1src Forums - NX73/80 Officially Discontinued...maybe

Otakud

01-28-2004, 02:58 AM

So I have just returned from a trip down to CompUsa to see if they had the NX80 in stock. Aside from the ignorant and not-very-friendly salespeople, I was told that they no longer carry it because it has been discontinued by Sony. To double check I asked the customer service desk and made them check their stock and their database to see if what the salesperson told me was true. Apparently, this is the case, although I think it is rather obvious to all of us that the end was near. I just didn't expect that the end of the current NX series had already come.

This would explain why CompUSA recently had the $299 sale on the NX73V - simple to clear out the remaining stock because they would no longer be carrying it - because Sony has discontinued it. They no longer show either of the NX models on display either, only the UX models (and even then it's only the UX50).

So, in conclusion, if you want to get your NX80 (not refurb or used), you better look into getting it soon or you may have a very hard time finding it locally and at major online resellers. Once the current stock sells-out, I have a feeling that you'll be seeing less and less of these models, although I think this has already happened throughout most retailers.

BMEngineer

01-28-2004, 04:48 AM

Sooner or later NX73/80 is going to be discontinued....thats a known fact.

ssulux

01-28-2004, 04:53 AM

should i say welcome to nx 100 :D

Otakud

01-28-2004, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by BMEngineer
Sooner or later NX73/80 is going to be discontinued....thats a known fact.

Well, of course the NX73/80 must be discontiued sometime, but I was just pointing out that maybe it's a lot closer than we all think - therefore, if you want one and don't already have one (like me), you better get moving on it or you may never find one (at least, outside of ebay).

BMEngineer

01-28-2004, 08:15 AM

A lot of NX80 users might be coming out to sell of their set too not to forget. :)

markgm

01-28-2004, 01:05 PM

Originally posted by ssulux
should i say welcome to nx 100 :D

If you don't, I will ;-)

Rosenkrantz

01-28-2004, 03:04 PM

I love my NX80, its really the best handheld I've ever had and that's saying an awful lot - considering my first PDA was a Newton. Only thing I would improve about the NX80 would be to add a better camera and maybe built in wifi. But a can add wifi via the CF slot. I hope there is a replacement NX unit or something like it. I actually need to swap our my NX80 as the screen is starting to lose sensitivity.

MarkVI

01-28-2004, 03:43 PM

I emailed Comp-U-Plus about why they are selling the NX80 for s little. They tld me, "That's the deal Sony gave us." I think Sony is phasing out the NX80...

winexprt

01-28-2004, 04:32 PM

Clearly, the NX80 is on the way out. I got this feeling last week when I began seeing these amazingly low prices for brand new units on certain web sites (I posted a thread about CompUPlus.com a few days ago). Hmmm...kind of a bummer because I really haven't had my NX80 all that long (3 1/2 months).

When we see this happen, Sony ALWAYS has a model(s) lined up & ready to go once they drop the axe for good on the old one. I'm salivating here thinking that they will finally come out with some sort of new version of the UX50. I will buy one on the first day if they do.

GodOwnsAnNX80

01-28-2004, 05:30 PM

I wouldn't worry about not being able to find them available. There's ALWAYS some hanging out from some hole-in-the-wall company, just not Best Buy. Just last year I found an online retailer that was selling Atari 2600 games still in their shrinkwrap. That's 20 year old stuff, still brand new.

SOmebody said that a lot of NX80 owners will jump on the next Clie and I think that's going to be the best deal for people hunting NX80. The used market should be very welcoming then.

Otakud

01-28-2004, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by markgm

If you don't, I will ;-)

It's sad for me to say it, but I think it may be true: This is probably the last we'll see of the NX/NZ/NR series.

Like some others have speculated and reasoned, this just makes sense. With the new TH55 and future UX models, Sony has all their bases covered with just these two models (speaking of the higher end only) What need is there for a NX? The TH55 is a replacement in the sense that it will still have the Hi-Res+ screen and the camera but no keyboard. The UX is also a replacement because it's just like the NX but in a different form factor. Sure, neither of them have CF slots, but does Sony really care about CF in the first place? Also, I would think that if a NX100 came out it'd have wi-fi built in. Why wouldn't it? If even the lower-ended TH55 has the wi-fi, why wouldn't at least SOME version of a future NX NOT have it.

