Legacy - Help With Quests

[rebdaniel]

Ah, at our age, we're moving from ribald to just plain bald, mabs!

Kevincalhn, I'm not understanding your posts -- are you talking about Legend or Dragonbuilders? Dragonbuilders is free, completely, freeware, available right here on 1src. Link is
http://www.1src.com/freeware/fileinfo.php?id=1751
Any place trying to charge for it is running a scam and should be shut down. Moreover, they would owe me money, as I wrote dragonbuilders!!!!

On the other hand Legend I and Legend II must be bought -- any place offering them for free is pirating them and should be shut down.

Can you clarify which it is?

[rebdaniel]

Well gyffes, the editorial made it in today -- here is the link:
http://www.scrantontimes.com/articles/2008/07/27/editorial/guest_columnists/sc_times_trib.20080727.d.pg5.tt27swartz_s1.1836266_gue.txt

Let me know what you think.

[gyffes]

Great, Rebbe. Did you use this as your inspiration?

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0602/sexfreebible.html

(by the way, my favorite line? "Think for yourselves." uhhhhh, that's why we call them Sheeple, Rebbe!)

[ladyannoyu]

I am not sure if anyone will read this but I am stuck in tower 2 and cant find how to get to tower 3. I have completed all quests including the coin quest. Any suggestions or advice would be wonderful.

[gyffes]

oh, we see it. We also know this has been addressed often. Did you try to "search this thread"?

Leave the tower. Search (well, the town, at least, if not this thread), paying attention to doors which were locked the first time through.

[Sasuke87]

I have a problem with a quest...
I have to kill the Behemoth King, but I can't find him... I've got the special arrows, for killing him.

Can you help me plese? thanks! :)

[gyffes]

Sasuke, I know this thread is enormous, but did you even TRY to search on this? 'Cause I know I've answered it A LOT.

Here: look in the Ancient Tower.

[Sasuke87]

Sorry.... :(
Ok, thanks!

[nd01]

Hi Everyone,
I was wondering - i have the Sphere Key, and i'm stuck at the 5 teleporter room. I've found the way to get past them, and i've flicked down the two levers - but i can't find where to go next. Can anyone help me?

[gyffes]

love to: where are you?

[nalokin]

Where can i find a list of links to all new maps?

[rebdaniel]

most if not all are now up on catacomber.com -- check in the forum for legacy maps.

[ReturnFormer]

oh, no! i just installed a bunch of expansions (as well as two other things) and now legacy crashes exery time i start it. any ideas whats causing the interference? could it be that i have too many expansions for it to handle? (i have a palm t/x.) with the installation, i now have just about all free expansions installed.

[gyffes]

you put your finger right on it: Legacy loads ALL available maps at once, so your memory is just being overloaded. I got around this on my Clie by creating a folder on external card and moving maps to/from there as desired.

Remember that pulling a map from internal memory wipes it back to Fresh New Never Been Played!; this obviously has upsides to go with the significant downside should you not have been finished when you decided to swap out Legend I JUST before finishing it.

If you remove a map your party is in, you get sent to the nearest main map (remove King's Aid whilebin it and when you return to Legacy, you'll be at the Descrantes teleporter).

[ReturnFormer]

dang, thats annoying. does it clear the map revealed? (meaning you have to explore around again to see where you are.)

[gyffes]

yep; but, any treasure you picked up you keep, so you can see how quickly you can use this as a minor cheat.

So, upside and downside.

[kellerkit]

Hello Forum!
I have read this forum for now ca. A week, and nobody seems to have my problem with Legacy. But maybe someone is able to help me anyway.
My Problem:
I have nearly finished the whole Fire and Ice Empire.
But I cannot enter the dragon cave in the fire empire, because I am not able to find the Purple Dragon Key.
I read, that it is on a shelf in a hidden room of the 25 rooms puzzle, but it simply is Not there.
Am I too stupid, is the key in another place? Or is it a bug?
Thanks for your help.
kellerkit

[gyffes]

Not a bug. I've not run through the Empires in MUY longtime so cannot be precise but I believe the reference to the 25-room area is that the PDK is in a room that ATTACHES to but cannot be accessed via the 25-room area.

