (I mean the .mqv file)
Thanks

viaChgo
03-29-2004, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by joker123
how do I play it on computer ? (I mean the .mqv file)
Thanks

I believe you can just change the file extension from .mqv to .mov & then it should work

MicahDG
03-29-2004, 10:06 PM
You don't even have to change the extension. Simple double-click the movie, tell it to "always open with this program..." and select QuickTime. It will then associate any .mqv file with quicktime.

*YellowRose*
03-30-2004, 07:26 AM
Originally posted by MicahDG
You don't even have to change the extension. Simple double-click the movie, tell it to "always open with this program..." and select QuickTime. It will then associate any .mqv file with quicktime. You DO need to have the most recent quicktime installed on your PC though . . . old versions won't 'cut it' . . . :)

Tristandouille
03-31-2004, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by Munan

I don't think the TH can handle it.


...it does :-)
I simply copied the 'PhotoEditor.prc' -- not '_PhotoEditor.prc' -- file from my UX50 to a MS. [actually, the only issue was to _find_ that §&$% application]

Details from the file:

Name:PhotoEditor.prc
Creator: CNVS
Version: 1.1
Size: 195 kb

krypticide
03-31-2004, 08:25 AM
I don't remember if my old NR70 had a photo editor. How good is it?

Tristandouille
03-31-2004, 11:36 AM
How good is it ?

Answer will really depends on your expectations:

- if you're looking for a fun tool allowing you to draw (scribble really :-) on an overlay, then it is good ;
- if you're looking for a downsized PhotoShop... euh, it will not do !

dmale7
03-31-2004, 10:15 PM
It's been such a long time...about a year since I've posted dropped in as often as in the last 24 hours. I bought the new th55 yesterday. I dropped my baby (My nx70) and trashed the screen the day before. Now it's time for the latest STUFF. I've read through most of the threads and am having trouble getting movie recorder from a certain site....the site comes up as a few pages of gibberish. I have movie recorder on my NX70...is it the same as the one on the UX? How do I get to it. Please PM me or email me...I don't want anyone breaking the rules. We didn't have any of these rules last year, when the creative juices were flowing. INNOVATION CANNOT BE STIFLED! It's good to be back!

davy
04-05-2004, 12:28 PM
look in google my friend.... its there... thanks a lot guys dont have my TH yet...but really excited about this... have to wait another 2 weeks for my TH... wow i cant sleep !

blackmax
04-05-2004, 02:52 PM
I've seen several references to the Movie Recorder software, but the provided links don't go there. Does anyone know where to find it?

davy
04-05-2004, 08:59 PM
try add LEGGNET in your search box works for me.... :)

Unregistered
04-13-2004, 04:56 PM
I just bought a TH55 and have a NX 80 and NX 70 both with broken screens. Is there anyway for me to get the movie recoreder off of them.

Thanks,
Josh

enderenya
04-13-2004, 08:22 PM
Josh, you don't want that version anyway. You want the UX50 version. See the post right before yours. G O O G L E

PEG UX-50
04-16-2004, 05:41 PM
Yup mine worksfine!

lateshift
04-16-2004, 10:21 PM
Yes yes yes!!!! Thanks you all! Movie recorder works great and picked up World Clock ta boot... One week with my TH55 (after three years with a Visor Edge), so much new stuff to catch up on, this is a great place to start.

Anyone have a Brit. TH55 here in the states?

MicahDG
04-18-2004, 07:36 PM
If anyone is STILL having trouble finding the movie recording app, check my little web page here:
http://www.xcomufo.com/palm/

Unregistered
04-19-2004, 06:46 AM
Originally posted by bucalo9


I copied all the Photo Editor files from my NX70v to my new TH55, and the Editor works fine. The Movie recorder didn't though.

I checked here and found this thread. Anyone wanna trade my working Editor files with working Movie recorder files?


You can mail me with Photo editor at kkokkolis@okana.gr
I can mail back the movie recorder if I know your address. It works OK on my TH55

strider_mt2k
04-19-2004, 08:52 AM
Thanks for the helpful website!

tsensei
04-19-2004, 10:24 AM
thanx for the WebSite.

:)

medder
04-19-2004, 09:53 PM
Link for download

http://necobi.idv.tw/documents/programs/for_palm/Movie%20Recorder.prc

MicahDG
04-20-2004, 02:49 AM
You might want to stick a "%20" between the words of the filename to make up the space.