It's a little sad to see the NR/X/Z series go, but it was good while it lasted. On that point, I wonder if there will ever be a camera greater than .3 MPixel in future Clies. Somehow, I doubt it. With the current form factor of the UX and TH series, I don't see how this would be possible. I hope Sony proves me wrong, but I'm not betting on another .3MP+ Clie - which is why I'm leaning towards getting a NX80 right now.

winexprt

01-28-2004, 07:10 PM

Excellent point Otakud! Very well put.

BMEngineer

01-28-2004, 07:50 PM

I still bet on the release of new NX :)

ClieKun

01-28-2004, 07:52 PM

they still sellingthem in Japan. No TG 50 only 80 and others

stronggeek

01-28-2004, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by BMEngineer
I still bet on the release of new NX :)

I agree, for unless you actually owned and used an NX series machine you probably wouldn't realize UX or TH alone could not replace the NX series the fashion that many of us use it.

The UX series IMO sucks (weak battery life, the small screen, the notorius whine and so on) and the TH is missing a keyboard and cf slot among other things and for me would be downgrade.

Man, why stop making your highest selling series?

lino-man

01-28-2004, 08:41 PM

Of course it has been discontinued. All I had to do was go out and buy a new nx80v and that would pretty much be the end of the line for them. Same as when I got my nx70v......:rolleyes:

ClieKun

01-28-2004, 08:42 PM

wow with all the ads fo sales its too noticable.

But still alot of devices are still around.

stronggeek

01-28-2004, 09:05 PM

Originally posted by lino-man
Of course it has been discontinued. All I had to do was go out and buy a new nx80v and that would pretty much be the end of the line for them. Same as when I got my nx70v......:rolleyes:

The NX80, well of course! :rolleyes: :)

But I'm referring to the NX series beibg discontinued.

And please stop buying devices I like! :)

bighornsheep

01-28-2004, 09:10 PM

My guess would be that it's going to be discontinued soon.

But NOT YET...

check the site for more details, it's not gone until Sony says it is!

ClieKun

01-28-2004, 09:12 PM

like i posted before there are tons around. If yu do a search you find more then a dozen places selling at a great price. prices are going to drop more.

winexprt

01-28-2004, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by stronggeek

I agree,_for unless you actually owned and used an NX series machine you probably wouldn't realize UX or TH alone could not replace the NX series the fashion that many of us use it.

The UX series IMO sucks_(weak battery life, the small screen, the notorius whine and so on)_and the TH is missing a keyboard and_cf slot_among other things and for me would be downgrade.

Man, why stop_making your highest selling series?

The TH55 really doesn't need the CF slot (built in WiFi)...and frankly if my NX80 had built in WiFi as well I would instantly have no more need/use for it either. If you remember correctly (or if you don't) the original purpose of the slot was for you to go out and buy Sony's proprietary WiFi card. That's it. They (SONY) only reluctantly opened up (to very limited usage) the CF slot on the NX80/73 after the fiasco over the last Clie's CF slot being so limited.

stronggeek

01-28-2004, 10:31 PM

Originally posted by winexprt

The TH55 really doesn't need the CF slot (built in WiFi)... Very obvious, but point taken.

and frankly if my NX80 had built in WiFi as well I would instantly have no more need/use for it either. I need/want it for as you may or may not know CF is is not only less expensive per MB, but also allows quicker access to files, docs and so on.

I don't need BT and rarely use my wi-fi  card as I normally get my wifi on with my notebook anyway and since I own a 1g cf card which cost me 180 (at the time of purchase the MS Pro would have cost well over 600) you can see where I'm coming from.

If you remember correctly (or if you don't) the original purpose of the slot was for you to go out and buy Sony's proprietary WiFi card. That's it. I remember.

They (SONY) only reluctantly opened up (to very limited usage) the CF slot on the NX80/73 after the fiasco over the last Clie's CF slot being so limited. Actually I still think it's beacause someone else (Euruware) had already cracked it!

But yet they still manufacture wi-fi cards that the NX series use and they also manufacture a mobile GPS unit that at the moment is only compatible with the NX73, NX80 and the TG50 which leads me to believe that the NX series won't be discontinued.

Otherwise you didn't comment on the lack of a keyboard (Please don't point to the UX).

I for one like choice and am very handy with the keyboard and would miss not being able to switch from jot to graffiti to the keyboard in an instant.

Obviously our needs and wants are extremely different!

I guess we'll just have to sit back and see what Sony brings us...

Meanwhile I'm very content with my NX80!

