WonderSilk: The Amazing new Silk Plug-in app suite

[jbarr]

WARNING: THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION WAS STUMBLED UPON, IS UNOFFICIAL, AND IN NO WAY CONDONES FINDING, INSTALLING, AND USING THE PROGRAM! DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!! YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

I stumbled on this over at the CliePlanet (http://www.clieplanet.com).

It's a Silk Plug-in called "WonderSilk" that might open up a TON of potential for the NX series. It's designed for the Japanese OS right now, but it does load and is fully functional on the US OS with a few cosmetic problems (see below.)

Oh my gosh! It took some doing, but this program is potentially a VERY hot item! I downloaded it from the Japanese site, and decided to just blindly install and run it. Not very smart, I know, but this thing is SO COOL!

The site is at http://www.ne.jp/asahi/fairy/chimera/Onl_OthersPalm.html and it's in Japanese. Runit through Babelfish, and it's pretty readable.

The distribution consists of six Palm files: One of the included files is the main app, one is the new Silk Plug-in, and the other four are the specific skins. Install them all.

First thing, check the checkbox in the upper right corner. This seems to convert the filenames listed to English. (You DID install all the files didn't you?)

OK, now tap the silk plug-in button on the Status Bar and select "WonderSilk".

Next, Back in the app, select one of the skins listed and tap the highlighted large button on the right of the screen just below the list. This "activates" the selected skin. Notice that there is considerable functionality added to the Virtual Graffiti area.

Some of the skins have MP3 player controls built in (THAT WORK!!) and others add hard button functionality. They include clip board functions, and several other definable buttons.

The button just below the bug button described above activates the Graffiti color. You can tap on the color picker to change the color of the Graffiti "echos" when you write.

The button below that (the one on the bottom) opens a dialog that allows you to define 5 "Text clips" that will be inserted if you tap on a corresponding button found on a couple of the skins. Kind of a permanent clipboard for often-used words/phrases.

Tapping the menu button brings up 5 uninteligible selections.

Not sure what the top one does.

Not sure what the second one does.

The third one opens up an app picker that allows you to assign up to 8 apps to 8 buttons. These buttons appear on a couple of the skins.

The bottom one is the "About" screen.

That's about it. The concept is that the Graffiti area can be transformed into a multi-function area that can do WAY more than just Graffiti input.

This app, while entirely in Japanese now, is VERY COOL. This has HUGE potential. I just wish there wasn't the language barrier.

ONE MAJOR NOTE: This is a Japanese OS style Graffiti area, so the four "extra" Japanese buttons are active on the left side of the Graffiti area, and though they seem to respond, they don't activate anything on the US OS version. Also, the Graffiti area, displays in the center, and accepts input, but sometimes conflict with the four Japanese buttons on the left.

[OcellNuri]

This is what I've been waiting for. I can't wait for this to be ported to English.

[GoldenTiger]

Does anyone see an email link on the page to ask about an english translation of wondermaker? I don't see one, unfortunately... babelfish could make a good enough email for them to understand what we're asking if we can find the link.

 

Interesting... I could recode the dialogs to be English once I figure out EXACTLY what everything does. If I do it, I'll post...  some parts of it look like they might be beyond my ability as I don't know how they managed to access the silk plugin function calls, though.

 

I might be able to get rid of the non-working Japanese buttons that aren't on the English NX... I'll experiment a bit tomorrow. It looks like it comes with a way to modify any skins you want, or I may be able to alter the program with prcedit/explorer.

 

Info I gleaned from a cursory look at the page and coding:

It allows for up to 40 elements/buttons

You might be able to make regular hardbuttons with it for using in games

Things such as placing a calculator popup inside the graffiti area WITHOUT EXITTING your current app may be possible.

You can likely make the buttons animate after being pressed.

 

This software looks very promising...

[samsitedesigns]

is this freeware??

[hansschmucker]

Yep, but a great help nevertheless. GET IT. And would one of you japanes guys mind translating WonderSilk (using Constructor) and/or WonderMaker (using Resource Hacker)??? That would be so great!

[Disgruntled]

wow, this could be awesome

[pusfarm]

Originally posted by jbarr
Tapping the menu button brings up 5 uninteligible selections.

Not sure what the top one does. The first one appears to be an import button. Click the button on the bottom middle and you get an error, but just above it are the words "Now Importing...."

Has anyone figured out how to change the program icons in the "SampleSkin By TW"?  They may be coded in the program because I see a NetFront icon, but done't have that loaded.  It launches anything I assign to it.

[rldunn]

I agree, this seems to have a lot of potential!! Can't wait to see what happens with this.

[jbarr]

Originally posted by pusfarm
Has anyone figured out how to change the program icons in the "SampleSkin By TW"?  They may be coded in the program because I see a NetFront icon, but done't have that loaded.  It launches anything I assign to it. I am assuming you use the associated "WonderMaker" program. I downloaded it, and it looks VERY flexible and complete, I just can't figure it out! AAhhrrgghh!

[mashoutposse]

Man JBarr, you're definitely one of the MVPs of the Clie community. Thanks for yet another great find!!!

[pusfarm]

Originally posted by jbarr
I am assuming you use the associated "WonderMaker" program. I downloaded it, and it looks VERY flexible and complete, I just can't figure it out! AAhhrrgghh! Actually, no, I couldn't figure that out either.  I just installed the 6 files and selected the "TW" skin.  I assigned 8 programs to the 7 buttons [haven't figured THAT one out yet - where's the 8th button?] and the icons showed up.  But not the right icons.

[bunkley32]

I think i almost have this thing figured out...I figured out how to modify the sample skins and import them to my clie. keep in mind that i dont speak a lick of japanees so these directions are just what ive come up with by playing around.

To Modify a plugin skin.

1) Open the wondermaker app.
2) Open the directory on your PC that contains the samples plugins.
3) Drag and drop one of the samples onto the wondermaker app...this will populate wondermaker app with all the components of that sample.
4) click on the components accross the bottom that you wish to change or move. to change a component you simply need to click on it and then drag and drop any .bmp from your PC. (the wondermaker app came with some to test with)
5) once you have all the changes made that you want to make click on the large button on the right side of the wondermaker app. It is the second button from the top. (it is labled ??... on my computer cause i dont have any language packs installed)
6) This will bring up a windows save popup box... save the file as whatever you like as long as you keep the .wsb extension
7) Create a \palm\programs\wondersilk directory on your memory stick
8) use ms import to copy your .wsb file onto your ms in the wondersilk directory.
9) open the wondersilk app on your clie
10) click on the menu and select the first option
11) you will then be able to see the new skin that you put in your wondersilk directory... make sure it has a check mark next to it and tap the button in the bottom center of the screen.... this will import the new silk plugin skin.
12) it will then be added to your list of available skins on the main screen
13) select it as you would any other skin and you are good to go

Hope this helps...sorry i dont have any more details but this is the best i can piece together... maybe someone else can fill in the fine details..


:D

[drdar]

can someone explain what a silk is and how it works..

[hansschmucker]

Use the CliéSource search function

[*YellowRose*]

This sounds really awesome!

[Noodles Hovar]

Is this at all a "go" for NR70/V????

[GoldenTiger]

Originally posted by Noodles Hovar
Is this at all a "go" for NR70/V????

 

No.

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by Noodles Hovar
Is this at all a "go" for NR70/V???? Maybe this could be your 'excuse' to upgrade?  (C'mon, EVERYBODY has one!) ;) :D

[xlr8]

Looks like some people havent been looking hard enough, anyone who want the EN version, please thank nxt (its on his website :P)

The address is:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nXtClieClub/files/

I'm sure you can all find the correct file but theres many other excellent ones as well

[OcellNuri]

xlr8, this is a different set of plugins. What is being discussed here is much more powerful. Thanks for the link though, and if anyone hasn't checked out those SilkPlugins yet, you've gotta check them out. I use the Calculator plugin every now and then to do calculations while writing notes with Graffiti Anywhere.

[jbarr]

Originally posted by bunkley32
I think i almost have this thing figured out...I figured out how to modify the sample skins and import them to my clie. keep in mind that i dont speak a lick of japanees so these directions are just what ive come up with by playing around.

To Modify a plugin skin.

<snip>

Hope this helps...sorry i dont have any more details but this is the best i can piece together... maybe someone else can fill in the fine details..


:D Excellent!

Now, if we can only get an "English" OS version that eliminates the four Japanese buttons and properly aligns the Graffiti area.

Thanks for your efforts on this!!!!!!!!!

[Unregistered]

I thought it was because the US OS cant support all those extra buttons the Jap OS has, hopefully we can get the full suport one

[bunkley32]

Originally posted by jbarr
Excellent!

Now, if we can only get an "English" OS version that eliminates the four Japanese buttons and properly aligns the Graffiti area.

Thanks for your efforts on this!!!!!!!!!


You can actually change those four buttons to launch whatever app you want... can even change the icon to whatever you want...still having trouble with the grafitti alignment though

[jbarr]

OK, I pretty much figured out the program, and re-worked one of the Plug-in templates.

The template maps the four core app hard buttons and the hard up.down button at the top of the Graffiti area. It maps the Audio Player buttons (with Volume +/-) in the middle, and it maps 5 buttons to the bottom. The five buttons need to be defined from within the WonderSilk app. The left and right stuff is pretty much the same except that I removed the "Soft Reset" button. Also, the upper right silk button is a "Keyboard" button. Not sure of its function, so I re-mapped the function to open the calculator.

I "overcame" the Japanese Graffiti layout by kinda fudging things a bit. First, I deleted the four Japanese buttons. Next, I made the Graffiti area Grey and made the entire Silk Base graphic Grey. Finally, I "eyeballed" the position of the center Graffiti divider line and moved it to the right a bit. It still behaves the same except that there is no "interference" from the Japanese buttons, and the graffiti area looks uniform.

The only anomily is if you write in the far right of the grafiti area, the "trail" doesn't erase, but if the Virtual Graffiti area is collapsed or ig you toggle the "Graffiti on/off" button on the right, it will clear it up.

So, click <here (http://www.g04.com/html/files/WDilkENGTest.zip)> to download the .zip file. It contains the two modified graphics as well as the .wsb template file and the installable .PDB file.

I will gladly rework this more as needed.

It's now 2:00am, and I need some sleep!

Have fun!

[xlr8]

It doesnt seem to recognise it on my palm OS sim even with silk manager, any ideas?

[bunkley32]

here's another one

www.jntfoster.com/WonderSilk5.zip

[ilkera]

I could not understand the reason for these pdb files.
Are they for different looks on wondersilk ?
and how can we edit those wsb files ?
Is there an english version of the managing application of WonderSilk ?

[hansschmucker]

About the application launcher. It's quite simple: a) launch the app you want to be linked to a certain button, then just hit that button and it will say save info, the next time you hit the button, your programm will come up. In case you accidently already saved some applications to buttons (most likely your launcher), just start Filez and look through the prefs: At the very bottom you will find some settings with wslk ID, delete them and you are ready to assign new applications to the buttons

[hansschmucker]

Did anybody at all find the English version at nxt's

[GoldenTiger]

Originally posted by jbarr
OK, I pretty much figured out the program, and re-worked one of the Plug-in templates.

The template maps the four core app hard buttons and the hard up.down button at the top of the Graffiti area. It maps the Audio Player buttons (with Volume +/-) in the middle, and it maps 5 buttons to the bottom. The five buttons need to be defined from within the WonderSilk app. The left and right stuff is pretty much the same except that I removed the "Soft Reset" button. Also, the upper right silk button is a "Keyboard" button. Not sure of its function, so I re-mapped the function to open the calculator.

