Legacy - Help With Quests

[Deaton]

As one of many beta testers I have a head start on most of the public and have completed about 70% of the game. If you have any problems with quests or questions about the game, post them here and I (and maybe some of the other players) will be glad to help.

[JaxMac]

HI Deaton,

Just red the review on the PDA 24/7 website and the description on Redshift's. I couldn't find a description of the storyline anywhere!

Hoping you could tell me if the storyline is adequate or if it's the typical RPG fare....

thanks!

[Deaton]

Originally posted by JaxMac
HI Deaton,

Just red the review on the PDA 24/7 website and the description on Redshift's. I couldn't find a description of the storyline anywhere!

Hoping you could tell me if the storyline is adequate or if it's the typical RPG fare....

thanks!

The "story line" consists of multible quests in each of the 3-4 main map areas. The first level, available in the shareware version, is fairly simple but they get progressively more difficult as the game progresses. I'm most of the way through the 3rd level and the efforts to solve and explore the different areas of the map are absolutely the best - on par with anything I have seen on the PC even. I dread what is waiting for me in final area...

[Tixx]

I've noticed a popup when you enter the town of Decrantes which says something to the effect of "you hear bottles and rumbling there is a tavern that might have companions..." I go to it and there are no companions or whatever:(

[Deaton]

Originally posted by Tixx
I've noticed a popup when you enter the town of Decrantes which says something to the effect of "you hear bottles and rumbling there is a tavern that might have companions..." I go to it and there are no companions or whatever:(

This is a hint (the only one you will get) that you can click on the barrel (and other items within the game) and open it to find stuff. You will need to face the barrel with it on the left of your screen and then tap it to open it.

The tavern is north of you. Look at your compass...

[volcanopele]

found out how to get companions. Didn't like my crop of companions so I am just me. Explored the entire town of Decrantes, got a shield and some leather armor, went to kick some spider butt. Fine with the lesser spiders, but the regular spiders, eggad.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Deaton


This is a hint (the only one you will get) that you can click on the barrel (and other items within the game) and open it to find stuff. You will need to face the barrel with it on the left of your screen and then tap it to open it.

The tavern is north of you. Look at your compass...

They tell you that one in the game:p I'll look again to see if I missed the tavern, but did not think that I did, but who knows. I seem to miss alot in this game even though I cover lots of ground.:rolleyes:
Thanks:)

[Deaton]

It's best to get your companions early on so that they can begin getting experience. If you don't like the selection, you can swap them out at the next town - or sometimes even subsequent visits to the same inn. (Be sure to take all their inventory items before sending them packing...)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
found out how to get companions. Didn't like my crop of companions so I am just me. Explored the entire town of Decrantes, got a shield and some leather armor, went to kick some spider butt. Fine with the lesser spiders, but the regular spiders, eggad.

I found opal rings, Amulets, preist necklace, gem necklace, necklace with medal, clothes, helmets, axe, money, potions...

I have to write down what those things do cuz I forget and they don't say when you find them.

[Deaton]

Originally posted by Tixx


I found opal rings, Amulets, preist necklace, gem necklace, necklace with medal, clothes, helmets, axe, money, potions...

I have to write down what those things do cuz I forget and they don't say when you find them.

Tixx, Don't worry about writing them down. If you open your inventory and tap on the item is will display a description ...

[orol]

legacy seems a nice game but unfortunately I never like RPG games (but I loved D&D! with real PG :-)

it's shame on infogrames they wanted so much royaltees on red shift for civ!

[orol]

legacy seems a nice game but unfortunately I never like RPG games (but I loved D&D! with real PG :-)

it's shame on infogrames they wanted so much royaltees on red shift for civ!

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Deaton


Tixx, Don't worry about writing them down. If you open your inventory and tap on the item is will display a description ...

It does, but not to the extent you see in the shops where you purchase those exact same items. None of my "found" necklaces list what they do, nor does the ring or amulet. On the other hand I found a shop somewhere that sold them and listed exactly what they do and to what extent (number scale).

[Deaton]

Originally posted by Tixx


It does, but not to the extent you see in the shops where you purchase those exact same items. None of my "found" necklaces list what they do, nor does the ring or amulet. On the other hand I found a shop somewhere that sold them and listed exactly what they do and to what extent (number scale).

Items with special attributes actually display them. Items that are "junk" just say AC:0 even though it may say that it is a magic amulet for example.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Deaton


Items with special attributes actually display them. Items that are "junk" just say AC:0 even though it may say that it is a magic amulet for example.

The necklaces when on display in a shop show adding strength, intelligence and something else. The opal ring says AC:0, but in the shop it was like +15 something and cost in the thousands of dollars. I'm just not understanding that.

[Deaton]

They are different necklaces - some have the ability to add attributes to you and others don't. Try buying the one that says it adds +15% of something and then look at it in your inventory...

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Deaton
They are different necklaces - some have the ability to add attributes to you and others don't. Try buying the one that says it adds +15% of something and then look at it in your inventory...

So a found item and a bought item of the same description can be of totally different use in this game? I'm not understanding the logic behind this part of the game. I mean potion found is the same as potion bough, Axe found is the same as Axe bought, Helmet found is the same as Helmet bough, money found is worth the same as the money you start with...so why would this not apply to necklaces and jewelery?

[darhorn]

The thing is, that items and swords can have different attributes put on with them

so an Axe found is exactly the same as an Axe bought, but an Axe bought is different from an Axe bought that has a +15 hp attached to it...

there are a number of swords in the game for example, and a lot may look the same, but have different magic attributes attached to them...

[Deaton]

Necklaces, jewelry, weapons, and armor can all have different attributes regardless of whether you bought them or found them. If you found an opal ring it amy or may not have the same properties as the one you found in a store - or even the next one that you found. They're all opal rings, but only some of them have special attributes and those attributes might change from one ring to the next.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Deaton
Necklaces, jewelry, weapons, and armor can all have different attributes regardless of whether you bought them or found them. If you found an opal ring it amy or may not have the same properties as the one you found in a store - or even the next one that you found. They're all opal rings, but only some of them have special attributes and those attributes might change from one ring to the next.

Thanks, just needed to know that was the factual logic in the game:)

[Tixx]

I can't even beat up the Gnomes:rolleyes:

[darhorn]

you know, I thought they were kinda tough too

[Deaton]

Originally posted by Tixx
I can't even beat up the Gnomes:rolleyes:

Wait till you come across the Liches - those guys are tough...

[darhorn]

no kidding... especially the Lich Lords, or the Ancient Liches

[Tixx]

Is there a manual for this that gives more detail on what buttons do what, what is mana...and things of that sort?

[Deaton]

Originally posted by Tixx
Is there a manual for this that gives more detail on what buttons do what, what is mana...and things of that sort?

There is some limited help built into the game (accessable through the main menu) but I think my review (you can get to it at http://www.redshift.hu/legacypalmfr.htm ) probably has the most information in it of anything written to date.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Deaton


There is some limited help built into the game (accessable through the main menu) but I think my review (you can get to it at http://www.redshift.hu/legacypalmfr.htm ) probably has the most information in it of anything written to date.

I just got done reading it before I asked about a manual. Your review helped lots. Thanks:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Deaton


There is some limited help built into the game (accessable through the main menu) but I think my review (you can get to it at http://www.redshift.hu/legacypalmfr.htm ) probably has the most information in it of anything written to date.

Oh, and I agree with some of your suggestions for the game such as marking the map and a larger view of it:) They were things I was thinking before reading you review:) The other ones I'd second as well.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Tixx: maybe you should try to go complete another quests first, if the Gnomes are too hard... For example, try to explore the first, starting small forest - there is a small cave where lives not too tough monsters (if you are not alone in the party, of course).
Or try to kill the spiders in the catacombs...

And of course if you find a lot of stuffs anywhere in the world, you can sell them in the shops to get extra money and buy better weapons, spells and armors.

Mana: this is the spell point's name. The mana potions (the blue potions) are for refill that, when you are out of mana because casting spells.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Tixx: maybe you should try to go complete another quests first, if the Gnomes are too hard... For example, try to explore the first, starting small forest - there is a small cave where lives not too tough monsters (if you are not alone in the party, of course).
Or try to kill the spiders in the catacombs...

And of course if you find a lot of stuffs anywhere in the world, you can sell them in the shops to get extra money and buy better weapons, spells and armors.

Mana: this is the spell point's name. The mana potions (the blue potions) are for refill that, when you are out of mana because casting spells.

:) I guess I killed all those green spiders which I think was a mission and didn't realize until now and need to try going back into that cave and getting those lizard monster guys in the forest. Thanks for the tips:)

I recently realized I could sell things and have made a little extra cash:)

Thanks for the mana use. I had no idea what it meant:)

[Sylon/Redshift]

Hey Tixx, the spiders WAS a quest! Did you talk with the bartender in the inn?

Potions, just for get it clear:
Blue, violet: refills mana (partyly, full)
Red, yellow: refills hit points (partly, full)
Green: just tap on that twice in a character's inventory, if that character is poisoned
Gray: if the character is paralyzed, try this to solve the problem :)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Hey Tixx, the spiders WAS a quest! Did you talk with the bartender in the inn?

Potions, just for get it clear:
Blue, violet: refills mana (partyly, full)
Red, yellow: refills hit points (partly, full)
Green: just tap on that twice in a character's inventory, if that character is poisoned
Gray: if the character is paralyzed, try this to solve the problem :)

I talked with him in the beginning, but maybe I need to go back now. I like this game:)

I guess I need things defined, like what is a "hit point"? I'm not a big "gamer" person so that stuff is all new to me like mana is our ability to cast spells or whatever...thing like that:) So yes, I'm quite the novice here and appologize for any not so brilliant questions in advance:)

[Deaton]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Hey Tixx, the spiders WAS a quest! Did you talk with the bartender in the inn?

