View Full Version : TH @ Best Buy Preorder for $319.99
howdie247
02-10-2004, 09:54 AM
I just checked out bestbuy.com this morning and it shows the TH at only $319.99. Don't know if this is a misprint or if it's the official price the store is selling it at. That's only $20 more than the TJ-37!
ClieKun
02-10-2004, 10:05 AM
here we GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Ball is in PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 10:26 AM
I'm not a registered user, but I want to share this with people who are crazy in TH55 (including me...). I've just placed the pre-order at BestBuy.com. Yes, the pre-order price is $319.99 (I also think it's a misprint but who cares...?), but it doesn't mean the store price will be the same and it may be different once it's released. Also, this may not be available in stores. This is from BestBuy.com --> "From our expanded online assortment; not available in Best Buy retail stores." Correct me if I'm wrong...
jumpyg
02-10-2004, 11:25 AM
WOW! Thanks a lot for the tip! I ordered mine for $319.99 + $19.20 tax for a total of $339.19. They even threw in free shipping!
Check this out from Best Buy's Pre-Order FAQ:
Q: Can you ensure the price listed at the time the pre-order is placed will remain the same?
A: Yes and no. When a price is assigned to a pre-ordered item, we are reasonably certain it will remain at that price. However, from time to time ¿ given how far in advance we make items available to our customers ¿ a price change will occur. If this happens, you will always receive the lower of the two prices. For example, if you order an item for $49.99 and the pre-order price is later dropped to $39.99, you will be charged only $39.99. If you ordered the item at $49.99 and the price rises to $59.99, you still pay only $49.99. When you place a pre-order, you are assured our lowest pre-release price.
Note that if the price rises later, you still only pay the pre-order price! I don't see any downsides here.
I wasn't going to buy this until I read some more reviews, but at that price, I feel it was a no-brainer. I've got plenty of cash left now to buy a Wi-Fi router. Woo-hoo!
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 11:57 AM
I just pre-ordered mine also, couldn't stop myself , just printed the receipt- got if for 319.99- I am certain this is a misprint but hopefully they will honor the price. just hoping all the local retails don't have them in weeks before mine shows up - that could be a test of my patience- but at that price I am saving at least 80 bones. hope it all works out for us pre order dudes.
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 12:01 PM
I ordered one too - great price except for the tax . Oh well, California needs the $23.00. The price does seem a little too good to be true
jumpyg
02-10-2004, 12:23 PM
I found the TH-55 for $373 at CompSource:
http://www.c-source.com/csource/newsite/ttechnote.asp?part_no=PEGTH55U
You probably don't have to pay tax, and shipping is free, but Best Buy is still the price to beat.
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 12:24 PM
If the price rises tomorrow, I believe you'll have to pay the new price unless you have a proof like a printout to show the lower price. I had the experience before... Also, the store price is not always the same as the online price. I bought a T3 couple weeks ago in a BestBuy store for $299.99, but the online price is $399.99.
jumpyg
02-10-2004, 12:28 PM
If the price rises tomorrow, I believe you'll have to pay the new price unless you have a proof like a printout to show the lower price.
Look at the FAQ I printed above from BestBuy.com. It says if the price goes up, you pay the price you pre-ordered at. That seems plain as day to me. They sent me a confirmation email and I printed a receipt.
Search for "pre-order" at Best Buy.com and you'll find that document. It also says that your credit card won't be charged until they ship the item, which is nice.
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 12:40 PM
I totally agree with you (I'm the 1st unregistered user in this thread who already placed the pre-order.). Maybe you misunderstood what I mean... Yes, they will honor the pre-order price. What I was trying to say is if you don't place the order today and the price goes up tomorrow, you'll have to pay the higher price. I'm just trying to tell people not to miss the chance (if it really is a misprint, BestBuy will adjust the price very quickly.). You can still refund it within 14 days.
rldunn
02-10-2004, 12:50 PM
Wow, that Best Buy deal is an awesome deal. Thanks for finding that out, and also thanks to jumpyg for posting the details of the Preorder price. That was enough to put me over the top. I placed my order, and I'll think about this for a month. If I decide I don't want it, I'll either return it or sell it on ebay. Or if I keep it, I'm sure I can sell my NX80 plus my Wifi card (both only a few months old) for at least the Best Buy price for the TH. Thanks again!!
rldunn
02-10-2004, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
I totally agree with you (I'm the 1st unregistered user in this thread who already placed the pre-order.). Maybe you misunderstood what I mean... Yes, they will honor the pre-order price. What I was trying to say is if you don't place the order today and the price goes up tomorrow, you'll have to pay the higher price. I'm just trying to tell people not to miss the chance (if it really is a misprint, BestBuy will adjust the price very quickly.). You can still refund it within 14 days. To clarify, you can refund within 14 days of when you actually receive it, not 14 days from placing the order. And they don't charge you until it ships, so you're right, if you think you might want to go for it, there's really no negative to putting in your pre-order.
ClieKun
02-10-2004, 06:28 PM
wow does it matter?
contempt
02-10-2004, 06:40 PM
The only thing that sucks is I read earlier posts that stated delivery for 2/20. The site now states 3/4 - 3/6 for delivery.
ClieKun
02-10-2004, 06:46 PM
oh geshhhhhhhh :( not good sorry
joejoe
02-10-2004, 06:49 PM
Are you talking about BB or Sonystyle?
I ordered a little after noon at BB online & it gave 3/4 - 3/9 as the "Estimated Arrival Date."
The Sonystyle site says: "Preorder Model - Available for shipping on or about Feb 20, 2004. Refer to your selected shipping method to calculate total delivery time. "
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 07:19 PM
319.95 is likely the dealer cost that someone mistakenly put online - better grab it while you *might* can...
ClieKun
02-10-2004, 07:19 PM
read a little closer to the other posts.
riversen
02-10-2004, 07:23 PM
As a person who has already ordered one, I think this is a steal. I wasn't going to buy one either, but at this price it was a no brainer. If they start to ship on 2/20 and it takes 7 to 10 business days to deliver (i.e. Ground rate, etc.), then the 3/4 to 3/9 would on target... especially if they have a crazy surge in orders from this misprint. :) You always want to give a ETA that is reasonable and won't cause a flood of angry buyers to call you. That is good pre-emptive customer service. ;)
riversen
02-10-2004, 07:25 PM
Originally posted by contempt
The only thing that sucks is I read earlier posts that stated delivery for 2/20. The site now states 3/4 - 3/6 for delivery.
***UPDATE... oops***
You are mixed up. Sony said that they would start to ship on 2/20 and NOT to expect delivery on 2/20. BB's ETA is right on schedule and good business sense.
ClieKun
02-10-2004, 07:29 PM
First well see if its on time when the date is here.
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
319.95 is likely the dealer cost that someone mistakenly put online - better grab it while you *might* can...
I used to be a Sony Employee. As an employee, the typical discount rate was about 20% off the list. So at $400, $320 is right on the money.
Sony used to brag about selling to employees at dealer price. This is definately a good deal.
ClieKun
02-10-2004, 10:11 PM
sign in maybe? of just hidding?
Griff
02-10-2004, 10:22 PM
I found out about the deal on the DB5 list and just ordered one with overnight delivery. I dunno, I figured the extra $10 was worth having it sooner than later. ;-)
My order totalled $356 after tax and shipping..slated to be here between 3/4 and 3/6...unless I hear about OS6 devices being announced and I cancel the order.
Truly a great deal...and from Best Buy...is the end near? ;-)
ClieKun
02-10-2004, 10:27 PM
nice price.......wonder if they are going to be able to ship faster thou.
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 10:31 PM
everything seemed right- i mean the expect dates seemed to all match up if you consider the free ground shipping and take into consideration whats on sonystyle.... i mean thats a deal that you can't go wrong with. 343.59 with tax- that's got to be the dealer price or dam close to it. how come hundres of people on this th55 forum arn't jumping in and ordering??? thanks who ever found this and was kind enough to pass it along- nice work.
ClieKun
02-10-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
everything seemed right- i mean the expect dates seemed to all match up if you consider the free ground shipping and take into consideration whats on sonystyle.... i mean thats a deal that you can't go wrong with. 343.59 with tax- that's got to be the dealer price or dam close to it. how come hundres of people on this th55 forum arn't jumping in and ordering??? thanks who ever found this and was kind enough to pass it along- nice work. :o :rolleyes: login if you going say this type of commetns otherwise its worthless.:o
SamuraiCatJB
02-10-2004, 11:02 PM
I can't seem to login there.... it locks up in login... so can't order.... :( :( :(
Griff
02-10-2004, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
I can't seem to login there.... it locks up in login... so can't order.... :( :( :(
Try creating a new account there instead...yes a bit inconvenient but I think it'll work.
SamuraiCatJB
02-10-2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by Griff
Try creating a new account there instead...yes a bit inconvenient but I think it'll work.