I "overcame" the Japanese Graffiti layout by kinda fudging things a bit. First, I deleted the four Japanese buttons. Next, I made the Graffiti area Grey and made the entire Silk Base graphic Grey. Finally, I "eyeballed" the position of the center Graffiti divider line and moved it to the right a bit. It still behaves the same except that there is no "interference" from the Japanese buttons, and the graffiti area looks uniform.

The only anomily is if you write in the far right of the grafiti area, the "trail" doesn't erase, but if the Virtual Graffiti area is collapsed or ig you toggle the "Graffiti on/off" button on the right, it will clear it up.

So, click &lt;here (http://www.g04.com/html/files/WDilkENGTest.zip)&gt; to download the .zip file. It contains the two modified graphics as well as the .wsb template file and the installable .PDB file.

I will gladly rework this more as needed.

It's now 2:00am, and I need some sleep!

Have fun!

&nbsp;

Can&nbsp; you "clean up" functions2btnsilk and leave the background intact? GREAT work on the other skin!

How do I change what app a button is bound to once I bind it on the buttons of the skin? I tried reinstalling the skin but to no avail...

[alexlwf]

This silk plug-in is really great!!!

Actually, is it that there are 2 types of NX Rom (Jap & Eng) only?

At the graffiti area where the keyboard icon is pressed, is there any font/program that can display the weird character(Jap Font) to Jap Character in Eng Rom?

[GoldenTiger]

Can you change the buttons in the skin you modded (wdilkengtest.zip) 1 through 5 to launch apps of someone's choosing like the other buttons do? They're useless to me with their current function :). Also, can you change the number pad area to be a calculator like tap pad (1-9, . / - +, *, x)? Do that and it's my dream skin!

[mrbjg4]

This is a cool and overdue tool. Couple of questions. I have modified a template and some of the buttons work. I see the palm screen which shows a list of 8 apps, which look like a way to map buttons, but I can't seem to get all of them to work. While I was messing around in the beginning I saw the "Save appinfo!" prompts, but I can't seem to remember where that was. Is this a way to map buttons? My test skin wsb file is at

http://www.mrbjg.com/ffiles.htm "NX SKIN"

Thanks
BG

[GoldenTiger]

I can't figure out the WonderMaker app at all... can someone post a graphic picture of what each button in the app does, and info on how to open a template, save, and use one?

[deadlyfoez]

I can't seem to get this to work. I tried d/l WonderSilk5.zip, installed it, did a soft reset, and it didn't do a thing. It's not showing up under the silkmanager or anywhere on my device. I can locate the files in Clie Files, but thats it.

I don't have an rar extractor, so I can't use those files.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME

[GoldenTiger]

There's an application on your clie now called WONDER SILK. It has an icon of the graffiti area. MAKE SURE ALL FILES ARE INSTALLED TO RAM, NOT THE MEMORY STICK. From there, select the skin you want from the list with the checkbox, and click the large oval button in the top row in the bottom right (rightmost button). That activates the skin. Then go into Silk Manager and select "Wonder Skin".

[deadlyfoez]

I cannot find the wondersilk app

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by deadlyfoez
I cannot find the wondersilk app Go to the link on the first post.&nbsp; Click on the little floppy disk icon beside the title of the program.

[Sieve]

Can you guys post some pictures? Love to see the new app and how others use it...

[deadlyfoez]

I got it working. It looks awesome, but impossible to fully figure out. I will pay BIG $$$ to whoever fully translates the code and documentation.

[bunkley32]

Here's another one...if anyone has any specific requests for one of these skins...let me know and Ill see what I can do...

www.jntfoster.com/WonderSilk6.zip

[Kaz]

Maybe I can help you to figure out how to use WonderSilk and WonderMaker. I am using NX70(JP) and started to use WonderSilk a week ago. I tried to change graffiti area with my original picture by using WonderMaker.

Both are great freeware for NX70/NX60 and NZ90.
As you know, Wondersilk and Kikumaru(comes with WonderSilk) is a plug-in and application to change silk skins and application launches.
After activated WonderSilk from Silk button in the status bar,
Kikumaru(application with slik skin icon) functions followings;
from main screen
select skin database
change tracing color of stylus
define 5 shortcut text
delete skin(left button)
display db name or file name(top right check box)
from menu
read silk data(*.wsb)from /Palm/Programs/WonderSilk
selecting Japanese Character input panel(no need for you)
launcher definitions (upto 8)
delete SP text buffer(extra text buffer area for copy/paste)
about
The latest version is WonderSilk1.12 and Kikumaru1.10.

You can create your own skin by WonderMaker.
Wsb files comes with WonderMaker are template you can modify.
WonderMaker can uses;
original images: 320x130 for back ground, 188x126 for graffiti
upto 40 buttons alignment and selecting functions
(this is tough for you because pull down menu is Japanese)
create wsb file for sending into memory stick
After creating/modifying skin, save as wsb file (top right box is for silk name, and large button in the middle right is save button).
Put it into /Palm/Programs/WonderSilk.
Read it from Kikumaru by first command from menu to convert to prc file(saved on Clie).
Select the silk from Kikumaru main screen.

Try to make your own skins!

[deadlyfoez]

All normal graffiti functions, eg. home,calc,so on and so forth.
Top of graffiti, cut, copy, past
Bottom of graffiti, icons for clie quicklaunch(if you understand what I mean(romote,clie memo, ect..))
Right of calc and find buttons, mp3 controls.
Still maintain letter input graffiti area, but have button input for numers.
To the left of calc and find buttons, have mathamatical opperaters(+,-,*,/)
to the left of home and list buttons, have hardkeys, (address,todo, ect.)
And add a lcd for the calc to do math in graffiti area.

[mrbjg4]

Does anybody know if it's possible to add function buttons to the PC app workspace and assign function on the NX, without using Japanese pulldown menu on the PC app? I added some buttons, but can't seem to assign them a function. Also, what is the 8 item list on the NX for assigning functions? Is the functionality limited to 8 or 40 buttons. I don't get it.

Thanks
mrbjg4

[deadlyfoez]

Can anyone make that

[bunkley32]

Originally posted by deadlyfoez
All normal graffiti functions, eg. home,calc,so on and so forth.
Top of graffiti, cut, copy, past
Bottom of graffiti, icons for clie quicklaunch(if you understand what I mean(romote,clie memo, ect..))
Right of calc and find buttons, mp3 controls.
Still maintain letter input graffiti area, but have button input for numers.
To the left of calc and find buttons, have mathamatical opperaters(+,-,*,/)
to the left of home and list buttons, have hardkeys, (address,todo, ect.)
And add a lcd for the calc to do math in graffiti area.

from what i can tell the program can assign math function symbols to buttons but it is only text...not actual math functions...but i could be wrong...

[deadlyfoez]

No, no, no, that was what I was suggesting for a skin, I'm sorry for the confusion

But, I'm hoping that is all possible

[bunkley32]

Originally posted by deadlyfoez
No, no, no, that was what I was suggesting for a skin, I'm sorry for the confusion

But, I'm hoping that is all possible

I have been able to set the skin up pretty much how you want it... but i dont think the math functions are possible...or at least i cant figure it out...

[Kaz]

Originally posted by mrbjg4
Does anybody know if it's possible to add function buttons to the PC app workspace and assign function on the NX, without using Japanese pulldown menu on the PC app? I added some buttons, but can't seem to assign them a function. Also, what is the 8 item list on the NX for assigning functions? Is the functionality limited to 8 or 40 buttons. I don't get it.


No. To assign functions (up to 8), you need to select Application 1 to 8 at the last items from pulldown menu on WonderMaker.
If the function buttons select Application 1 to 8 from pulldown menu, each function buttons are defined by launcher setting in Kinumaru on NX. i.e. Application 1 = Kunumaru Launcher 1

WonderMaker on PC is just for silk screen layout and function assignment except user launching definition.
User launching definition is set by Kinumaru on NX application.
It is limited to 8.

Up to 40 items can be aligned on silk screen.

[Kaz]

Following web site has a lot of information for creating original silk skins and providing templates and components for icons, graffiti and so on.
The web is in Japanese, but please try to download if you want to modify skins.

http://www.treasure-ways.com/ (Japanese Only)

Skin templates
BkackNeo Skin http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9519
(no graffiti changes)
AquaDisp Skin http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9521
(collapsed graffiti area to align more buttons)
Metal http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9522
(hidden graffiti initially and metallic appearance)

Components
Basics http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9520
10 keys http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9523
Graffiti http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9524

If you are interested in how to use them and create your original silk skins, please refer to attached.

For button images, you may realize two buttons in each image.
Regarding button spec, I will introduce if requested.

[Kaz]

I supposed to attach followings.

Followings are advises from Mr.koby, the site owner.
1.Basic procedure to create skins
-Select template skin (.wsb) and drop WonderMaker on the PC
-Click one of the gray box (00 to 39 in the bottom half)
-Drag icon image from above components to the gray box to assign button icon
-Select the function of the button from pull down menu
Menu
Applications
Keyboard
Find
Calculator
Graffiti help
Alpha Keyboard
Numeric Keyboard
Back light ON/OFF
Translate (Japanese)
Execute (Japanese)
Japanese character (Japanese)
JP/EN (Japanese)
Brightness
Up
Down
Hardware button 1 to 4
Play (Audio)
REW (Audio)
FF (Audio)
Stop (Audio)
Volume down (Audio)
Volume up (Audio)
Keyboard silk change
Soft reset
SP text copy
SP text paste
Hide Graffiti
Show Graffiti
Graffiti Show/Hide
Previous application
User text definition 1 to 5
Application 1 to 8
-Align the button position on the silk skin
-Repeat button definitions as many you want up to 40
-Change silk name on upper right box and click large button middle right to create .wbs file
-Store .wbs file on /Palm/Programs/WonderSilk
-Run Kinumaru, Clie application with Silk screen icon
-From Menu, tap first item (/I) to load silk name you just created
(converting .wbs file to .prc file and saving on Clie)
-Return main screen on Kinumaru and tap the silk name and large button on bottom right, then you will get new silk skin
(Make sure you have selected WonderSilk plug in from silk plug in button on the status bar)

2.Erasing Japanese/English translation buttons
You don't need J/E buttons, so please delete them from WonderMaker.
To erase buttons from template, select button from the gray box, and click the bottom button on the three buttons on bottom right.

3.WonderMaker functions
From upper right,
-Silk name box
-Graffiti tracing color
-Check box for hiding graffiti initially (you can show graffiti)
-Create to save silk data by .wbs file
-Graffiti image delete button
-Base background image delete button
-Selected icon delete button (deleting icon image and its function)
-Check box for frame display and its color (good for no graffiti case)
-Check box for hiding graffiti
-Quit(Q) button (no warning for unsaved data, make sure you have saved)
-4 gray boxes to define button images and functions
-Pull down (small) for selecting icon display
*display icon all time
*display icon when graffiti is displayed
*display icon when graffiti is not displayed
-Pull down (large) for selecting functions (refer to 1.)

[pghart]

Here's my contribution, first attempt at TapPad functionality.. I'll refine it later.. but it is possible.

Click here (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/pghart/wonderskin/shrugcalc1.prc)

[MythoFactory]

why the buttons reaction delay is so long?... almost 1 sec. between the tap and the reaction... coding problem?

[GoldenTiger]

How'd you do the tappad?

[Sieve]

I have pics for everybody but I guess something has changed & we cannot load images or zips anymore... WTF?