Let me clearify things - not all the spiders are a quest - just those in the catacombs in the south part of town...

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Deaton


Let me clearify things - not all the spiders are a quest - just those in the catacombs in the south part of town...

<note to self: find catacombs in south part of town> Don't think I have come across that yet in that town that starts with the letter "D".
Thanks:)

[darhorn]

hit points are a measure of health, and how much damage you can take before dying...

like my character has 190 hps, so can take that my points of damage before getting turned int a grey skull :)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by darhorn
hit points are a measure of health, and how much damage you can take before dying...

like my character has 190 hps, so can take that my points of damage before getting turned int a grey skull :)

Cool:) That explains what some of those little numbers mean:) Thanks.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Of course, David, of course. But when Tixx talks again with the bartender, he will know what to do. (I hope. :) )

Just a tip, Tixx: you can break some cracked walls, when you hit them...

Tixx: hit points are your lifeforce. The green stripe below your character's face. When it comes down to zero, you'll die.
The blue stripe is the mana (or spell points). When it comes down to zero, you cannot cast more spells, you need to refill them. (With the potions, healing spells, or with sleeping in the tavern.)

You always can see your exact attributes in the inventory's second page (attributes). Hit points: Hp. Spell points: Sp.
Strength: Str, Dexterity: Dex, and so on.
These things determines your ability to get further in the game, kill tougher monsters, cast greater spells, etc.

[Sylon/Redshift]

BTW, David: I just heard from Stewe that you have some difficulties with the Home of Ignorance dungeon... :) Did you solved that yet?
Remember: you can turn around sometimes, not just go and go forward in the passages and teleporters. :)

[Tixx]

So:
Dam: is how much damage I can do per swing or hit
Ac: My armor or protection
Hp: How many points I have to lose in battle
Sp: Spell points I have left to use to cast spells
Str: strength
Dex: Dexterity
End: Endurance
Int: Intelligence

[eric2002]

hey all,
I loaded this game last night... It looks seriously awesome, and a game I would love to purchase.

However, the game keeps crashing on me. I am using a Clie NZ90, everytime I attack with a spell or weapon the game freezes. Also I noticed that I can not play this game from the memory stick (using zlauncher).

So, I loaded the game onto the internal RAM, gave myself an extra 3 megs of free space on the internal RAM, and it still crashes on attack??? Anyone have a solution, or had this happen???

I desperately want to play this game!!!

[eric2002]

..oh also,
anyone playing this in landscape mode??? I don't seem to see any option to switch to landscape mode???

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Of course, David, of course. But when Tixx talks again with the bartender, he will know what to do. (I hope. :) )

Just a tip, Tixx: you can break some cracked walls, when you hit them...

Tixx: hit points are your lifeforce. The green stripe below your character's face. When it comes down to zero, you'll die.
The blue stripe is the mana (or spell points). When it comes down to zero, you cannot cast more spells, you need to refill them. (With the potions, healing spells, or with sleeping in the tavern.)

You always can see your exact attributes in the inventory's second page (attributes). Hit points: Hp. Spell points: Sp.
Strength: Str, Dexterity: Dex, and so on.
These things determines your ability to get further in the game, kill tougher monsters, cast greater spells, etc.

Wow. Didn't know about the wall thing either. I'll go back to the bartender:) Thanks guy for not making fun of all my questions:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by eric2002
..oh also,
anyone playing this in landscape mode??? I don't seem to see any option to switch to landscape mode???

On my NX70 it is determined when I open the game with a little "hotsync" like icon in the bottom right hand corner. Hit it and the view should change, then go into the game:)

[Tixx]

Here is another question: What are those little green water pools that show up on the map?

[eric2002]

Thanks Tixx,

also I noticed on the developer's site that they require 4megs of internal free RAM, think i'll do that and see if I have better luck.

curious, is anyone running this off the memory stick?? -from ZLauncher??

[Tixx]

And there looks like spider outlines on the walls in Cellar of Hranemus. Though that presure button has me stumped. I just killed all the Gnomes, but only have one person left on the brink of death.

[darhorn]

Tixx, I couldnt for the life of me figure out the wall thing either :) took me forever

[darhorn]

You can put something heavy on the switch to hold it down... think there are some rocks in there

[darhorn]

I dont think the green water pools are anything other than decoration :)

[Tixx]

Well, found the spiders thanks to one of the tips I was given:) I died, but at least know where they are;)

[eric2002]

Okay everything is working!! Running Legacy from the memory stick, and now I have the "landscape" and "sound" controls on the title screen. I think giving myself 4megs of free RAM solved the problem. prior to having 4megs free, i did not have the landscape option, couldn't run off memory stick, and it kept crashing! All is well now!!

[Tixx]

Originally posted by darhorn
You can put something heavy on the switch to hold it down... think there are some rocks in there

I did pic one up once, but didn't have it in this saved game. That is what I was thinking, but have to go find that one rock again:) Thanks

[Tixx]

Originally posted by darhorn
I dont think the green water pools are anything other than decoration :)

Hmmm...

[volcanopele]

I am going to restart the game. I can't beat all of the spiders up till the point where I put in the key and wow, more spiders, then death for all :( I am going after the lizards first, after getting some companions, then going after the spiders.

[Sylon/Redshift]

You are on your own, volcanopele?
Recruit quick some other party members! Without this, you always gonna die... If the current hirelings are not so good-loking to you in the inn, just sleep a while, and try to get other companions after 12 hours.

Your party must contain at least one magic user... A battlemage and a cleric is the best pair to the back of the party.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by eric2002
Thanks Tixx,

also I noticed on the developer's site that they require 4megs of internal free RAM, think i'll do that and see if I have better luck.

curious, is anyone running this off the memory stick?? -from ZLauncher??

I'm using ZL and noticed that saving games stays in RAM so you might want to move those to the Legacy ZL folder as well.:)

[volcanopele]

woohoo, killed the gnomes, the spiders, and the lizards!!

[volcanopele]

I now have a swordmaster, an adventurer, a cleric, and a battlemage :)

[Sylon/Redshift]

Good work. :) Now it's time to kick some wolf and rogue ***, I think...

But I hope you solved the quests belong to those monsters (spiders, lizards, gnomes) - and found the items what they guarded. :)

[volcanopele]

yes, I did. :) Now off finding some plant. But first, I need some potions.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
I am going to restart the game. I can't beat all of the spiders up till the point where I put in the key and wow, more spiders, then death for all :( I am going after the lizards first, after getting some companions, then going after the spiders.

I just re-started. Searched the entire forest, then the town and collected everything I could and saved right before entering the Inn to pick up some friends.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
yes, I did. :) Now off finding some plant. But first, I need some potions.

I got ahead of myself and when to that house that said something about the plant. Gotta get those Gnomes, Spiders and Lizards first.:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by darhorn
Tixx, I couldnt for the life of me figure out the wall thing either :) took me forever

I would have never guessed this an option because I didn't know the depth of the game. Glad they went further than I expected:)

[Sylon/Redshift]

Oh, just wait until the first really complex dungeon. :)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
woohoo, killed the gnomes, the spiders, and the lizards!!

I have finally done the same. Completed all 3 of those and now to gather berries or whatever:D

[Tixx]

What is this Morah level? I see it available at the site.

[volcanopele]

it is an add-on level that is supplimental to the current game.

BTW, I am now in the next town :) I am guessing that this means I am now on the second level? I am hoping I can start making some real money soon. I can't buy much more than healing potions for each round of combat. I have gotten up to 1200 before going after N'Gora.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
it is an add-on level that is supplimental to the current game.

BTW, I am now in the next town :) I am guessing that this means I am now on the second level? I am hoping I can start making some real money soon. I can't buy much more than healing potions for each round of combat. I have gotten up to 1200 before going after N'Gora.
Thanks:)

Yea, got cash from the inn keeper, but others just gave gifts and I need some money for potions and life.:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
it is an add-on level that is supplimental to the current game.

BTW, I am now in the next town :) I am guessing that this means I am now on the second level? I am hoping I can start making some real money soon. I can't buy much more than healing potions for each round of combat. I have gotten up to 1200 before going after N'Gora.

Too bad you could not have kept the gold and used it to buy stuff.

[volcanopele]

How much can I get for this giant chunk of gold?

[volcanopele]

and that d@mn pushy person wanting that gem :mad:. Even worse than the crazy guy.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
How much can I get for this giant chunk of gold?

I'm just saying it's too bad you could not do that. You can only give it to the guy for all I can see.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
and that d@mn pushy person wanting that gem :mad:. Even worse than the crazy guy.

I still need to find that gem.

[volcanopele]

I found it. It is, findable. Just do what you said you were doing in another thread, searching through the entire level, you'll find it.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Vulcanopele: you killed N'Gora? Whoa. Yep, if you see gray 'plaster' housewalls around yourself, you are in the second city. :) If you don't register the game, you never can be here - so, you registered it. :)
More cash? Well, if you clear every barrels, vases, 'decorative doors' and sell anything unnecessary stuff, your cash will be higher.
And of course you can play some card game in the taverns to get more. :)

When I play the game, I never purchase 'healing potions', because I always use what I find in barrels and vases, and cast the healing spells of my cleric. So I need just mana potions. :)

The Morah level is an add-on level, for characters up to level 2-3. Just load it, install in Legacy's directory, and of you go in a Global Teleport, you'll find Morah's name on the map list (with green colour - the normal maps are always with gray).

Trixx: you'll find the gem soon - before the second city. (I hope. :) )

[dforsyth]

1) I'm stuck in "Tower Level 1", how do I get past the pits by "servant of fire - guarded by secrets" and "Servant of Ice - guarded by secrets"?