I tried that too... locks up after you submit account info... :( (but still before order)
tried IE and MyIE2 just in case.... :(
contempt
02-10-2004, 11:21 PM
yeah i experienced the lockup as well. what griff is suggesting is creating a new account outside of the shopping cart. configure addresses etc., then go back to your shopping cart and it'll work fine. it's poorly done.
Griff
02-10-2004, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
I tried that too... locks up after you submit account info... :( (but still before order)
tried IE and MyIE2 just in case.... :(
That's FWeird. Tried clearing cookies and history/temp internet files? Might be worth looking through your cookies and deleting anything from bestbuy.com.
Unregistered
02-10-2004, 11:39 PM
yikes... I just ordered one for myself.... $346.39 total.... let's see if I'd get it in March.
Unregistered
02-11-2004, 12:01 AM
You guys realize that this isn't a price mistake?
Ecost has the TH-55 listed for $399, add it to your cart and it drops to $329!!
http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?dpno=387195
No tax unless you're in cali.
Icthus
02-11-2004, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by rldunn
...And they don't charge you until it ships...
This is what seems to be indicated on the site, but my account was charged as soon as I placed the order.
James
Pharoz
02-11-2004, 02:16 AM
Yeah baby! Just ordered mine, too! I also got the 2-year service plan with the left-over money so I can trade in for a new one in a year or when that OS6 comes out!! My N760 just lost its last screw, too, that keeps it together... Thx alot guys!!!
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 03:08 AM
:o ok another one bits the dust! Next thread!
Thanks for posting it howdie247!
I ordered it this morning and they still took it. Unbelievable. I thought I was late from reading people's order problems. :cool:
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:03 AM
how much?
xynos
02-11-2004, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by ClieKun
how much?
I'm assuming they ordered through BB @ $319
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:32 AM
oh ok........kind of risky don`t you think?
jumpyg
02-11-2004, 08:35 AM
What do you mean risky Kun?
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:37 AM
Ok maybe I should be a little more clear sorry......since their return policy is going to be different from now on.
xynos
02-11-2004, 08:39 AM
Originally posted by ClieKun
Ok maybe I should be a little more clear sorry......since their return policy is going to be different from now on.
considering that the dates of release could be pushed back, and also considering that no one has seen the real TH, its risky alright.
SamuraiCatJB
02-11-2004, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by xynos
considering that the dates of release could be pushed back, and also considering that no one has seen the real TH, its risky alright.
its risky, I did the same thing with my NR70, however at the time my palm IIIxe was having trouble so I needed to buy a new one and If I am going to put up with the trouble waiting, I'd rather guarentee one coming in. I had the MS issue, send it for service.... *shrugs* it comes with buying new.... but I don't see anything better out already, for my uses, so now that my NR is acting up, time to replace, might as well replace new.
xynos
02-11-2004, 08:44 AM
Did BB say when they will be shipping the TH?
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:46 AM
Thats true.......But Theree are alot of people waiting for these devices. So they better be ontime...........Maybe they should give you "its its 30 days late 2% can be take off the total price :)"
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
its risky, I did the same thing with my NR70, however at the time my palm IIIxe was having trouble so I needed to buy a new one and If I am going to put up with the trouble waiting, I'd rather guarentee one coming in. I had the MS issue, send it for service.... *shrugs* it comes with buying new.... but I don't see anything better out already, for my uses, so now that my NR is acting up, time to replace, might as well replace new.
I hate when Pda die......:(
jumpyg
02-11-2004, 08:51 AM
I look at it this way: the TH-55 won't be shipped to me for a good three weeks. In the meantime, I'll read all the reviews I can. If it sounds like there are going to be problems, I can cancel the order. Even if they ship it before I decide to bail, BB will let me get a refund if the package is unopened.
Doesn't seem too risky to me.
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:53 AM
Great Idea! um..........
xynos
02-11-2004, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by ClieKun
Thats true.......But Theree are alot of people waiting for these devices. So they better be ontime...........Maybe they should give you "its its 30 days late 2% can be take off the total price :)"
that's a very nice thought, i wish they would too!
SamuraiCatJB
02-11-2004, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by ClieKun
Thats true.......But Theree are alot of people waiting for these devices. So they better be ontime...........Maybe they should give you "its its 30 days late 2% can be take off the total price :)"
my NR was two weeks late or more, I don't remember... but at least I had it... it sold out the first two batches and I was in the first batch.
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by xynos
that's a very nice thought, i wish they would too!
Would`nt that be great :D Maybe they can learn from this :D ( wishing :D)
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
my NR was two weeks late or more, I don't remember... but at least I had it... it sold out the first two batches and I was in the first batch.
Well thats cool...........the wait was small luck boy :)
Clie Users
02-11-2004, 09:31 AM
Hey ClieKun, nothing personal but PLEASE stop posting useless replies, it seems that 1/3 of the messages at CS are from you saying nothing interesting, this is not a chat room btw
CS is already slow and some of us dont have broadband yet
thank you very much and have a good day.
xynos
02-11-2004, 09:37 AM
boy did someone wake up at the wrong side of the bed!
viaChgo
02-11-2004, 09:48 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
I tried that too... locks up after you submit account info... :( (but still before order)
tried IE and MyIE2 just in case.... :(
That was happening to me too...so I just called BB & ordered one! Total came to $339.99 w/tax. Now I feel like one of you guys with my first Clie!
xynos
02-11-2004, 09:49 AM
Originally posted by viaChgo
That was happening to me too...so I just called BB & ordered one! Total came to $339.99 w/tax. Now I feel like one of you guys with my first Clie!
Welcome to the family! :)
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 10:02 AM
um.............to the nobrain user.............login and say that ok.otherwise...........you know what you can do.:o :rolleyes: :o
peakpro
02-11-2004, 10:37 AM
I happen to agree with the "no brain" user, when he states this is not a chat room. I wish there were less "Rah-rah" type posts also.
It makes getting to useful information a lttile more time consuming.
I understand everyone has a right to post what they like so I just deal with it.
peakpro
02-11-2004, 10:42 AM
and it seems you were waiting for it....
xynos
02-11-2004, 10:45 AM
This could go on for a while... :rolleyes:
rldunn
02-11-2004, 11:30 AM
Guys, back on topic please.
rldunn
02-11-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by jumpyg
I look at it this way: the TH-55 won't be shipped to me for a good three weeks. In the meantime, I'll read all the reviews I can. If it sounds like there are going to be problems, I can cancel the order. Even if they ship it before I decide to bail, BB will let me get a refund if the package is unopened.
Doesn't seem too risky to me. Actually, unless I've missed a new change, you can return for a full refund within 14 days even if the box is opened, provided that everything is still in the box that came with it.
jumpyg
02-11-2004, 11:41 AM
Actually, if you look at this page at BB.com, it appears to be a 30-day return period. That is, unless BB considers PDAs to be computers, which would make it a 14-day return period.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12098&entryURLType=category&categoryId=cat10004&type=page&entryURLID=pcmcat13300050023&contentId=1043363607061
Can you return an online purchase to a local store? Is BB's return routine a hassle?
xynos
02-11-2004, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by jumpyg
Can you return an online purchase to a local store? Is BB's return routine a hassle?
I believe you could, just like Circuit City. Anyone did it before?
riversen
02-11-2004, 11:51 AM
I have been able to return it to the store without any problems. Just an FYI.
SamuraiCatJB
02-11-2004, 11:58 AM
And I used my Amex card for double the manufacturers warrenty and extended return policies too. :) had to call, but I joined the pre-order crowd.
xynos
02-11-2004, 11:59 AM
Good luck, SamuraiCatJB. Let us know when you received your TH :)
ClieMan
02-11-2004, 12:03 PM
$320 is a heck of a deal ($340) with taxes considering that Bestbuy is everywhere but I will try to do a price match online without taxes.. is there any state that doesn't charge taxes on electronics??? I know that some states like New Jersey and Minnesota don't charge taxes on clothes and food.
xynos
02-11-2004, 12:12 PM
depending on where you are. If I were to purchase the TH from eCost, they would not charge me tax, since my domain is in Minnesota, and they're located at California.
Add:
http://money.cnn.com/2004/02/09/pf/taxes/nys_sales_tax/index.htm
SamuraiCatJB
02-11-2004, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by xynos
Good luck, SamuraiCatJB. Let us know when you received your TH :)
I am sure a lot of people will be posting here when they do. Now if the TH has a network (wifi) based sync, I would never need the cradle. :)
jumpyg
02-11-2004, 12:15 PM
Yes, ECost is $10 less if you don't pay an taxes. I also noticed that they are sellling the TJ-37 for $189.00.
However, with Best Buy it sounds like you can return the PDA to one of their stores if you are unhappy, so there is no return shipping costs. Just something to consider. By the way, how is eCost? I've been to their site a number of times, but never bought anything from them.
xynos
02-11-2004, 12:21 PM
I've bought stuff from eCost for a while now, with my 1gb ms the latest goodie i purchased from eCost. Pretty decent shipping, but they stiff you on handling charges (altho they say its free shipping). Never returned anything to them tho!