[GoldenTiger]

Email them to me at the address in my profile and I'll post them for you on my web hosting space.

[unKown]

Number 8th App Button is a Clalc Icon.
Japanese Clie has no Calc SilkButton.

[pghart]

GoldenTiger,

I took the unused Japanese buttons and used them as the number pad functions. If you go through the list of items you'll see all the number pad functions grouped together.

[jbarr]

I just received a reply to an inquity from "Koby" at www.treasure-ways.com, and he supplied me with a link to a web page he put together explaining the process of creating a WonderSkin using WonderMaker.

Lots of nice pictures!

http://www.treasure-ways.com/koby/forE/HowtoWonderSilkMaking.html

[jbarr]

OK, here's a skin called "WSilkTaPad" which can be found <here (http://www.g04.com/files/WSilkTaPad.zip)>.

Among other things, it has:
-a numeric keypad defined over the Graffiti Number area, with the copy/paste buttons above.
-MP3 controls
-Apps & Menu "Silk" buttons
-Calculator button
-The 4 "hard" buttons with up/down arrows
-and seven (anaddition to the "Calc" button) user-definable buttons.

A screenshot is in the ClieSource Screenshot Gallery located <here (http://www.cliesource.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=300&papass=&sort=1&thecat=506)>

Let me know what you think.

Enjoy!

[GoldenTiger]

<PRE>How did you get the screenshot? Any time I try on my skins the graffiti is left out with the screenshot programs I have tried on my NX70V.</PRE>

[jbarr]

I would have bet money that you were going to ask that!!!!! ;)

Simple. Don't do it on the Clie! Do it on your Desktop.

I downloaded the Sony Clie Palm OS 5 Simulator from the Sony Development site. This is NOT the standard Pam OS 5 Simulator, but the NX series simulator. It can be found at this location: http://www.us.sonypdadev.com/develop_tool/simulator.html

Read what you want and scroll to the bottom and click on "Agree" to download it.

Just unzip the file into a directory of your choice and execute the simulator. When prompted for the ROM, just navigate to the "enUS" directory and select it.

Once running, it's just a matter of dragging and dropping a .prc or .pdb file onto the running simulator to install.

Execute the WonderSilk program normally and activate it with the Silk Plug-in screen.

Finally, I use the program "HardCopy" from www.hardcopy.de. It has a nice option of allowing you to screen capture a user-defined "rectangle" of the screen and save it to a file.

Save the resulting file, and you are good to go!

Good luck!

[pghart]

HRCAPDA will capture the graffiti area.

[jbarr]

pghart: Can you please provide a link to HRCAPDA? Neither PalmGear nor Google return any hits.

Thanks!

[pghart]

JBarr,

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/fairy/chimera/Onl_OthersPalm.html#Anchor-HRCapt

It's japanese, downloads are on the right.

There is an app and a DA, install both, goto the app and set it up to write to your MS. There is a setting on the quality of BMPs to write. Call your favorite DA launcher and call HRCAPDA.. go back to the app to preview it..

[GoldenTiger]

Ah, I finally made the skin I want :). I love the blue number buttons... figured them out with that english translation of the functions. Smoothed the edges of the graphics some and antialiased them and they look great! Took me awhile, though... your link was broken to the .prc of the skin that you had zipped, so I had to do it from scratch with nothing to compare to :(.

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by GoldenTiger
Ah, I finally made the skin I want :). I love the blue number buttons... figured them out with that english translation of the functions. Smoothed the edges of the graphics some and antialiased them and they look great! Took me awhile, though... your link was broken to the .prc of the skin that you had zipped, so I had to do it from scratch with nothing to compare to :(.

Why don't you post a pic of what you created.
I would be interested in seeing it.

[rldunn]

You can get an English version of HRCaptDA in a Zip file at Brian Spradlin's site (www.launchplug.com). I highly recommend it for screenshots.

[jbarr]

Originally posted by GoldenTiger
Took me awhile, though... your link was broken to the .prc of the skin that you had zipped, so I had to do it from scratch with nothing to compare to :(. Hmmm. I may have made a typo. The link looks good now. Please let me know if you still have problems.

Thanks!

[ddsmith]

Thanks to everybody for getting us all of the details. This is a great addition to the NX70. It would be great if there was a wondersilk addition to the silkskin files section so we can all share.

I love the WSilkENGTest skin.

[GoldenTiger]

I can't get screenshot taking to work yet... I'll post a screenie once I can though :).

[*YellowRose*]

Okay.&nbsp; I love the WsilkTaPad, but I can't figure out why my app button assignments aren't sticking.&nbsp; I'm getting the 'Save App Info!' note, and I do it twice for each one, but when I try it again later, just going through all the apps, the red book &amp; handstory and world icons don't stick.

What am I doing wrong?&nbsp; Other than that, the skin is AMAZING!!&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks for your help!

Thanks jbarr for the heads up, and all the rest of you for tinkering so wonderfully!

[*YellowRose*]

And I forgot to mention, I think my favorite thing about this app is the ability to change the 'pen' color in the graffiti area!&nbsp; Too Cool!

[Kaz]

*YellowRose*

If you cannot stick your original icon button on WonderMaler, the icon image is probably wrong.
According to the author memo of Wondermaker, icon button images should be as follows.

- image file is .bmp
- max size is 320x130
- button image should have two buttons, top for normal, bottom for pen down (i.e. 40x30 button should be 40x60 image)
- non transparent icon(squares) has even number pixels in height
- transparent icon should have one pixel horizontal line in the bottom of image so that it becomes odd number pixels in height (i.e. 40x20 button should be 40x61 image)
- background color of transparent icon should be the same color as bottom line of the image

Good luck!luckl

[jbarr]

I think that one point to note is that the "skin" defines that buttons can be defined but they must ultimatly be associated wiith apps from within the WonderSilk app, itself.

OK, that probably didn't make sense. What I mean is that once you load a skin that has buttons defined to launch apps, you still need to go into the WonderSilk app and set the associations.

To do this, you launch the WonderSilk app, open the Menu and tap on the third choice. It's the one labeled "f o/oo f..."This opens a window. From here, you select one of the bottons and an app picker pops up. Select the app you want to associate. Do this for as many definable buttons that are on the skin.

For example, the skin I created (WSilkTaPad) has 8 buttons over on the right. The top one is the Voice Recorder button, the next is the Movie Player button, etc.

Voice Recorder Icon: Button 1
Movie Player icon: Button 2
Movie Player icon: Button 3
Audio Player icon: Button 4
Calc Button: NOTE: This button is defined as the "Calc" Silk screen button. What this means is that whatever you have associated with the "Calc" button in the System Preferences is the app that will launch here. This is NOT a user-definable button. Sorry if this is confusing.
"Book" icon: Button 5
HandStory icon: Button 6
Globe icon: Button 7

So, you just associate whatever apps you want with each of these buttons.

This was just a proof of concept (and a damn fine one if I can toot my own horn) so the icons could really be anything you want. I was thinking of trying to use "generic" icons, or maybe just associate them with the internal Clie apps.

In any case, I hope you "get it" now how to define these buttons.

Oh, and just so you know, once they are defined in the WonderSilk app, they "stay" defined until you re-define them. So if you change your Silk PlugIn back to the Standard Input and then back to WonderSilk, nothing is lost.

Further, if you load in another "skin" the definitions remain. This could get confusing, but hey, this is so cool. who cares, right?!?

[xlr8]

Either way i want an english wondersilk program or a english skin to use that doesnt have americaness associated with it (sorry, but the rest of the skin is damn cool). I think we should also have a wondersilk category in the VG skins area, anyone know who to ask for it?

[n0m0n]

jbarr

What yoiu discribe sounds great.
Now how can one se what yoiu are discribing?
Do you have any pictures of it?
Can you download any picutres of your creations?
Thanks

[jbarr]

Guys, I REALLY hate to tease you like this, but the author emailed me a copy of the English version of the WonderMaker program as well as the "Kinumaru" program (the Silk manager on the Palm.), but he didn't specify if I could freely re-distribute it. I'm waiting to hear back from him. Unfortunatly, there's the lag time between Chigago and Japan. If it's OK, I will post it on my web site.

PLEASE be patient!

[jbarr]

Originally posted by n0m0n
jbarr

What yoiu discribe sounds great.
Now how can one se what yoiu are discribing?
Do you have any pictures of it?
Can you download any picutres of your creations?
Thanks Go up one level in this forum to the topics list snd look on the left side of this forum for the "Gallery" and click on "Screenshots". Or just click <here (http://www.cliesource.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=300&papass=&sort=1&thecat=506)>

Remember, even though the hot is a proof of concept, it is FULLY functional!

[GoldenTiger]

<PRE>Bump!</PRE>

[jbarr]

Originally posted by GoldenTiger
Can you ask the author if it's ok to redistribute the program along with skins as a courtesy so that people don't have to go searching for it? I just emailed Japan and we'll see.

I have to go to bed because I have to get up early tomorrow. I'll keep you all posted in the Morning!

[GoldenTiger]

I have a problem... whenever I try and drag number icons into the wonder maker, the third number doesn't appear on-screen and the location coordinates it says it's at I can't touch (beneath the location marker) :(! Someone please help...

[GoldenTiger]

Thanks for all the info on how to use it, guys!

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by jbarr
To do this, you launch the WonderSilk app, open the Menu and tap on the third choice. It's the one labeled "f o/oo f..."This opens a window. From here, you select one of the bottons and an app picker pops up. Select the app you want to associate. Do this for as many definable buttons that are on the skin. This paragraph clarified everything.&nbsp; D'oh!&nbsp;&nbsp; Got it set up the way I want it!&nbsp; I didn't 'get' that you had to do both.&nbsp; It's kind of a bummer you have to have anything you want to use in main ram tho . . .

When you mentioned you've got English versions of the apps, is that BOTH apps?&nbsp; I hope so . . . Wondermaker was COMPLETELY confusing.&nbsp; (and of course, the fact that I'm easily confused doesn't help either . . . ;))

[jbarr]

Originally posted by GoldenTiger
I have a problem... whenever I try and drag number icons into the wonder maker, the third number doesn't appear on-screen and the location coordinates it says it's at I can't touch (beneath the location marker) :(! Someone please help... I'm pretty sure this is because it is designed to work with the Japanese OS version. Notice that the actual size of the Graffiti area on the Japanese OS is smaller tham on the English version. When you run a skin on the English version, the Graffiti area gets shifted to the left to where it normally is on the English version, but that overlaps "outside" on the Japanese version.

Not sure if this is the actual explanation or just speculation, but it seems to make sense. We'll see how the English version reacts when it is released.

[jbarr]

I received a reply from "Koby" of www.treasure-ways.com. He is NOT the author of WonderSilk/Maker. He requested that I not pass along the English version because it is still buggy. Though I would really like to do otherwise, I really have to respect his requests on this one. He said that the final English version release is coming very very soon.

As for distribution, Koby is not the author, so I have to contact the author directly. I emailed who I think is the author (ZJ2T-OCAI@asahi-net.or.jp) but I'm not sure if this is the correct address. Can someone confirm this?

Suffice it to say, progress is being made quickly.

Stay tuned, and please try to be patient.

[jbarr]

I put together two pages that show what the English version looks like. Until it is realesed, at least it will help you understand the function of the Japanese version. (Note that the English WonderMaker screen has some different buttons/dropdowns, and some of the components are still buggy.)