2) What can you use "Father Hranemus' key" for?

3) What can you use the "Amazon key" for?

[Sylon/Redshift]

Wow, you are in the Tower? You are quick. :)

1. Search for secret buttons on the walls for these rooms... There are 2 rooms (connected by a teleporter), and the 2 secret buttons closes 1-1 non-moving holes in the other room. :)

2-3: You don't need these keys - if you don't ever want to go back in Hranemus' cellar or the Amazon-Barbar Cave again...

[Deaton]

I finished the Home of Ignorance (I felt right at home there... as confused as a termite in a yoyo...) after spending more than a few hours drawing out the entire level on graph paper.

Next I tried my hand at the Home of Patience. I have explored the areas to the North, East, and West and have gotten 2 winged keys (from the east and west) but can't find anywhere to use the keys (of the red or gold winged keys for that matter...) and no orb at all. What am I missing?

[Sylon/Redshift]

Finishing the Ignorance map: congratulations!!! But you don't need to draw the level on a paper, just don't go always forward and forward - turn back sometimes. :)

Home of Patience: ugh... This is Stewe's map, so let's wait for his answer... All what I know for sure is you must search for secret buttons on the walls - always, in this map. Or ask Darhorn to give you his map - he exported the whole map as a picture if I remember it correct...

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
I found it. It is, findable. Just do what you said you were doing in another thread, searching through the entire level, you'll find it.

Cool:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Vulcanopele: you killed N'Gora? Whoa. Yep, if you see gray 'plaster' housewalls around yourself, you are in the second city. :) If you don't register the game, you never can be here - so, you registered it. :)
More cash? Well, if you clear every barrels, vases, 'decorative doors' and sell anything unnecessary stuff, your cash will be higher.
And of course you can play some card game in the taverns to get more. :)

When I play the game, I never purchase 'healing potions', because I always use what I find in barrels and vases, and cast the healing spells of my cleric. So I need just mana potions. :)

The Morah level is an add-on level, for characters up to level 2-3. Just load it, install in Legacy's directory, and of you go in a Global Teleport, you'll find Morah's name on the map list (with green colour - the normal maps are always with gray).

Trixx: you'll find the gem soon - before the second city. (I hope. :) )

I'll do some more looking for that gem. And Trix are for kids!:p

Anyways, what are the rules to that card game? I just put cards down and have no clue what I am doing as I end up with nothing.:rolleyes:

[volcanopele]

Blasting my way through :)

Now on tower level 1. Finished killing amazons, barbarians, and ogres. yeah!! Have one of the keys in the hole puzzle room now it is just a matter of time before I get the second one. Probably will go back for more mana :)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
Blasting my way through :)

Now on tower level 1. Finished killing amazons, barbarians, and ogres. yeah!! Have one of the keys in the hole puzzle room now it is just a matter of time before I get the second one. Probably will go back for more mana :)

Getting way ahead of me here:) I just remembered some advice and that was to sell things I didn't need (well at least think I don't need at the moment) to raise some cash. I sold a fancy cane with endurance and a knife with +1 poison all for more mana before dealing with the outlaws. We'll see. I didn't want to give up those items, but needed mana bad and they were worth alot to sell. Around $600

[volcanopele]

Now have both keys. Now trying to figure out these holes at servant of fire - guarded by secrets, as described above.

Thing are starting to hit their stride now. For me, I am now specializing my characters in either blades and swords while selling hammers, clubs, and daggers when I find them.

Biggest developm ent, my cleric now knows teleportation :)

[lordgeejay]

Did anybody here complete the Morah's Plan map? I'm stuck with the room with multiple doors with keyholes.

[volcanopele]

Level one of the 2nd world tower complete.

AHHHH!!! Gnomes!!!

[Sylon/Redshift]

Tixx: well, just for a test, I restarted the whole game again, and here are my current state after arriving the 2nd city (and completed killing N'Gora, of course): after purchasing 1-1 sabre for my fighters (for 1000-1000 gold!) I have now another 2000 gold!!
Of course I sell every items I don't need (yeah, the wolf's fur is also saleable).
So the demo section (the first game section) is not too hard, if you know the correct way, and complete all quests. :)

The card game: it's a very simple game, every card contains a spell from the game (protective or offensive), and you must 'kill' the opposite player - his hit points must coming down to zero.

Lordgeejay: well, the doors which are 'guarded' by 1-1 floor swithces, are just stucked - hit them to make them open.
Of course it's not the most important thing in this map - try to find secret buttons, get some keys, and open the main door in the room what contains many coloured floor switches - but remember what said you a guy in the city from this room. :)

[Sylon/Redshift]

Vulcanopele: specializing is a good choice - if you have characters which can be specialized. :) For example, a knight can use very well blades, but a swordmaster not - this class excels with swords and sabres, of course. And so on.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Tixx: well, just for a test, I restarted the whole game again, and here are my current state after arriving the 2nd city (and completed killing N'Gora, of course): after purchasing 1-1 sabre for my fighters (for 1000-1000 gold!) I have now another 2000 gold!!
Of course I sell every items I don't need (yeah, the wolf's fur is also saleable).
So the demo section (the first game section) is not too hard, if you know the correct way, and complete all quests. :)

The card game: it's a very simple game, every card contains a spell from the game (protective or offensive), and you must 'kill' the opposite player - his hit points must coming down to zero.

Lordgeejay: well, the doors which are 'guarded' by 1-1 floor swithces, are just stucked - hit them to make them open.
Of course it's not the most important thing in this map - try to find secret buttons, get some keys, and open the main door in the room what contains many coloured floor switches - but remember what said you a guy in the city from this room. :)

Alright, I complete 5 all five missions and Killed N'Gora. Dumbest thing I did so far is with the spikes coming out of the ground. I walked on them (and then the "action gamer" in me wanted to jump around or something) and then stepped on them again:rolleyes: I killed my mage and almost my whole crew. They were on the brink of death.

Got a replacement battlemage now and am in the second town.

Questions:
What are "charges" that go with some of the wands and stuff? And how do you get them?

Is there a place that defines the scrolls and books to better know what they do?


Things I really liked:
Graphics of people in the beginning of the N'Gora section (very cool!).

The lichen stone in the woods:)

Picking flowers for peace:)...

[pontif]

What is a "Detect Mind" spell and what does it do?

Also what is the effect of "Bless"?

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[Sylon/Redshift]

Tixx: you replaced a level 5 mage for a level 1 battlemage? Not so good deal... Or you get the battlemage in the second city's 2nd level inn? Then it's OK, it contains level 5 characters. (But stays open only at night-time.)
I hope you know that you can advance your characters' attributes when you gain a new experience level. :)
Charge: it's just shows how many spell is in the staff. Useful only for non-magic users, I think... (For example: a dull highlander also can cast 'raise dead' spell a few times - but he must pay for that hard. :) )

Pontif: in your inventory/magic screen you can read detailed info from every spell you have. (Just tap on the spell's name.)
Detect mind: shows a monster's level and actual hit points. Useful against BIG monsters. :) Or if you want to know exactly how many damage you did on the enemy last time.
Bless: increases you attack skill (dexterity, strentgh) for a while. The effect (and every spell's effect) depends on the spell caster's intelligence.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Tixx: you replaced a level 5 mage for a level 1 battlemage? Not so good deal... Or you get the battlemage in the second city's 2nd level inn? Then it's OK, it contains level 5 characters. (But stays open only at night-time.)
I hope you know that you can advance your characters' attributes when you gain a new experience level. :)
Charge: it's just shows how many spell is in the staff. Useful only for non-magic users, I think... (For example: a dull highlander also can cast 'raise dead' spell a few times - but he must pay for that hard. :) )

Pontif: in your inventory/magic screen you can read detailed info from every spell you have. (Just tap on the spell's name.)
Detect mind: shows a monster's level and actual hit points. Useful against BIG monsters. :) Or if you want to know exactly how many damage you did on the enemy last time.
Bless: increases you attack skill (dexterity, strentgh) for a while. The effect (and every spell's effect) depends on the spell caster's intelligence.

A live level one is better than a dead level 5. My battle mage has made it to level 4 now and I protected her with some charms for the time being:)

So there is no re-charge on those and they are just useless after the charges are gone?

[Tixx]

For your definition of the Curse spell it says:

"Lowers the damage and defenses of an enemy..."

I think you'd mean

"Increases the damage and lowers the defenses of an enemy..."

but am not sure

[Tixx]

And I don't understand the definition of Betzerker: "This spell will improve damage (increase or decrease and for whom?) but will reduce defense (again not clear)

I think it means "Increase damage to enemy, but decrease your defense"

[Tixx]

Oh, and finally, one cannot know what a spell does until they have it I notice.:)

[lordgeejay]

Originally posted by Tixx
For your definition of the Curse spell it says:

"Lowers the damage and defenses of an enemy..."

I think you'd mean

"Increases the damage and lowers the defenses of an enemy..."

but am not sure

I think the original definition is correct. It lowers the enemy's damage towards your characters as well as its defense from your characters.

[lordgeejay]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Lordgeejay: well, the doors which are 'guarded' by 1-1 floor swithces, are just stucked - hit them to make them open.
Of course it's not the most important thing in this map - try to find secret buttons, get some keys, and open the main door in the room what contains many coloured floor switches - but remember what said you a guy in the city from this room. :)

Ah thanks a lot. I'll try that later. :)

[Sylon/Redshift]

Tixx: you can load the latest saved game, if one of your characters is dead. :)
Spells: the curse reduces the enemy's attributes. Damage and defence. The original definition is correct.
Berzerker: I think it's also correct. :) Improves your damage (just see at your attributes), but reduces your defence.
Re-charge: yeah, there is no re-charge. So you better don't buy staffs if you already have magic user in the party. :) (Except if you don't have that spell in your spellbook yet.)