ClieMan
02-11-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by xynos
depending on where you are. If I were to purchase the TH from eCost, they would not charge me tax, since my domain is in Minnesota, and they're located at California.
hey, here Minnesota too (U of M), nice to have WiFi everywhere at the U.
xynos
02-11-2004, 12:28 PM
I go to Carlson for part-time mba. nice to see a fellow gopher :)
hawnboy
02-11-2004, 12:29 PM
What's the ship date at ecost? it seems it'll be cheaper at ecost than BB. but how long would the wait be???
LanMan
02-11-2004, 12:33 PM
I called BB, and they said that the return grace-period is 14-days on PDA's.
They also said that I could pre-order with an in-store pickup. That's nice because I have seen times when the stores had new PDA's and pre-orders from Sony were still waiting a week or two before they recieved their units.
Plus you can use a Best Buy card with no-interest for six months.
Pretty nice deal. :)
uwilloz2me
02-11-2004, 01:23 PM
I’m temped on buying this new unit, but when do you get charge for it? Is it when you pre-order it or when it gets shipped out?
xynos
02-11-2004, 01:26 PM
BB won't charge you for the unit until it ships.
uwilloz2me
02-11-2004, 01:27 PM
THX
rlc7254
02-11-2004, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by LanMan
I called BB, and they said that the return grace-period is 14-days on PDA's.
They also said that I could pre-order with an in-store pickup. That's nice because I have seen times when the stores had new PDA's and pre-orders from Sony were still waiting a week or two before they recieved their units.
Plus you can use a Best Buy card with no-interest for six months.
Pretty nice deal. :)
When the NX80 was released, I had pre-ordered from SonyStyle. I had it in hand for two weeks before any of the other online/in-stores sellers had them. Sometimes Sony does it right.
:D
Maverik
02-11-2004, 01:48 PM
I'm just wondering what they mean by they won't charge you until it ships because when I preordered it on the 10th, 345 dollars was deducted from my account almost immediatley. I contacted BB about this and they have yet to respond...
Reggie
02-11-2004, 01:48 PM
If indeed it's a misprint. I advice everyone to get it. At $400, it's already worth it. ;)
LanMan
02-11-2004, 01:49 PM
They put a "hold" on the account until they ship. Then they actually charge your account. It's the same thing hotels do when you check-in.
It's not a misprint. I spoke with a BB rep today, and that's the price that I was quoted over the phone.
rlc7254
02-11-2004, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by ClieMan
$320 is a heck of a deal ($340) with taxes considering that Bestbuy is everywhere but I will try to do a price match online without taxes.. is there any state that doesn't charge taxes on electronics??? I know that some states like New Jersey and Minnesota don't charge taxes on clothes and food.
Oregon has absolutely 100% no sales tax on anything........
:D
rlc7254
02-11-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by jumpyg
Yes, ECost is $10 less if you don't pay an taxes. I also noticed that they are sellling the TJ-37 for $189.00.
I just looked at ECost and they have the TJ-37 for $299, and the TJ-27 for $199. What is the URL that you have for that price?
:D
xynos
02-11-2004, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by rlc7254
Oregon has absolutely 100% no sales tax on anything........
:D
I knew I should've migrated to Oregon....
rldunn
02-11-2004, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by LanMan
They also said that I could pre-order with an in-store pickup. That's nice because I have seen times when the stores had new PDA's and pre-orders from Sony were still waiting a week or two before they recieved their units.Yeah, but at least when I ordered, it said that the TH wouldn't be available in-store. That is also consistent with the recent reports on here about BB drastically cutting back which handhelds they carry in store.
LanMan
02-11-2004, 04:44 PM
rldunn, that is odd, because it says that the TH55 won't be in stores right on the BB web site. Yet the rep on the phone said that it could be picked up in the store. I guess that just means that they will ship your unit to the store instead of to your home/office?
joejoe
02-11-2004, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by rlc7254
When the NX80 was released, I had pre-ordered from SonyStyle. I had it in hand for two weeks before any of the other online/in-stores sellers had them. Sometimes Sony does it right.
:D
Sony has to present some advantage (other than chocolates) for buying from them at full price.
The question then is, is it worth waiting an extra week or two to save $70-$80?
LanMan
02-11-2004, 04:46 PM
You may only be saving $50-$60 in states that charge sales tax, and have a Best Buy brick & mortar.
joejoe
02-11-2004, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by LanMan
You may only be saving $50-$60 in states that charge sales tax, and have a Best Buy brick & mortar.
BB charged 6.x% in sales tax whereas where I live it's 8.75%. That on top of the fact that you are NOT paying tax on the full $399 but only on $319. For me that represented a huge savings.
andrewcoffin
02-11-2004, 04:59 PM
LanMan-
That would be true if SonyStyle didn't charge sales tax, but, because they do in almost every state, the savings actually become even greater (since sales tax is based on a percentage of the total). I live in California and ordered from Best Buy yesterday.
My Best Buy total, with two day shipping, came to: $349.41
If I were to order from SonyStyle, and select two day shipping, my total would be: $442.99
So I saved $93.58...not bad at all!
killah fury
02-11-2004, 05:49 PM
bah! i wanted to order it using my UK credit card and delivered to my buddy in New York who would FedEx it over to me but bestbuy wont accept my card as i'm not in the USA... :-(
jumpyg
02-11-2004, 07:14 PM
I just looked at ECost and they have the TJ-37 for $299, and the TJ-27 for $199. What is the URL that you have for that price?
When you add the TJ-37 to your cart, the price becomes $289.00.
Same thing with the TH-55--the price becomes $329.00 when added to your cart.
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 07:50 PM
Circuit City carrying them yet?
Griff
02-11-2004, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
its risky, I did the same thing with my NR70, however at the time my palm IIIxe was having trouble so I needed to buy a new one and If I am going to put up with the trouble waiting, I'd rather guarentee one coming in. I had the MS issue, send it for service.... *shrugs* it comes with buying new.... but I don't see anything better out already, for my uses, so now that my NR is acting up, time to replace, might as well replace new.
Wow...how interesting...you and I are both going from an NR to the TH-55.
Considering I put my order on my AMEX card I doubt there is much risk. AMEX is known for not allowing much crap to fall upon their customers. If anything does go wrong no doubt a quick phone call will fix it.
rldunn
02-11-2004, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by LanMan
rldunn, that is odd, because it says that the TH55 won't be in stores right on the BB web site. Yet the rep on the phone said that it could be picked up in the store. I guess that just means that they will ship your unit to the store instead of to your home/office? Or the phone rep didn't know what they were talking about. :)
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:30 PM
Circuit City has them yet sorry i asked this once before.
excelir5
02-11-2004, 08:37 PM
I've been following this discussion all day. I checked the return policies at both Best Buy and eCost.
Did any body see that eCost's reurn policy is "All purchases are fianl"? As I read this, it tells me that you had better be pretty sure of what you are buying or you are stuck with it. At Best Buy, I had to pay an extra $20.00 to get 2nd Day delivery and pay for taxes, but I would rather pay the extra $20, beyong what eCost would charge, and be able to return the TH55 if it turns out to be less than what I hope for.
I am still a little concerned about the Processor Issue, I read alot of Ebooks and use Adobe for Palm and even on an NX80 that can get a little slow, so if the TH55 is too slow for me to stand, I can return it and at worst be out the initial $20 more that eCost and maybe a 6% restocking fee. I can live with that, I think. It is bleeding edge, so there are risks to be taken, it's just a mater of mitigating the risks involved.
And besides, my Boss will buy my NX for $150 if I like the TH55, that takes a little of the sting out of the hole process.:)
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:40 PM
ohhhhhhhh i hope some read it before buy. Or they will be here crabbing about them.
excelir5
02-11-2004, 08:42 PM
And, no, Circuit City dosen't have the TH55 yet and may not. I heard a rumor that they may be going Belly Up.
Watch for some major sales over the next few weekends, you might be able to get some really good deals if you can move fast and have the loose change.
REPEAT, this is a RUMOR that is floating around work and is totally unfounded. But it might explain why they aren't offering much in the way of Clies. I think I even saw a listing for an NX60 on their Website.:confused:
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by excelir5
And, no, Circuit City dosen't have the TH55 yet and may not. I heard a rumor that they may be going Belly Up.
Watch for some major sales over the next few weekends, you might be able to get some really good deals if you can move fast and have the loose change.
REPEAT, this is a RUMOR that is floating around work and is totally unfounded. But it might explain why they aren't offering much in the way of Clies. I think I even saw a listing for an NX60 on their Website.:confused:
oh or maybe be taken over like
"GOODGUYS" was last year.
depret
02-11-2004, 09:18 PM
Originally posted by howdie247
I just checked out bestbuy.com this morning and it shows the TH at only $319.99. Don't know if this is a misprint or if it's the official price the store is selling it at. That's only $20 more than the TJ-37!