1. Kinumaru (WonderSilk) screenshots: <click here (http://www.g04.com/kinumaru)>

2. WonderMaker screenshot: <click here (http://www.g04.com/WonderMaker)>

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by jbarr
I received a reply from "Koby" of www.treasure-ways.com. He is NOT the author of WonderSilk/Maker. He requested that I not pass along the English version because it is still buggy. Though I would really like to do otherwise, I really have to respect his requests on this one. He said that the final English version release is coming very very soon. Cool.&nbsp; It's good to know they're working on it.&nbsp; I'm very happy with the results I've gotten with the non-Eng version, so I can be patient.

jbarr . . . have you considered making a 'tip' in the tips and tricks section ... maybe a step by step for people new to&nbsp;the program?&nbsp; You seem to be most familiar with the program.

[stronggeek]

Jbarr,

Great job with everything! I am currenty using your layout with some of the earlier silk plugins like the clock and calculator with use of codediver as suggested by Ridunn. Definitely like to be able to change virtual layouts, start sizes and backrounds.

These two apps easily add value and use to an already invaluable machine.

Thanks to both you and Ridunn!

Stronggeek

[jbarr]

Man, I really hate to be a tease, but...;)

Here's an example of an English skin. It's very simple: Just three Silk buttons, a brightness control, large MP3 controls, and a slightly modified Graffiti area.

Download it <here (http://www.g04.com/files/MP3_Skin.PDB)>

Screenshot <here (http://www.g04.com/files/MP3Skin.jpg)>

Enjoy!

[*YellowRose*]

What is 'User Defined Strings' used for?

[jbarr]

You can include in a skin up to 5 buttons that, when tapped, will paste text (defined in the Kinumaru program) into whatever field you are editing.

Just like all the other functions, they are not all defined on each skin--it's up to the skin developer to determine what functionality the skin has.

[Massman82]

I am a little late to this but...

Would it be possible to add other functionality to the program a little later on?

Such as:

AIM in there so that you could use a browser and chat at the same time.
Bejeweled or some simple game there so you could play it whenever you want.

[Bbunch]

I know everyone is busy but if anyone has a few extra minutes I would appreciate the help..

Being a newbe to using "Skins" I seem to be totally upside down on what files to load and how to use them..

I downloaded the 6 files from the original Post and the WonderSilk site. I also downloaded some other files from subsequent posts.

I can see the new ICON, on my unit it is labeled CE|SU. I can launch it and see a list of "Skins"? and WonderSilk6. I clicked the upper right box and was able to change the language to Eng. I can check the box next to WonderSilk6 then tap on the large oval and see the diamond move next to the box that was checked. After a soft reset I don’t see any other new icons.

I guess my question is now what?? How do I actually execute the app or skin??

Also, in some of the down loads there are files with the extension .WSB what are they for??

Thanks in advance for all your help..

[jbarr]

Did you tap on the "Silk Plug-in" button (4th button from the left on the bottom status bar) and activate the new Plug-in called "WonderSilk"?

[jbarr]

The .WSB files get loaded onto the Memory Stick using something like MSImport. They go into the /PALM/Programs/wondersilk/ directory. Then, when you tap on the "Skin Import" menu option (the top option) it will be visible. Just tap on the "Import" button (2nd from the left on the bottom) and it will create a .PDB file on your handheld from the .WSB file.

Finally, you select the newly imported skin and tap on the "Assign" button (Big one on the right.)

If you have the WonderSilk Silk Plug-in selected, your Virtual Graffiti area should reflect the new skin.

[jbarr]

Here's another English version skin I put together. it incorporates the four "hard" buttons and the "hard" up/down buttons into the Graffiti area. The Graffiti area graphic has been drawn to "flow" around the buttons.

Otherwise, basically the same as my last posting.

Download it <here (http://www.g04.com/html/files/MP3_Skin5.PDB)>

Screenshot <here (http://www.g04.com/html/files/MP3_Skin5.jpg)>

[GoldenTiger]

Anything from the author?

[Bbunch]

Thanks for newbe help.. All of the information provided was great&nbsp;and just what I needed to get started..

&nbsp;

I appreciate&nbsp;your time and effort..

[Tixx]

Interesting

[kmf]

Maybe I missed it, but are the controls for the mp3 player supposed to work outside Audioplayer? Doesn't seem to work when I try it, making the controls pretty much useless, right?

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by kmf
Maybe I missed it, but are the controls for the mp3 player supposed to work outside Audioplayer? Doesn't seem to work when I try it, making the controls pretty much useless, right? It should work as long as you have it set to play in the background . . .

[kmf]

Originally posted by *YellowRose*
It should work as long as you have it set to play in the background . . .

Thanks a lot... I knew I missed something...

[euroclie]

I know that this will certainly be useless as the author is going to release an English version of the WonderSilk utilities, according to jbarr, but meanwhile, for those who prefer to use an English localized version of the WonderSilk manager program (Kinumaru in Japanese), you can download an English overlay here:
English overlay for Kinumaru v1.10 (http://euroclie.free.fr/Download/Kinumaru_enUS.zip)

Be aware that this overlay file is version-dependant, so it will only work with the current (1.10) Japanese version of Kinumaru. Also, I don't understand much Japanese, I mostly worked with BabelFish's online translator and using common sense, but English is not my native language, so if some menus, buttons or strings do not seem right to you, do not hesitate to let me know, updating the overlay file is very easy.

Installation: unzip the Kinumaru_enUS.prc file on your hard drive, then install it in RAM where the Kinumaru.prc file should already be.

One word of caution, though: it only works for US devices. If you own a different version of NX device (European, for instance), nothing will happen and the program will still display garbage due to the Japanese character set encoding. Just let me know and I'll release the appropriate overlay file.

A preview of the result is available here (http://euroclie.free.fr/Download/kinumaru.gif).

Hope this helps, happy Wondersilking to all! :)

[GoldenTiger]

The translation's great!

[OgNar]

Hey, yeah thanks. I thought that was the delete button. :D

[xlr8]

Does the english skinmaker mean we can get the normal keyboard instead of japanese. Thats the only thing stopping me from putting wondersilk on my palm. Also, jbarr, as feedback the the most recent skin, whats the point of having mp3 controls when you have a remote? I suppose it make some sense but they should be smaller like your earlier skins IMHO

[jbarr]

Originally posted by xlr8
Does the english skinmaker mean we can get the normal keyboard instead of japanese. Thats the only thing stopping me from putting wondersilk on my palm. Also, jbarr, as feedback the the most recent skin, whats the point of having mp3 controls when you have a remote? I suppose it make some sense but they should be smaller like your earlier skins IMHO 1. If you are refering to the heyboard that replaces the Virtual Graffiti area when a keyboard is tapped, right now, the English version pops up a Japanese keyboard. One of the keyboards available is a qwerty keyboard, but it does have additional Japanese buttons. If you are refering to the keyboard that pops up on the screen when you tap tha "alpha" or "numeric" buttons, those pop up the standard English keyboards.

2. The point of the MP3 controls is to provide another way to easily control MP3 playback from any app. Personally, I haven't used the remote control since I go the Clie because I tend to just hit "play" and be done with it. Besides, it's kinda cool! ;) As for the size, again, that's the cool thing about this app: it doesn't matter what buttons you use, they can be big or small. It just depends on what you want the focus of the skin to be. You could even create new buttons at whatever size you want (I did that). They are nothing more than standard .bmp graphic files. For me, larger buttons are easier to hit with my fingertip.

[jbarr]

Originally posted by GoldenTiger
Anything from the author? Just received his reply this morning:


Hello! Jim

I am Chime of the author of WonderSilk.

>Hi!
>
>I am trying to locate the author of the WonderSilk/Maker program.
>Are you the author?

Yes. I made WonderSilk (,Kinu-maru and WonderMaker).

>I live in Chicago, USA, and I found your WonderSilk program on your web site.
>This program is VERY good! A number of people at the www.cliesource.com forum
>think your program is excellent and would like to see an English version that is
>compatible with the Palm OS English version.

Thank you for praising WonderSilk.
I am glad to have many people get interested.

>I have been communicating with "Koby" at www.treasure-ways.com, and he emailed me
>a beta English version. It works very well.
>
>I have two questions for you:
>
>1. When do you anticipate that the English final version will be ready? I would
>like to encourage English users to download it, but Koby told me not to
>distribute the version he emailed because it is has bugs in it.

It can be likely to provide by few days. However, the date cannot be
promised positively.

>2. If we create skins, can we distribute the WonderSilk and Kinumaru programs
>with the skins that we create? This would make it easier for users.

It is nonpermissible to distribute WonderSilk etc. with a skin. It is
because WonderSilk contained in the summarized inside is not always
the newest version. The situation may become the cause by which a user
gets confused.

>I look forward to your reply.
>
>Thank you for producing an excellent program!
>
>-Jim
>

Thank you.

Chime[/FONT]

I replied back to him asking if I can post the beta version, and am waiting for his reply.

[euroclie]

It is nonpermissible to distribute WonderSilk etc. with a skin. It is because WonderSilk contained in the summarized inside is not always the newest version. The situation may become the cause by which a user gets confused.
It makes sense, of course. I think a better idea would be to attach a small text file with some explanations about where to find the WonderSilk / Kinumaru programs, and (very briefly) how to use them...

That way people can easily get to the latest version of WonderSilk / Kinumaru, and also skin-hungry users won't have to download those programs each time they download a new or updated skin! ;)

BTW, jbarr, since you have a beta of the English version of those programs, can you please have a quick look at my localizer to check if I did not make any big translation mistake? It won't matter as soon as the English version is released, I'll probably stop hosting the localizer, but until that moment if the overlay may be usefull to the creative guys here, I'd hate to cause trouble if there's a badly translated string that confuse people instead of helping them! You can have a look here: http://euroclie.free.fr/Download/kinumaru.gif, this contains most of the forms and menus (although not the alert dialog boxes)...

TIA!

[xlr8]

I meant the keyboard in the VG area, any info on whether you can get the standard english one? (with the en version perhaps?)

[GoldenTiger]

Bump!

[jbarr]

Originally posted by euroclie
BTW, jbarr, since you have a beta of the English version of those programs, can you please have a quick look at my localizer to check if I did not make any big translation mistake? It won't matter as soon as the English version is released, I'll probably stop hosting the localizer, but until that moment if the overlay may be usefull to the creative guys here, I'd hate to cause trouble if there's a badly translated string that confuse people instead of helping them! You can have a look here: http://euroclie.free.fr/Download/kinumaru.gif, this contains most of the forms and menus (although not the alert dialog boxes)...

TIA! euroclie:

Check out one of my posts above. or just click <here (http://www.g04.com/kinumaru)> for screenshots of Kinumaru (WonderSilk) and <here (http://www.g04.com/WonderMaker)> for screenshots of WonderMaker.

[frasej]

Originally posted by euroclie
[B]I know that this will certainly be useless as the author is going to release an English version of the WonderSilk utilities, according to jbarr, but meanwhile, for those who prefer to use an English localized version of the WonderSilk manager program (Kinumaru in Japanese), you can download an English overlay here:
English overlay for Kinumaru v1.10 (http://euroclie.free.fr/Download/Kinumaru_enUS.zip)


The overlay is great.&nbsp; I have one question though, every time I click the Assign button, the silk that I've picked becomes unchecked and nothing happens.&nbsp; Am I missing something?

[euroclie]

Originally posted by frasej
The overlay is great.
Thanks for the compliment! :)

I have one question though, every time I click the Assign button, the silk that I've picked becomes unchecked and nothing happens.&nbsp; Am I missing something?
Chances are that you did not activate WonderSilk first.