[lordgeejay]

No recharge huh? Then I guess I can drop my mage's charge-less staff somewhere now. ;) But it would be nice to be able to recharge these things at your local magic shop for 40-50gp a charge or something.

[volcanopele]

Okay, I am on the second level of the tower on level two. I solved the walls to walls puzzle to get behind the purple wall. I pretty much solved the teleporters to teleporters puzzle (at least I explored a whole lot of hidden walls). Anyways, the holes to holes things has me beat. The holes starting out are on some timed sequence. There is a warlock (or the like) kicking my @ss and I can't get near him because there is a permanent hole right in front of him. Now, I presume there is some switch or something but I am dumbfounded.

[volcanopele]

Update: Now finished with the second level of the tower on level two. Now on the threshold of level three. Going back for supplies before heading out to the third level of the tower.

And to think that I was worried I might be finished before Tuesday :eek: (I am flying back home that day and I intended for this game to be my entertainment for that trip)

[volcanopele]

Explored the third level of the tower on the second world (tip: graph paper and a pencil is a must for this level). Anyways, can some one give me a hint as to the point of this level. I pushed a couple of decrative buttons however I don't see any "seeing through walls". I don't know maybe I am just tired. Maybe it will make more sense in the morning...

[Sylon/Redshift]

Re-charge: yep, it was planned in the development (like so much other things) - and skipped, because the lack of time. :) Maybe in the next version, or in the mission pack...
But if you purchased the staff in a shop, you can sell it, if it's empty! You don't lose money. (Just a tip: the 2nd city's 2nd level shop - which stays open only night-time - is better for selling items... Just test it. It's a costly place.)
And yeah: ranged weapons are also planned in the future! Like a bow in the cleric's or mage's hand, if he/she is out of mana, but want to do something in a battle. :)

Vulcanopele: thinking of finishing the game before Christmas?? It's maybe a joke. :) You are now (Tower level 3) still in the first half of the game. :)

The Tower level 3: yeah, needs some graph paper to make it clear. (If you don't step into any secret teleporters which can pretty much confuse the whole mapping. :) ) The levers moving walls to clear a way in the west side.
The 'seeing throuh walls' just want to mean that without mapping, your only chance would be that to get across this level. Sorry, my English is not the best, so if some hint or definition is not clear in the game, just ask. :D

[RalphSchreiber]

I've searched the entire level 2 times. Where is this gem?????

Is there any trick?

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Ralph

[lordgeejay]

Re-charge: yep, it was planned in the development (like so much other things) - and skipped, because the lack of time. Maybe in the next version, or in the mission pack...

Ah. That's okay. I understand that you must have wanted all these features in at the start but just didn't have the time/resources to tick them all off for this release. :)

But if you purchased the staff in a shop, you can sell it, if it's empty! You don't lose money.

Yep. That's what I did. The only empty staff I dropped is the free one that came with the character.

(Just a tip: the 2nd city's 2nd level shop - which stays open only night-time - is better for selling items... Just test it. It's a costly place.)

Ah. Thanks for that tip. Will do that next time.

]And yeah: ranged weapons are also planned in the future! Like a bow in the cleric's or mage's hand, if he/she is out of mana, but want to do something in a battle.

Yeah! That would be great in the future. :) Anyway, so far I'm living off my two mages at the back casting fire blast spells with lots of mana bottles.

[pontif]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Pontif: in your inventory/magic screen you can read detailed info from every spell you have. (Just tap on the spell's name.)
Detect mind: shows a monster's level and actual hit points. Useful against BIG monsters. :) Or if you want to know exactly how many damage you did on the enemy last time.
Bless: increases you attack skill (dexterity, strentgh) for a while. The effect (and every spell's effect) depends on the spell caster's intelligence.

Thanks, somehow I missed that.&nbsp; But it still doesn't tell me what a spell or scroll does that I'm looking at in a magic shop.

Anyway, I just wanted to say Great Game!!!&nbsp; Reminds me of Dungeon Master on the old Atari ST that I loved oh-so-many years ago.&nbsp; I was addicted then, and I'm addicted now.&nbsp; Until Legacy I've never really been a RPG gamer on the palm.&nbsp; It is the first one to really win me over.&nbsp; A game you guys can be very proud of.:) :D

[volcanopele]

I'm with pontif. this is a very nice game. I have never been a big RPG player (in fact the only other RPG game I have played to completion was Dragonfire). But this game is so involved, particularly for a game on my PDA, that I just can't put it down :)

Right now I have gotten through Level 4 of the World 2 tower. Still trying to figure out what to do next...

[Sylon/Redshift]

RalphSchreiber: what do you mean with 'entire level'? The first city? The first forest? The gem is in the first dungeon, behind a stucked door. (Not in a cave: in a dungeon.)

Pontif: thanks! :) We (Stewe and I) are also oldstyle rpg-lovers from the good-old C64-Atari-Amiga days. But nobody creates this type of rpg nowadays (everything is in blurred 3D now, but I just hate 3D in an rpg), so we must create it. :)
Yeah, you're right, maybe some of the next versions' help should include more info about the spells. Until that: just save a game before the magic shop, and try out everything. :)

[Sylon/Redshift]

Vulcanopele: you met Mersant? And finished the whole Tower? Wow. Then you must listen to some non-player characters in the 2nd city - one of them reveals the way further... (With Mersant you'll meet again later in the storyline, but not he is the 'key' of the way out.)

Just for a quick test: how many gold have you now?

[volcanopele]

Thanks, found it :)

[volcanopele]

4640 gold pieces BTW

EDIT: Son of a diddly. Okay, that's about to be a bit less. I need more potion.

[volcanopele]

Okay, make that 2291 gold pieces

[volcanopele]

Okay, I thought I figured it out...

EDIT: Now I have. A real roller coaster ride today :D

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Tixx: you can load the latest saved game, if one of your characters is dead. :)
Spells: the curse reduces the enemy's attributes. Damage and defence. The original definition is correct.
Berzerker: I think it's also correct. :) Improves your damage (just see at your attributes), but reduces your defence.
Re-charge: yeah, there is no re-charge. So you better don't buy staffs if you already have magic user in the party. :) (Except if you don't have that spell in your spellbook yet.)

I know, but that was so far back.(I save more often now) My new Battle Mage had caught up to level 8 with the rest of them now:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
Update: Now finished with the second level of the tower on level two. Now on the threshold of level three. Going back for supplies before heading out to the third level of the tower.

And to think that I was worried I might be finished before Tuesday :eek: (I am flying back home that day and I intended for this game to be my entertainment for that trip)

Ya, I thought you were going 24 hours straight or something.

I'm at the gates of the first tower. I feel like I missed something in the woods cuz I'm down a coin and magic hammer still, but I might be in there I guess. PM me VP if I missed something. All other quests given have been fulfilled.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Re-charge: yep, it was planned in the development (like so much other things) - and skipped, because the lack of time. :) Maybe in the next version, or in the mission pack...
But if you purchased the staff in a shop, you can sell it, if it's empty! You don't lose money. (Just a tip: the 2nd city's 2nd level shop - which stays open only night-time - is better for selling items... Just test it. It's a costly place.)
And yeah: ranged weapons are also planned in the future! Like a bow in the cleric's or mage's hand, if he/she is out of mana, but want to do something in a battle. :)

Vulcanopele: thinking of finishing the game before Christmas?? It's maybe a joke. :) You are now (Tower level 3) still in the first half of the game. :)

The Tower level 3: yeah, needs some graph paper to make it clear. (If you don't step into any secret teleporters which can pretty much confuse the whole mapping. :) ) The levers moving walls to clear a way in the west side.
The 'seeing throuh walls' just want to mean that without mapping, your only chance would be that to get across this level. Sorry, my English is not the best, so if some hint or definition is not clear in the game, just ask. :D

Would love to see a bow and arrow option:) Longer distance fighting techniques

[volcanopele]

I am now in World 3 :)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
I am now in World 3 :)

Go VP!:D

[Sylon/Redshift]

Vulcanopele: and you finished the bartender's 'coin' quest in the 2nd world? (The reward is important against undeads. :) )

Tixx: the fifth coin is in the Tower, so you're right. (Every map contains 1 coin in this world.) But the magic hammer is outside, in a forest... Just remember what said the dwarf who gave the quest - 'someone' stealed from his town the hammer.

[volcanopele]

Yes, I even completed the coin quest. Interestingly, I had four coins for a while there, I unfortunately didn't look in some of the easiest of places :rolleyes: But yes, I am happy with my reward (I like glowing things :D )

[mrredsun]

I'm having an incredible amount of difficulty finding Father Hranemus' crucifix in the first town. I went down to his cellar and killed all the gnomes, but I can't locate his crucifix. Can anybody clue me in?

Thanks.

[lordgeejay]

Hmm... maybe somebody (who has finished the game at least once) could make a walk-thru document for people who are stuck. Of course, there is the possibility that some individuals will rely totally on it then claim the game was too easy.

As for the crucifix, it should be in that cellar. I had a hard time finding it back then. Sorry I can't remember the details on how I found it but it is there. Look for big cracks (as in big) on walls. Hit it. It may be hidden behind one.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Search for a secret button on the walls... Just tap on them. It must be there, close to the place where you found a magic staff.

Walkthrough: not a bad idea... The game includes much harder puzzles than these ones in the beginning... Vulcanopele will meet them shortly. :)

[lordgeejay]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Search for a secret button on the walls... Just tap on them. It must be there, close to the place where you found a magic staff.

Ah yes. Secret button. Now I remember. It's blended into the walls.