Never work late and check clie source every lunch hour. I (and others for sure) want to hear if BB and others truly honor the prices some of you have quoted in the thread.
SamuraiCatJB
02-11-2004, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Griff
Wow...how interesting...you and I are both going from an NR to the TH-55.
Considering I put my order on my AMEX card I doubt there is much risk. AMEX is known for not allowing much crap to fall upon their customers. If anything does go wrong no doubt a quick phone call will fix it.
yup, I like my card, very handy for warrenties and stuff. :) instant extended warrenty as well as return policy where there is not one. :D
so.... which one of us will get it first? I sent mine regular shipping, no express, so it will come ground 3-5 days on average depending on source. did you accelerate yours or take it ground?
Griff
02-11-2004, 09:52 PM
I did mine overnight shipping...I figured the $10 was worth it so that I can have it for that weekend. I also figured the $10 was less than half the d@mn tax so why not. :D
SamuraiCatJB
02-11-2004, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Griff
I did mine overnight shipping...I figured the $10 was worth it so that I can have it for that weekend. I also figured the $10 was less than half the d@mn tax so why not. :D
good you can tell me how the migration goes before I risk it. :D hehehehehe
Griff
02-11-2004, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
good you can tell me how the migration goes before I risk it. :D hehehehehe
LOL...ok, fair enough. I expect it to go fairly smoothly for the most essential data. I also expect ISilo, HandBase, Shadow and those sort of apps to be fine. My biggest challenge is finding my favorite hacks for use with OS5. For example I am sure I'll have to register Fonts4Whatever since I'll lose FontHack.
depret
02-11-2004, 10:21 PM
Click the best buy in thread and got nothing. Dejection!
Did a google search with "TH55 PDA Price" and found the BestBuy price.
www.dealtime.com/xPC-Sony_Clie_PE
Got all the way to credit card info and decided to read the reviews on BestBuy (seemed very negative) so I decide to call the phone number to verify the price was still good. I waited 5 minutes (max). YESSS!
Best Buy: Phone Orders
To order this product by phone, please call:
1-888-237-8289
For the best service, remember to mention
DealTime when you call
Rodell took my information and I have a TH-55 pre-order for 319.99 with Free Shipping. Should get here March 4-9.
What the heck, you only live once.
Asked the guy taking the order if they have gotten a lot of pre-orders. He processed 5 yesterday and there are about 50 guys/gals taking orders (150!).
I also asked why the great price? He said he did not know but it comes down from corporate.
howdie247, THANKS FOR THE TIP!
Unregistered
02-11-2004, 10:24 PM
Count me in... just pre-ordered mine from BB. Looks like there'll be an eBay auction beginning around 3/1/04 for my NX70, wifi card, cf cards Ambicom modem and numerous cases. :)
Cheers, Rich
(posting via NX wifi on the mobile site - so if I show up as unregistered, it's me: LeggNet!)
depret
02-11-2004, 10:24 PM
Tested the link above and got an error.
Did the google search and clicked the link and it worked.
Good luck future TH-55 owners (I hope).
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 10:25 PM
Oh 319.99 with shipping cool!
depret
02-11-2004, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by ClieKun
Oh 319.99 with shipping cool!
YES SIR
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 10:32 PM
cool to say the least :D
depret
02-11-2004, 10:46 PM
$334.39, forgot the $14.40 tax. Anyway still a great deal. This is about what I paid for T665C in Oct 2002.
ClieKun
02-11-2004, 10:51 PM
strange a? how many times does this happen. But at times during the start of selling device prices are alway higher. BUT WOW! THATS GREAT!
Unregistered
02-11-2004, 11:36 PM
AMEX Return Protection is awesome! You can return an item worth up to $300 within 3 months, no questions asked!
Can you guess what I just returned?
... my obsolete TJ-35 :D
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 12:32 AM
oh god its back!
depret
02-12-2004, 05:43 AM
Originally posted by ClieKun
strange a? how many times does this happen. But at times during the start of selling device prices are alway higher. BUT WOW! THATS GREAT!
Your comment jogged my memory to something else Rodell mentioned.
"Watch the price, sometimes the price will go down. You can cancel the order and re-order at Best Buy at the new lower price."
He has seen it happen.
Guess what my bedtime story will be?
Off to work to pay for the thing.
sdkat2
02-12-2004, 06:40 AM
I must have put it in my basket 10 times but a little voice keeps saying "OS6 is just around the corner".
:rolleyes:
Unregistered
02-12-2004, 07:55 AM
me too.. there are too many signs that OS6 devices are imminent
what the heck if i waited that long with my current PDA, 3-5 more months won't hurt..
Well I finally caved in. I pre-ordered the TH-55 at BB. I'll miss my hacks. But the price was just too tempting for me...
BTW, I might be gone from here for a few days. I'm about to upgrade my hard drive, and last time I did it it took a while for me to get everything working again.
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by sdkat2
I must have put it in my basket 10 times but a little voice keeps saying "OS6 is just around the corner".
:rolleyes:
I keep elling myself the same thing WAIT WAIT WAIT!:D ;) :p
SamuraiCatJB
02-12-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by ClieKun
I keep elling myself the same thing WAIT WAIT WAIT!:D ;) :p
there is ALWAYS something around the corner.... sooner or later you just have to say... what the ... heck... and do it. :D
rldunn
02-12-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by sdkat2
I must have put it in my basket 10 times but a little voice keeps saying "OS6 is just around the corner".
:rolleyes: Yeah, I know. I thought that too. The advantage of the TH though is that all software will work on it since OS5 has been out so long. With the OS6 devices, there will be a lag while programs catch up. By the time they do, maybe it will be time to replace the TH :)
jumpyg
02-12-2004, 09:18 AM
I couldn't agree more Samurai!
I have a very old S320.
I'm going from 8MB RAM to 32MB RAM
Hi-Res B/W to Hi-Res+ Color
No camera to camera
OS4 to OS5
No wireless to WiFi
For me it's a no-brainer. If you have a more recent Clie, I can see being more patient.
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
there is ALWAYS something around the corner.... sooner or later you just have to say... what the ... heck... and do it. :D
I know.....But I sitting still until that day arrives.
joejoe
02-12-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by rldunn
Yeah, I know. I thought that too. The advantage of the TH though is that all software will work on it since OS5 has been out so long. With the OS6 devices, there will be a lag while programs catch up. By the time they do, maybe it will be time to replace the TH :)
Totally agree.
Plus, as importantly, prices for Cobalt devices will have come down. Win, win as I see it from my personal perspective & preferences. :)
LanMan
02-12-2004, 09:22 AM
Is the $320 only a "pre-order" price? Do you all think that BB will continue to sell the TH55 at that price, or jump it up to $400 when it's released/shipping? I have reasons to hold off buying, but I really don't want to miss that price.
SamuraiCatJB
02-12-2004, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by rldunn
Yeah, I know. I thought that too. The advantage of the TH though is that all software will work on it since OS5 has been out so long. With the OS6 devices, there will be a lag while programs catch up. By the time they do, maybe it will be time to replace the TH :)
I've decided I am on the two year, stable plan.... I got NR before OS 5 release, and all the subsequent issues with it, now 6 is coming out and 5.xx is stable.... :) of course it is just an excuse for other behaviors, but it sounds better than "I just freaking want a new clie!" :D
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 09:25 AM
Sure! because the newer device are sure to be released a little later on .
xynos
02-12-2004, 09:33 AM
I always tell myself, that this PDA is going to last me for 2 years. But the next thing I know, I reach for my credit card and get the latest and greatest :D
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 09:41 AM
Well I have a trick! MY WIFE she keeps me from adding to my collection of junk! But really i like havimg a pda lasting me 3 years. thts all then I upgreade
SamuraiCatJB
02-12-2004, 09:43 AM
good luck! tell her she is lucky that you are waiting 3 years, most of us are switching at 1 and 2. :D
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 09:44 AM
Well she is a pretty good chick about it. She knows I waited threes years..........she wants me to buy a new one.
Unregistered
02-12-2004, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
And I used my Amex card for double the manufacturers warrenty and extended return policies too. :) had to call, but I joined the pre-order crowd.
I already placed the pre-order the very 1st day available at BB, but the benefits from Amex card are very attractive. Can anyone tell me what exactly the Amex card is or any Amex card will work the same?
I placed it over the phone, tried to choose store pick-up but couldn't 'cause won't be available in stores. I called one of the stores and they also told me the same thing, but it can be returned in stores.
FYI - For those who have BB gift cards & Reward Zone cards, you can bring the PDA to the store, return it and repurchase at the same price using your gift cards & Reward Zone. I'm going to do it and hopefully they will do whey they said...
ClieMan
02-12-2004, 09:59 AM
I think I will just go ahead and order it, If I change my mind, Best Buy will give me a 100% refund. Opportunity only knocks once.!!