In the status bar, you have a small icon showing a graffiti area, just between the find mini-icon and the battery level mini-icon. Tap on this icon to get to the Silk Plug-in selection screen, and there, select WonderSilk instead of the default StandardInpit Silk plug-in.

Now when you assign a new silk plugin using Kinumaru, you should see it in the silk area! ;)

[euroclie]

Originally posted by jbarr
Check out one of my posts above. or just click <here (http://www.g04.com/kinumaru)> for screenshots of Kinumaru

Thanks! Exactly what I needed. I'll modify the overlay right now and upload it at the same place than the first as soon as it's done.

[euroclie]

OK, I made a few (minor) corrections, and uploaded the file again here: English overlay for Kinumaru v1.10 (http://euroclie.free.fr/Download/Kinumaru_enUS.zip).

Have fun!

[frasej]

Originally posted by euroclie

Thanks for the compliment! :)

[B]
Chances are that you did not activate WonderSilk first.

In the status bar, you have a small icon showing a graffiti area, just between the find mini-icon and the battery level mini-icon. Tap on this icon to get to the Silk Plug-in selection screen, and there, select WonderSilk instead of the default StandardInpit Silk plug-in.

Now when you assign a new silk plugin using Kinumaru, you should see it in the silk area! ;)

Thanks.&nbsp; That was it.&nbsp; I had Okey installed so I couldn't get to that item.&nbsp; I had to disable Okey first.

[Kaz]

Hello, I am Japanese living in TX and loving WonderSilk.
I am talking with Kobby and Chime how to support non-Japanese WonderSilk users.

I was asked by Kobby to tell everyone following messages.

---Translation start---
Hello everyone,
I am Treasure-Ways Kobby, seeking possibilities of WonderSilk with the author, Chime.
I want everyone to realize how nice WonderSilk is, so that I upload my skin samples and components as freeware in my web site.

I understand very well what you want to have English version of WonderSilk immediately, but would you please wait for a while until Chime officially release English version. He is trying to his best to release it as soon as possible, but it takes time to translate documents.

If you get unreleased English version by happen, please do not distribute it or with your own skins because it is not agreed by the author. I don't want it would happen which makes the author discouraged.
I believe and appreciate everyone's gentlemen understanding.

Even if you request repeatedly to follow up the author how soon it will be released, I am afraid he would be discouraged which might cause English version would not come forever.

Please understand such a nice freeware is already there even not English and be patient a little more.

Treasure-Ways kobby
---Translation end---

As Kobby says, and even Chime asked you, please do not distribute WonderSilk software with original skins.
That is the way Kobby upload his original silks on his web site.
http://www.treasure-ways.com/koby/forE/HowtoWonderSilkMaking.html

I will continue to talk with Chime and Kobby and help them translation if necessary.

Thanks.

[Kaz]

I made mis spelling his name. His name is Koby, not Kobby.
Sorry, Koby-san.

[pghart]

One thing I did notice is TealLaunch does not like this skinning. Any kind of Swipes in the Graffitti area are not recognized.

(CALC&nbsp;to&nbsp;MENU etc.)

Not sure about other DA launchers that use swipe, MCFile?

[frasej]

Originally posted by pghart
One thing I did notice is TealLaunch does not like this skinning. Any kind of Swipes in the Graffitti area are not recognized.

(CALC&nbsp;to&nbsp;MENU etc.)

Not sure about other DA launchers that use swipe, MCFile?

Which is why I set up TealLaunch to use a push of the jog dial to bring it up.

[frasej]

I will be glad when/if an English version of WonderMaker comes out.&nbsp; Then it will truly be a usable application.

[*Jive Turkey*]

I'm really watching this thread. I want this software but an afraid to install a Japanese program on my NX. I'm just afraid that I would mess it up. It sounds like a great program! :p

[deadlyfoez]

You're pretty safe. I've been running it since it was found. I love it.

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by frasej
I will be glad when/if an English version of WonderMaker comes out.&nbsp; Then it will truly be a usable application. Well, Kinumaru with the Language&nbsp;overlay, is REALLY nice . . . I don't know how an 'English' version could be different.&nbsp;&nbsp; I like skins already made enough to be patient.&nbsp; I REALLY can't wait for an English version of WonderMaker, though.&nbsp; That will be awesome!

(And I've been running it a while, with no issues/conflicts at all!)

[*Jive Turkey*]

The Turkey is mucho confused!
I read this
"After activated WonderSilk from Silk button in the status bar,
Kikumaru(application with slik skin icon) functions followings"
Ok I will start
1. No matter what skin I check and press the oval when I go into Photoskin it is the same silly grey skin that is just an eyesore.
2. I installed both prcs and Kikumaru is nowhere to be found
3. "OK, now tap the silk plug-in button on the Status Bar and select "WonderSilk" Where is this exactly? I'm not seeing this on the status bar I have installed.
I'm very sorry and am certainly not trying to be remedial here but I know that you are the people to ask :D

[euroclie]

Originally posted by *Jive Turkey*
The Turkey is mucho confused!
I read this
"After activated WonderSilk from Silk button in the status bar,
Kikumaru(application with slik skin icon) functions followings"
Ok I will start
1. No matter what skin I check and press the oval when I go into Photoskin it is the same silly grey skin that is just an eyesore.
2. I installed both prcs and Kikumaru is nowhere to be found
3. "OK, now tap the silk plug-in button on the Status Bar and select "WonderSilk" Where is this exactly? I'm not seeing this on the status bar I have installed.
I'm very sorry and am certainly not trying to be remedial here but I know that you are the people to ask :D

As I wrote earlier to frasej, you need to activate Wondersilk first before actually seeing the skins you download. They will not show up in PhotoSkin.

First of all, use PhotoSkin to restore the original Graffiti Area skin (you wouldn't be able to see your modified skin once using WonderSilk anyway), and most importantly the Status Bar Skin, as WonderSilk needs to be launched from a standard Status Bar icon.

Now in the status bar, you should see a small icon showing a graffiti area, just between the 'find' mini-icon and the 'battery level' mini-icon. Tap on this icon to get to the Silk Plug-in selection screen, and there, select WonderSilk instead of the default StandardInput Silk plug-in.
By the way, this is the only way to "launch" WonderSilk, as this program is not a standard application but a Silk plug-in and it will not show in the application launcher.

Kinumaru, on the other hand, is a standard application, its icon will be somewhere in the list with a strange name (that is, unless you install the English overlay I wrote, in which case it's name will be Kinumaru. You can get it here English overlay for Kinumaru v1.10 (http://euroclie.free.fr/Download/Kinumaru_enUS.zip) )

Now when you assign a new silk plugin using Kinumaru by pressing the oval button (the 'Assign' button with the English overlay), you should see it in the silk area!

Hope this helps!

[euroclie]

Originally posted by Kaz
Hello, I am Japanese living in TX and loving WonderSilk.
I am talking with Kobby and Chime how to support non-Japanese WonderSilk users.
First of all, thanks for your help, Kaz! Japanese<->English translation can be a slow and tedious process (especially for people like me who do not master the Japanese language), so anyone understanding both languages can bring a tremendous help to the Clie community, I'd say! ;)


I was asked by Kobby to tell everyone following messages.

---Translation start---
<snip>
I understand very well what you want to have English version of WonderSilk immediately, but would you please wait for a while until Chime officially release English version. He is trying to his best to release it as soon as possible, but it takes time to translate documents.

If you get unreleased English version by happen, please do not distribute it or with your own skins because it is not agreed by the author. I don't want it would happen which makes the author discouraged.

I believe and appreciate everyone's gentlemen understanding.

Even if you request repeatedly to follow up the author how soon it will be released, I am afraid he would be discouraged which might cause English version would not come forever.
<snip>
---Translation end---

Do you think Chime and Koby are talking about the beta English version they sent to jbarr here, or would my English overlay file be involved as well?

I mean, there's a high demand for English users to be able to use that application, so I decided to release a temporary fix here in the form of an overlay (which needs the unmodified original version of the program to run) instead of just editing the resources in the original file, thus modifying the program without the author content.

I've not yet contacted Chime about the overlay, so could you ask him if it's OK to release the overlay while he's working on the final English version? (I understand his reluctance to the fact that the application could be bundled with skins, so I just want to know if it's OK to make the overlay available as it is right now, on my site, not necessarily bundled with the skins).

Thanks in advance (I'll contact Chime personally anyway, but with the language barrier, it might be more efficient if you ask directly in Japanese!) ;)

[Kaz]

Originally posted by euroclie

I've not yet contacted Chime about the overlay, so could you ask him if it's OK to release the overlay while he's working on the final English version? (I understand his reluctance to the fact that the application could be bundled with skins, so I just want to know if it's OK to make the overlay available as it is right now, on my site, not necessarily bundled with the skins).
;)

Yes, I just asked him to look at your overlay.
I will update as soon as I hear from him.

Good News!
I just received English version Kinumaru and documents to check translation from Chimeas first shot. I am working it now.

[Kaz]

euroclie;

I received e-mail from Chime. He agrees that you would distribute your overlay in your web site. He will also look at your overlay for the reference to English version, which may be already finished.


English version;

I finished translation for Kinu-Maru, and asked for final check by Chime.
I also received WonderMaker in English version, and translating documents. As soon as completed, I will send for his check.


Button images and other components;

I have already introduced that Koby has released variety of buttons such as popular applications, Clie applications and audio controls.
It would help for people who is trying to make own skins by WonderMaker. Please refer to Page 4 of this thread.

[sandiclaus]

This is so great! I am looking forward to the English version as well.

[dmale7]

As I wrote earlier to frasej, you need to activate Wondersilk first before actually seeing the skins you download. They will not show up in PhotoSkin.

First of all, use PhotoSkin to restore the original Graffiti Area skin (you wouldn't be able to see your modified skin once using WonderSilk anyway), and most importantly the Status Bar Skin, as WonderSilk needs to be launched from a standard Status Bar icon.

Now in the status bar, you should see a small icon showing a graffiti area, just between the 'find' mini-icon and the 'battery level' mini-icon. Tap on this icon to get to the Silk Plug-in selection screen, and there, select WonderSilk instead of the default StandardInput Silk plug-in.
By the way, this is the only way to "launch" WonderSilk, as this program is not a standard application but a Silk plug-in and it will not show in the application launcher.

Kinumaru, on the other hand, is a standard application, its icon will be somewhere in the list with a strange name (that is, unless you install the English overlay I wrote, in which case it's name will be Kinumaru. You can get it here English overlay for Kinumaru v1.10 )

Now when you assign a new silk plugin using Kinumaru by pressing the oval button (the 'Assign' button with the English overlay), you should see it in the silk area!

Hope this helps!

For some reason I cannot see wondersilk in the silk plugin area at all. I wonder what I'm doing wrong.

[jbarr]

I notice that some of the "Koby"-supplied images have a red background that shows up transparant when imported into WonderMaker. The files are .bmp files, but when I try to apply that color to other areas, they just come up red.

Anyone know how to make an image with transparant sections?

Thanks!

[Kaz]

Originally posted by jbarr
Anyone know how to make an image with transparant sections?

Thanks!


Please refer to my note on Page 5.
As you already know, two button icons for pen up and pen down should be aligned vertically.
Transparent icon can be created by adding one pixel width horizontal line at the bottom of two icons, and the line color is the identifier for transparent area color.
That is why transparent button components have odd numbers of vertical pixels. (i.e. n x m button = n x 2m+1 (HV) image)

[*Jive Turkey*]

Originally posted by euroclie


Now when you assign a new silk plugin using Kinumaru by pressing the oval button (the 'Assign' button with the English overlay), you should see it in the silk area!