Walkthrough: not a bad idea... The game includes much harder puzzles than these ones in the beginning... Vulcanopele will meet them shortly. :)

Harder puzzles. Uh-oh. And I still can't get past that gate in a room with multi-coloured floor buttons in Morah's plan. Anyway, I just skipped that map for now and went on to world 2 for now. ;)

[mrredsun]

Thanks a bunch for your help! I guess that's one more thing I'll have to look for in the future.

[wongckel]

Hi all. I'm new here. This game is great. Reminds me of Might & Magic before it became 3D.

Am currently in Tower 1 and got a couple of questions:

1. In the 2nd city/town, there are 2 doors which are locked. Any idea where to get the keys?

2. Having reach this far, I have only 3 coins. Is this expected?

Any advice will be great.

[volcanopele]

1. Those two doors should be locked at this point. At this point, I wouldn't worry about them. However, after finishing the tower, you should have the necessary tools to open at least one of them. You can open the other if you go back and look for one more coin.
2. Starting at the tower, I had three as well. there was another one I should have found before the tower. The last one is in the tower.

[wongckel]

Thanx for the help.

I hope I didn't missed out any in the earlier stages else it would be very troublesome to go back and look for it. Btw, can you remember exactly where each coin was found?

Cheers.

[volcanopele]

Just a status update for me: I'm still in World three (I know, what a shock). All I can say is that, this one is really complex :eek: I am in the frozen dungeon right now. I just pulled a lever after punching come buttons on the wall and placing objects on floor sensors. At this point in the main room of the dungeon, I have two locked doors in the frozen dungeon and another locked door that I presume goes to the fire dungeon. I have quit for the day but tomorrow, I need to check out what that lever did and find out how to get to those two locked doors (which I presume gets me into the fire dungeon). I have the needed blade for any flying lizards I may come across.

[volcanopele]

Do any of your characters know the teleport spell? This helps in going back past any bothersome obstacles.

I'm sorry, I don't remember exactly where each coin was found. One is in town and three are out in the forest (or in associated caves) but I don't remember exactly where.

[wongckel]

It's ok. Thanx. I'll complete Tower 1 and see if I have the 5 coins else I'll go back and look.

[lordgeejay]

Originally posted by volcanopele
I'm sorry, I don't remember exactly where each coin was found. One is in town and three are out in the forest (or in associated caves) but I don't remember exactly where.
Aw... I was hoping you are writing down your progress. You could probably write-up a walkthru or something. :D

[Sylon/Redshift]

The 5 coins in the second World are in these maps:
- the city
- forest of amazons-barbarians
- cave of amazons-barbarians
- ogre forest
- tower level 1

Vulcanopele: well, the first half of the Frozen Empire is not so hard, you'll complete it with no extra help, I think.
But after that... :) Just a tip: on these maps, not only the 'big' cracks are breakable on the walls...

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Vulcanopele: and you finished the bartender's 'coin' quest in the 2nd world? (The reward is important against undeads. :) )

Tixx: the fifth coin is in the Tower, so you're right. (Every map contains 1 coin in this world.) But the magic hammer is outside, in a forest... Just remember what said the dwarf who gave the quest - 'someone' stealed from his town the hammer.

I didn't realize I already had it and gave it to my Highlander while selling her other hammer:rolleyes: Anyways, I went to my oldest saved game and found I still had both. What a relief:)

[Tixx]

Since installing ZLauncher4.00B5.3 I get Legacy crashes pretty consistantly:(

[dbytes]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
RalphSchreiber: what do you mean with 'entire level'? The first city? The first forest? The gem is in the first dungeon, behind a stucked door. (Not in a cave: in a dungeon.)


What dungeon? I can't seem to find this gem. I'm on level 1 on the Tower and I've went back but can't seem to find it.

I went back and finished Morah's Plan since Tower Level 1 is driving me crazy. Morah's Plan was fun little puzzle. Can the other doors in the bank be opened? Also, can the steps with the magical force field be penetrated?

BTW, great game. I purchased it the same day it came out. I finished DragonFire during the Christmas holiday last year and now Legacy is keeping me busy.

-JJ

[Sylon/Redshift]

Tixx: the coins are un-saleable, as I remember...
Your ZLauncher-problem is Stewe's job, let's wait for his answer.

Dbytes: the first dungeon is N'Gora's dungeon. You must complete it, because it's before the Tower, or anything else in the 2nd World. So you was there at least once if you are now in the Tower...
The Bank doors: they are just stucked, hit them.
Steps with magical force field: sorry, I don't remember this in Morah's Plan. Can you write me exactly the place where you found them?

[Tixx]

Originally posted by dbytes


What dungeon? I can't seem to find this gem. I'm on level 1 on the Tower and I've went back but can't seem to find it.


-JJ

Find the tree to enter behind the house of the peaceful man:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Tixx: the coins are un-saleable, as I remember...
Your ZLauncher-problem is Stewe's job, let's wait for his answer.

Dbytes: the first dungeon is N'Gora's dungeon. You must complete it, because it's before the Tower, or anything else in the 2nd World. So you was there at least once if you are now in the Tower...
The Bank doors: they are just stucked, hit them.
Steps with magical force field: sorry, I don't remember this in Morah's Plan. Can you write me exactly the place where you found them?

Ok. I just updated to 1.01 and see if that solves it - BTW the error number was 3654.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Tixx


Ok. I just updated to 1.01 and see if that solves it - BTW the error number was 3654.

Well, I did not have a crash yet, but the game just froze on me when checking my characters supplies.

And one thing I noticed upon freezings like this which has only occurred once before is that when I put the frozen device in the cradle, both the orange charging light and the green on light are on at the same time making an almost yellow color. This might be helpful in solving that:)

I have an NX70 with 5488kb of RAM free, running it from card using ZLauncher.

[Tixx]

For the Berzerker spell it says "This spell improves damages but reduces defense."

So I can damage the enemy more, but since that reduces my defenses it all allows the enemy to damage me more as well?

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Tixx


Well, I did not have a crash yet, but the game just froze on me when checking my characters supplies.

And one thing I noticed upon freezings like this which has only occurred once before is that when I put the frozen device in the cradle, both the orange charging light and the green on light are on at the same time making an almost yellow color. This might be helpful in solving that:)

I have an NX70 with 5488kb of RAM free, running it from card using ZLauncher.
Error 3650 just ocurred with version 1.01 upon exiting the game.

[Unregistered]

Hmm... I keep getting Fatal crashes, of various types on my TT. Actually the shareware worked great. After I purchased and registered, and played Morah's quest, I keep getting crashes. I disabled FitalyStamp, and all other stuff, and cleared up to 7.01MB (I use LauncherX if that helps), but it still crashes. There were two places that after resuming from saved game, it would crash consistently when doing something (opening a door, or trying to get to the gem shop in the second level, etc...). So much, so I think my save files have problems. I have restarted from scratch. Also, there was a crash upon exiting before, which causes a constant crash when starting Legacy. I solved that by erase the autosaved file (LegacySlot0 or something like that) in Filez and restarting Legacy.

Wonder who else running a TT and doing okay?

BTW, thanks for the tips on the Morah's quest. I got to the multicolored thingy and was stuck... I thought I tried beating on those stuck doors, but I guess not. Will try again in the future... Meanwhile, I'm back to redoing all the Level 1 quests... get those pesky spiders away!

[dbytes]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Dbytes: the first dungeon is N'Gora's dungeon. You must complete it, because it's before the Tower, or anything else in the 2nd World. So you was there at least once if you are now in the Tower...
The Bank doors: they are just stucked, hit them.
Steps with magical force field: sorry, I don't remember this in Morah's Plan. Can you write me exactly the place where you found them?

I just went back to N'Gora's and it said it was a cave so I just assumed that wasn't it. :)

Kick doors in...Why didn't I think of that.

The stairs with the Magical Force field was in the hall before the bank vault.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Morah's Plan: yep, I just got it. I thought that there is a Wall of Force, and searched for that with the Editor. :) But no, there is nothing like that. I think that was just Stewe's joke (he did this map), because that stair has no function. :)
Stewe is a funny guy: the stucked doors - which are 'guarded' by some floor switches, just for confusing - was also his idea. :)

Fatal crashes on some devices: well, Stewe is busy now with the 1.02 version. :D

Tixx: yeah, you're right. Berzerker is a spell that makes you crazy in a combat - and a crazy fighter don't care about his/her defence - but does bigger damages. :)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift


Fatal crashes on some devices: well, Stewe is busy now with the 1.02 version. :D

Tixx: yeah, you're right. Berzerker is a spell that makes you crazy in a combat - and a crazy fighter don't care about his/her defence - but does bigger damages. :)

Cool:)

and

Thanks for confirming what I thought it was:)

[Unregistered]

Update:

I do have 4 coins, one was with another character hence missed it. Have got the 5th one as well and got my reward.

Having completed the teleport puzzle, m now having incredible difficulty solving the "walls" puzzle in level 2 of tower 1. Tried to weigh down the floor plate with stones but it wouldn't. Any hints?????

[Sylon/Redshift]

Not all of them must be down... Just listen carefully what you hear if you step on them.

[redshift]

Sorry I have just a few minutes, I'm in a strong debugging. Almost every freeze and crash I saw in this topic is fixed now, or I'm just fixing it. The 1.02 will be out soon, maybe a few hours later, up to 1 day later. (based on fixing success).

