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leo_clie
01-02-2004, 01:36 PM
Has anybody an idea, if I could use the my NX80 as some kind of thermometer? I see there is MyTemp, but this is somehow limited to Palm and NX/NR excluded. So, does anybody know of a workaround, where to stick the interface to the Clie and then the temperature is recorded to the Clie?
Prozak
01-02-2004, 03:56 PM
huh?
Spikesdacoolest
01-02-2004, 04:01 PM
you could always scotch or duct tape a thermometer to the back of your Clie :D that'd work but is a very low tech solution to your problem.
ClieKun
01-02-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by Spikesdacoolest
you could always scotch or duct tape a thermometer to the back of your Clie :D that'd work but is a very low tech solution to your problem.
HEHHEHEHE i like it :D
leo_clie
01-05-2004, 09:18 AM
As a low tech solution, who volunteers for ducted at my Clie for logging?;)
BTW: Nobody has a high tech solution? I can make pictures, record voice, movies, use it as a MP3-Player and then low tech?:confused:
ClieKun
01-05-2004, 09:21 AM
there is a chance if you have the software and a temp device connected to the IO port. Its a thought, but I like the Low tech idea better :D
Investa
01-05-2004, 10:07 AM
How about clipping this onto the lanyard ring?
http://www.wirelessalarm.com/NU260.htm
<g>
Mike
SpottyLayton
01-05-2004, 12:38 PM
I don't know if the S/W for myTemp w/ the NX80 (my guess it would work), but looking at the schematics it appears possible that one could determine the pin-out for the NX80. A serial hot-sync cable could be cannibalized to make the interface. It looks very doable.
If you email the author, i bet he would help you out.
Breizh92
01-07-2004, 10:46 AM
I don't think that the NX is a good medical thermometer... Too big!
kliro
01-07-2004, 01:07 PM
What do you want a thermometer for? If its hot its hot, if its cold its cold :)
leo_clie
01-07-2004, 01:40 PM
If its hot its hot, if its cold its cold
Yeah, hot means duck go swimming, cold means Snow-man are growing. Whatfor do you need anything at all? Why do you need a Clie, Internet, whatever? Everything is known direct in front of you. So, why any additional means at all?
Anyone know how to use my Clie to make toast?
Spikesdacoolest
01-07-2004, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by jwsp
Anyone know how to use my Clie to make toast?
You use you're CLIE RMC to constantly emmit IR beams and scan it back and forth over the bread to make toast ;) ...I've actually done it.Not really I'm just screwing with you.
seraphim_9:11
01-07-2004, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by leo_clie
Has anybody an idea, if I could use the my NX80 as some kind of thermometer? I see there is MyTemp, but this is somehow limited to Palm and NX/NR excluded. So, does anybody know of a workaround, where to stick the interface to the Clie and then the temperature is recorded to the Clie?
well if MyTemp exists then there is definetly something out there for the NX/NR - find out from Sony or Google it ... you will end up with something - the low end solution is the best because Clies are notorious for the compatibility issues with third party apps.
Maybe you could try replacing your stylus with a termometer? :D
BMEngineer
01-08-2004, 12:57 AM
I don use my CLIE as a thermometer.
leo_clie
01-08-2004, 04:24 AM
Oh my god, seems the whole thread get's more funny:p
Didn't thought that somebody on this forum has also some kind humor. ThanX - a least the temperature is raising. :cool:
makoman
01-08-2004, 11:43 AM
You can probably use this:
http://www.datastick.com/das1245.html
But you will need an external thermometer still as this just processes a voltage. Don't want to discuss how to build one as I would just go with the cheap version discussed earlier!
If you really want mytemp to work, don't be afraid to email the author!
Originally posted by Breizh92
I don't think that the NX is a good medical thermometer... Too big!
Have you tried it?:confused: :eek:
Breizh92
01-09-2004, 10:16 AM
No!!! Do you know how (and where) we use medical thermometer in Europe?
the Sony ericcson's T68i has an internal temperature guard, if connected via Bluetooth you can see the Battery and device temperature. I think this is measured by the Li-Ion battery. If so, you need an interface to get to the battery datas. While you can access this via serial Bluetooth woul be another cool thing. Unfortunately this needs some heavy programming. Any volunteers??
craig-a-rooney
02-20-2004, 11:56 AM
Go to a pet store and in their fishy section they have thermographic stickers (the kind you stick to aquarium glass). Stick one to the outside of the flipscreen.
It's low-tech, but also zero-impact on the form-factor (I love hyphenated-words).
What I want is a shaver attachement for the CF slot (I think BRAUN makes one).
u saying you can keep fish in your clie, craig-a-rooney? can you tell me where to find the drivers? does it have to have those little snails to keep the glass clean, or is there a work-around?
bluestar
02-21-2004, 05:27 AM
Well there seems to be a way to make a high tech Termometer of your Clie NX70. I Found this on the legendary PSPILOT page:
http://www.pspilot.de/pppnx70/pppnx70.html
snap...
Starting again on top, you find the AD7873. This is a fast A/D converter which digitizes the touch screen position and converts the battery voltage. A look at the datasheet of the AD7873 (http://www.analog.com/UploadedFiles/Datasheets/160614544AD7873_b.pdf) reveals, that it has also an integrated temperature sensor for temperatures between -40 and +80 degrees celcius. Too bad, that the OS doesn't read out that value ... anyone out there who feels challenged <g>?
...snap
So there you go
mailrail
02-21-2004, 12:00 PM
You mean the remote control DOESN'T double as a rectal thermometer? And all this time I've been sticking this thing up my ....? Wait til I catch that salesman at Circuit City!!! Son of a ....
leo_clie
02-22-2004, 04:08 AM
Does this really mean, that the AD7873 has temp sensors but the NX device do NOT read the values? So, *only* retrieve it?
bluestar
03-03-2004, 12:26 PM
I think so!