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 10:00 AM
ok.............................
sdkat2
02-12-2004, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
good luck! tell her she is lucky that you are waiting 3 years, most of us are switching at 1 and 2. :D
And therein lies part of my problem. I'd been waiting and hanging on to my NR70V when the OD T3 "sale" came my way in January. I'd waited a long time for a t-style Sony 320 x 480 with VG. The new TH is it, but I've got a 1.5 month old Tungsten now which is also a wonderful machine. :) :confused:
xynos
02-12-2004, 10:04 AM
I too have the T3. First few days were ok, but after a while, the slider gets on the way pretty quickly. Look for my T3 on ebay soon!
rldunn
02-12-2004, 10:10 AM
What's this that I'm seeing on here? PDAs lasting 2 and even 3 years!! Wow, that's amazing. Maybe I'll have to try that sometime and see how that works :)
Seriously, I got a Palm IIIe in June 2000, Clie S300 in January 2001, Clie S320 in June 2001, Clie N610 in September 2001, Clie NR70V in June 2002, Clie NX70V in January 2003, and Clie NX80V in September 2003, and finally another NX80V in November 2003. So I've yet to hit the 1-year mark. At least all the devices since the NR have been BB warranty replacements (for real problems). But I honestly would like to make one last for at least a year one of these times!!
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 10:11 AM
I need to get this new pda PDQ before the baby arrives. Because after........forget it.
SamuraiCatJB
02-12-2004, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by rldunn
What's this that I'm seeing on here? PDAs lasting 2 and even 3 years!! Wow, that's amazing. Maybe I'll have to try that sometime and see how that works :)
Seriously, I got a Palm IIIe in June 2000, Clie S300 in January 2001, Clie S320 in June 2001, Clie N610 in September 2001, Clie NR70V in June 2002, Clie NX70V in January 2003, and Clie NX80V in September 2003, and finally another NX80V in November 2003. So I've yet to hit the 1-year mark. At least all the devices since the NR have been BB warranty replacements (for real problems). But I honestly would like to make one last for at least a year one of these times!!
and you are still married!!!!????!!!! you must have married a saint (you can tell her that too).
Just pre-ordered. My NX70V in a Bellagio leather case will go to Ebay's bidders once the TH55 comes!
Cheers!
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 07:55 PM
Well not everyone can spend that type of money, or want to spend that much for PDA during hat short period of time. And your still married? Well These are not toys to me, they are not toys. But devices that makes my life easier to seal with.
xynos
02-12-2004, 07:58 PM
dude, whoever got the most toys wins! :D
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 08:19 PM
oh i guess that rights..Some people have money to burn so hey let them.
xynos
02-12-2004, 08:21 PM
well, let's see.. when i get my paycheque, my wife gets them first, then gives me money if i need it.. if not, then i won't get any money.. if you put it that way, i'm broke!
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 08:24 PM
hahahah oh wow i know that feeling! :) packet book empty due to the wife factor :(
xynos
02-12-2004, 08:25 PM
you and me both! the advantage of being married :D
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 08:29 PM
oh sure :D then i hear some say I owned 25 differner devices in 2 years. Well what does that suppose to make me feel? Well I don`t want to be them, i happy just have my one pda.
xynos
02-12-2004, 08:33 PM
well hey, you've got the top of the line PDA (for now). Be happy that you have someone you love, unlike others! ;)
T1000X
02-12-2004, 08:54 PM
So tempting to pre-order, but before I can get any new PDA I have to do my taxes to see if I owe Uncle Sam or Cousin Zonie (State of Arizona) any taxes. I also have to get new shoes too.
xynos
02-12-2004, 08:55 PM
Oh god, please don't remind me of taxes..
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 09:08 PM
taxes.its that time of the year again.........
xynos
02-12-2004, 09:09 PM
weather is cold, snowy and miserable. Taxes makes it so much better! :(
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 09:12 PM
oh yes........and I like going to the doctor :D
xynos
02-12-2004, 09:15 PM
Personally, I prefer the dentist :D
ClieKun
02-12-2004, 09:18 PM
oh yea........well then its like buy a sony device........You know you have to go back even if you don`t want to.
LanMan
02-13-2004, 08:48 AM
Come on everyone. Help me out here. I need to know if you think that BB will leave the TH55 price @$320 or raise the price to $400?
ClieKun
02-13-2004, 08:56 AM
it will not go 400.oo again. its too stupid if they did.
jumpyg
02-13-2004, 09:03 AM
Come on everyone. Help me out here. I need to know if you think that BB will leave the TH55 price @$320 or raise the price to $400?
Considering that most other outlets price the TH-55 at around $400, I will bet that BB raises the price. However, it's been $319 for several days now, so I suppose that lessens the chance it's an error. Think about it this way, though--the TH-55 is clearly superior to the TJ-37, but costs just $20 more on BB's Web site. Something is not right with that.
Why not pre-order it and take the plunge? BB lets you return it to any of their stores within 14 days, with no restocking fee. If you don't like it, you return it for a full refund.
I'm usually the last one to order something sight unseen, but I don't see any risk. I'll have 14 days to run the TH-55 through a torture test. If it fails, bye bye Th-55.
ClieKun
02-13-2004, 09:04 AM
a? oh well we will see in the near future :o
rldunn
02-13-2004, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
and you are still married!!!!????!!!! you must have married a saint (you can tell her that too). :) I'll definitely pass that along.
However, it's not as bad as it first seems. My S300 had a broken screen, so I had to replace it with the S320. Then, I wanted the a new high-res color Clie and got the N610, but I gave the S320 to my wife, who needed a new one anyway. The NR was for my 30th BD, and all the ones since have been warranty replacements, so no cost to me. So, it's still been extreme, but not WAY out there :)
Griff
02-13-2004, 11:07 AM
Am I lucky? I've never had any of my 3 PalmOS devices actually break on me requiring repair or replacement. I've had each device for at least 2 years and nothing bad has happened. In fact I'm trying to figure out if my NR70 will break eventually so I can get it swapped for an OS6 device this time next year.
What have you done/had happen to get that many replacements?
Unregistered
02-13-2004, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by jumpyg
Why not pre-order it and take the plunge? BB lets you return it to any of their stores within 14 days, with no restocking fee. If you don't like it, you return it for a full refund.
I'm usually the last one to order something sight unseen, but I don't see any risk. I'll have 14 days to run the TH-55 through a torture test. If it fails, bye bye Th-55.
Don't you have to pay the stocking fee if you open the item?
darkStar
02-13-2004, 11:28 AM
Yes - BB has a restocking fee if you open the box
SamuraiCatJB
02-13-2004, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Griff
Am I lucky? I've never had any of my 3 PalmOS devices actually break on me requiring repair or replacement. I've had each device for at least 2 years and nothing bad has happened. In fact I'm trying to figure out if my NR70 will break eventually so I can get it swapped for an OS6 device this time next year.
What have you done/had happen to get that many replacements?
well, mine have worn down as fast as I have gone past their abilities.... My PalmIIIxe was bought new, when ever that was released, also a pre-order. It got dropped a lot, but it didn't start having problems until I started overloading it and having to choose what to load and what not to, deleting stuff, reinstalling... then the CPU started resetting on its own, batteries would sometimes just quit and have to be taken out and put back in.... it had just completely died when I saved up the money for an NR. Now, I am using zlauncher to store executables on MS and swap stuff on and off, careful to make sure those syncable items are all in memory to sync to. And it too is misbehaving, also battery issues, and occasional resets. Occurances are increasing.... :)
I figure psychically I am bombarding it with bad vibes to kill it to give me an excuse to get a new one. ;) :D
jumpyg
02-13-2004, 11:46 AM
I emailed Best Buy about two days ago about their return policy. This is what they sent me:
We are happy to explain our return policy. You have 14 days to return your PDA. You have two options.
1. RETURN TO A STORE: Did you know that you can avoid shipping charges and expedite the credit to your account by returning your online orders to your local Best Buy store? It's easy. Just take your return with the receipt and your state-issued ID to any Best Buy store, and they will be happy to process your return.
OR
2. RETURN BY MAIL: You can ship the item(s) to:
BestBuy.com Return Center
14405 County Road 212
Findlay, OH 45840
* Please include all original packing materials, manuals, and accessories with the product to avoid any additional fees.
* Please include the return label (which was included in the original shipment) with your return and tell us why you're returning the product. We recommend that you ship the items by UPS or insured parcel post for proof of delivery. We also recommend using the original shipping carton and packing materials to protect the product.
* Freight charges will apply to this type of return. However, you will be credited all reasonable and customary freight charges (relevant to that item) if you received a damaged, defective or incorrect product. Please include the postal receipt in your return package so we know how much to reimburse you.
* We will do our best to process the return quickly. Please allow 14-21 days. Refunds will be credited to the original purchasing credit card account number.
