Sony Europe anncounced TH55, TJ37, TJ27

[The Mad Dog]

They are in "old" Europe!!!

Sony announced TH55, TJ37, TJ27

The TH55 has got intergrated Wireless Lan and Bluetooth, and everything what the others have. Color only in black.

 

Its price is 399 Euros - 299 pounds (510 US$)

The TJ37 and TJ27 have the same specs like all over the world.

 

The Price of the TJ37 is 299 Euros - 249 pounds,  Color silver

The TJ 27 wiil cost 199 Euros - 169 pounds,  Color dark silver

[Gazpacho]

399 EUR?!?!?!?!?!

GOODBYE T3 :-D

[Gazpacho]

Er, I couldn't find it on SonyStyle Europe. Could you pass a link please?

[GummyDancer]

Why Europe versions get Bluetooth...........

[The Mad Dog]

Originally posted by Gazpacho
Er, I couldn't find it on SonyStyle Europe. Could you pass a link please?

You are right, no adds on the netherland page. Go to a page of England, Germany or France

[fitzer]

Here you go

http://tinyurl.com/23q49

[Gazpacho]

Thank you sir!

[patrickl]

Just read in the specs:
Wireless connectivity Yes, with optional card
Ehm ...

[ClieKun]

WHWY HWY HWY WHY WHY! At this point who cares anynore. Japan is not getting it. WE SHOULD...........I am not going to cry about.wait like me and the next set of devices will have them.

[The Mad Dog]

Originally posted by patrickl
Just read in the specs:

Ehm ...

Isaw it too. I think they have a standart excel file, and they forgot to change it :p

[ClieKun]

oh boy........thats all we need is more misinformation :o

[Gazpacho]

Originally posted by patrickl
Just read in the specs:

Ehm ...

I bet they'll send you a complimentary one if you show that mistake to them. :)

CLIÉ(TM) TH55; putting a multitude of convenient functions in your hand. Explore and discover a new mobile lifestyle!
Built-in Wireless LAN (IEEE802.11B) and Bluetooth®
Integrated Digital Camera
Audio Player and Voice Recorder
CLIE Organizer Application
320 x 480 dots High Resolution Colour Display
Operating System languages: English, French or German


There you go.

[ClieKun]

european are they only devices that comes with BT.others in the world don`t.

[Gazpacho]

Originally posted by ClieKun
european are they only devices that comes with BT.others in the world don`t.

Thanks for repeating it for the zillionth time, Cliekun. :)

[xynos]

i certainly didn't expect the price to be so high! I mean, at BB, its $320 vs Euro 399..

[patrickl]

Other shops will have it cheaper too. At SonyStyle.com its's $399. Add some VAT and BT and there isn't much difference.

[xynos]

will VAT be added to users outside of Europe?

[The Mad Dog]

vat included in all european prices

[xynos]

any way to claim the vat back?

[The Mad Dog]

sorry, i dont know. On UK sites stands "VAT included" . I dont know whats VAT meens :confused:

[xynos]

VAT - Value Added Tax

[ConraDargo]

VAT = Value Added Tax

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by xynos
VAT - Value Added Tax
Doh!

[cjones]

Ok... why hasn't somebody just posted 'http://sonystyle.co.uk' or 'http://shop.sonystyle-europe.com'? I personally couldn't get to that other site that was posted (from work at least).

Also.. shouldn't we not just be able to order the TH55 from them right on that webpage (given it's got BT in it)? Or is it not that simple?

-chris

[orol]

VAT is like 15 to 20%. varies from country to country

but the price is just fine.

[xynos]

i tried ordering from sonystyle.co.uk but they won't ship outside of uk.. :(

[The Mad Dog]

Originally posted by orol
VAT is like 15 to 20%. varies from country to country

but the price is just fine.

AHHH, now, I know what means "VAT". In Germany its called "Mehrwertsteuer":eek: . Germans have to give away 16% "VAT":D:D:D

[xynos]

there must be a way for people to get the VAT back... Its like in Canada - non-residents can get the GST back..