But speculating is fun isn't it?  :)

Otakud

01-28-2004, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by winexprt

The TH55 really doesn't need the CF slot (built in WiFi)...and frankly if my NX80 had built in WiFi as well I would instantly have no more need/use for it either. If you remember correctly (or if you don't) the original purpose of the slot was for you to go out and buy Sony's proprietary WiFi card. That's it. They (SONY) only reluctantly opened up (to very limited usage) the CF slot on the NX80/73 after the fiasco over the last Clie's CF slot being so limited.

I agree with you on the CF issue. I really don't see Sony implementing this into future handhelds. The UX50 and TH55 both have built in wi-fi and that's all Sony really cares about. I think Sony figured out what they wanted to do with their future handhelds after the NX series, and I don't think that future involves another line of NX models. It just doesn't make sense to release more NX's with the new TH55 and the continuation of the UX series. It's not like the UX50 will be the last UX. I think it's just the beginning. And as time goes on, I think the UX will inheret more features from the NX and so will the TH55.

Sony probably expects those who want the keyboard feature to switch to the UX series (since this is their new top of the line), and for the rest who don't really care about the keyboard but just the big screen to switch over to the TH series. Is there a need for a TH/UX hybrid? No. With the introduction of the TH55 and newer UX models, the NX series will just become a niche market, which I don't believe Sony cares about too much. So in the end, the NX line is split into two lines: TH and UX. Is that so hard to imagine?

Not to say that I don't like the NX series - I JUST ordered a NX80v. Will I die when I hear the news that there will not be another NX? No. I think Sony will improve their UX enough in the future to make it a lot more attractive to me than the UX40/50 are now. And I have owned both a NX60 and 70 in the past, so it's not like I'm talking without using any previous NX machines.

Dripps

01-28-2004, 10:52 PM

But speculating is fun isn't it?
No it's a big tease!

winexprt

01-28-2004, 11:24 PM

Originally posted by stronggeek

Obviously our needs and wants are extremely different!

Yes they are. That is why I used "I" in my post and not your name. I really don't need a line by line analysis of my statements from you. I didn't mention anything about a keyboard because I don't really care to much about keyboards.

ClieKun

01-28-2004, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Dripps

No it's a big tease! :D for some:p

stronggeek

01-28-2004, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by winexprt

Yes they are. I'm glad you agree

That is why I used "I" in my post and not your name. Uh huh..., but it was in response to post

I really don't need a line by line analysis of my statements from you.

And yet I gave you one!

I didn't mention anything about a keyboard because I don't really care to much about keyboards.  Yea, but I mentioned it because I do care! :)

21stcenturymac

01-28-2004, 11:43 PM

Even with the dawn of the TH series, I just bought my NX80 from Datavis.com ($349.00 + shipping).  The camera and increased ram ( with Jack Flash) was the reason.  The CF slot also means more to me than cheap storage (good reason, though): my primary camera uses CF media and I can cross format the cf card to read on my Clie so I can instantly transfer images to view in Acid Image Pro.  I also have another camera that uses SmartMedia and I use a CF-to-SmartMedia converter to download images to my Clie as well.

NX Series:  I LIKE the clamshell form factor, the keyboard, the CF slot (with wonderful enhancements from Eruware/whatever and Pelaca) and I have no interest in a new NX model until I have built-in Wifi, Bluetooth, global portrait/landscape mode and more memory.  And I'm not that particular (I think):  I came from a Newton MP130 to the NX70V in 2002.

The same availability pattern for NX73/80 series seems to be similar to the couple of months before their release.  Given Sony's incrementally slow advance per model, I doubt a new NX series would attract me.

Then, of course, maybe they throw OS 6 at me with WiFi sniffer and a slew of software emhancements . . . thank goodness for liquid income.:)

winexprt

01-28-2004, 11:53 PM

Nice geek. Tit for tat. Very petty. Very mature.

stronggeek

01-28-2004, 11:55 PM

Well spoken 21stcenturymac

And as I am happy with my current setup I myself don't feel the need to rush into anything new.

I'm tempted to buy a spare NX80 (though I have the BB warranty we now know they can't replace them with the like), but with OS6 looming in the future I think I'll hold off.

dach95

01-29-2004, 12:27 AM

W E L C O M E NX-100V... with the following preliminary specs...
CFSlot, 128MB RAM, 400mhz, 3000Wh super thinner battery, builtin BT and Wifi, OS6, Netfront4...Just teasing...:)  hope the next incremental upgrade would surpass my list...

terrycg

01-29-2004, 12:27 AM

I haven't been terribly excited about the current specs of Sony's proprietary processor based on what I've been reading. (I admit to not having done more than play with a UX50 in stores.) That seems like another issue relating to new Clie's of whatever model since the "highend" is using it.

dach95,

I'd like that NX-100!