BestBuy.com and Best Buy does charge a fee for merchandise returned without all of its original package contents, or for one of the following reasons:
1) If the returned merchandise is damaged, many manufacturers will not accept returns for full credit without the box, packing materials and original accessories.
2) If a non-defective notebook computer, radar detector or camcorder is returned or exchanged we charge a 15% restocking fee, unless the box was never opened.
Note the last paragraph. It says that opened notebooks, radar detectors, and camcorders are subject to the restocking fee. There is no mention of PDAs, and I asked specifically about PDAs.
Darkstar: Where do you get the idea there is a restocking fee?
darkStar
02-13-2004, 11:57 AM
I've bought several clie's at BB ( last time a year ago ) in the SoCal area. They always gave me a notice (which I had to sign) that there was a 15% open box return fee. Maybe this is only true in SoCal, maybe the policy has changed. I ordered one of these TH55 from BB but I will check at the nearby store if I can open it and return it.
contempt
02-13-2004, 12:13 PM
Concerning taxes, I always expense my PDA and computer purchases, since realistically you use them for work. You'll have to itemize your return though.
So with that analogy and pattern, you're allowed a new PDA and a new computer every year to expense. Not to mention you should take one college class a year as well. I've been doing that with my taxes for the past five years.
jumpyg
02-13-2004, 12:15 PM
I've bought several clie's at BB ( last time a year ago ) in the SoCal area. They always gave me a notice (which I had to sign) that there was a 15% open box return fee. Maybe this is only true in SoCal, maybe the policy has changed. I ordered one of these TH55 from BB but I will check at the nearby store if I can open it and return it.
That's good to know, maybe I'll do the same thing. Anybody else get charged the 15%? It's weird because the customer service person obviously sent me a canned response. She didn't include any caveat, such as "This is only true in Michigan stores."
rldunn
02-13-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Griff
Am I lucky? I've never had any of my 3 PalmOS devices actually break on me requiring repair or replacement. I've had each device for at least 2 years and nothing bad has happened. In fact I'm trying to figure out if my NR70 will break eventually so I can get it swapped for an OS6 device this time next year.
What have you done/had happen to get that many replacements? My first two replacements were for the batteries. They were only holding a charge about half as long or less as when they were brand new. So, I took it in, explained that to them, and they exchanged them. The third exchange (which was from one NX80 to another) was because something was strange about the connection, so that when you put it in the cradle or used the charge cable, most of the time it wouldn't be properly connected. I took my cradle in and demonstrated it, and they gave me a new one.
I had actually never gotten a replacement plan before, but I was really concerned about the number of moving parts on the NR, so I decided to go for it. I would say it was a good investment for $70!!
Miss Clie
02-13-2004, 12:34 PM
Well, I just pre-ordered at BB - $335.99 after $16 tax and free ground shipping. I had to sit down and stare at my credit card and think about my reasons first, so I didn't have remorse later on.
Here are my thoughts...
1) I've already budgeted this year for a new PDA, preferably Clie, since I have MSticks already (2x128). I'm upgrading from an N760C, so my accessories (keyboard, cradle) are going to be useless no matter what I go to next. I don't want to jump to a OS6, because of the lag period while software and hardware plays catch-up, as well as the likely astronomical prices of new OS6 models when they hit the shelves. This will likely be the last OS5 model.
2) This model fits my needs in very single way (no built-in keyboard, no flip-flop, nice size, full screen, camera, etc), except for BT. In order for me to get BT, I'd have to pay over $250 US more for a Euro model, plus shipping. I can't justify that no matter how I look at it. In addition, were I to have BT, I'd then feel compelled to spend more on a cheap dial-up plan ($5/mo) and the excess that Cingular would charge me for moving data over their lines (prob $5/mo). That would be another $120/yr min that I would end up spending when I didn't *really* need to.
3) My current Clie is dying. The bottom of the glass in the graffiti area is starting to lift, it clicks when I write, and I have to write a lot more slowly in order for it to parse my lettering. It's becoming a real pain, and I can see the decline in accuracy over the past couple of months.
4) I'm protected; not only will I likely get to fiddle with it in real life before it arrives (and thus ensures my being able to return it unopened if I need to), but I'm buying it on AMEX, so if in 90 days something really really special comes out, I can return it for $300 cash and eat the extra $36 for 3 mos rent. I'll also be in Amsterdam before the 90 days passes, so if I touch the BT model and it instantly conveys magical powers to me which compel me to buy it, I can always return my US model when I get back home.
5) I can justify just about anything. :p
So, now I'm sitting and waiting impatiently for my new toy. Oh, did I say toy? I meant new life-enhancing piece of equipment. Of course.
LanMan
02-13-2004, 01:06 PM
Let me ask. When you all are trading/upgrading your faulty units do they want things like CD/cradle/charger back? Or do you end-up with extra accessories?
parada
02-13-2004, 02:45 PM
pre-ordered today from bestbuy for $355 including nextday shipping. they gave me the estimated arrival date arround 2/17-2/18. From the confirmation mail I got they ask me to hold till they send me a store-pickup notification mail before going to the store. So that means the units will available in store soon? But I'm not sure the price in store will be the same or will be rises to $400. I guess I can get this unit arround the same time as you buy from sonystyle?
jumpyg
02-13-2004, 02:55 PM
Darkstar--I emailed Best Buy again to confirm that the restocking fee does not apply to PDAs, as their previous email to me implied.
Unfortunately, they emailed me back essentially the same thing as before, but now PDAs are added to the list:
We apologize for the confusion.
BestBuy.com and Best Buy does charge a fee for merchandise returned without all of its original package contents, or for one of the following reasons:
1) If the returned merchandise is damaged, many manufacturers will not accept returns for full credit without the box, packing materials and original accessories.
2) If a non-defective notebook computer, radar detector PDA or camcorder is returned or exchanged we charge a 15% restocking fee, unless the box was never opened.
So there IS a restocking fee of 15% for opened PDAs. I find it strange that they didn't include it in their first email. So I guess if you want to try it out before committing, you better go to the store and play with it first.
rldunn
02-13-2004, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by LanMan
Let me ask. When you all are trading/upgrading your faulty units do they want things like CD/cradle/charger back? Or do you end-up with extra accessories? They want everything back. The last one I returned, they went over it with a fine-toothed comb to make sure everything was in the box. The saleswoman didn't know what was supposed to be in it, so she asked several others that were there. Thankfully, everything really was in it.
Unregistered
02-13-2004, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by parada
..$355 including nextday shipping. they gave me the estimated arrival date arround 2/17-2/18.
Don't hold your breath. I think they gave you an ETA based simply on the overnight delivery as if it were in stock.
rldunn
02-13-2004, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
Don't hold your breath. I think they gave you an ETA based simply on the overnight delivery as if it were in stock. I just went and checked my order that I made earlier this week, and it says the release date is 3/04.
ClieKun
02-13-2004, 03:52 PM
its getting pushed back daily now :(
rldunn
02-13-2004, 03:53 PM
I don't know, that's consistent with what their website said when I ordered it as well.
rldunn
02-13-2004, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by LanMan
Come on everyone. Help me out here. I need to know if you think that BB will leave the TH55 price @$320 or raise the price to $400? Not sure about this, but I just went to the BB website to see if it had the same information on availability, and the TH is now listed as 'Sold Out'. Doesn't mean that the price won't remain the same when they get more to sell, but definitely interesting. Glad I got in early :)
ClieKun
02-13-2004, 03:56 PM
What i should have said the release dates are different between shops. its not as early as some thought it might be.
rldunn
02-13-2004, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by jumpyg
So there IS a restocking fee of 15% for opened PDAs. I find it strange that they didn't include it in their first email. So I guess if you want to try it out before committing, you better go to the store and play with it first. I just went to their website (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12098&entryURLType=&categoryId=cat10004&type=page&entryURLID=&contentId=1043363607061)to check this out, and it says:What is your return policy?
Our online return policy may vary slightly from store policies. Best Buy stores will fully refund most items within 30 days of receipt.
14 days from the date merchandise was received, refunds are available on:
Computers
Monitors
Printers
Notebook Computers
Camcorders
Digital Cameras
Radar Detectors
A 15% restocking fee will be charged on returns or exchanges of any opened notebook computer, camcorder, digital camera or radar detector, unless defective.Previously, PDAs have always been excluded from the restocking fee, so it will be interesting to find out if this policy has changed. Especially since I'm unsure about whether to keep the TH or keep my NX80, and I would like to hold the unit and try out the Clie Organizer before having to decide.
I think the deciding factor on whether the 15% restocking fee applies is going to be what is printed on the receipt that comes with it. I'll definitely be looking that over before opening the box.
rldunn
02-13-2004, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by ClieKun
What i should have said the release dates are different between shops. its not as early as some thought it might be. I think it's a big guess right now, which isn't that surprising for pre-orders. It will be interesting to see which companies ship them first. Hopefully it's BB :)
jumpyg
02-13-2004, 04:03 PM
Previously, PDAs have always been excluded from the restocking fee, so it will be interesting to find out if this policy has changed.