Hope this helps!

Indeed it did, now I am enjoying all the fun stuff everyone else is. Thanks for your patience and kindness euroclie!!

[jbarr]

Originally posted by Kaz



Please refer to my note on Page 5.
As you already know, two button icons for pen up and pen down should be aligned vertically.
Transparent icon can be created by adding one pixel width horizontal line at the bottom of two icons, and the line color is the identifier for transparent area color.
That is why transparent button components have odd numbers of vertical pixels. (i.e. n x m button = n x 2m+1 (HV) image) Oh my! How simple! This just gets cooler and cooler every day!!!!!

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by *Jive Turkey*
Indeed it did, now I am enjoying all the fun stuff everyone else is. Thanks for your patience and kindness euroclie!! Which skin is your favorite?&nbsp; Have you tried WSilkTaPad?

[*Jive Turkey*]

Originally posted by *YellowRose*
Which skin is your favorite?&nbsp; Have you tried WSilkTaPad?

Glad you asked!
I like the tap pad one, however I don't care for the buttons as everone has stated. The audio player works great but when I tap some of the other buttons I get the save app info! I know I need to read and am just being dense...;)

[jbarr]

Originally posted by *Jive Turkey*
...but when I tap some of the other buttons I get the save app info! I know I need to read and am just being dense...;) If I'm not mistaken, that means that you have not defined what applications to launch in the Kinumaru (WinderSilk) app. This is done through the third menu item.

Undforunatly, there is no way to really tell what functions the buttons have other than in any documentation for each skin--which, of course, is non existent at this time! ;)

[*Jive Turkey*]

I think I am getting it!

[dmale7]

I feel like a moron...I'm having the hardest time getting the wondersilk thing going and I'm just not getting anywhere. It's loaded on my Clie but doesn't appear in the silk plugin area...I need help! Ah'm Dyin' ova heeere!

[freecia]

this is soo cool. You think we could get this thread "stuck" to the top of the board for future dates and english release?
I'd love to try this out in a few days when I have some more spare time.

[deeps]

This is cool - I can't wait for the eng ver of wondermaker! I have been running wondersilk & kinumaru (with the gr8 eng overlay) on the clie simulator on my pc (don't want to endanger my precious, mmm precious) with complete success, woohoo!

Can anyone in communication with the programmers ask if we could include a function to skin the rest of the launcher? I don't want to change the button funtions, just match the look. ;)

[OcellNuri]

Originally posted by *Jive Turkey*


Glad you asked!
I like the tap pad one, however I don't care for the buttons as everone has stated. The audio player works great but when I tap some of the other buttons I get the save app info! I know I need to read and am just being dense...;)

I just installed all this. THIS IS AMAZING. I am soo excited. I just didn't have time to mess with it until now.

Concerning "Save App Info!":

You can use the pull down menu's, but there is also a second way to assign these buttons to launch an app. First.. you need to clear the accidental associations you have already made. I am doing all of this with the English Overlay installed...

Launch the Kinumaru App
Bring down the menu and go to "Button Settings"
Now Check off all of the buttons and do "Delete Info..."
Exit that

Now to assign your apps to the buttons in the Skinlet:
Make sure you have your Skinlet loaded
Launch the app you want the button to load
While you are in the app, tap the button, and it will say "Save App Info!" - This means that it has associated the app you are currently in with this button. Move on to the next app and press the button you want to launch that app with.


I'm using the Aqua skin right now, just because it looks sooo nice.

[Kaz]

Originally posted by OcellNuri

Now to assign your apps to the buttons in the Skinlet:
Make sure you have your Skinlet loaded
Launch the app you want the button to load
While you are in the app, tap the button, and it will say "Save App Info!" - This means that it has associated the app you are currently in with this button. Move on to the next app and press the button you want to launch that app with.




Yes, you are correct!
I found the trick while translating Japanese manual to English.

Similar function for "Stamp" shape button. It is called "Push/Pop Running App." It is one time only memorizing application. When you tap the button, current running application is memorized. Next time you tap the button from another application, the memorized application is recalled. Only one time.

Both Push/Pop Running App. button and User defined launcher buttons (up to 8) cannot recall applications in memory stick. I think it is because standard OS specifications.

[dmale7]

OK! I've got it...and I love it!

[dmale7]

OK! I've got it...and I love it!

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by jbarr
Guys, I REALLY hate to tease you like this, but the author emailed me a copy of the English version of the WonderMaker program as well as the "Kinumaru" program (the Silk manager on the Palm.), but he didn't specify if I could freely re-distribute it. I'm waiting to hear back from him. Unfortunatly, there's the lag time between Chigago and Japan. If it's OK, I will post it on my web site.

PLEASE be patient!

Ah crap I just spent the last hour working on translating the application and editing its resources. >:-(

[clie_wannabe]

as of february 16, there has been a public release of the usable "parts" for wondersilk... check the links below...

Graffiti Area Set (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/datas/GraffitiAreaSet.gif)

Silk Buttons (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/datas/WS_SilkNumBtn_wFLAT6.jpg)

WonderSilk parts (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/datas/WS_SilkParts.gif)

[ShellyBelly]

Totally GREAT!!!

Can't wait for the Eng version to see what else I am missing:)

[ShellyBelly]

I've been playing with the TapPad type Vg's he's made and am totally amazed by my Clie, yet again!!!!!

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by clie_wannabe
as of february 16, there has been a public release of the usable "parts" for wondersilk... check the links below...

Graffiti Area Set (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/datas/GraffitiAreaSet.gif)

Silk Buttons (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/datas/WS_SilkNumBtn_wFLAT6.jpg)

WonderSilk parts (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/datas/WS_SilkParts.gif)

What do yo do with these?
Save the image, or is there somewhere to go to download the images?
Thanks

[clie_wannabe]

Originally posted by n0m0n


What do yo do with these?
Save the image, or is there somewhere to go to download the images?
Thanks

ooopsss... the url uses java-embedded code so you could say that the "download" urls are quite "hidden"...

hold on a sec...

Graffiti Area Set (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9524)

Silk Buttons (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9523)

Wonder Silk Parts (http://www.treasure-ways.com:8080/download.jsp?ID=9520)

[Kaz]

Everyone,

English version of WonderSilk/Kinu-maru and WonderMaker is officially released at http://www.maicca.com/

Kinu-maru is now not only English version but also has a function to compress silk size when it converts from wsb to prc file.

WonderMaker running on non-Japanese Window becomes automatically English version with English menu and English version Palm Graffiti size.

Enjoy!

[xlr8]

I've downloaded wondersilk maker but i cant import anything at all. Theres not even the fil, edit, etc stuff up the top.

[Tixx]

This WonderSilk is really nice:)

[jbarr]

Originally posted by xlr8
I've downloaded wondersilk maker but i cant import anything at all. Theres not even the fil, edit, etc stuff up the top. Please read the documentation. Unfortunatly, the program doesn't follow "typical" Windoes programming standards. By this, I mean that everything is added with Drag-and-drop.

NOTE: I tried loading some of the skins that I created into the latest version, and they don't seem to laod. Looks like I have to re-build them if y'all want to edit them. :(

But moving forward, they will be compatible!

[Kaz]

Originally posted by jbarr
I tried loading some of the skins that I created into the latest version, and they don't seem to laod. Looks like I have to re-build them if y'all want to edit them.

jbarr,

I read carefully Japanese readme, and found additional comments for JP/EN mode data compatibility as follows.

Because size of Palm Graffiti area is different by Palm OS spec,
-EN:216x126
-JP:188x126
WonderMaker rejects to load silk data (wsb) in different mode to avoid misoperation.
However, Chime put forced loading function.
Drag silk data (different mode) with ALT key.
Graffiti image is ignored, however other buttons will be successfully loaded. Anyway Graffiti image would not match in the mode, so it is practical.

Please try.

[euroclie]

Hi all,

Now that the English version of the Kinumaru application is released, I have removed the English overlay, as requested by Chime, the program author.

Hope it was usefull during those few days of wait, though!

I'm working on a French overlay, for the few French people which do not understand English but would like to use the program anyway, please contact me if you are interested in overlays for other languages!

[jbarr]

Originally posted by Kaz


jbarr,

I read carefully Japanese readme, and found additional comments for JP/EN mode data compatibility as follows.

Because size of Palm Graffiti area is different by Palm OS spec,
-EN:216x126
-JP:188x126
WonderMaker rejects to load silk data (wsb) in different mode to avoid misoperation.
However, Chime put forced loading function.
Drag silk data (different mode) with ALT key.
Graffiti image is ignored, however other buttons will be successfully loaded. Anyway Graffiti image would not match in the mode, so it is practical.

Please try. Whew! Holding the Alt key while dragginf and dropping the older .wsb files worked like a charm. When I save them again, and re-open them, it doesn't require me to press the Alt key. Sweet!

Thanks for the tip!

[jbarr]

Wnyone know what the "Alt-Relative Grid" drop-down is for?

I have been able to figure everything else out except for this one. Can't find any (English) documentation on this one.

[ShellyBelly]

Originally posted by Kaz
Everyone,

English version of WonderSilk/Kinu-maru and WonderMaker is officially released at http://www.maicca.com/

Kinu-maru is now not only English version but also has a function to compress silk size when it converts from wsb to prc file.

WonderMaker running on non-Japanese Window becomes automatically English version with English menu and English version Palm Graffiti size.

Enjoy!


I have v0112_0120, has there been a chnage since then?

This is great!!:)

[Unregistered]

what program could i use to convert pictures to the correct pixel size?

[Kaz]

Originally posted by ShellyBelly
I have v0112_0120, has there been a chnage since then?

This is great!!:)

No. WonderSilk0112_0120.zip is the latest now.
But did you try English version WonderMakerApp0120.zip ?

[ShellyBelly]

Originally posted by Kaz


No. WonderSilk0112_0120.zip is the latest now.
But did you try English version WonderMakerApp0120.zip ?

I'm not making any, only using the few I can find that are already made.

Does that make a difference in my situation???

Thanks a ton:)

[jmg_NX21]

The lag upon pushing the calc, find, etc. buttons normal??

*neat how the VG area 'lights up' *

[Tixx]

Originally posted by jmg_NX21
The lag upon pushing the calc, find, etc. buttons normal??

*neat how the VG area 'lights up' *

I've noticed that too.

[GSC3D]

So does anyone know if there is a way to get back the standard english VG keyboard when using wondersilk? I assumed the Kinumaru_E.prc would take care of it. Am i missing something like an english version of WonderSilk.prc or something? I use the little keyboard quite a bit sometimes especially for symbols and iternational chars. I really can use the japanese keyboard for any of this.

thanks

[jbarr]

Originally posted by GSC3D
So does anyone know if there is a way to get back the standard english VG keyboard when using wondersilk? I assumed the Kinumaru_E.prc would take care of it. Am i missing something like an english version of WonderSilk.prc or something? I use the little keyboard quite a bit sometimes especially for symbols and iternational chars. I really can use the japanese keyboard for any of this.

thanks Unfortunatly, no. Not in this release. One of the keyboards IS a qwerty keyboard, and you may find the characters you need.

[jbarr]

Originally posted by jmg_NX21
The lag upon pushing the calc, find, etc. buttons normal??

*neat how the VG area 'lights up' * Yeah! It is so simple to do! Just create a "double-height" Graffiti Area image. The upper half is the state when the Graffiti area is not pressed, and the bottom half is the state when it is pressed. You can let your imagination go wild with this one!