UFG

01-29-2004, 12:55 AM

The next NX should be the NX220 or something. Two-twenty sounds better than one-hundred.

rhinoman

01-29-2004, 01:21 AM

I think that they will make another NX model with OS6. Even if they do, I still recommend getting an NX80 while you can at the low prices being offered. Just because a model is discontinued, doesn't mean that it is obsolete. The NX80 is fantastic and new models of NXs probably won't be out until Spring. That is still a lot of time to enjoy it and possibly sell it if you need the latest.

rhinoman

magicwv

01-29-2004, 02:40 AM

LONG LIVE ALL NXs

donoman

01-29-2004, 02:43 AM

I think the clamshell form factor is awesome. I don't think I want to go back to a PDA with a smaller screen and without a keyboard. That's what makes this sucker so nice. I can't stand the tiny screen on the UX. Plus, I can't imagine carrying that thing in my pocket. I don't think they'll get rid of the NX...

Welp.. didn't they just release a 2mpxl verson of the NX? I saw it at CompUSA for like a Bazillion dollars

anitanium

01-29-2004, 02:51 AM

well
just wait a few months
then it will be dirt cheap!

Otakud

01-29-2004, 03:09 AM

Originally posted by anitanium
well
just wait a few months
then it will be dirt cheap!

Dirt cheap? Not really. Only the used ones will go down in price because people will be getting rid of their old NX80's for the newer stuff. However, if you look at retailers who STILL carry older models like the NX60/70, it's pretty obvious that the lowest you'll ever get these is for around $350 even NOW. So, this would lead me to believe that you're not going to see the NX80 go down in price any more. In fact, I bought mine today to take advantage of the rebate, which is probably the last rebate offer for the 73/80 from Sony. Even if you look on Ebay, you're not going to see loads of auctions for brand new 60/70 models for less than $300~$325.

If you want it now, I'd suggest getting it now. There's not really a point in waiting if you ask me - unless you're going the used route.

ClieKun

01-29-2004, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by anitanium
well
just wait a few months
then it will be dirt cheap!
I think so, Its only a matter of time.........in a few months........

Sunscreen

01-29-2004, 04:11 AM

The hardest part to swallow about gadgets is when the price starts dropping. I bought the lovely, amazing, fantastic NX80 for $480 when it came out... thank God the $ is losing value so it makes gadgets chearper for us across the oceans...

If the NX is being phased out a new version UX is probably very close, since the present one doesn't replace it.

ssulux

01-29-2004, 04:47 AM

if sony will ever release clie with a screen capability of portrait/landscape mode, i think it should be in nx line, since i don't see any possibility to operate the back jog dial (th55) in a landscape mode.

in ux, the width (or should i say the depth) is a little too wide to be hold with 1 hand, or sony has to redesign a little bit to be like sharp zaurus. i mean, is it comfortable to use the ux in portrait mode?

ssulux

01-29-2004, 04:53 AM

on top of that, i'm afraid that we have see no more new clies (any model) with cf slot. i hate this fact since i found that the cf slot is very usefull for me.

Dripps

01-29-2004, 08:06 AM

on top of that, i'm afraid that we have see no more new clies (any model) with cf slot. i hate this fact since i found that the cf slot is very usefull for me.

I agree completely. And after thinking this issue over I'm ordering my new NX80 after I post this message. At this price of $288 I can't resist. I haven't even seen my old NX70V at that price!! I will use my CompUSA TAP plan to replace my NX70V when the NEW NX comes out or settle for the incredible sounding TH55. Who knows what will be here in a couple months but I do know I will want it!

ssulux

01-29-2004, 12:53 PM

dripps, you make a right move and congrats on your new 80. ;)
even i will have my th55, i don't think i ever want to let go my nx80 since it is a really really good machine for me.
but ... i don't mind to have the nx100 (400mhz, 128mb ram, portrait/landscape screen mode, built in bt & wifi, retractable cf slot) to replace the 80 .... :D
again, it seems to me that i have too much coffee ...

archangel

01-29-2004, 01:00 PM

I got the cheap NX80 as well as this may be the end of the clamshell NX style with CF slot. Hopefully it won't be and Sony will have a new NX series in the spring, but the NX80 will tide me over anyway until a good OS6 model is affordable.

zeke87

01-29-2004, 04:35 PM

i went to the nx80 support page and it took me to a page that came with an error. It was trying to bring me to an nx83v page (which showed error). I corrected the browser and it seemed to work.

magicwv

01-29-2004, 06:25 PM

You think the people at sony even know about this site, or come here to read the suggestions and comments of CLIE users?

winexprt

01-29-2004, 06:46 PM

They just might.

