NX80v or Tungsten T3?

[inomad]

Which is better the nx80 or t3 for gaming, video viewing and web. (assuming i can get wifi on both) What are the differences between the 2 (besides the camera, keyboard and cf slot) , and which would you buy?

[Otakud]

Well, Sony does have that game controller for around $25...Also, the clie's are designed with multimedia in mind, although you could always get Kinoma for the T3. Wouldn't know about the web since I don't use wifi. I have my laptop for that :)

Oh, and I just bought a NX80V so I guess that answers your last question. I didn't really even consider the T3...a slider?! WHYYYYYY???

[inomad]

im probebly gonna get a nx80. The ux took too much money away from me.

[Otakud]

The UX series isn't refined enough to be a solid purchase, in my opinion. And why get the UX when you can get the NX80 for a lot less? You could even buy a wi-fi card and STILL come out cheaper than the UX50. But I have to admit, I kind of like the size/form factor of the UX - minus the smaller screen, of course.

[inomad]

i found an nx80 for $350. The wifi card is around $125. Im only @ $475. I paid $650 for the ux. I save myself $175.

[Otakud]

Well...if you hurry up and order today, you might still be able to take advantage of that $50 Sony rebate offer. Your invoice must be dated by no later than today, though. So hurry and decide! :)

[ssulux]

based on specs:
1. processor: 400mhz t3 vs 200mhz nx80.
2. ram: 64mb t3 vs 31mb nx80 (16mb + 15mb jackflash).
3. bt: built in t3 vs ms nx80.
4. video viewing: kinoma 2 t3 vs video player (+ image converter) nx80.
5. audio player: any 3rd party player t3 vs sony's nx80.
6. form factor: slider t3 vs clamshell nx80.

for point 1-3, i like t3 better than nx80.
for point 4, i should ask someone who knows these material better than i am. ncoday?
for point 5, i could live with the nx80 standard player.
for point 6, i don't love clamshell but i know that i hate the slider.

thank god, there's the th55.
i know the th55 specs is under the t3 or even the nx80.
sony handheld engine? why sony does not use an ordinary and common arm processor. i mean, i'm satisfy with my nx80's battery life and i don't think the ux's battery is double than nx80's.

bottom line, i think i could live happily with my old nx80 and spice up a little bit with the th55.
he he he .... :D

[inomad]

the th only has a .3 mp camera

[inomad]

im probebly gonna get an nx80 or an asus a620bt.

[mr_gkyc]

Originally posted by ssulux
based on specs:
1. processor: 400mhz t3 vs 200mhz nx80.
2. ram: 64mb t3 vs 31mb nx80 (16mb + 15mb jackflash).
3. bt: built in t3 vs ms nx80.
4. video viewing: kinoma 2 t3 vs video player (+ image converter) nx80.
5. audio player: any 3rd party player t3 vs sony's nx80.
6. form factor: slider t3 vs clamshell nx80.

for point 1-3, i like t3 better than nx80.
for point 4, i should ask someone who knows these material better than i am. ncoday?
for point 5, i could live with the nx80 standard player.
for point 6, i don't love clamshell but i know that i hate the slider.

thank god, there's the th55.
i know the th55 specs is under the t3 or even the nx80.
sony handheld engine? why sony does not use an ordinary and common arm processor. i mean, i'm satisfy with my nx80's battery life and i don't think the ux's battery is double than nx80's.

bottom line, i think i could live happily with my old nx80 and spice up a little bit with the th55.
he he he .... :D

Another point is that Sony will never provide any upgrade to OS6. However, there is PalmOne's (formerly Palm) established track-record of providing upgrade. Plus, there is a rumour of an OS6 upgrade being developed on Brighthand. (Yes, there's also an official statement refuting that but that's to be expected.)

George

[acraniotes]

Well, if WiFi is a concern of yours, you can forget about the TT3 - at least until SanDisk finally gets around to releasing OS5 drivers for their SD WiFi cards. Of course, by then we'll probably have a whole slew of OS6 devices with built-in WiFi/BT/GPRS available, so it will be a moot point.