By the way: The link I posted previously was broken. You wil find the new datasheet here:
http://www.analog.com/Analog_Root/productPage/productHome/0%2C2121%2CAD7873%2C00.html
The temperature sensor is rated from -40 to +85 deg C Accuracy is +-2 deg C and resolution is 0.3 deg C
Just loock yourself! Anyone who wants to write a program??
avega
03-03-2004, 06:12 PM
Clié Termometer???
ha,ha,ha CRAZY!!! :D
ClieKun
03-04-2004, 01:53 AM
so is this a open call for programers?!
leo_clie
03-04-2004, 03:32 AM
You volunteer?:D
ClieKun
03-04-2004, 08:56 AM
well.heheheheh I have to see it to believe it :D
I've found my Clie NX70V very helpful in making jam and jelly. Suspend it by a thread in the liquid as you heat it, and you can very easily tell when it gets past optimum temperature.
ClieKun
03-07-2004, 08:08 AM
The Thread that never dies :D
Kanakanak
03-07-2004, 11:33 AM
Even if a temperature sensing system had been designed into a Clie, the Clie could do is only measure its own temperature, not that of the external vicinity. So unless you wanted to measure the processor temperature or something like that, it would do no good. It would have to require an external sensor not affected by the PDA's own heat, in which case the low-tech solution becomes very practical. Even if you found a high-tech sensor, with possibly a wired or bluetooth connection, about the only thing the PDA would be good for is recording the sensor's output.
anand78
03-07-2004, 10:01 PM
It seems to be doable and best it is a software solution rather than a hardware solution. I come from steel industry and we use a Temperature gun to find the Temperature of Steel. Basically the Gun is nothing but a IR fucussed on the Steel which measures the reflection to tell the temperature. Clie has a IR slot and also a reader so if someone does some programming to find the change in intensity that should solve the problem.
Kanakanak
03-07-2004, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by anand78
It seems to be doable and best it is a software solution rather than a hardware solution. I come from steel industry and we use a Temperature gun to find the Temperature of Steel. Basically the Gun is nothing but a IR fucussed on the Steel which measures the reflection to tell the temperature. Clie has a IR slot and also a reader so if someone does some programming to find the change in intensity that should solve the problem.
How narrow would the angle of sensitivity have to be for this to be meaningful? Isn't the Clie's detection angle pretty wide, whereas those IR temperature guns have a fairly narrow field of view?
leo_clie
03-08-2004, 02:33 AM
Oh' with IR. So, the enhanced IR could be used? But then how to receive it?
So, you don't have to plunge your Clie into the Jelly to measure it's temperature? :p But then how to measure the air temp? Another open call for developers:o
ClieKun
03-08-2004, 07:05 AM
Yet no takers :(
Kanakanak
03-08-2004, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by leo_clie
Oh' with IR. So, the enhanced IR could be used? But then how to receive it?
So, you don't have to plunge your Clie into the Jelly to measure it's temperature? :p But then how to measure the air temp? Another open call for developers:o
You take readings of IR off of objects, not air itself, but you'll find after trial and error that readings off of certain surfaces will accurately correspond to the surrounding air temperature. Probably not jelly though.
Kanakanak
03-08-2004, 09:29 AM
Originally posted by ClieKun
Yet no takers :(
Yeah, no takers. Trouble is, it's easy to talk about this stuff and much harder to make it happen. Wish I knew how.This IR temp reading thing sounds kinda neat, actually...
winexprt
03-08-2004, 09:30 AM
I remember my Apple Newton 110 had this semi-hidden feature where if you held your tap on the clock icon for a few seconds it would give you the temp. no joke! Those of you who had the Newton will know what I'm talking about.
ClieKun
03-08-2004, 09:31 AM
I wish I can own one
Kanakanak
03-08-2004, 09:42 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ClieKun
I wish I can own one [/QUOTE
An Apple Newton 110? They roam around on ebay for around $30-$60. There's some on there now.
winexprt
03-08-2004, 09:46 AM
Wow. I still have mine and it's in perfect shape. I just don't think I could ever sell it...it holds a special place in my heart as my first ever PDA! ;)
You never forget your first, as they say! lol
ClieKun
03-08-2004, 09:47 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by winexprt
[B]Wow. I still have mine and it's in perfect shape. I just don't think I could ever sell it...it holds a special place in my heart as my first ever PDA! ;)
You never forget your first, as they say! lolhttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2791509334&category=4610
I seen a few on ebay
anand78
03-08-2004, 11:08 AM
So, you don't have to plunge your Clie into the Jelly to measure it's temperature?
Talk sense dude !! Steel is usually at 1500 to 3000 Degrees C so unless you want to be history you wont dip the temperature gun. Its all about contact less heat measurement. We used to measure the Hearth temerature from about 60-100 feet away from an Enclosed AC Glass Cabin.
leo_clie
03-09-2004, 03:53 AM
Hm' looked little bit around. As far as I see, there is no problem for sending IR out. But HOW to receive it:confused: I don't find any kind of hint at the developer sites about this :(
Kanakanak
03-09-2004, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by leo_clie
Hm' looked little bit around. As far as I see, there is no problem for sending IR out. But HOW to receive it:confused: I don't find any kind of hint at the developer sites about this :(
You know the Clie can receive IR, because it can not only send, but also receive files and data through the IR port. Seems, therefore, that the question then becomes how to program and calibrate this function for your temp detection purposes, not whether it can be done.
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