Btw anybody has a saved game before a freeze or crash that may be interesting to check - please send it to stewe@redshift.hu.
I'll do my best to solve all problems asap.
I like errors that can be reproduced :p

Stewe

[volcanopele]

Having a few problems with the holes parts of the Fire empire. I have gone through every other door ecept these have holes that won't close in front of their repective magma servants. Otherwise so far so good.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Did you explored the whole 'check table'-like area of the Fire Empire? (To the south.) It contains a secret button what closes the two non-moving holes in two passages.
Otherwise you could send me your latest saved game ( sylon@redshift.hu ) and I'll see what can I do. Because maybe you have other problems - that map contains two "hard" places. :) One of them is a puzzle (with 6 doors, 6 shelves and 3 items) which is VERY hard... Deaton just got crazy during the beta testing when I revealed him the solution. :D

[Unregistered]

great game guys, I love it.

that said, i am stuck... i gave the dwarf the hammer, and got the key to the tower in city 2, but i cant figure out how to enter the tower. i have wandered all over the citym and tried the front gate, but i am just stumper. how do i enter the tower?

thanks in advance,

Anvar

[Unregistered]

sorry, i guess the real question is how do i get past the wall of force?

[redshift]

If you have a saved game where I can check exactly the problem, that would be wonderful! Checking these problems are in my todo list, with a high priority...

Stewe

[Sylon/Redshift]

Don't need a saved game in this case: that Wall of Force can be deactivated with the two levers in the Giant Cave of Amazons and Barbarians. (Under the forest.)

[redshift]

Ooops, the Architect (the Creator, the God) of that map is here :)))
*bow* :p

Stewe

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Don't need a saved game in this case: that Wall of Force can be deactivated with the two levers in the Giant Cave of Amazons and Barbarians. (Under the forest.)

Weird cuz I have had no idea how I was getting through these walls at all. I always made it through them, but never knew what I did to accomplish that.

[Tixx]

Oh, and I'm in the first part of the tower and have no idea how to get additional keys or get through the gates with holes in front of them:rolleyes:

[Tixx]

I'm in this part here, but don't have that many spell found as in the pic (don't have the undead, lightening bolt or fireball ones though I have paralysis which the screenshot does not have):

http://www.redshift.hu/legacypic/shot01.jpg

[Sylon/Redshift]

Tixx: holes problem in Tower level 1: please read back the forum... I just don't have time to write one by one for everybody the same solution for the same situation... (Just a tip: search for secret buttons on the two rooms' walls which contains the non-moving holes.)

The picture: well, this was made with a test-version, I travelled back through teleporters to get some great pictures from everywhere in the game. So just forget it. :) You'll have all the spells later...
Ah, and one more thing: the paralysis is in an another spell class, this picture contains only the 'attack' spell class. (As you can see from the spellbook's selected icon.)

[Sylon/Redshift]

Tixx:
"Weird cuz I have had no idea how I was getting through these walls at all. I always made it through them, but never knew what I did to accomplish that."

Weird cuz it's written on the wall, right beside that lever. :D ("Guardian of the Tower") So that lever deactivates the Wall which guards the Tower. Of course.

And yeah, in the 2 rooms (which contains the 2 non-moving holes) there is also a pergamen, which says: "Guarded by secrets" - so you have to search for secrets in that 2 rooms...
Of course. :D

[lordgeejay]

I'm already in world 2 and going through it but I wasn't able to complete Morah's plan. And it has always been itching me to get back there and finish it.

I still can't get through that door in the room with the multi-coloured buttons on the floor. I have Bank inner safe keys "A" and "B" but the 2 keyholes in this room don't unlock. There is a switch here that doesn't seem to do anything.

What am I missing here? Any help would be appreciated. I just want this map behind me. ;)

[lordgeejay]

Also, I do not remember the "hint" given by the keymaker about these doors. Or is that hint not important at all?

It's now that I realise that having a log of all the past conversations valuable. A feature like that would be very helpful. :)

[RalphSchreiber]

Do you have some rocks with you?

&nbsp;

Ralph

[Sylon/Redshift]

Some other heavy items are also suitable...
Yes, the keymaker's hint was important. Here we go:
"Another problem: you can't move from one of the keyholes to reach the other, when you're about to open the inner safe. A trick must be applied, that's your business."
I hope it helps... :)

[Sylon/Redshift]

Yeah, Legacy 1.02 finally released... Just download it from our site ( www.redshift.hu ), or from Handango, Palmgear, etc.

Changes in 1.02:
- less memory used - improved stability on T,T2, Zire 71
- drawing fix after power on (Tungsten E, Zire 71)
- rotated keys in landscape mode (T3)
- sound fix (Zodiac)
- support for application keys (T,T2,...)
- stuck door bug fix - all devices
- fixed map scrolling problems - all devices
- minor modifications - all devices
- from 1.01: solved DIA problems on T3

And of course the UX version is under development... :)

[fancyland]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Did you explored the whole 'check table'-like area of the Fire Empire? (To the south.) It contains a secret button what closes the two non-moving holes in two passages.
Otherwise you could send me your latest saved game ( sylon@redshift.hu ) and I'll see what can I do. Because maybe you have other problems - that map contains two "hard" places. :) One of them is a puzzle (with 6 doors, 6 shelves and 3 items) which is VERY hard... Deaton just got crazy during the beta testing when I revealed him the solution. :D

Would you tell me how can i solve this puzzle about 6 doors,6 shelves and 3 items?

I have updated the game to 1.02.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Just some hint:
There are a hidden pergamen here (behind a cracked wall), which says: "pair of doors - pair of shelves".
Well, you have 6 doors (see them!), and 6 shelves - but only 3 (worthless) items on them. Which shelf is the pair of which shelf, and what must you do with the items?
THINK. :)
If you do it right, you'll receive a message: "you hear a door opening". Three times. (Three closed doors are in the end of this whole passage.)

[fancyland]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Just some hint:
There are a hidden pergamen here (behind a cracked wall), which says: "pair of doors - pair of shelves".
Well, you have 6 doors (see them!), and 6 shelves - but only 3 (worthless) items on them. Which shelf is the pair of which shelf, and what must you do with the items?
THINK. :)
If you do it right, you'll receive a message: "you hear a door opening". Three times. (Three closed doors are in the end of this whole passage.)

I tried to do but i don't know your hints. Please tell me how can i do this. Thanks you!

[fancyland]

Good£¡ I do this £¡Thanks your hints£¡

[Sylon/Redshift]

I just sent you a private message, hope you received it. :)

[fancyland]

I killed an ice dragon and a fire dragon. I found three key.The one is an ice dragon key , the other is a fire dragon key, the last is a redshift key . I used the ice key and fire key to open door but i cann't find which door the redshift key can be uesd.

Sylon , Can you help me ?

[Sylon/Redshift]

You found the Redshift Key? Wow! You are the first! This is the super-secret part of the game, so I just can't reveal this, sorry. :) You must find the right door for it - but don't panic, it's not a necessary thing, you can go further in the game.
Try to find the third Dragon somewhere in the swamp. :)

[fancyland]

Is that the super-secret part of the game? I am expecting for this.

But i had killed the Mucous Dragon in the dragon swamp for a long time. Now I have anything to do. I try to pass the magic wall on the south in the city but it push me back.

Can you give me some hints?

[fancyland]

May i get the last Magic Book for Mersant Orasare when i kill the the Mucous Dragon ?

Can i pass the magic wall on the south in the city after i collect three Magic Books to Mersant Orasare?

But i still remember i have get nothing when i kill the the Mucous Dragon .

[Sylon/Redshift]

Yes, you're right. All you need is now the third book - but this is owned by the dragon in the swamp! Maybe you just failed to notice that. Go back again where you killed him.

[fancyland]

I go back the dragon swamp again but I can't find the Mucous Dragon.So I have sleeped in the inn for four days and I go back the dragon swamp again but I stlill can't find itself.

I use 1.0 to play When I killed the Mucous Dragon.

Now I update to 1.02.

Maybe is it Program Bug?

[Sylon/Redshift]

No, it's not a bug. You don't have to find the Dragon itself, just the items what he left behind when you killed him.
Or, if you want to kill him again :), just sleep in the inn for 7 days - the maps refreshes in every week.

[darhorn]

I had the redshift key for quite a long time... but wasnt sure if I had used it then picked it up again when it respawned... Damn, now have to go back and find the door that it goes to!

[fancyland]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
No, it's not a bug. You don't have to find the Dragon itself, just the items what he left behind when you killed him.
Or, if you want to kill him again :), just sleep in the inn for 7 days - the maps refreshes in every week.

I have searched everywhere in the Dragon Swamp but I can't find the Magic Book . So I sleep in the inn for 8 days to wait the refreshes in game but I still can't see the Dragon except two Medusas.

How can I solve the problem ?

May I mail the savefile of game to you and you can use it to check what's the problem?

[Sylon/Redshift]

Yes, just mail it to me at sylon@redshift.hu

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Tixx: holes problem in Tower level 1: please read back the forum... I just don't have time to write one by one for everybody the same solution for the same situation... (Just a tip: search for secret buttons on the two rooms' walls which contains the non-moving holes.)

The picture: well, this was made with a test-version, I travelled back through teleporters to get some great pictures from everywhere in the game. So just forget it. :) You'll have all the spells later...
Ah, and one more thing: the paralysis is in an another spell class, this picture contains only the 'attack' spell class. (As you can see from the spellbook's selected icon.)

Thanks:)

And if anything in the future is a repeat just point me to the posts or where it was answered prior. I don't want to make you constantly repeat yourself.:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Tixx:
"Weird cuz I have had no idea how I was getting through these walls at all. I always made it through them, but never knew what I did to accomplish that."

Weird cuz it's written on the wall, right beside that lever. :D ("Guardian of the Tower") So that lever deactivates the Wall which guards the Tower. Of course.