- Adam

[inomad]

there is a wifi case for the t3

[bbwah]

i have both the t3 and nx80v. each have its ups and downs.
nx80 have better image, cam, keyboard.

t3 have bt

[Sonnybobiche]

definitely go for the T3. my dad has it, and comparing it side by side with my NX, it is way better. Much more memory, WAY better screen, just beautiful in every way. At its lowest brightness setting, the T3s screen is brighter than my NX at its highest. Plus, I love the ability to rotate. And it's cheaper! Come on! You will not regret purchasing the T3. Besides, Palm will actually offer an OS update, unlike our shitty Sony service. Don't give Sony your money like we all have only to get screwed in the end...

<edit> And you can use third party MP3 software on it, unlike Sony's proprietary garbage-player.

[dach95]

It all depends on your taste...Both are great devices. Sony "proprietary" apps are NOT garbage... In fact MQV files are much better than Kinoma.

[Unregistered]

Camera:
NX yes... T3 no.

Keyboard:
NX yes... T3 no.

Movie player:
NX yes... T3 no.

Instilling a sense of awe in your drooling co-workers:
NX yes T3 maybe


Slider:
NX no T3 yes

Landscape:
NX no T3 yes

Price...
NX $289 T3 $399

[acraniotes]

inomad - I assume that you're referring to the Enfora WiFi portfolio... To the best of my knowledge, that device is riddled with bugs and has few fans over at Palmonecity. For all intents and purposes, if you want reliable, convienient WiFi access, the NX80 is the better unit. Besides, once you have it in the "portfolio", the TT3 is larger than the NX80, thus negating one of its main advantages.

- Adam

[Unregistered]

For video viewing its definitely the NX. Image Conveter creates quality videos as compared to using Kinoma. Plus, videos created can be played using Quicktime 6 making them available for your desktop as well.

[marcs28]

I am new to the PDA circle and am actually only about to purchase my very first. I am torn between the NX80 and the Tungsten T3. I like all the bells and whistles that come with the NX80 but really like the specs (speed and memory) that come with the T3. I guess it would be important to note I already own Sony digital camera and camcorder so memory sticks are aplenty. One of my main concerns at this time though is using the PDA's voice recorder feature for my classes. Would anyone happen to know which PDA has a "better" voice recorder. I don't sit in front of the class, but would still like to be able to record my professor's long-winded lectures clearly enough. I expect to record about 5-6 hours worth for one school day. Are any of these two compatible with voice-to-print software (i.e. Dragon Naturally Speaking)? I would really appreciate any info you can throw in my direction.
P.S. What's your take on Dell's Axim x3i?

[archangel]

My Tungsten T3 experience. This will be a bit long.

Bought one last Thursday to replace my NX60. My wife scoffed at me since I hated the original Tungsten T and ended up selling it at a loss only two months after buying it. She bought the NX80 instead to replace her NV70.

Anyway, I figured the T3 was the way to go since I could use Audible Player, have more internal memory and the 400 Mhz processor. I wasn't worried since Palm had already fixed the problem with it frying SD cards.

The unit was great the first 4 days with the exception of battery life. The battery life is terrible and the worst of any handheld I've owned. Even with the screen off 3 hours is the most I got listening to audio. My wife's NX was getting more than double that. You can literal sit and watch the battery meter drop.

Next problem is bluetooth. Using it like Wi-Fi in my home to go online sucks. The range and the transfer speed is terrible. I was hoping to use the audio streaming abilities of Pocket Tunes, but unless I was in the same room as my PC it wouldn't work. The days of easy internet access anywhere in and around my house with my NX60 and Wi-Fi card were over.

While the battery thing and bluetooth were a hassle it wasn't a deal breaker. A small device with a large screen and 400mhz processor is bound to have that problem and bluetooth is meant to be paired with a cell phone. The deal breaker came on Monday when the digitizer problems started. The more I used the unit the more and more off the digitizer became. Recalibrating didn't help either. Only a hard reset seemed to fix the problem, but eventually it would start up again. I checked the forums at Brighthand and sure enough this was a major problem that many are having.