EdFrmBrighthand

01-30-2004, 11:31 AM

Originally posted by magicwv
You think the people at sony even know about this site, or come here to read the suggestions and comments of CLIE users?

Yes, I know they do.

ClieDad

01-30-2004, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by ssulux
if sony will ever release clie with a screen capability of portrait/landscape mode, i think it should be in nx line, since i don't see any possibility to operate the back jog dial (th55) in a landscape mode.

in ux, the width (or should i say the depth) is a little too wide to be hold with 1 hand, or sony has to redesign a little bit to be like sharp zaurus. i mean, is it comfortable to use the ux in portrait mode?

I completely agree. I like the NX form factor and the clamshell design. It's so flexible with the CF slot, keyboard, and the jogdial on the side. I depend on the grafitti AND the keyboard, depending on the situation. And with the clamshell I don't need a case. If they would build in a Portrait/Landscape mode I would upgrade in a heartbeat! Otherwise my NX60 should be good for another year.

Unregistered

01-30-2004, 03:32 PM

PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE.
what is wrong with u guys, stop arguing.
Sony is a company that cares about money not customers......
can you say it with me, "MMMOOOO-NNEEYY", NOT customers.
If you look at the facts, the NR was a great model right, then they
improved it and make it the NX. there was the NX 60, 70, 73, 80.
Thats 4 models in the NX series. I (stronggeek, noticed i said I) think they will discontinue the NX and improve it to another model name, maybe.......NQ, NO, NP, NJ or NY (not meaning new jersey or new york). With the same clamshell and all but with OS6 and other goodies that we the "customer " can drool over, then hypnotize us to come with Our " MMOOO-NNNEEYY" and get thier new model ( which I think will be great).

peace out Clie-lovers
Remember be a Clieist not a hateist.

loverboydre16

01-30-2004, 03:36 PM

that was me, cookies must have timed out ^^^^

stronggeek

01-30-2004, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered/loverboydre16
PEOPLE, PEOPLE, PEOPLE.
what is wrong with u guys, stop arguing.
Sony is a company that cares about money not customers......
can you say it with me, "MMMOOOO-NNEEYY", NOT customers.
If you look at the facts, the NR was a great model right, then they
improved it and make it the NX. there was the NX 60, 70, 73, 80.
Thats 4 models in the NX series. I (stronggeek, noticed i said I) think they will discontinue the NX and improve it to another model name, maybe.......NQ, NO, NP, NJ or NY (not meaning new jersey or new york). With the same clamshell and all but with OS6 and other goodies that we the "customer " can drool over, then hypnotize us to come with Our " MMOOO-NNNEEYY" and get thier new model ( which I think will be great).

peace out Clie-lovers
Remember be a Clieist not a hateist.

loverboydre16, Now you know I (and I said I) agree with ya on all points!

And yea, they'll give it a new name just like they did with NX from the NR or if they repackage the UX and make it the way the new NX should be, but call it a UX or whatever I'll buy it... eventually.

If Palm makes it first (though I doubt), then I'll go there.

It's all about the money, not about us and all I was trying to explain is that the UX nor the TH can take the place of the NX alone.

Though each unit adds something the NX doesn't have, each unit is also missing features that the current NX series does have.

Peace to you also! :)

ssulux

01-31-2004, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by stronggeek

Though each unit adds something the NX doesn't have, each unit is also missing features that the current NX series does have.

Peace to you also! :)

yeah, totally agree with you stronggeek.
that's why we will never have a perfect clie.

i mean why sony does not make category like notebooks:
1. desktop replacement ---- nx with all features, 400mhz, 128 ram, keyboard, big & bright screen, cf slot, built in bt & wifi.
2. road warrior --- th with all the slim factor features.

he he he ... ;)
so we could have the th for daily business activity and the nx for long business trip.

peace to all. :D

donoman

01-31-2004, 06:11 AM

Gotta remember, if they make it, and it sucks, we won't buy it.

I was waiting 5 years with my Palm V, patiently waiting for Sony to come out with something that could actually play videos, MP3's, pictures, voice record, had a keyboard, and also have a large screen.

Other than a likely "weak" mechanical design, I think the NX/NR series will stick around for a while.

All you people who are stressing out and buying up the rest of the stock are sorta doing the same thing that happened when the Acura Integra was announced to be in its last year of production... Look what they have now, the RSX --- a superior car.