I agree, it's interesting. In fact, it looks like the customer service people sent me the same note, only the second one differs in this line:
2) If a non-defective notebook computer, radar detector PDA or camcorder is returned or exchanged we charge a 15% restocking fee, unless the box was never opened.
Note that they didn't even put a comma after "detector"--it's not even proofread. I wonder if I printed out the first email they sent me (that didn't include PDAs in the restocking fee class) and took it with me to the store what they would say.
ClieKun
02-13-2004, 04:05 PM
well rid, as long as the TH 55 is not liked the TJ 35 series your safe :D
parada
02-13-2004, 05:06 PM
I ordered mine like an hour ago and now it says it's sold out on bb's web site, am I that lucky guy to probably got the last one???
LeggNet
02-13-2004, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by parada
I ordered mine like an hour ago and now it says it's sold out on bb's web site, am I that lucky guy to probably got the last one???
Right now it doesn't even exist on the BB website.... hmmmm...
Cheers, Rich
jumpyg
02-13-2004, 07:03 PM
It's been posted before, but since the Best Buy deal is gone, it's worth restating.
eCost.com has the TH55 for $329.00, with free shipping, and no tax. This is actually a better deal than the Best Buy deal in cases where you'd have to pay $20 in sales tax to Best Buy.
The price is listed as $399.00, but it's a "shopping cart special," meaning it's reduced $70 when you add it to your cart. That's the best current deal out there, I think.
Here's the link:
http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?dpno=387195
leggnet
02-13-2004, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by LeggNet
Right now it doesn't even exist on the BB website.... hmmmm...
Cheers, Rich
Spoke with a rep on BB's 800 #, she said that the low price was most likely an error and that it was my "lucky day" since they will definately honor it. :)
Cheers, Rich
jumpyg
02-13-2004, 07:39 PM
Well, congrats then. Several of us were lucky it appears. The funny thing is that it was on their web site for 4 days!
What about the eCost price? Is that an error, too? They will probably get flooded now that the Best Buy connection has been shut down.
ClieKun
02-13-2004, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by LeggNet
Right now it doesn't even exist on the BB website.... hmmmm...
Cheers, Rich :eek: :confused:
SamuraiCatJB
02-13-2004, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by LeggNet
Right now it doesn't even exist on the BB website.... hmmmm...
Cheers, Rich
25 BB employees disappear to Mexico, news at 11. :p
ClieKun
02-13-2004, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
25 BB employees disappear to Mexico, news at 11. :p
Wow..........you mean they cross the wrong direction :D
Unregistered
02-13-2004, 10:13 PM
is the ecost price also wromg... has anyone ordered successfully from ecost
sebring
02-13-2004, 10:55 PM
Guess I shouldn't have ordered 50 of them to sell on eBay.:D
Unregistered
02-13-2004, 11:04 PM
I don't see the item anymore. I guess I missed the deal. BB might not honor that price and instead cancel the order and give you some credit. That's what happened to me when I was quoted a wrong price. Good luck.
depret
02-14-2004, 05:24 AM
Originally posted by Unregistered
I don't see the item anymore. I guess I missed the deal. BB might not honor that price and instead cancel the order and give you some credit. That's what happened to me when I was quoted a wrong price. Good luck.
quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by krypticide
Too bad you missed the bestbuy.com price mistake. They were pre-ordering for $320 at first, but now it's gone from their website.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
NOPE! It is still available at $320. Google search with the following words TH55 PDA price.
Click the dealtime links.
www.dealtime.com/xPC-Sony_Clie_PEG_TH55 - 36k - Cached - Similar pages
I thought the same thing but they said it would be honored.
Or just call "1-888-237-8289". If you want one it is worth a shot.
Unregistered
02-14-2004, 05:32 AM
Preordered mine on he 12th. If you and look again at the BestBuy website you will find that it is no longer there. I'm thinking they screwed up and that I got a sweet deal. Either way I like it.
depret
02-14-2004, 05:39 AM
Sorry for the miss information.
Man, they should update the dealtime website.
SamuraiCatJB
02-14-2004, 06:51 AM
Originally posted by Unregistered
I don't see the item anymore. I guess I missed the deal. BB might not honor that price and instead cancel the order and give you some credit. That's what happened to me when I was quoted a wrong price. Good luck.
unless it is a misprint they will honor the price. Some companies will sell pre-orders near cost to get a "market profile" to determine how much they can rely on selling the item.
ClieKun
02-14-2004, 08:53 AM
Originally posted by SamuraiCatJB
unless it is a misprint they will honor the price. Some companies will sell pre-orders near cost to get a "market profile" to determine how much they can rely on selling the item.
GoodGuys where the best at matching and beating prices. But later they got in to financial problem and was later bought buy a rival company. Now they are not as good since then.
krypticide
02-14-2004, 09:03 AM
I love doing my taxes, because I always get a return on it. 8-)
clieuser
02-14-2004, 10:23 AM
I work at Bestbuy, the retail system in the store says the Clie will only be available on BestBuy.com. It was retailed at $319.99.
I don't think the Clie will be available at the stores, if it is then it will only be in the larger stores that have the self space for it. The online store carries the entire selection of Bestbuy's items while the stores only carry a selected few due to shelf space.
jumpyg
02-14-2004, 10:27 AM
I work at Bestbuy, the retail system in the store says the Clie will only be available on BestBuy.com. It was retailed at $319.99.
Can you comment (or speculate) on why the TH is gone from the BB Web site?
It will be interesting to see if the $319.00 price is actually honored for those who pre-ordered, or if the orders will be cancelled as mentioned already.
rldunn
02-14-2004, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Sid
It will be interesting to see if the $319.00 price is actually honored for those who pre-ordered, or if the orders will be cancelled as mentioned already. Yeah, as one who pre-ordered, I'm curious about that as well. I printed off their Pre-order FAQ last night just so I have some documentation backing me up if they try to cancel on me.
LeggNet
02-14-2004, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by rldunn
Yeah, as one who pre-ordered, I'm curious about that as well. I printed off their Pre-order FAQ last night just so I have some documentation backing me up if they try to cancel on me.
Do you have a link to the Pre-Order FAQ you read. I searched their help section but the links that came up were blank.
Somewhat related, found this bit of info on their site:
In general, you should know that prices and availability are subject to change without notice. Errors will be corrected where discovered. Best Buy reserves the right to revoke any stated offer and to correct any errors, inaccuracies or omissions, including after an order has been submitted, whether or not the order has been confirmed and your credit card charged. If your credit card has already been charged for the purchase and your order is canceled, BestBuy.com will issue a credit to your credit card account in the amount of the charge. Individual bank policies will dictate when this amount is credited to your account.
(emphasis added)
Hmmmm.........
Rich
jumpyg
02-14-2004, 02:49 PM
Do you have a link to the Pre-Order FAQ you read.
Go to bestbuy.com and enter "pre-order" into the search field and the faqs will come up.
Here is the pertinent part of the FAQ:
Q: Can you ensure the price listed at the time the pre-order is placed will remain the same?
A: Yes and no. When a price is assigned to a pre-ordered item, we are reasonably certain it will remain at that price. However, from time to time ¿ given how far in advance we make items available to our customers ¿ a price change will occur. If this happens, you will always receive the lower of the two prices. For example, if you order an item for $49.99 and the pre-order price is later dropped to $39.99, you will be charged only $39.99. If you ordered the item at $49.99 and the price rises to $59.99, you still pay only $49.99. When you place a pre-order, you are assured our lowest pre-release price.
Now, the FAQ and the section you just quoted seem to contradict each other. The FAQ has no caveats at all.
I guess we should find out ASAP whether or not Best Buy will honor these orders. If not, we can always try the eCost.com offer. Needless to say, I won't be too happy if Best Buy cancels my order. They had the page up for four days, so they must have gotten dozens or hundreds of orders.
contempt
02-14-2004, 05:03 PM
Alright, my order that I placed on Thursday just came back as canceled! Haven't called them yet, but definitely will. Anyone else have their orders canceled???
Unregistered
02-14-2004, 05:13 PM
can you give us more info...
when did you order???
Did you get a confirmation email???
parada
02-14-2004, 06:05 PM
I ordered mine on Friday afternoon and received an mail from BB this morning says my itme is backordered since I required nextday shipping and the est. arrivel date was 18th as in their first mail. And they said they will ship my order to me on 4/3. No words about cancelling the order yet ...
We will see what's gonna happen on Monday.
LeggNet
02-14-2004, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by contempt
Alright, my order that I placed on Thursday just came back as canceled! Haven't called them yet, but definitely will. Anyone else have their orders canceled???
Mine's still there (as of Saturday afternoon).... :)
Cheers, Rich
--quote--
Order Date: 02/11/04
1 Sony-CLIÉ Personal Entertainment Organizer-PEG-TH55
Ship to: 13685 BUCKBOARD WAY...