[cybersony]

This document is a "must read" for people that try to buy it in europe.

http://shop.sonystyle-europe.com/SonyStyle/b2c/legal/tnc_en.htm

[winexprt]

Originally posted by cybersony
This document is a "must read" for people that try to buy it in europe.

http://shop.sonystyle-europe.com/SonyStyle/b2c/legal/tnc_en.htm


"Must Read'!??

OH MY GOD that thing was like a MILE long and written in 'Legalese'.

[cybersony]

See this :

10. Delivery
Products will be delivered to delivery addresses within any country of the European Economic Area or Switzerland (but excluding any countries that are not listed as being available for selection through the country selector on the Sony website or in the list of countries available through the Sony telephone call centre, where suitable logistics and/or support arrangements may currently not be in place) only, except as otherwise exceptionally agreed with Sony. Sony will use its discretion in selecting a reputable carrier and appropriate means of delivery. Sony may deliver Products by installments in any sequence. Where Products are delivered by installments, each installment is deemed to be the subject of a separate Contract. No default or failure by Sony in respect of one or more installments will affect the Contract in respect of Products previously delivered, or undelivered Products. If Sony notifies you that it is unable to deliver any installment of Products, you will be deemed to accept those installments already delivered (subject to applicable law).

[cykalan]

Originally posted by xynos


how come you are using my homemade UX50 avatar? :)

i don't mind actually, welcome aboard cathay pacific. haha. ;)

[cykalan]

i think i am going to a TH55 from Europe as well......anyone know any online shops that do ship out to places other than Europe? :)

[winexprt]

Originally posted by cybersony
See this :

10. Delivery
Products will be delivered to delivery addresses within any country of the European Economic Area or Switzerland (but excluding any countries that are not listed as being available for selection through the country selector on the Sony website or in the list of countries available through the Sony telephone call centre, where suitable logistics and/or support arrangements may currently not be in place) only, except as otherwise exceptionally agreed with Sony. Sony will use its discretion in selecting a reputable carrier and appropriate means of delivery. Sony may deliver Products by installments in any sequence. Where Products are delivered by installments, each installment is deemed to be the subject of a separate Contract. No default or failure by Sony in respect of one or more installments will affect the Contract in respect of Products previously delivered, or undelivered Products. If Sony notifies you that it is unable to deliver any installment of Products, you will be deemed to accept those installments already delivered (subject to applicable law).

I see it all too well! More ''LEGALESE'. Haa. ;)

There is nothing in that that says I can't physically go over to Europe & buy one. Or have a friend buy it and ship it to me. All it talks about is the fact Sony won't ship it out of the E.U.

[ClieKun]

Originally posted by Gazpacho


Thanks for repeating it for the zillionth time, Cliekun. :)
oh wow I did not think you can count so high.:p

[rened]

Any chance for a copy of DocToGO like in de USA?

[The Mad Dog]

no, i have to say, that the europ comes without DocsToGo

[The Mad Dog]

I AM WONDERING ABOUT THIS !!!

CLIÉ(TM) Viewer;Memory Stick(TM) Backup;CLIÉ(TM) Mail;Picsel Viewer for CLIÉ(TM);CLIÉ(TM) FAQ;Data Import;Graffiti 2;CLIÉ(TM) Files;NetFront v3.0 for CLIÉ(TM);Decuma;Movie Player;CLIÉ(TM) Organizer;CoMa;MacroMedia Flash Player;CLIÉ(TM) Camera;SMS

[rened]

sonystyle does indeed mention the free download. Hope this just an setup mistake on the european site, just like the netfront version and the wireless card...

[orol]

mad dog: it might be a type .. the same as with the WiFi (with CF card) ..

[The Mad Dog]

That is true. But Sony is making to much mistakes!!!
But its really bad fro the guys who buy it and dont get DocsToGo inculuded

[Unregistered]

Europe more popular with bluetooth?? How many of us in SIngapore has mobile phone with bluetooth?? Extremely common!! Why no bluetooth in the TH55 sold here.
Sony Singapore has started the pre-sale of TJ-37 but no news yet for TH55.
If you buy from Europe, the price is higher, i compared other models of Clie in the europe website with Singapore.
U could claim back the VAT, but still expensive.
I hope the TH55 with Bluetooth will be introduce here!!