That is, you are teleported TO that room and the way out is THROUGH the 25-room area.

How thoroughly have you explored the Catacombs?

[MaxBrTere]

Please Help

Hello.
I have repeatedly tried legacy 1.05x on my Tungsten T5 and LifeDrive without success. It will run fine until the save screen. At which point it will crash on about 1 out of 4 times, in the process erasing the saved game and at least one other save slot, sometimes all of the save slots.
Does anyone have any tips?

[gyffes]

Max, that's a bug I've not come across in all the years I've been playing. Send an email to sylon@redshift.hu with the same description you entered, above.

[MaxBrTere]

Ok. Thanks.

[Mac00001]

Ok, so I just got a palm and discovered the world of Legacy.
Now I'm stuck in the tower of world 2.

I'm on level two and have explored as much as I can. the door behind the teleporters at the back of the breakable walls is not opening...how do I open it? It's probably something simple that I just totally missed

[gyffes]

WELCOME to a truly wonderful game!

Confession: I JUST passed through there and can't recall doing anything to open that door; of course, I'm pretty much on autopilot through the first three worlds...

Have you: flipped the lever(s) in the side teleporter passages? Did you notice at the end of one a small square "stone button" that nearly blends perfectly into the wall?

Check and report back. I'm acquiver with delight: its been awhile since we had a true newcomer with whom to share the Pleasures of Legacy.

[diabloaka]

Hi I have a s60v2 6670 its an old phone of course but i want to buy a Sony Ericsson

p1 but its Uiq 3 not Windows mobile and I really want to play The Quest and all the

WM phones are expensive or cheap that don't have a good camera .

Anyway I want your help in world 3 in legacy I'm in Grendelmoore and I don't know

where to begin I saw the online map for the fire empire but its too big and I'm afraid

to go all the way down there for nothing so can you help me where to begin ?

Thanks .

[gyffes]

a) huh?;

b) FOR THE LOVE OF LICORICE, STOP LOOKING AT MAPS! *SHEESH!* They don't help you, they're PROVEN to confuse, and they take away a bit of fun; and

c) What do you mean "where to begin"? You made it this far, nothing's really changed, gamplay-wise. Start walking around. Chat with the peeps in town. Explore the various swamps North, East, and West of you.

If you're just hopelessly stuck: explore the Ice Empire, first.

[diabloaka]

I just want your advice for a good cheap Windows mobile phone to play redshift

The Quest . OK I will take your advice and don't look at the maps (just calm down (: )

and thanks .

[gyffes]

Calm down? CALM DOWN? MOI?

Man, I hate it when they come in here and don' bother reading old posts... you'd know I CAN'T calm down. *DOUBLESHEESH*

Wish I had a way of playing The Quest on my iPT. And Legacy, for that matter. COME ON, SYLON! > whimper <

[diabloaka]

What is your problem its 245 pages whats better read them all in 3 or 4 hours or just ask,
your not going to die if you answer my question and I said thanks and I appreciate your help .

[gyffes]

Well, I WAS jesting... see, I made un petit blague at my own expense... but now I'm cranky. There IS a search feature.

[lampard]

I need some help. I'm in ''Sohl's Cave'' My quest is : Collect the four magic sphere to open the Main Teleporter. I have 3 of 4. I can't find in home of tricks. How can i get this?

Please help me.


(My english is'nt good.) ;)

[lampard]

I need some help. I'm in ''Sohl's Cave'' My quest is : Collect the four magic sphere to open the Main Teleporter. I have 3 of 4. I can't find in home of tricks. How can i get this?

Please help me.


(My english is'nt good.) ;)

Pleasee. I'm still waiting :(

[gyffes]

Here's the problem: The House of Tricks is.. well.. tricky. And you've given us nothing with which to help you.

How far have you gotten? What remains unexplored? What have you done so far?