And yeah, in the 2 rooms (which contains the 2 non-moving holes) there is also a pergamen, which says: "Guarded by secrets" - so you have to search for secrets in that 2 rooms...
Of course. :D

Alright, enough making fun of me. I'm not a "gamer" type person so do not know that "gardian of the tower"= "will let you through the fire wall". I thought it meant there was someone guarding the tower from inside it.

[Tixx]

Going to need a version 1.03 soon:) My Virtual Grafitti shows through (and stays there) whenever I have to use buttons where the VG would normally be.

I have an NX70 with 5400kb ram.

[volcanopele]

I can confirm that as a problem on my NX80V w/1.02. On mine, the time and battery status shows temporarily when they change.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
I can confirm that as a problem on my NX80V w/1.02. On mine, the time and battery status shows temporarily when they change.

Hey VP:D

I hate being alone on these things. Thanks for checking:)

[Unregistered]

M using a Tungsten C. Are there plans to make the map slightly larger?

[fancyland]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Yes, just mail it to me at sylon@redshift.hu

I have mailed the save to you . Please check your mail .Thank you.

[wongckel]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
I just sent you a private message, hope you received it. :)

Can you also pm to me pls. Thanx.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Allright, here we go (it's not a private message, because I don't want to write private messages everyone who can't solve this puzzle :) ) :
The doors are in pairs (just see them), and of course the shelves (behind the doors) are also in pairs. You must just "exhange" the items on the shelves - from the full shelf to the (pair) empty shelf.
I think you know how to put an item on a shelf... Open the shelf screen, tap on the yellow arrow (your inventory screen to drop items anywhere), and drop that item what you received from the "pair" shelf. You must do it 3 times of course. Every time you'll receive a small message: "you hear a door opening". (3 doors are at the end of the whole passage).
If you don't remember which items you received from that shelves, just try every 3 items on every 6 shelves. :) (fire hammer, fire helm, fire necklace - worthless items)

[fancyland]

Sylon, I recived you mail and thanks your help.

Now I have nothing to do expect wait for the fixed savefile.

I am expecting¡_¡_

[Unregistered]

N'Gora Dungeon...i've tried every combination that I could think of for the levers that are supposed to let the red force field down...can someone help?

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Wow, you are in the Tower? You are quick. :)

1. Search for secret buttons on the walls for these rooms... There are 2 rooms (connected by a teleporter), and the 2 secret buttons closes 1-1 non-moving holes in the other room. :)

2-3: You don't need these keys - if you don't ever want to go back in Hranemus' cellar or the Amazon-Barbar Cave again...

My button in the fire room does not close the hole:confused: The ice room worked.

I'm in the Tower 2 part, but would like to finish that up if possible.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Unregistered dude: please read the pergamen there... It says: "Death always makes me happy" - so look the levers' opposite items, and if the item symbolizes death, leave that lever up, if the item symbolizes life, pull that lever down.

Tixx: the buttons closes the _other_ room's hole. Every 2 button must work correctly.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Unregistered dude: please read the pergamen there... It says: "Death always makes me happy" - so look the levers' opposite items, and if the item symbolizes death, leave that lever up, if the item symbolizes life, pull that lever down.

Tixx: the buttons closes the _other_ room's hole. Every 2 button must work correctly.

Oh...so I have to play with the iceroom's button...got it. Thanks:)

[volcanopele]

okay hehe I figured out something about that hole hallway, one of the holes does disappear just not the one next to the magma demon. from that point, I was able to attack him.

BTW I have seen no dragons so far except for the swamp dragon. Is this to be expected after exploring both frozen and fire empires i believe I compeletly searched?

[dbytes]

volcanopele,

Seems like I caught up and passed you. Took me a little while to figure out how to get past that demon. Just wait for some more long range attacks up ahead. I've not found another dragon yet either.

[dbytes]

Beat all three dragons, have 3 books, and Redshift Key. Moving into Sohl's Cave.

BTW, I can't seem to find a key to get into 2 doors in the Fire Empire. There's a sign that states something along the lines of "Choose one, forget the other." Can anyone provide hints? Did I miss a key?

[dbytes]

I found a bug, although minor:

I had the Ancient Dragon Sword equipped and then gave it to the NPC who requested it. I checked my stats and my damage was in the 73xxx - 7xxxx range. I could not read all the numbers as they were superimposed over the other stats, thus the xxxx. I wish I tried to attack an enemy with those numbers but I equpped a new sword without thinking! :(

Well, I'm going to try and find a door for the Redshift key before going much further after the spheres. If I remember correctly there were some doors in some past cities that didn't open or reveal anything.

[dbytes]

Nice gift with the Redshift key...too bad it doesn't help my 2 swordmasters. :)

[fancyland]

Originally posted by dbytes
Beat all three dragons, have 3 books, and Redshift Key. Moving into Sohl's Cave.

BTW, I can't seem to find a key to get into 2 doors in the Fire Empire. There's a sign that states something along the lines of "Choose one, forget the other." Can anyone provide hints? Did I miss a key?

Can you mail the save to me?

I need it very much because I haven't found the magic book after I killed the Mucous Dragon. Now I have two magic books except the last one . But the Dragon can't relive so that I never continue the game.

So I need your help .

[wongckel]

Managed to defeat the swamp dragon.

Now in dragon liar. Facing the ice dragon, i have not managed to register a hit. Any reasons why? I do have the Mucous Dragon Blade as well as the Ancient Dragon Blade.

[fancyland]

Originally posted by wongckel
Managed to defeat the swamp dragon.

Now in dragon liar. Facing the ice dragon, i have not managed to register a hit. Any reasons why? I do have the Mucous Dragon Blade as well as the Ancient Dragon Blade.

You must return Grendelmoore and find Negan to exchange the ice Dragon Blade .

[wongckel]

Thanks! Will try.

[Sylon/Redshift]

Fancyland: sorry, Stewe is VERY busy now with the 1.03 fixes (and he is the programmer in the group), but he will "crack" your saved game today!

Ancient Dragon Blade/Ice Dragon Blade bug: OK, I'll examine it.

[fancyland]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Fancyland: sorry, Stewe is VERY busy now with the 1.03 fixes (and he is the programmer in the group), but he will "crack" your saved game today!

Ancient Dragon Blade/Ice Dragon Blade bug: OK, I'll examine it.

Thanks! I am waitting for this!

[kitsune]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Unregistered dude: please read the pergamen there... It says: "Death always makes me happy" - so look the levers' opposite items, and if the item symbolizes death, leave that lever up, if the item symbolizes life, pull that lever down.

Tixx: the buttons closes the _other_ room's hole. Every 2 button must work correctly.

I must have picked up the items a while ago because there's nothing left! But I don't remember what I picked up!:(

No I have tried every possibility (2^4=16) ... to no avail ...

What can I do?

[Unregistered]

I've killed N'gora and got the N'gora's key.
But where can I go to the 2nd city?

[Sylon/Redshift]

Kitsune: read the newest answer on pdarcade. :)
(And no, you cannot pick up these items. These are just decorations, opposite to the levers.)

N'Gora key: the keyhole is there, in N'Gora's room. Opposite to the shelf.

[Unregistered]

Just some hint:
There are a hidden pergamen here (behind a cracked wall), which says: "pair of doors - pair of shelves".
Well, you have 6 doors (see them!), and 6 shelves - but only 3 (worthless) items on them. Which shelf is the pair of which shelf, and what must you do with the items?
THINK.
If you do it right, you'll receive a message: "you hear a door opening". Three times. (Three closed doors are in the end of this whole passage.)

Hi I read ALL the previous posts, but I still have not found the "hidden pergamen" anywhere that said that. I know I have to push a "button" and not attack the wall to find it, but I still can't find it. I feel like I've pushed every wall. Can you someone give me 1 more hint as to which room this button is in? Thank you.

[Sylon/Redshift]

You don't have to found the pergamen to solve the puzzle... That's why I wrote here the pergamen's message.
Just do what I said before in that puzzle.

[volcanopele]

hmm...have the red dragon key

[Unregistered]

Can I get a hint on the holes to holes on tower 2? How do I get to that sorcerer...there is a hole right in front of him...

[Unregistered]

ignore last hole to hole question.sorry

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Can I get a hint on the holes to holes on tower 2? How do I get to that sorcerer...there is a hole right in front of him...

I'm basically at this point too and don't know the answer at the moment.

[redshift]

Please take a quick check on the 1.03 version... now I have few hours until sleep, so I can make a few hotfixes if needed. I'll release it from the bed :)
Not a public one: http://www.redshift.hu/stewe/Legacy103.zip

if you see this post later, and you can't download the file with the above link: released, the final path will be http://www.redshift.hu/redshift/Legacy.zip

changes:
- nx/nz vg bug
- fixed door bug
- fixed item bugs (various - could lead to crash when you click on a face)

thank you!

Regards,
Stewe

[Tixx]

Cool:)

[Tixx]

Originally posted by redshift
Please take a quick check on the 1.03 version... now I have few hours until sleep, so I can make a few hotfixes if needed. I'll release it from the bed :)
Not a public one: http://www.redshift.hu/stewe/Legacy103.zip

if you see this post later, and you can't download the file with the above link: released, the final path will be http://www.redshift.hu/redshift/Legacy.zip

changes:
- nx/nz vg bug
- fixed door bug
- fixed item bugs (various - could lead to crash when you click on a face)

thank you!

Regards,
Stewe

Went to the Bartender's Cellar and all doors worked. Got the other goodies:)

So far no VG area pop-ups

[redshift]

good news good news I like them... yo ho

Stewe

[volcanopele]

at the ice dragon. Can't hit him. Don't have and don't remember seeing the ancient dragon blade. Have a gold dragon blade (from Mother Ann) and the mucous dragon blade. Any suggestions like 'where' is the ancient dragon blade?