That was it for me. Palm's second major problem with this unit and one that may not be easily fixed. I returned it and bought the unit I should have bought in the first place a NX80. I wish Sony would release their Sound API, but thats the only downside to the NX80. The screen is better than my T3 which was way too dark (minus landscape mode which was cool), the battery life is at least double, Netfront blows away webpro, plus I get a keyboard, great clamshell, Wi-Fi ability and a 1.3 Megapixel camera. Not to mention it was $70 cheaper.

BTW my wife still hasn't stop saying "I told you so".

[BMEngineer]

One more choice now-TH55!!!

[marcs28]

Hey Archangel - Thanks for the info...

To tell you truthly, I was hoping to hear feedback that will push me towards the NX80 (as an affirmation of my first choice I guess). I just felt kinda apprehensive of spending such a significant amount of moola when I know there's another handheld out there with double the MHz and RAM for about the same price.

Anyway, I did think NX80's casing (I prefer the screen covered when not in use - as added protection) and keyboard gave it a big plus (do they really prove to be?) ... even though that T3 did have landscape layout.

THEN as I was searching through the net, I ran across Dell's X3i.

AND now, BMEngineer is adding one more flavor to the bunch - TH55 (how good is this anyway? is this replacing the nx series?)

*sigh* too many choices can be overwhelming.

I just want to make the right choice... this way my husband won't have the chance to say "I told you so." LOL

[BMEngineer]

Okay tell you frankly, get the 80.

Compare to T3:
80 has a thumbboard, 1.3MP camera. The design is much better than T3. There is jog dial function on the NX compare to T3. NX has a nicer screen and better sound than T3. Battey life of the NX is much better.

Compare to TH:
1.3MP in NX compare to only .3 MP camera in TH.
200MHz processor in NX unlike processor in TH which can only go up to 124MHz processor.
Thumboard in NX

[marcs28]

BMEngineer...
Thanks for breaking it down like that...
I think I'm going to go for it (NX80)... I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope to the highest that I get a good working model:)

Anyway, does your signature mean you also had a T3 in the "past" but now have NX80? What made you change?

[BMEngineer]

I used to have a T3 you're right. However I sold it away and get a NX80.

I actually had the same problem as you in choosing between T3 and 80 the last time. But that time I went to get the T3 instead.

After getting the T3 I feel that i still miss the design and the screen of NX. The lousy battery life of the T3 also annoys me. I do not want to use SD card too, thinking that the future playstation will support memory stick. Plus I am a Sony fan. All these reasons force me to sell of my T3 and get a NX80. I am now very please with this set and have no single intention of changing it again :)

[marcs28]

I'm happy to say that I am now a super-excited owner of a nx80! :) Just finished charging it... can't wait to test it out.

Funny though that right after I ordered my nx80, we all suddenly remembered that my mom had bought a n760c (+ the modem) in 2002, which she never used (everything's in the box). My hubby's inheriting this one, so we now both have our own clies.

Wish us luck!

[winexprt]

Originally posted by marcs28
I'm happy to say that I am now a super-excited owner of a nx80! :) Just finished charging it... can't wait to test it out.

Funny though that right after I ordered my nx80, we all suddenly remembered that my mom had bought a n760c (+ the modem) in 2002, which she never used (everything's in the box). My hubby's inheriting this one, so we now both have our own clies.

Wish us luck!

Best Of Luck!

wow...NX80V is your first PDA! I should have been so lucky!

[BMEngineer]

Originally posted by marcs28
I'm happy to say that I am now a super-excited owner of a nx80! :) Just finished charging it... can't wait to test it out.

Funny though that right after I ordered my nx80, we all suddenly remembered that my mom had bought a n760c (+ the modem) in 2002, which she never used (everything's in the box). My hubby's inheriting this one, so we now both have our own clies.

