TH55 vs. UX50

[DarkDynamo]

Considering that I'm still using a T665 and I want to upgrade, I'm debating whether to get one of these. Any Suggestions....?

[Cyker]

You and pretty much every T665 user (inc. me ;)) is currently agonising over this :D

[Unregistered]

Need keyboard for input, get the UX, don't need it, get the TH, that is about the only diffrence between the two.

[joejoe]

I would think it would primarily be an issue of budget since the UX costs so much more. After that hurdle, you'd have to decide if you wanted the keyboard & the other features which the UX has.

[Cyker]

Alternatively hold out to see if a better one comes :D

I'm torn between the compromises of the TH55 and that whole 'Ain't-broke-don't-fix-it' thing with my T665...

[jhintonh]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Need keyboard for input, get the UX, don't need it, get the TH, that is about the only diffrence between the two.

Good Evening-

There are numerous differences but the key factor is that the TH's screen real estate clobbers the UX's.

-Jhintonh

[joejoe]

Cyker,

To a certain extent, I'm with you. Not sure if the "next great thing" from either Palm or Sony will *exactly* match my wishes...or not...

[WWJD?]

One of the main issue that we should consider is that the Th55 for all its additional screen real estate can't do landscape mode, which means that when using netfront to browse, it will not be as nice as the UX browsing experience. However, thw UX does have an additional 16mb usable RAM memory (for a total of 32mb RAM)

[Jeffry]

landscape support?

[inomad]

get a th. The ux has some funny querks that made me take it back.

[WWJD?]

Originally posted by Jeffry
landscape support?

My mistake, It should have been no landscape mode rather than no portrait mode

[kjbad]

The TH has FOUR buttons, right?:) The UX has a keyboard and camera, but you'd better treat them both with kid gloves!

It's the accessories that will make or break the TH for me. One of the reasons I'm still holding onto my SJ33 is the game controller, keyboard, and removable camera.

[rlc7254]

Originally posted by jhintonh


Good Evening-

There are numerous differences but the key factor is that the TH's screen real estate clobbers the UX's.

-Jhintonh

 

With the UX50, you can take videos with the camera (@160x160 resolution), with the TH55 you can't.

 

 

[lostether]

Originally posted by jhintonh


Good Evening-

There are numerous differences but the key factor is that the TH's screen real estate clobbers the UX's.

-Jhintonh

A key factor for you maybe. I wouldn't trade the benefits of the UX50's compact size, landscape design, with its incredible keyboard, for a larger screen. Even if the TH55 could do landscape it would only be useful in viewing documents, certainly not creating them. I know, external keyboard, but I'm not willing to carry one around with me, if you are willing to transport that much bulk I would consider keeping your current PDA and getting a sub-notebook.

I don't want to end on the wrong note though. I'm saying you can't really compare the two devices. I think the TH55 is an awesome machine, and I would buy it over the T3 in a heartbeat.

[WWJD?]

As a UX50 owner, I can't see myself selling my UX50 to get the new Th55. I agree that the latter has a larger screen and more onboard memory but aside from these two things, it has no major advantages over the UX50 as it sports the same OS and the same CPU. The UX50 has WiFi AND Bluetooth and the keyboard in it makes it so much easier to surf the web. Both the Th55 and UX50 are well designed PDAs. If only the Th55 has an aluminum body and 64mb RAM and ROM and Bluetooth built in then I might seriously consider ditching my UX50 for it. So I guess it all boils down to personal taste and preference.

For users of older series Clies or Palm branded PDA though might find the TH55 (as is) a compelling buy. But as for me, I would wait for the OS6 units to come out since its just a few months from now before they come out.

Ah, the dilemma of a Gadget freak....hahahaha

[Ni+Mh]

I'd go for the TH55 personally, feels somewhat like the T665 plus the keyboard on the UX50 is well, I don't use keyboards. Plus the Th55's got a whopping 32MB usable, unlike the UX50 which only has 16MB

[WWJD?]

Memory on the UX is really not good, I can;t figure out why Sony would come out with a device with such a great design and features and yet just put in a measly 16mb memory?!!!

[Unregistered]

I was really looking forward to other Sony PDAs having the UX50's backup memory.

It would be nice to not have to worry so much if you thought your battery was going to die out...

Although, to be honest, I don't know how well that feature works with the UX50. I just assume it works fine.

Rolando

[WWJD?]

The backup memory works fine, in fact you can try it out as I did a couple times, I just went ot power saving mode and then did a hard reset and it works !!