$319.99
$4.62
$21.42
$346.03
Status: 1 item(s) preordered, release date is 03/04/04.
Subtotal: $346.03
Digital Dollars & Credits: None
Order Total: $346.03
Credit Card Used
contempt
02-14-2004, 07:49 PM
Yes, I did receive a confirmation email with the 3/4 delivery date. (I ordered mine on 2/12 in the evening btw). Then after reading some other post that another poster's order was canceled I checked mine and yup, it showed up canceled. Also received an email stating it was canceled today.
Well, if they want to be like that, so be it. I followed another thread that had eCost offering it for $329, no tax. So I just placed an order at eCost and got it for $11 cheaper than the BB price with next day shipping. So there BB.com. If you don't want my business...
rldunn
02-14-2004, 08:06 PM
As of 9pm Sat night, mine says the same thing as LeggNet (but with my address :)) And I haven't received any emails from them.
BestBuy is known for setting up very low price and after lots of people referring to their BestBuy names then bestbuy will simply cancel all the very low price items.
There is no way any one of you will get the TH55 at $319.99 from BestBuy.
You can read BestBuy customer reviews just by doing a internet search on their store ratings.
as i said before BestBuy is known for doing this kind of stuffs from DVD Players to TV's.
ClieKun
02-14-2004, 11:52 PM
ok then others that have preordered and had for them and are waiting for the devices will not get them? They did their devices or gets sued.
So far mine still says it will be delivered to my home with released date of 03/04/04 as of this Sunday morning.
Perhaps, as more demands than supplies occur, questionable preorders will be dropped to meet those legitimate ones as a way of minimizing business risks.
ClieKun
02-15-2004, 06:16 AM
you paid 319.99?
Yes + $20 tax + free shipping.
ClieKun
02-15-2004, 06:20 AM
thats great.......um so for some thats says they never ship at that prices are really going to look :p :D
Have fun with it.
This was one of those deals you don't want to miss. So you need to be dang sure you do it correctly.
If it will eventually cost $319.99 when it hits the retail stores, at least I'll get it at the earliest date and free delivery to my home. I hate driving for an hour to the nearest electronic store, waiting in line to buy this hot potato in this cold weather, discovering the last one is sold out to the guy in front of me, and having to come back again later. Just image, the wasted time, frustration, and wasted gas cost that I will have to bear for nothing. In the end I may have to wait for another week or more.
ClieKun
02-15-2004, 07:04 AM
The TH 55 will have a 330 to 319 price tag after awhile. Specially with the ebay sellers dropping prices rock bottom. The release of the new devices can cause a stable price that low for the TH 55.
peakpro
02-15-2004, 07:07 AM
Unless you wait 3 months...then you can get it for $199, just before a new model is rolled out....
ClieKun
02-15-2004, 07:10 AM
hehehehehe wow i even buy one at that price.ehheheheh
After using N760C for 2.5 years, I'll wait for this no more, but don't want to spend $400 for few days sooner by ordering through Sony Style either. I'm willing to wait a week for $80 less.
ClieKun
02-15-2004, 07:15 AM
ugh.i know the feeling. I really in need for a new device. But I going to wait until the OS 6 arrives. I can`t deal with being between os 5 and os 6.
krypticide
02-15-2004, 07:33 AM
Well, I called Best Buy customer service to check that everything was fine. At least to the guy on the phone, it looked okay. I guess we'll see how it goes.
PCMaven
02-15-2004, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by DanT
This was one of those deals you don't want to miss. So you need to be dang sure you do it correctly.
If it will eventually cost $319.99 when it hits the retail stores, at least I'll get it at the earliest date and free delivery to my home. I hate driving for an hour to the nearest electronic store, waiting in line to buy this hot potato in this cold weather, discovering the last one is sold out to the guy in front of me, and having to come back again later. Just image, the wasted time, frustration, and wasted gas cost that I will have to bear for nothing. In the end I may have to wait for another week or more. From what I've heard there's a possibility that many handhelds won't be available in BestBuy stores any more. Apparently certain items are only going to be available for ordering online.
ClieKun
02-15-2004, 08:14 AM
ok..........but thats another topic. This is the refering to those who have ordered it.
That is why I preordered it online. It may not be in BestBuy store, but there will be plenty other electronic stores in Houston like Circuit City, CompUSA, etc., within 5-mile radius of BestBuy. I'm sure the price will be competitive then. If the demands are as high as I've read here, the price will be high for awhile. It is a simple law of economics and early birds get all the worms.
ClieKun
02-15-2004, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by DanT
That is why I preordered it online. It may not be in BestBuy store, but there will be plenty other electronic stores in Houston like Circuit City, CompUSA, etc., within 5-mile radius of BestBuy. I'm sure the price will be competitive then. If the demands are as high as I've read here, the price will be high for awhile. It is a simple law of economics and early birds get all the worms.
:D The early Geeks get the gets the clies" :D
I like that better.:)
PCMaven
02-15-2004, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by DanT
That is why I preordered it online. It may not be in BestBuy store, but there will be plenty other electronic stores in Houston like Circuit City, CompUSA, etc., within 5-mile radius of BestBuy. I'm sure the price will be competitive then. If the demands are as high as I've read here, the price will be high for awhile. It is a simple law of economics and early birds get all the worms. I preordered it online at BB as well...I keep thinking though that this is a special promotion since it's a preorder. I can't imagine $319 being the price in stores when Sony will be selling the TH55 for list price...Who would buy it from Sony then?
"Banana juice" (as ClieKun calls it) guys that like to spend $80 extra money for a week early delivery.
ClieKun
02-15-2004, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by DanT
"Banana juice" (as ClieKun calls it) guys that like to spend $80 extra money for a week early delivery.
HEHHEHE:D oh godish that was funny!
Well I don`t think people will either.
Griff
02-15-2004, 10:41 AM
I checked with my local Best Buy the other day (West Oaks in case your wondering DanT) and they said they will be carrying only a couple models from Palm and a couple from PPC vendors. They will carry an expanded assortment at .com and will be able to special order them.
I suspect the TH-55 pre-order pricing was meant as a way to get a bunch of orders in the door...volume vs. price. I'd bet they had a limited number (2500) that they planned to do for pre-order pricing and now that they've gotten orders to account for that quantity they've pulled the unit and will wait to release it when it become available.
When I checked my local CompUSA (Westheimer) they tried to get me to preorder it through them for $80 more so I could have peace of mind dealing with a real store instead of an Internet presence. LOL
PCMaven
02-15-2004, 10:48 AM
I will say that if I was going to spend $80 more (which I wouldn't) I would definitely buy it directly from Sony...At least there's a chance of getting the unit earlier...
Griff, that's where I hang out whenever I go to Houston. LOL.
Unregistered
02-15-2004, 01:50 PM
I preordered from Best Buy. I have a hunch that the low price for the unit is exactly because it will not be stocked in the retail stores so we are getting a traditional internet price. However, Sony probably has some rules about what kind of price can be displayed hence the automatic discount given at ecost.com. I'll bet that's why the unit isn't being sold at BB right no. The price is too low to be displayed.
I'm tempted to order at eCost also since they at least have a track record of selling things at internet prices. I don't know if I believe that Best Buy really knows what it is doing with this product online.
PCMaven
02-15-2004, 02:00 PM
I don't care if BestBuy knows what they're doing or not. They accepted my order for $319 and that's what I expect to pay. If they screwed up that's their problem.
I've never heard of eCost, how reputable is it?
Jack34
02-15-2004, 02:26 PM
Originally posted by Sid
I've never heard of eCost, how reputable is it?
they have more experience than BB selling online
Unregistered
02-15-2004, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by PCMaven
I don't care if BestBuy knows what they're doing or not. They accepted my order for $319 and that's what I expect to pay. If they screwed up that's their problem.
you mean $319 + taxes
PCMaven
02-15-2004, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Unregistered
you mean $319 + taxes
With Ecost they charge handling charges as well...I don't recall if shipping was free on the TH55 or not. I know I worked it out and BB came out very slightly cheaper for me.
rlc7254
02-15-2004, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by Sid
I've never heard of eCost, how reputable is it?
I purchased a 1gb MS Pro for $389 from them at 2:00pm one afternoon, paid $9.00 for overnight shipping, and had it the next day at 9:30am. My experience with them was very positive.
:D
PCMaven
02-15-2004, 04:11 PM
All of my dealings with ecost have been positive as well...I've ordered quite a few items from them with no problem. The only reason I went with BB for the TH55 was that it worked out slightly cheaper than ecost for me. My loyalty is influenced by my wallet...;)
contempt
02-15-2004, 04:17 PM
I've ordered maybe three items from ecost in the past two years, all perfect transactions. The fact that I saved $11 compared with BestBuy for the exact same thing makes it a great deal.
vBulletin v3.0.3, Copyright ©2000-2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.