Wish us luck!

Congrats on your new purchase!

[coolride]

Congratulations as well! I'm very pleased with my NX80...only had it since Christmas. I'm very positive that you will be very happy with it. I wanted the T3 as well, but after reading all the info on here at the time I wanted one, the NX80 won my vote. Again, congratulations on your NX80!

[marcs28]

Thanks to everybody here who shared their opinions... I couldn't be happier with my purchase! I absolutely love it. Already thinking of what other pricy accessories I can adorn my sweet nx80 with :) I decided to forgo the "better" mem sticks and bought a 128MB x2 (purple) mem stick instead, just so I can swap 'em around with the other Sony devices we have.

I already tried out (in bits and pieces anyway) the camera (still and movie), the games that came with the installation disc (woohoo... acid solitaire and breakout rocks), the data management *stuff*, and the voice recorder - which brings me to the following question (one of many running through my head)...

I know that this may not be the "proper" thread to ask this but does someone here know how I can amplify the mic? Is there something I can add or plug to the NX80 so it can audibly pick up a professor's lecture say 10+ feet away?

Thanks again for the great PDA selection advice and also in advance for whatever info you impart!


-Joy

[acraniotes]

To the best of my knowledge, there is no way to amplify the mic on the NX80. Since there is no mic input port, it's impossible add an external microphone. Sorry.

Still, it's not as if any other PDA out there comes with an external mic port, so IMO you still have the absolute best PDA out there (I've been doing the "PDA thing" ever since the original Newton, and currently own and use a PPC and a Psion, so I consider myself relatively knowledgable about these things). I've had my NX80 since Aug '03, and to date there isn't a single PDA on the market that I would consider switching to. Even the new TH55 comes up short.

Oh, and if you're in the market for accessories, I highly recommend picking up a wifi card (WL100s can be found on eBay for cheap) and a KB100 folding keyboard. With these two accessories, you truly have a laptop replacement. There really is nothing quite like sitting in a Starbuck's in Greenwich Village, reaching into your pockets and a minute later finding yourself editing docs in WordSmith (or Docs2Go - depending on your preference), surfing the internet, AIMing buddies on a full-size keyboard, and listening to mp3s (believe it or not, but the stellar battery of the NX80 makes simultaneous surfing/mp3 playback entirely viable). Even the jaded, hipster iBook/PowerBook crowd can't stop staring in envy.

- Adam

[marcs28]

Hey Adam,

Thanks for the input. What you said does make sense. After tinkering with the accessories that came with my NX80, I realized plugging the headphones in greatly "amplify" my test voice recordings, rather than relying on the external speakers (duh). Now, I just hope I can make this work with my Dragon Naturally Speaking Software (oh if it's not one thing it's another LOL).

Regards,
Joy

P.S. It's really enlightening to have someone who's owned his PDA for over six months still think it rocks... here's hoping I can say the same in 6 months... BTW, the battery life does laaast - played with it for two whole days (and nights) without charging!

[acraniotes]

Glad my input helped, Joy. To be honest, I'm on sort of a voluntary "one-year plan" with my PDAs, but usually I wind up lusting after some new device fairly soon after I trade up from my old PDA. With the NX80, I'm still waiting for that day to come. It really is the best PDA I've ever owned, and until someone releases a new device that does EVERYTHING my NX80 does - and adds some more memory and built-in wireless without sacrificing battery life - I'm not going to trade it in.

Strangely, I have a feeling that in another six months I'm still going to be using my NX80.

Congrats on your purchase. Enjoy, and welcome to the fold.

- Adam

PS - I think you'll find that most of us NX80 owners feel the same way I do. Once you install Peleca's CF-enabled apps and purchase JackFlash to open up an extra 15MB of memory in ROM, the NX80 really is as close to perfect as can reasonably be expected. Just my $0.02.

[Spiral]

The T|T3 has better picture quality vs. size with mmplayer than NX80. The player is far less polished, and less user-friendly, but it's far better than kinoma, and a bit better than the sony player.