[ClieKun]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Europe more popular with bluetooth?? How many of us in SIngapore has mobile phone with bluetooth?? Extremely common!! Why no bluetooth in the TH55 sold here.
Sony Singapore has started the pre-sale of TJ-37 but no news yet for TH55.
If you buy from Europe, the price is higher, i compared other models of Clie in the europe website with Singapore.
U could claim back the VAT, but still expensive.
I hope the TH55 with Bluetooth will be introduce here!!
Firrst who the hell knows where you from you UNREG.....Second IF you know aything about BT Europe is the biggest user of BT.....

[ClieMarty]

Just some remarks on the Euro 399 price tag:

1
SonyStyle is usually charging much higher than street prices,
i.e. in Germany (all including VAT):
NX73 sonystyle: 499 / street: 430
UX50 sonystyle: 749 / street: 640

2
Once available in March I think steetprices will soon drop to around 350-375 Euro.

3
Keeping that in mind I think this is a pretty competitive pricing compared with i.e. the T3 which sells in Germany for 445 Euro (palmone direct) to 350 Euro (street). I mean the TH55 comes with WiFi and camera (which the T3 does not offer).

4
I was on the way moving over from my NX70 to a T3. Well, my NX70 will be on eBay soon maybe selling for ~200 Euros. Thanks to the TH I will stick with Clié a little longer.

5
Introduction of the TH55 in Europe should bring down prices of the UX (which is just ridiculous) and the NX73 (which might be phased out soon).

6
I hate that price thing. I remember getting me a NR70 for around 480 bucks (used on ebay) and my girlfriend a T675C (new for 375 Euros back then on Amazon) AARGGG! Well I replaced the NR by an NX70 together WiFi card an BT stick. Thank heavens a already sold these connectivity cards already for around 100 euros each.
Now the TH has finally everything a need already included.

[drwong]

one interesting thing in the spec also
Video recording!!


Camera specifications Self-timer function;White Balance: Auto/Outdoor/Indoor-A/Indoor-B;Picture Format (Recording) JPEG : JPEG (DCF format);Lens: F2.8 focal length, f = 3.6 mm;Picture Format (Playback)

Movie : Quicktime, MPEG-1;1/4 inch CMOS image sensor, 310,000 pixels;Focus Range: 0.23m to infinity;Brightness: -2~+2 (5 steps);Picture effect : Sepia/B&W;Picture size (playback) Movie : 426x320, 320x240, 160x112;Picture size (Rec.) JPEG : 640x480/320x240/320x480/160x120;Picture size (playback) JPEG : 320x240, 160x240;Picture Format (Playback) JPEG : JPEG (DCF format)

[fitzer]

Just to chime in on the VAT thing, if you personally purchase an item in the UK and then take it outside the EU you can claim the VAT back but this is not (AFAIK) allowed on internet orders as the authorities can't be sure it's not a front for a European store to get stuff shipped to the States and then back again to avoid the tax.

[rened]

Originally posted by drwong
one interesting thing in the spec also
Video recording!!


Camera specifications Self-timer function;White Balance: Auto/Outdoor/Indoor-A/Indoor-B;Picture Format (Recording) JPEG : JPEG (DCF format);Lens: F2.8 focal length, f = 3.6 mm;Picture Format (Playback)

Movie : Quicktime, MPEG-1;1/4 inch CMOS image sensor, 310,000 pixels;Focus Range: 0.23m to infinity;Brightness: -2~+2 (5 steps);Picture effect : Sepia/B&W;Picture size (playback) Movie : 426x320, 320x240, 160x112;Picture size (Rec.) JPEG : 640x480/320x240/320x480/160x120;Picture size (playback) JPEG : 320x240, 160x240;Picture Format (Playback) JPEG : JPEG (DCF format)

The part of the specs you copied don't say that. The recording part is about still images.