[lampard]

There is opposite of entrance door. It's lock. and southeast of map there is one key i think the keyis bk the face tell me ''i feel the key for the sphere is near. and i can't go behind this face. there is wall of force. if a pass this force i think i get the key. bu i still need lock door?
I hope it is enough to help me :D

[gyffes]

It is a start. At the entrance, go LEFT. There are some small fights and a bit of puzzle to figure out. Hit some hidden switches, go further to the LEFT and just keep going. Eventually, you'll find yourself in a place that will return to the entrance. If you did it all correctly, the door in front of you should be open. The key you need (the key to your death or something like that) to progress to the RIGHT is in there.

I think that's the right house I'm describing. My latest party has just finished Cold Blood, I'll send them into Tricks, next.

That

[lampard]

Look at this.
-I can't destroy write a 'Switch'
-There is still wall of force
-Close doors are sign.

help me.
Who want this map , write 'legacy home of tricks map' on google.http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3650/gamee1za9.jpg

[gyffes]

ok, thanks for that.
Now, do what I told you to do: GO LEFT from the entrance and do NOTHING ELSE until you open the locked door at the end of the short hall with 2 floor plate switches. Once you open that door (on your map, it's the 2nd circled one directly in front of the entrance), everything else will fall into place.

-- crankily typed on my iPT

[lampard]

Thank's for everything. :)

The other one is : Maze map. I have part 1 and 3. :) Where is the others. just say me to which map.

[Mac00001]

Sup! sorry I haven't posted...It's been a long week. So I went back through the level and I still couldn't find anything. I'm in the process of restarting the game. I haven't had a whole lot of time but I'm almost back to where I was before.

[lampard]

i've got one problem too. i'm in 'Ruins of Decrantes' i found a 'Nobody' he wants to me 10k gold. I have 274k gold. but i can't give. He says 'come back later when you have enough money'
what will i do? please help me :)

[gyffes]

you are playing on an s60; you have discovered the s60 bug. The ONLY solution is to contact Redshift (sylon@redshift.com) for the patch. Noone else has it, so don't ask.

[lampard]

Sorry, no mailbox here by that name
and
Hi. This is the qmail-send program at mail9.redshift.com.I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

this is the answer. i need the new adress.

[gyffes]

Verymuch my bad: address is sylon@redshift.hu

[Mac00001]

So I restarted and It still doesn't work.
Here is what I've done on tower one level two:
1) I completed the walls to walls, then I made it though the teleporters (and yes I hit the hidden switch and the wall switch)
2) I broke the walls, got the items, then I couldn't open that door!
3) I went to the holes to holes and made it through...But I didn't have the key to the door.

It that the key behind the breakable walls door or did I miss something again?

[gyffes]

Ok.. I thought this was for level 3, but maybe it's here: Have you completed ALL assigned tasks?

That is, did you return the Dwarven Hammer to the little dude outside the cheap weapon shop?

[Mac00001]

yeah, already did that... didn't work

But going back through it the second time I noticed that on the first level, there are two red bars inside of the walls right by the level entrance... I couldn't figure out how to get to them...

[lampard]

hey i found something. if you have the 'Redshift key' go the first town(i don't remember the name) and go all doors one of them is will open. there is 'redshift....' I don't say go and find :D .i'll say other thing about redshift books . if you know tell me so i don't say but if you aren't know i'll say it. :D

[devincutler]

I moved from a 6800 to an Omnia and Legacy doesn't play well with the WQVGA screen. Anyone get the thing working on an Omnia?

Should I contact sylon@redshift.hu and see if there is a patch?

Would hate to lose my favourite cell phone game and one that I paid for (and the expansions) but now cannot finish.

Regards,

Devin

[gyffes]

I lost the ability toplay on the go when I switched from a Sony clie' to an iPod Touch but I knew it would happen: just about any time one switches hardware and the underlying OS, new software must be bought. What IS this Omnia?

Certainly couldn't hurt to write sylon; while the only patch I'd heard Of was the s60 one, I know Redshift made a version for low-memory devices: maybe such would help you.