[NR70V-o-holic]

Originally posted by jbarr
Unfortunatly, no. Not in this release. One of the keyboards IS a qwerty keyboard, and you may find the characters you need.


A great App. indeed, but as all my Inputs go through the
VG-Keyboard and I´m very used to it, I hope chime will
do another Update wich displays that VG-Keyboard that
is used by the Standardinput.

Noh

[NXTacy]

English instructions from the program author are here

http://www.treasure-ways.com/koby/forE/HowtoWonderSilkMaking.html

[ShellyBelly]

Has anyone made anymore skins???

PLEASE:):):)

I love the ones that go from grey to red when you write on them, but I really want one with the second screen that has all the shortcut buttons too.

Let me know if you guys have made anymore:)

Thanks:)

[sstrasser86]

I can't wait to get some great skins for my NX

[francis]

I got the english version and love it! It solves so many of the dissapointiong problems incurred with clamshell design and opening to acess the hard keys for app. I am happy that the Clamshell makes sence now, which by the way is primarily why I swicthed, because I dropped my Palm 515 and broke the screen. what? I am wondering what and how the 5 numbered buttons below the options icon on the WS-srtandard-01 skin do? is it something to do with the user def. strings? if not what are they (the number buttons) for and what are the user def. strings?

[JTK]

Great, this Plug in is super.
I alwas waiting for this :-)
Now i can make real Startrek skins :-)

Pain Shop on :-)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by francis
I got the english version and love it! It solves so many of the dissapointiong problems incurred with clamshell design and opening to acess the hard keys for app. I am happy that the Clamshell makes sence now, which by the way is primarily why I swicthed, because I dropped my Palm 515 and broke the screen. what? I am wondering what and how the 5 numbered buttons below the options icon on the WS-srtandard-01 skin do? is it something to do with the user def. strings? if not what are they (the number buttons) for and what are the user def. strings?

FYI - Okey allows for this access using the status bar:) I just learned this recently.

[n0m0n]

Well I have viewed all the info and have tried for about 3 days now, and I guess this isn't for me.
I have attempted to do everything that has been stated but still this doesn't work for me.
In my profession have to troubleshoot and design fiber networks so I don't think I am the dumbest person in the world but somewhere either the way it is stated described, or whatever I just don't get it.
Thanks for the attempt but I give up.
Its a shame aI wanted a picture of the family to be the graffiti area and wanted to organize and redefine the extra buttons as to the programs that I have on my unit or MS.
Oh well...
Thanks again
JW

[oneeyesquare]

Pic on top of graffitti...Use MS paint, draw a rectangle box 216 pixels wide and 252 pixels tall. Fill it with a color of your choice Resize a pic (in bitmap format, 24 bit) to 126 x 216 pixels (trickiest part). Copy a 1 x216 slice out of the bottom of the pic and paste it at the very bottom of your rectangle. Save it to a file( I made a "My skins" file) , open Wondermaker and drag the Graffiti bitmap you just made onto the Graffitti area. If it doesn't load, double check the overall dimensions of your creation. I first added the 1 pixel slice to the bottom of my rectangle, but it needs to overlay the last pixel to work. I made a nice one to remind me that summer's coming!!!!
I've had a blast playing with this!!!

[ShellyBelly]

Anyone willing to share their creations???????:)

[JTK]

Originally posted by JTK
Great, this Plug in is super.
I alwas waiting for this :-)
Now i can make real Startrek skins :-)

Pain Shop on :-)

Okay i made one :-)

Its a little late here and for the first time i use some standard Icons. I hope you like it , if i have more time i will make it better.
You can download it here
http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3100

Have fun

[jbarr]

Originally posted by n0m0n
Well I have viewed all the info and have tried for about 3 days now, and I guess this isn't for me.
I have attempted to do everything that has been stated but still this doesn't work for me.
In my profession have to troubleshoot and design fiber networks so I don't think I am the dumbest person in the world but somewhere either the way it is stated described, or whatever I just don't get it.
Thanks for the attempt but I give up.
Its a shame aI wanted a picture of the family to be the graffiti area and wanted to organize and redefine the extra buttons as to the programs that I have on my unit or MS.
Oh well...
Thanks again
JW Are you sure you're pasting a .bmp file and not a .jpg or .gif file? WonderMaker WILL NOT IMPORT these types of file--only .bmp files. .bmp files can be created from .jpg or .gif files by opening them in Windows Paint, doing a "Save As", and specifying a file type of .bmp.

Plese give this a shot and let us know if you have any success with this.

Hang in there! We'll get this to work!

[oneeyesquare]

Animated GIF's would be cool, wouldn't it!!! Probably be a battery killer....
The worst part for me was building templates. I now have the background and double graffitti all done. Need a good pic editing program. I plan on rotating out the front pic periodically. Can anyone recommend a comparable freeware program to Photoshop?

Will there be a "Wonderskins" gallery soon??? (hint, hint...) ;)

[kdn102]

I have the following request for the developer:
Add an option that, when turned on, would display the 'mini' icons for the 8 user definable silk's. Sort of like what is done on the built-in launcher. That way skin developers can make the buttons big enough, if desired, and the users would be able to see what they are defined to.

[ShellyBelly]

Originally posted by JTK


Okay i made one :-)

Its a little late here and for the first time i use some standard Icons. I hope you like it , if i have more time i will make it better.
You can download it here
http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3100

Have fun


Looks sweet!!!


Loading it now:)

[ShellyBelly]

Oh, if we are doing requests then I would like one with the dark grey turns to red when writeen on background and you can switch to the second screen that shows icons to customize to launch your programs!!!

Oh, oh and an Eng keyboard!!!

Thanks:)

[n0m0n]

Originally posted by jbarr
Are you sure you're pasting a .bmp file and not a .jpg or .gif file? WonderMaker WILL NOT IMPORT these types of file--only .bmp files. .bmp files can be created from .jpg or .gif files by opening them in Windows Paint, doing a "Save As", and specifying a file type of .bmp.

Plese give this a shot and let us know if you have any success with this.

Hang in there! We'll get this to work!

Yes I saved it to my desktop and then right clicked on it and it says Bitmap Image as type.

[Hyphen]

Didn't work for me until I saved it in the SanmpleBMPs_E folder and named the Silkbase1.bmp. Once I did that it showed up in wondermaker when I dragged it on. Hope that helps.

[oneeyesquare]

A jpeg saved at 24bit bitmp (.bmp) doesn't need to be stored in any special folder or have any special name. Name it as you wish & store it in afolder where you can find it...The crucial matter is that thefile whether background or graffiti area are exactly the size specified on the wondermaker app

[chopstxxx]

Wow I just downloaded this program today and it is awesome. I have 8 oclock class tomorrow morning but I'm still up at 5 a.m. making skins with WonderMaker. This has got to be the most useful plugin ever. Here's a sample of the work i did tonight (thanks to jbarr for some of the inspiration ;)).
BTW, how do I get a GIF image of what my silk looks like?

[velocitysf]

I second that. WonderMaker is great....but now I can see myself spending hours on all manner of new Wonderskins...Now I can spend even more time on my Clie...

[stronggeek]

Hey, can someone make a skin that toggles between apps & mp3 controls on one skin and blank graffiti on the(actually 4 progammable app buttons on the bottom, not hard buttons) the other, but as I still use okey I'd like no "hard" buttons and no arrows?

Thanks to whoever does it. I f not I'll do it when have time!

Thanks,
Stronggeek

[addict]

With all the "stuff" in the silkscreen area, how do you even have room to write your Graffiti?

Haven't implemented this stuff yet, so please bear with me.

[ShellyBelly]

Originally posted by chopstxxx
Wow I just downloaded this program today and it is awesome. I have 8 oclock class tomorrow morning but I'm still up at 5 a.m. making skins with WonderMaker. This has got to be the most useful plugin ever. Here's a sample of the work i did tonight (thanks to jbarr for some of the inspiration ;)).
BTW, how do I get a GIF image of what my silk looks like?


Where????

[chopstxxx]

I tried attaching the .zip in my post but i guess it didn't work. Try this link instead.

http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/jwong785017/lst?.dir=/WonderSilk

[ShellyBelly]

Sorry but it's an empty folder displayed on a web page:(

[chopstxxx]

http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3118

hopefully it will work this time

[MythoFactory]

I guess I won't use it if it's this sllllooooowwww.
And I think it's an overkill. How bad do you need all those buttons clustered owl over your skriiin?? I wonder... I think that if you like third-party launchers, you'll like this, but it's not for me, thanks

[ShellyBelly]

Thanks Chop, loading now:)

[ShellyBelly]

Hey Chop what are the 5 buttons at the bottom left for????:)

[ShellyBelly]

Can anyone do one with the dark grey to red background and the second "page" of icons?????:)

[stronggeek]

Hey Shellybelly,

Though I haven't tried this skin yet those 5 buttons would normally be associated with the user-definable strings that you can configure with the button on the bottom right. They are used for pasting stored words, phrases etc

Stronggeek

[ShellyBelly]

They aren't working with the ones I have defined within the core program.

[chopstxxx]

Originally posted by ShellyBelly
Hey Chop what are the 5 buttons at the bottom left for????:)

Originally posted by stronggeek
Hey Shellybelly,

Though I haven't tried this skin yet those 5 buttons would normally be associated with the user-definable strings that you can configure with the button on the bottom right. They are used for pasting stored words, phrases etc

Stronggeek

thats what they are for.

[ShellyBelly]

Hummm, must work on this then....thanks:)

[oneeyesquare]

I uploaded a skin in the virt graffitti section. It's NOT for sale.... Laugh at it, try it, mod it... It's free!!!
What a fun little app!!! I've spent more time making stuff on the computer than since I first got the desktop. I wish Wondermaker had a grid overlay, I noticed my upper app icons are a little kittywhompus. O well! Ya get what ya pay for!!

[chopstxxx]

http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3121

here's my second skin. This one is based on jbarr's aqua skin. The background and grafitti area are jbarr's and they are awesome. I moved the mp3 controls and hard up and down arrows so that they always show. I also changed the icons to make them transperent and added a number pad. Hope you all like it.

[ShellyBelly]

Great skins:)

Glad that some are getting into the VG area on CS now:)

Thanks to all who are sharing these:):):)

[jmoo2]

Is there somewhere we can get images to use with WonderSilk other than those listed at http://www.treasure-ways.com/koby/f...ilkMaking.html, or do we have to make our own? I'm particularly after MP3 controls.

[JTK]

Make the 2 th Lcars Skin.
I sorry for the poor Picture on :
http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3126

It's look better on the NX, really

Greetings
:cool:

[chopstxxx]

http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3154

Here is my newest skin and my first "original" work.


http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3155

Here is a revision to my Numbers2 skin. I replaced the numberpad with 4 application buttons. Let me know what you think.

[chopstxxx]

Also, does anyone have a WebProV Icon??? I couldn't find an image to use anywhere.

[totisgr]

Hello everyone. I have a couple of questions. I downloaded wondersilk and got it to work. The problem is that the apications buttons on the graffity area do not work. i got a message something like either saving aplication or loading aplication the first time i pressed them and ever since, when i press them "Please wait" comes up on the screen and nothing happens... What am i doing wrong?
Another question. If i understud corectly, the built in clie launcher skin can be changed using wondersilk. HOW?
Hello From Greece!

[Alistar]

That message means that it is saving the current app you are in as the app to open when you hit that button. There is an option to manually set them all in the Kinu-maru app, it under the menu. Otherwise to set them for the first time, open the app you want and then hit the appropriate button.

