View Full Version : How do you know, which apps can go on the Memory Stick?
Paully_girl
02-16-2003, 01:59 PM
Everytime I see a program that I want to try and hopefully use, I always wonder if it can go on the memory stick or not?
As a matter of fact this whole memory stick thing has gotten the best of me.
I hear the best program to make moving things to the Memory stick is Powerrun...is that true?
But also, please help me understand how to understand which programs can be used on the memory stick and which ones can't.
Maybe even explain the basic idea of the memory stick...is a program on the memory stick untill it's used? Then when called to action it's pulled into the RAM of the Clie? Then when done goes back to the Memory stick?
...I don't know, I am still confused about this topic as well as many others.
Thanks for you help,
Paully_girl
*YellowRose*
02-16-2003, 02:15 PM
Most good launchers will 'help' you to move the programs to the memory stick (or off) with very little problem. You can also choose to install directly to the card, which is how I usually do it. There are very few programs that will not work off the memory card, and most of the ones that will not are medical type apps. You don't really need Power Run unless some of your programs have really huge databases that you also want to move (I use it for TV Browser from pimcity.com).
If you install your apps to your card, and do not use a third-party launcher, your apps will appear on your 'card' tab on your default launcher. (Just letting you know, so you don't think their lost! ;))
In addition, a good third party launcher will allow you put the apps on the card in ANY category . . . that alone is worth the cost of a launcher to me . . . ;)
Good luck!
Paully_girl
02-16-2003, 02:23 PM
I am slowly but surely understanding this stuff....
But there is so much out there it's hard to figure out where to start.
I have launcherX for my 3rd party launcher app...I assume it does what you are speaking of...I seems to be a great launcher.
How do you like powerrun?
Thanks,
Paully_girl
matt7777
02-16-2003, 02:40 PM
Paully_girl
I should just to a search on you to find out the answers to my questions. I just got this and am right behind you on the learning curve. Keep asking away - there are many of us who are really benefitting from all the responses from the experts.
Matt
jkunk
02-16-2003, 02:46 PM
I don't use PowerRun, but I do have LauncherX, which I love. (Some others to consider are ZLauncher and YiShow, both of which are very popular and also support moving apps to the memory stick, if I'm not mistaken).
To move an app to the memory stick using LauncherX just drag it's icon to the memory stick icon in the toolbar, and then select "Move to Card" from the menu that pops up. That's it! You'll now notice a small mem stick indicator on the app's icon, and you can put it into whatever category you like.
For programs that have databases which synchronize with your desktop (such as HanDBase, which has a desktop app you can use to edit your handheld databases, or MobiPocket which needs to grab info from the net), you need to create a shortcut if you want to run them from the memory card. To do this, just drag the icon for the app to the memory stick icon a second time and choose "Create Shortcut". This may work, although I've found it to be somewhat iffy. I can't get it to work for HanDBase, but others have reportedly had success. For most programs, though, you shouldn't need this step anyway. Most apps that I need to synchronize I want on my device at all times, not on a stick which I may swap out to listen to music.
I hope this helped. Good luck with your new NX! :)
Paully_girl
02-16-2003, 02:46 PM
You know the old saying, "no question is a dumb question"....
Sometimes I feel like I may be asking something that I should know,..but, then again, if I have truley researched a subject and still am uncertain about it, then I have no problem asking.
What's important, is that people here are very nice and usually supply answers in a very friendly and informative way.
So start asking those questions and together, maybe, we can figure this thing out!
Good Luck,
Paully_girl
Paully_girl
02-16-2003, 02:51 PM
That is very helpful..I've already copied and pasted that to my LauncherX info file I am keeping.....
Here's a question for ya,
Once I drag the Icon to the memory stick, I don't need that icon (or is it still a program) on the clie, do I?
So, If it is on the Memory stick now, should I not delete the icon/program from the Clie?
Thanks,
Paullly_girl
jkunk
02-16-2003, 04:20 PM
If you chose "Move to Card" rather than "Copy to Card" then you don't have to delete anything. LauncherX will automatically take care of all that for you. If you chose "Copy to Card" then, yes, you can safely delete the program from your Clie's internal memory. Just be careful to NOT delete any associated files that the program may need. LauncherX will ask if you want to when you drag the program to the trashcan - just tell it not to. :)
Paully_girl
02-16-2003, 04:24 PM
Thanks again for all your help!