[PEG UX-50]

The Memory back up is a great feature, really weird it is not in the TH55. That and no landscape is the only big negative things about,

Oh also no extra battery either which sucks :(

[killah fury]

No ones mentioned the much improved datebook yet... thats a good reason to choose the TH55 over the UX50...

[ClieKun]

Originally posted by Ni+Mh
I'd go for the TH55 personally, feels somewhat like the T665 plus the keyboard on the UX50 is well, I don't use keyboards. Plus the Th55's got a whopping 32MB usable, unlike the UX50 which only has 16MB

Well I think the TH 55 is not that great. I need a new PDa bad and this is not the answer to by problem. I going to wait for the next series to be released. This TH 55 is not that great go d no its not.

[jeebus]

Originally posted by WWJD?
Memory on the UX is really not good, I can;t figure out why Sony would come out with a device with such a great design and features and yet just put in a measly 16mb memory?!!!

Not to mention a ridiculously small and cramped screen.

[ClieKun]

The UX is not bad, some love it. It it had/has OS 6 on it i buy it.

[kjbad]

The UX is the first of a type, IMHO. There are people who really prefer the modified clamshell design to the typical form of PDAs. I don't think the TH55 is a UX-beater, though. It's basically got the Wi-fi built in and is trying to keep up with Palm's latest offerings.

[ClieKun]

TH 55 and the UX are not in the same field. it was not meant to be. Whoever started this thought process does not know a thing about pda devices. think everything else on the internet people ALWAYS compare stones to cookies.

[Unregistered]

I don't see why - People compare Pocket PCs and Palms all the time so why should Clie-Clie be any different?

Apples and Oranges both have their advantages and disadvantages :D

[winexprt]

Originally posted by Unregistered
I don't see why - People compare Pocket PCs and Palms all the time so why should Clie-Clie be any different?

Apples and Oranges both have their advantages and disadvantages :D

Not really an 'Apples & Oranges" comparison since they're both PDA's.

[spork27]

Apples & Oranges are both fruit.:p

This really isn't a comparison though. I think each does cater to a different audience. I truly would never want a UX, just don't like the design and although its small its not pocket shaped, too thick I think.

If the TH is about the size of my T615 its the perfect pocket size. I really like what I've read and seen of TH.

So I think I'm a good example that they cater to different audiences.

[ClieKun]

oh wow they are that different :D I think not........does the PDA ring a bell :o

[WWJD?]

Well, from what I read so far from numerous postings/ threads is that someone is bound to make a fortune importing and reselling European version of the TH55. Sony would do well to take note that people want both Bluetooth and WiFi
( at least, I do want both)

[ClieKun]

well some people well imprt european models just for the BT I guess..

[WWJD?]

Well, if I ever decides to get the Th55, I am gonna get myself an European version

[neil@domino.org]

In my view the issue is keyboard or no keyboard. Since I got my TG-50 last year I've never used my PDA so much. This is down to the keyboard. The TH looks lovely and the new apps look awesome, one hopes that these will run on the UX etc.

Neil.

[rened]

Two questions for you experts:


Will it be possible to use PalmOne IR-keyboard with the TH?

Will it be possible to use Webpro in Landscape mode just like on the T3?

[zer0]

yeah, i also might change my ux to the th55. my ux has been causing soo many problems, its not even worth it anymore.

[chickpea]