[nd01]

love to: where are you?

I'm at the area with the five teleporters, have found the entrance round to the back of them and gone past the area with the floor switches that remove or add walls, and flicked the two switches there on. However, i don't know what to do now, after flicking the two wall switches. If you need more detail, i'll try and fetch some kind of map for you. Thanks

[gyffes]

There are, ultimately, FOUR (I think) switches there that need to be flicked.

Did you: GO LEFT at the entrance and flick the switch you found (on what appeared to be a wall at the end of a corridor?) all the way at the end of the LEFT option?

Can you tell us (NSEW) which two switches you've hit?

[gyffes]

So I restarted and It still doesn't work.
Here is what I've done on tower one level two:
1) I completed the walls to walls, then I made it though the teleporters (and yes I hit the hidden switch and the wall switch)
2) I broke the walls, got the items, then I couldn't open that door!
3) I went to the holes to holes and made it through...But I didn't have the key to the door.

It that the key behind the breakable walls door or did I miss something again?

When you got beyond the teleporters, what did you do? There's a large network of breakable walls to navigate and you'll find a key at the end of one of the breakable wall-revealed corridors. I know you must do teleporters BEFORE you can continue with Holes.

[gyffes]

yeah, already did that... didn't work

But going back through it the second time I noticed that on the first level, there are two red bars inside of the walls right by the level entrance... I couldn't figure out how to get to them...


The bars'll be revealed after you finish the top level, I believe.

[Mac00001]

GAH!!!!1???1!!!? Y am I the only 1 who can't seem to figure this out!!!!

[shc3ds]

how cam i remove wall of force to south in grendelmoore? where is the secret button to remove it?

[shc3ds]

how can i remove wall of force to south in grendelmoore? where is the secret button to remove it?

[gyffes]

kill 3 dragons, bring the spellbooks they drop to the guy outside the bar in grendelmoor, he'll drop the WoF for you.

[shc3ds]

thanks gyffes, but i found only two spellbooks but where is the third one. i searched all area but not found. i have ancient and mysterious books.

[gyffes]

It is not uncommon to miss one; people often kill the swamp dragon while it stands in a poison puddle and miss the dropped spellbook. If this is your case, you're somewhat hosed.

Hopefully, you have a save from back before you killed it. If not, you should contact sylon@redshift.hu and tell him what has happened.

[shc3ds]

thanks, i found third one in poison puddle.

[gyffes]

Ah, lucky you; most don't realize that they missed one 'til a week has passed and the landscape has refreshed itself, "over-writing" the book, as it were, and then they're toast.

Hey, Mac00001, I created a new party and am slowly clearing the amazon caves: I'll try to pay attention to the teleporters bit to see what you've missed.

[Mac00001]

Many thanks :)

[gyffes]

don't be too hasty with your thanks: I found no door beyond the teleporters that needs unlocking. IF you refer to the door at the end of hole to holes, then THAT key is on a shelf in the maze of break-a-walls beyond the teleporters.

[Mac00001]

right....the door behind the breakable walls is the one I can't open

*sigh*

Many thanks for looking!

It doesn't have a lock, it "appears stuck"

[gyffes]

*groan*

That's not a door, it's a gate! Aaahhhhhhh!

Hit it. Attack it. Then open it.

[garblesnix]

IgorBuz:
"use a powerful weapon" to kill her.
I've tried everything in my arsenal.
Is there a weapon I need to pick up while wandering her realm.....or can you give a bigger hint.
Thanks.
Garblesnix :confused:

[gyffes]

Garblesnix, please keep your requests in the proper thread: this is for the MAIN LEGACY game. Thank you.

[garblesnix]

Sorry gyffes, I've put the question where it belongs.
Newbie mess-up.
garblesnix

[Mac00001]

Yo!
Thanks for helping me out with a noob mistake :D

Now I'm stuck at a new place. The ice empire in the 3rd town. I'm confused about the combination of switches in the 6 switch room.