Have a great day,
Paully_girl
I am starting to like the MegaLauncher 4.1 which now allows you to put a background image. The only hassle is the background image is a PRC file. You have to read ML's instructions how to slice a 320x480 image into six 160x160 bitmaps and have to run a DOS batch file to compile all those into a PRC file.
BTW, ML automatically create icons for programs residing in MS launcher folder.
matt7777
02-16-2003, 06:50 PM
OK... if you put an app on the MS thru powerrun - there is a little file left on your handheld. Should we erase it? does it need to be there?
Powerrun works great with most launchers including ML4.1. It's really an option to run apps off MS by Powerrun or by launcher of your choice. If by launcher, then you have to remove it from Powerrun's list of applications to get rid of duplicate icons.
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mashoutposse
02-16-2003, 06:58 PM
PowerRUN seems to be noticeably faster than the launcher-based methods. It certainly is cleaner IMO (it moves the application and all related files easily).
n2ifp
02-16-2003, 07:04 PM
I only need ZLauncher for now. I just view my memory stick as a hard drive like I'd find on my desktop PC. Only certain mission critical apps or databases need to remain in RAM.
Paully_girl
02-16-2003, 07:06 PM
I do not like having bits and pieces of programs laying around taking up space if they don't need to be.
The last thing I want is to move things; think they are moved, but still have remnants of them laying around causing trouble.
So you say PowerRun is cleaner than the launching programs at moving apps to the Memory Stick.
If that's the case, I think PowerRun is a better bet.
How did you find this out?...from personal experience? or is it documented somewhere?
Also mashoutposse, does Powerrun go on the Memory Stick or on the Clie itself?
Thanks for your good words,
Paully_girl
matt7777
02-16-2003, 07:09 PM
Maybe I'm not being too clear (not the first or last time) When I put Bejewled on the MS thru Powerrun and played it. After I noticed a small file "bejewled" on the handheld. Is that a shadow from when powerrun loaded it onto the handheld to play and therefore not needed - or- is it a necessary part theat needs to be there???
thanks
mashoutposse
02-16-2003, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by Paully_girl
I do not like having bits and pieces of programs laying around taking up space if they don't need to be.
The last thing I want is to move things; think they are moved, but still have remnants of them laying around causing trouble.
So you say PowerRun is cleaner than the launching programs at moving apps to the Memory Stick.
If that's the case, I think PowerRun is a better bet.
How did you find this out?...from personal experience? or is it documented somewhere?
Also mashoutposse, does Powerrun go on the Memory Stick or on the Clie itself?
Thanks for your good words,
Paully_girl
Personal experience -- I have nearly 100 apps running off of the Memory Stick via PowerRUN with next to no problems. The only files left in RAM are small shortcut files, and when you hit 'Delete' or 'Move' from within PowerRUN, it cleans up after itself, leaving no remnants (there are likely exceptions, but I haven't found them yet). If you encounter a soft reset before PowerRUN has a chance to erase the app image in RAM, all you have to do is run the PowerRUN version, close it, and it will clean it all up.
Heck, PowerRUN is so good, I actually use it as an uninstaller (if you hit delete, it will remove everything related to the app).
PowerRUN goes in RAM, but it's only about 70k .
I give PowerRUN my highest recommendation. I only use the launcher-based methods as a last resort (see Docs-To-Go).
mashoutposse
02-16-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by matt7777
Maybe I'm not being too clear (not the first or last time) When I put Bejewled on the MS thru Powerrun and played it. After I noticed a small file "bejewled" on the handheld. Is that a shadow from when powerrun loaded it onto the handheld to play and therefore not needed - or- is it a necessary part theat needs to be there???
thanks
If the file has na asterisk in the name, it is necessary: That is the shortcut file, and is removed when you delete or move the app from within PowerRUN.
matt7777
02-16-2003, 08:21 PM
Thanks - it was all the ones with an asterik that I was wondering about.
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