Hi all, this is all my first time here but long-time gadget freak. anyway i am a ux50 owner, but now i have both of these beautiful machines in front of me right now. The TH55 was a present...and it is REALLY AWESOME it turns out! First, it is simply beautiful from the shape, the color of the casing, the screen, the feel.... the size... I pride myself on carrying a very small purse with me usually as I hate the clutter of big ones, so size is an issue. I thought the TH55 would be or at least have the feel of being big and angular (like the TJ27 and TJ37) since it looks so rectangular in the pictures, the truth is is that it is SMALL surprisingly! I think the flip cover on it is AWESOME!!! Sony has such style... it is a very reflective, yet translucive beautiful thing to look at..fantastic! The case of the TH55 itself is really curvaceous and thin like a wafer, it is very nice to hold in the palm of my hand (it is skinnier than the wide ux50), especially since i have small hands. The screen on the TH55 is much more responsive than my ux50. (I would have to press down harder on ux50, whereas TH55 responds to just a touch!) Also, when I use the digital camera, the picture viewed on the screen is much more colorful and refined than the grainy and more washed out picture that I see on my ux50...funny i didn't think the camera to be that bad until I compared it side-by-side with the TH55. Anyway, the programs are very advanced and the newer Palm system is just a joy to use, compared with the older more barebones simpler system on the ux50. You know I really don't like the general style of the TJ's SJ's and TH's with the flat big screen PDA and prefer the clamshell because it sits up...but now i think I'm changing my mind. First the ux50 screen is small so it's nice to have it sit upright like a laptop for easier viewing. BUT the TH55's screen is so big (on this little thing) crisp and nice that I can view it at an angle while it lays flat on my desk...no complaints! One thing is that I never really cared for the keyboard, and also my hands and fingers are small so the big keys always felt and looked bulky to me. TH55 is actually winning me over on size because it's almost HALF the thickness of the ux50 when the ux50 is folded-up and tucked away. It's also less wide. Though the TH55 is about 3/4 inch longer than the ux50. It feels lighter than the ux50 by maybe 10 to 20% .. I don't know why the ux50 has a keychain hole because it's just way too big and heavy to hang from my keyring. The ux50 is nice with a unique clamshell, and super construction. I guess I am wowed by the newness of the TH55. I also expected it to be as squarish, angular, and thick as the TJ27 or TJ37 (what my friend had owned). No way, it's a thin curvaceous wafer that is somehow rectangular like the TJ's . I don't know how Sony turns electronics into works-of-art... They are great. Anyway, that's my initial impression after just 1 hour of play. I still love them both for what they are (just like one's kids), but the TH55 is just quite a surprise...as I usually discriminate against those flat rectangle PDA's. I will get back to you later for a more detailed comparison. cheers :)

[LupeValenz]

WAH!! The UX's keyboard keys felt BIG and BULKY to you?/!! Geez, must have fingers size of toothpicks!!! LOL :p Ohhh I'm soo jealous, both great machines and right in front of you. Same thing happen with me, but after time, UX was gatherin dust so just had to get rid of it. :D. Now just use your time to make your PDA's even bettter buy gettin the software from this sites to enhance the looks, like SkinUI, if you like picselviewer, get Picselaccelator, gah, could go on and on, :D.

[Robyr]

I have never thought the TJ27 or TJ37 to be "thick" or even angular. Infact, the TJ27 is one of the thinnest of the Clies. the TJ25 and 35 were thinner, but by like .01 inches...

[JAmerican]

Ok, I'll put my input in as well. The one problem about asking about devices is that you cannot ask it in a forum that based on that device because a lot of people that own the other device won't see it. So in turn, you get a biased response. Just do the research and you can make your own decision.

I would get a TH55/E because of the dual wireless and great battery but its too expensive for me. Also, its missing a keyboard, which I need on my handheld but since you came from a non-keyboard device, you are used to Graffiti 2 I assume. If I wasn't so gunhoe about keyboards, I would defiately consider a TH55/E because its battery is better and it has everything the UX has.

The only things that really disappoint me is that Sony didn't include Backup Media and Int. Media in the TH. Although they added 16 more MB of RAM. I love Backup Media. I lost my MS with all my backups once and I had to hard reset and luckily, I had a backup on my device. Int. Media also is soo cool in that I can store all my docs on it instead of one of my 3 MS that I switch contantly. The keyboard also makes it easier to write papers. Some people have written novellas in Graffiti but I find it to be tedious and annoying. (Just kidding Jeff :) ) If you don't then keyboards aren't a problem for you. If you like keeping your backups on MS or only one one MS, then Backup Media and Int. Media are not for you. In this case, a TH55 would be great for you. But if you need these features, the UX is the way to go.

JAmerican

[hope]

I have had both and sold the UX once I purchased my TH55/E. I purchased the TH already planning on selling my UX, I'm not rich. Well, the main reason was I got a Powerbook. I used my UX for a little over a year and it really did replace my PC. I surfed the web, wrote my papers, while listening to music, organized my day and thoughts, took pictures all the time, wasted time through various apps. Since buying a laptop and iPod, my use for the UX really boiled down to a PDA and media device. Seeing as the TH has much better battery life and bigger screen it was just a matter of getting the Euro version. I love my TH and I do my work on a laptop as opposed to my UX. I'm graduated now and doing traveling much more I might see myself getting a UX to travel light. Though, the Treo has my beloved bluetooth, a keyboard, always available internet connection, and has really caught my eye.

I've always seen both devices as heads and shoulders above any competitor. I don't think they compete but are great for their uses. I do miss the Int Media and backup of the UX but, I have a 1gb ms and backupman now so it's mostly negated. I don't so much miss my UX but thoroughly appreciate its uses. I know I enjoy and use my TH much more at this piont in my life than I would if I had a UX. Calculate your uses and each device will be fitting.