And before you ask, yes I've searched the thread, and yes I found stuff, but no it didn't help me. :D

[gyffes]

Well, you're approaching the part of Legacy where your skills at searching -- both here and In Game -- need to improve.

This puzzle HAS been addressed many times, but I recognize this is a large-ash thread so I'll offer you this:

There is a hidden "pergemon" (wall sign) in the room with the 6 switches: this refers to the NEXT series of switches. To open the door to that next room, you need to go BACK a weeeee bit and explore. Hit a few cracked walls.

[jaajaa]

Hi is there any single walk-thru document for The Quest.
Something one can download and look at on the road?

[Mac00001]

found it. thanks

[Grant75]

There is a hidden "pergemon" (wall sign)lol, what is a pergemon? :confused:

I have seen that word come up many times in this forum and it does't make much sense at all.

According to wiki, and several other dictionaries I searched, pergemon does not exist. But Pergamon does and it was an ancient Greek city in modern-day Turkey, in Mysia, north-western Anatolia; definitely not a wall sign. :p

lol, probably doesn't interest anyone, but just thought it was worth noting. ;)

[gyffes]

Excellent, Grant, YOU are allowed ask questions as you've clearly been doin' some thread-readin'.

When Sylon started popping in to answer questions about his lovely game, HE used the term and we all just snapped it up. As he is, I believe, Hungarian, it most likely has an origin there.

Or he made it up.


lol, what is a pergemon? :confused:

I have seen that word come up many times in this forum and it does't make much sense at all.

According to wiki, and several other dictionaries I searched, pergemon does not exist. But Pergamon does and it was an ancient Greek city in modern-day Turkey, in Mysia, north-western Anatolia; definitely not a wall sign. :p

lol, probably doesn't interest anyone, but just thought it was worth noting. ;)

[rebdaniel]

Here is an interesting item that might (or might not) be relevant. If you look up the origin of the word "parchment" in English (and the signs could look like parchment, if you really want them to) the origin is, believe it or not is Pergamon, where apparently parchment was first made, or at least they must have beat up anyone else who claimed to have made it first. So he may not have made it up.

Of course, this is all greek to me...

[Legacyaddict1]

you put your finger right on it: Legacy loads ALL available maps at once, so your memory is just being overloaded. I got around this on my Clie by creating a folder on external card and moving maps to/from there as desired.


How do I remove individual maps from my palm and put it on my desktop?

[Sylon/Redshift]

Hey Gyffes, are you sure I used the word 'pergemon'? Because it has no meaning, even in my Hungarian language... I think I used 'pergamen' which means 'scroll' or 'parchment'. : ) (I think I wanted to say something about those parchments which are on some of the walls.)

[gyffes]

... bloody nitpicking hungarian artistic game-designing geniuses...

GET CRACKIN' PORTING LEGACY TO iPHONE!!

*sheeesh!*

[Sylon/Redshift]

I knew this will be the next post to this forum. :D

Will do, Gyffes, will do, but now we have other things to do about The Quest. Legacy's port will be a huge work and first we have to see it's really worth to do it for the iPhone or not. We can't just port the base Legacy game, it's too old, we already got many criticism about The Quest's graphics (too oldschool, hah!), we can't afford an even older style of game. We have to redesign Legacy totally, which will be a long and hard work.

[gyffes]

WAAAAAAAAAH

*sniff*

Maybe I can pick up a T|X or Lifedrive for pennies, keep playin' on that....

>shakes like Ryan Leaf before the pass rush <

gotta get my legacy fix... gotta... I JUST GOTTA, MAN

[QueryAtAll]

Hi everyone, I've killed N'Gora and gone thru all baraquel houses and the underground (giant cave) in the forest near Baraquel. This is the underground where the 2 chambers of the guardian's of the tower are. The broblem is, the 2 switchs into the chambers do absolutely nothing (no monster, no hiden place, nothing). And of course, in Baraquel, I can't go thru the Wall of force to access the tower. I have the tower key who seem to be useless for now. Can someone help me?

[gyffes]

Yep. I will ask you a few questions, however.