[ShellyBelly]

Originally posted by chopstxxx
http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3154

Here is my newest skin and my first "original" work.


http://www.cliesource.com/sdownload/fileinfo.php?id=3155

Here is a revision to my Numbers2 skin. I replaced the numberpad with 4 application buttons. Let me know what you think.


Oh, I love the red-grey one!!!!!

Can't wait to try it out!

Thanks:)

[ShellyBelly]

I REALLY like the new one, but is there a way to get the grey to that dark almost silvery grey that the original ones were???:):):)

THanks a ton:)

[RogerMoore]

Thank you so much for posting all the skins. I consider the fact that I downloaded and was able to figure out the WonderSilk application a major accomplishment for my humble computer skills. But I've yet to attemp to make my own. So thanks.

Since the Home, Find and Drop Down buttons are on the Status Bar, would anyone be interested in making some skins that didn't include these redundant buttons?

[goyanian]

very kool plugin!

[jbarr]

Originally posted by RogerMoore
Since the Home, Find and Drop Down buttons are on the Status Bar, would anyone be interested in making some skins that didn't include these redundant buttons? Yes! In fact, I am working on some and will be posting them hopefully this weekend!

[ShellyBelly]

I have the directions and all the parts to the WOnderMaker but I can't figure out how to change the background or how to get that second page that everyone is using for more buttons.

Any help would be great:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by ShellyBelly
I have the directions and all the parts to the WOnderMaker but I can't figure out how to change the background or how to get that second page that everyone is using for more buttons.

Any help would be great:)

Are you going to make a candy skin:p:)

[oneeyesquare]

It's all drag and drop. Everything has to be the exact size as displayed on the field, ie, backgrounds=320px130p, 1xgraffiti=216px126p, 2xgraffitti=216px252p with a 1p strip from the top pic pasted to the bottom of the bottom pic. MSpaint is competent enough top build these parts. I downloaded a beta of PaintshopPro for a little added functionality, but a much steeper learning curve.
I've played around quite a bit with pics and I've found that they usually lose their depth when saved in .bmp form. Probably a way to fix that , but a little beyond me yet.
It's addictive....

[ShellyBelly]

But I'm using the /bmp's that were supplied???

I don't know how to "select" the background as you can do with the four major buttons?????

Tixx, you wish, babe!!! Though it ain't a half bad idea:)...hummmmm.....

[jbarr]

Originally posted by ShellyBelly
I have the directions and all the parts to the WOnderMaker but I can't figure out how to change the background or how to get that second page that everyone is using for more buttons.

Any help would be great:) 1. Changing the Background:
Create or modify any .BMP (Windws Bitmap) file and make sure it meets the following 2 criteria: 1. it MUST be 320x130 pixels and 2. it SHOULD be a 256 color .bmp file. WonderMaker SHOULD import images with more colors, but it will convert them to 256 colors.

Use any paint program such as Windows Paint. If the image you want to use happens to be a .gif or a .jpg, or any other format other than .bmp, it must be converted to .bmp. Again, using Windows Paint does the trick most of the time. Just do a "Save As" and select Windows 256 color .bmp as the format.

Once you have the file you want, just drop it onto an open WonderMaker window. Make sure you drop it OUTSIDE of the Graffiti area (the dotted line area). That should do it.

The BUGGEST hassle is the 256 color limitation because when you convert imaged (at least in Windows Paint) sometimes, the resulting image looks like garbage. Just play around with it and see what you can come up with.

2. Accessing the cool "second page":
In WindowMaker, there is a control on the left side in the middle. It's a dropdown accessed by clicking on the little icon next to the button functions dropdown. The three selections are: "Graffiti Visible", "Push Graffiti Visible", and "Graffiti Invisible". Select the third one, "Graffiti Invisible". This will hide the Graffiti area. Place your buttons in this area and you are good to go...almost. Every button has three "states" as defined by the drop-down at the very bottom of each button's definition section along the bottom of the window. This dropdown allows you to specify when each button is visible: "Sync'd with Graffiti) (ie: visible when Graffiti is visible), "Anti-sync'd with Graffiti" (ie: visible when the Graffiti area is hidden}, and "Always visible" (ie: visible regardless of the state of the Graffiti area being hidden or visible. You need to plan out what will be visible when and then set the settings accordingly. Note three important things: 1. These settings must be set for EACH button, 2. these settings affecat ALL buttons, not just those placed within the boundry of the Graffiti area, and 3. If you are going to allow the Graffiti area to be hidden, you need to assign either one of your buttons to have the "Show/Hide Graffiti Area Picture" functions assigned to it. Or, you need to assign two buttons, one with the "Hide Graffiti Area Picture" function and the other with the "Show Graffiti Area Picture" function. A trick here is to lay out both buttons "on top of each other", one assigned to "Sync'd with Graffiti" and the other to be "Anti-sync'd with Graffiti". This allows you to have the appearance of two button states (like on or off) for that function.

I hope this makes sense!

[franci miller]

I am so thankful for your hard work and genorous nature, (Jim). I am posting here so I recive a notification when and if you post the new skin without the home,search, option buttons and anxious to see what you replace them with. Thanks again. you are great! Francis

[franci miller]

I am not sure if the last post was done in a way that send me an e-mail so I am doing it again the other way to make sure.

(Jim). I am posting here so I receive a notification when and if you post the new skin without the home,search, option buttons and anxious to see what you replace them with. Thanks again. you are great! Francis
P.S. Anything I can do to support you and show my appreciation for all your work?

[flytrapxx]

How do you get any silk skin to show up on the lists of skins when using Kinu-maru? All skins available on my clie show up using Photoskin, but not on Kinu-maru. Is it a certain file type I should be using or any *.prc skin file?

Thanks.

[euroclie]

Originally posted by flytrapxx
How do you get any silk skin to show up on the lists of skins when using Kinu-maru? All skins available on my clie show up using Photoskin, but not on Kinu-maru. Is it a certain file type I should be using or any *.prc skin file?

Kinumaru only manages the WonderSilk type of skins, which are quite different from the "normal" skins used with Photoskin.

In a nutshell, Photoskin skins are just nice bitmaps you can put in the virtual graffiti or status bar, whereas WonderSilk skins are "active" skins with buttons which actually do have an effect when you tap them.

[koby]

Your Skin --- notice:

If my WonderSilk Parts is used:

It is prohibited to distribute or resell the software in any case,
which the author does not intend.

Withdraw right away, if it has already disclosed.
It is written'readme' in Japanese to able to be.

The Parts-icon has copyrights.
I expect to your gentlemanly action.

Stop selling the skin that selling now.
(Free download item:: without stopping, I agreed reselling)

by Studio Treasure Forest:: koby

The knowledge of English was poor and became late.

[euroclie]

Originally posted by koby
Your Skin --- notice:

If my WonderSilk Parts is used:

It is prohibited to distribute or resell the software in any case,
which the author does not intend.

Withdraw right away, if it has already disclosed.
It is written'readme' in Japanese to able to be.

The Parts-icon has copyrights.
I expect to your gentlemanly action.

Stop selling the skin that selling now.
(Free download item:: without stopping, I agreed reselling)

by Studio Treasure Forest:: koby

The knowledge of English was poor and became late.

This seems quite clear although probably machine-translated:

Has anyone here released a (non freeware) skin bundled with or based on WonderSilk?

If so, you should either remove it or at least release it as freeware.

And if I remember correctly, WonderSilk author asked not to bundle his application along with the skins (to let users always get the latest version of WonderSilk and Kinumaru).

As for me I already removed the English overlay, as requested by Kinumaru's author after the English version became available... ;)

[jbarr]

Just so everyone knows, out of respect for Kobey's licensing agreement, all the skins at my site (www.WonderSilkSkins.com (http://www.wondersilkskins.com) are (and have always been) free. While I do accept donations on my site, the donations are intended to help support the site in general, not to profit from the skins in any way. While I did have a "PayPal Donate" button next to each Skin Gallery listing, I have since removed it to avoid any confusion or misunderstanding. I have left the general "Donate" button in in the left bottom of each page where it always has been to promote general support of my site.

As for other skins being sold, PlamGear is currently offline, so I don't know it any of the other skins are still being sold. If they are, it would be prudent for their author to have them unlisted immediatly and/or communicate with Koby directly. None of my skins are nor have ever been available for sale by me anywhere on the Internet.

[doc10house]

am I the only one who can't seem to figure out what to type in the "Define String" blanks to assign apps to various buttons on a WS skin? Also, if you can assign up to 8 buttons, how come there are only 50 blanks on the "Define" string in Kinu-Maru?

[jbarr]

Originally posted by doc10house
am I the only one who can't seem to figure out what to type in the "Define String" blanks to assign apps to various buttons on a WS skin? Also, if you can assign up to 8 buttons, how come there are only 50 blanks on the "Define" string in Kinu-Maru? I think you are misinformed as to some of the functions.

The "Define String" function allows you to pre-assign up to *5* text strings from within the Kinu-Maru program. If corresponding buttons are defined in a skin, then when you tap the buttons while a text field is active, the associated text will be pasted into that field. It's kind of a "permanent" clipboard for often-used text strings.

The Application buttons to which you refer are assigned by tapping on the Kinu-Maru menu and selecting "Launcher Info. Manager". The screen that pops up allows you to assign (from a drop-down list) any memory-resident (ie: NOT residing on a Memory Stick) apps. Up to *8* apps can be defined here. You can also check all or selected apps and then tap on "Delete Info..." to "de-associate the buttons from the associated apps.

The biggest problem is that when a skind designer creates a skin, he may include none, some, or all of the 8 buttons, and mor confising, may not assign the buttons in a logical order. I am guilty of this on several of my skins. unfortunatly, the consistency is designer-selected. That said, an easy way to re-assign the keys to the apps that you want is to go into the Kinu-maru app, select the "Laincher Info. Manager" screen, check all the boxes and tap on "Delete Info.." This will clear all the associations. Next, launch an app that you want to associate to a button using your favorite launcher. Now, with the app lanuched, tap on the button you want to assign. A brief message will appear over the skin stating that it saved the app info. Now, the next time you tap that button, the associated app will launch. This is the most flexible way, but isn't that intuitive.

Hope this helps!

[Unregistered]

ok, so sorry to butt in on conversation that has long passed this point...I've been out of town without web access for a few days, so I missed a ton of stuff...I just have two questions:

1)I've seen all the skins have more than one interface...how do you switch between them?

2) VFS support for native files (i.e. prc files)? I can't seem to get it to work.

[nextyoyoma]

Erm....sorry, that was me above...I thought i was logged in...anyway. I've also noticed that sometimes the buttons underneath the skin activate, like sometimes when trying to use the audio controls, a find dialogue box comes up...sorry if this has already been noted

[Rick 098]

Search for Zeopad launcher in palmgear, is semi-english (keyboard has sections that are for jap. icons but does have normal qwerty)includes woindersilk. wondersilk includes a functonal silkscreen calculator!
Ps launched by grafchangerthingy (whats it called!).

[Rick 098]

Ps. zeopad is shareware but does include free wondersilk in zip file.

[Submicron]

Originally posted by Rick 098
Ps. zeopad is shareware but does include free wondersilk in zip file. Thanks! Good tip!

[OcellNuri]

Great.. here we go with the Zeopad stuff again.

[Rick 098]

I just said it in case someone couldent find the japanese site

[chelton25]

How do i place the .wsb files onto my Memory Stick and then use them from there? Tahnks

[Unregistered]

Wondersilks are great, aren't they. You can have access to a whole library of silks at:

http://g04.com/html/index.php

The site is called "Jim's Tips".

Stan Scott
New York City