[redshift]

Hmm sorry, I don't know. Sylon made that quest, and he just went to sleep. (4:30 am here). Anybody ?

stewe

[dbytes]

volcanopele,

Sorry I can't remember where that blade was located. I had to run from the Ice Dragon until I got my hands on the Ice Blade.

Sylon,

The House of Tricks is driving me crazy. I had to put the game down for awhile to refresh my mind. I'm not understanding the hints provided on the signs. I'll probably revisit it tomorrow. Here I thought running back and forth from the Fire and Ice Empires was causing me a headache. :)

Any hint on the 2 doors in the Fire Empire that I couldn't open? The one with the sign "Choose one, forget the other"

[redshift]

Sylon'll be online tomorrow... he's the "Architect" of the quests :)

Stewe

[wongckel]

Originally posted by dbytes
volcanopele,

Sorry I can't remember where that blade was located. I had to run from the Ice Dragon until I got my hands on the Ice Blade.

Sylon,

The House of Tricks is driving me crazy. I had to put the game down for awhile to refresh my mind. I'm not understanding the hints provided on the signs. I'll probably revisit it tomorrow. Here I thought running back and forth from the Fire and Ice Empires was causing me a headache. :)

Any hint on the 2 doors in the Fire Empire that I couldn't open? The one with the sign "Choose one, forget the other"

Yeah, the house of tricks is also driving me crazy! For the 4 floor plates, I have advanced the wall till it would go no further. As for the passage, i simply couldn't figure it out.

[volcanopele]

found the ancient dragon blade and got it exchanged for the ice dragon blade. then killed the ice dragon. now out on the quest of the four magic spheres.

[redshift]

good luck in that! prepare for tricks and patience... :)

Stewe

[Tixx]

Originally posted by redshift
good news good news I like them... yo ho

Stewe

Just had a 3650 crash upon exiting the game.:(

[redshift]

Hmmm I should check what can be that 3650, and why happens just *sometimes* and just on few devices. It's a kind of easy bug :)

Stewe

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
found the ancient dragon blade and got it exchanged for the ice dragon blade. then killed the ice dragon. now out on the quest of the four magic spheres.

I can't even get past the "holes to holes" and "teleporters to teleporter":rolleyes: At least I figured out the "walls to walls". Anyways I got the hole to close near the wizard and try to beat the holes moving toward him, but never can. Only thing I can see is getting a hit in, falling through the holes and doing it again. Guess it can be done that way:confused: The teleporters I have no clue. I go in those suckers and keep bouncing around the first 6 without advancing. Game idiot here, sorry.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by redshift
Hmmm I should check what can be that 3650, and why happens just *sometimes* and just on few devices. It's a kind of easy bug :)

Stewe

Yeah, I exited 2 or 3 times tonight and it only happened once:confused:

[allaboutgames21]

bad picture ya bum

[volcanopele]

tixx try the teleporter to teleporters part first. Look for hidden switches, broken blocks, and visible switches. don't get discouraged and you should find some opened up passageways in that area. The holes to holes area can then be tackled, just remember to time your movements.

[Tixx]

Originally posted by volcanopele
tixx try the teleporter to teleporters part first. Look for hidden switches, broken blocks, and visible switches. don't get discouraged and you should find some opened up passageways in that area. The holes to holes area can then be tackled, just remember to time your movements.

Thanks VP:)

[fancyland]

Stewe, Sylon

When can you fix my save about the Mucous Dragon's Magic book?

I need your help very much.

[Unregistered]

I ran out of places to go...after talking to Mersant, he says let's go, but we don't go anywhere...do I need to find an entrance to a cellar of some sort?

[Sylon/Redshift]

So, let's see:

"choose one, forget the other" in Fire Empire: you never can open all doors here, as the pergamen said: you have 1 key, but 2 doors to choose. It's up to you. (Behind the doors you receive bonus items. Choose what you want, just save a game before the doors to see all two of them. :) )

Tower level 2: no, it's not an "idiot" map, just you are not a "gamer" type person, as you said, Tixx. :) It's easy, just search for secret buttons close to the moving holes, and close to the teleporters. And try to "learn" the teleporters' target points to reach the one what moves you to the north, to the exit. This is a simple puzzle.

Home of Tricks: yeah, it's one of the final maps, so it's hard. :D Made by Stewe. Please upgrade to Legacy 1.03, with this the map will be "completeable" again.
"4 floor plates moving a wall" problem here: it's like a joystick. :) Just move with the 4 plates the gray filtered wall close to the another gray filtered wall, and "push" into it. The passage will be free.

Unregistered: after talking Mersant, get the key from the statue, and go back to the city to find the exit.

Fancyland: SORRY, SORRY, SORRY!!! Stewe always forgot to "crack" your saved game, because he was busy yesterday with the new version. I'll kick him in the *** now, don't worry, your saved game will be complete in a few hours!

[fancyland]

God bless me¡_¡_

[lordgeejay]

Originally posted by Tixx

Went to the Bartender's Cellar and all doors worked. Got the other goodies:)


Ah so the Bartender Cellar invisible doors is a bug in the program? I thought it was another puzzle. I'm currently downloading the new version of Legacy and hopefully I can go through the side doors now.

[lordgeejay]

Originally posted by lordgeejay


Ah so the Bartender Cellar invisible doors is a bug in the program? I thought it was another puzzle. I'm currently downloading the new version of Legacy and hopefully I can go through the side doors now.

Yes. 1.03 did fix that "puzzle". ;) Now I'm off to try figuring out the holes-to-holes problem again.

[Sylon/Redshift]

If you can close at least one hole, you can stand there, and cast some attack spells to defeat that sorcerer...

[lordgeejay]

I can close off all the holes? I'm just trying to get the last hole (the one that doesn't disappear) to disappear so I can get my hands on the creep wizard. ;)

[Sylon/Redshift]

You can close and open (for forever) only non-moving holes.
Like that one right front of that sorcerer dude.

...secret button... ...secret button... I'm starting to be an echo, I think. :) It's really such a hard thing to find it? It's right beside the holes!!

[dbytes]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
You can close and open (for forever) only non-moving holes.
Like that one right front of that sorcerer dude.

...secret button... ...secret button... I'm starting to be an echo, I think. :) It's really such a hard thing to find it? It's right beside the holes!!

Not hard at all. Just need to learn to search the walls.

[dbytes]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
So, let's see:

"choose one, forget the other" in Fire Empire: you never can open all doors here, as the pergamen said: you have 1 key, but 2 doors to choose. It's up to you. (Behind the doors you receive bonus items. Choose what you want, just save a game before the doors to see all two of them. :) )


I never found a key to open either door. Somehow I missed it. :)

[volcanopele]

That secret button was a bit for me to figure out. AT that point I wasn't used to looking for those. Now a days, I search for those like crazy :D

I haven't started on the puzzles in the south part of the World 3 city. Will start that tonight :) Now have Raise Dead and Lightning Bolt spell so I am happy.

[volcanopele]

My biggest tip would be to always explore, never leave a spot unexplored in your maps. You never know what you will find.

[dbytes]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
Home of Tricks: yeah, it's one of the final maps, so it's hard. :D Made by Stewe. Please upgrade to Legacy 1.03, with this the map will be "completeable" again.
"4 floor plates moving a wall" problem here: it's like a joystick. :) Just move with the 4 plates the gray filtered wall close to the another gray filtered wall, and "push" into it. The passage will be free.


Forget to mention. I went back last night and got past the part of the House of Tricks that was holding me back. I somehow figured out past the "4 plates moving a wall." Now I have a force field to remove and 5 plates and 5 teleporters to figure out. I've not used my brain like this in a game in quite a long time.

[Sylon/Redshift]

dbytes:
Fire Empire: well, the "check table area" to the south includes a key in a shelf. That key opens the two doors - you can choose any of them. Cool bonus items waiting for you here... :)

Home of Tricks, 5 teleporters room: secret buttons. :) There are 2 of them. One in the room, one in the passage what leads into it.
Then you must pull some levers in a combo to get a wall open.

Home of Tricks, 4 Wall of Force passages: well, it's a HARD one. :D But a pergamen says there what must you do. Try to activate the 3 Wall of Force, AND reach the fourth one... (without deactivating the others!)

[ian]

Tricks is definetly harder.. but lots of neat stuff.

Here's another hint.. don't forget you have a 'teleport' spell that takes you not only back to town, but when cast can return you 'where you were'

[Tixx]

Originally posted by Sylon/Redshift
So, let's see:

"choose one, forget the other" in Fire Empire: you never can open all doors here, as the pergamen said: you have 1 key, but 2 doors to choose. It's up to you. (Behind the doors you receive bonus items. Choose what you want, just save a game before the doors to see all two of them. :) )

Tower level 2: no, it's not an "idiot" map, just you are not a "gamer" type person, as you said, Tixx. :) It's easy, just search for secret buttons close to the moving holes, and close to the teleporters. And try to "learn" the teleporters' target points to reach the one what moves you to the north, to the exit. This is a simple puzzle.

Home of Tricks: yeah, it's one of the final maps, so it's hard. :D Made by Stewe. Please upgrade to Legacy 1.03, with this the map will be "completeable" again.
"4 floor plates moving a wall" problem here: it's like a joystick. :) Just move with the 4 plates the gray filtered wall close to the another gray filtered wall, and "push" into it. The passage will be free.

Unregistered: after talking Mersant, get the key from the statue, and go back to the city to find the exit.

Fancyland: SORRY, SORRY, SORRY!!! Stewe always forgot to "crack" your saved game, because he was busy yesterday with the new version. I'll kick him in the *** now, don't worry, your saved game will be complete in a few hours!

I got through both last night:) Thanks. I was calling me an idiot, no the map:)