In the forest outside of Beraquel are TWO cave systems: one for Amazons, one for Barbarians. Somewhere in each cave is a room with a lever. Find each room, flip each lever.

THEN, go try the Wall of Force, again. it will still be visible, but it'll fall as you walk through it.

[QueryAtAll]

Thanks for the tip gyffes, I try that tonight and I let you know. BTW, corect me if I'm wrong, those two caves aren't connected???

Queryatall dot com

[gyffes]

They ARE connected. Via two doors, the keys of which are found within the caves themselves. But, usually, I don't find the keys and/or correct door in time to save myself time. Besides, going from cave to cave via the surface allows one to find useful items (HINT FREEKING HINT) laying about the forest floor...

[QueryAtAll]

gyffes it's works! Thanks to you and my teleport spell.

Yann
QueryAtAll dot com

[Legacyaddict1]

I am playing legacy for the umpteenth time, but this time when I installed it the paralyze spell freezes my game up aqnd resets my palm. I have never come across this before. Has anyone else? Any solutions?

[anax]

Ah, the home of patience! I've got 3 spheres and I miss the patience's one. As it seems on the map, I've explored it all, pulled every switch, steped on everything! But I sure have missed the sphere's location. Any tip?! :confused:

Done! Found the spere thanks to a previous post, I have missed a secret switch on the wall :)

[gyffes]

Excellent. Thanks for coming back and letting us know that.

I was about to comment, "whenever someone says they've 'pushed every button...', it's prettymuch assured that they haven't."

[kreiven]

Ah, today i exit all 4 houses in last chapter... Its not easy, but its possible! The hardest for me - House of Patience, House of Inosence! But i get all 4 spheres and open Sohl's Teleport! Then fight... ... And another.... Ah, and better is last choise.... ;)

[kreiven]

Now i have problems with ADD-ON maps!

How i can accept quests for NPC? There is two possble answers! First time that is 'yes' and 'no' - and nothing changes when i take 'no'! The second time answers is 'Realy..' and 'Hmm..' and this time i cant take 'Realy..' Simply takes 'Hmm..' not 'Realy..' So i cannot take quest! All NPC answers is 'I dont like your answer...' That happens with all NPC who give possible answers.

Why is that, and how can i change this bug?

[gyffes]

Do you play on an S60 device?

[kreiven]

Yup! :)

So i cannot fix that bug?

[rebdaniel]

There is a fix but you have to get it directly from redshift. Since you've already emailed them about the editor you should get a quick response.

[kreiven]

Ok! Thanks! I try later send them email!


So, what about that fix? Its application, or something alse...?

[kreiven]

There is a fix but you have to get it directly from redshift. Since you've already emailed them about the editor you should get a quick response.


Oh! Big Thanks to you, man! I do that! I send email with my problem to RedShift and they send me NEW Legacy main application! :D Its not big changes (also is v1.05) but now i can play all quests without problems...!!

Thanx! :D

[kreiven]

Hey! Somebody know how open powerwall in secret room in Sohl's Cave? This with 21 plate (ground) swiches...

[rebdaniel]

first of all it is not a big reward. Definitely more trouble than it is worth. To solve it just use trial and error looking at the force wall to see how a step affects it. If you get tired of trying that I can see if I can find the answer but basically it really is a small reward.

[kreiven]

Yes, i got in! There nothing usefull only 2 fountains, black and blue... :) Maybe u know what to do with RedShift key?

I allready exit Expansion pack. There in secret place i found RedShift book! I place it in one place (near fron enter Labirynth of Souls) and i get super RedShift shield with 20ac and +9 str :)

So, what to do with RedShift key in Legacy main map?

[Grant75]

the Redshift key gives you the Redshift axe...you need to find a door to the redshift team which is located in one of the three towns. you might want to start your search from the 1st town ;)

btw, congrats on solving that puzzle. the black fountains only work if you have dead party members, it is a revive fountain.

could you please pm me the solution to that? i did it once long time ago, but i tried recently but this time it does not seem to work what i did last time. thx

[kreiven]

could you please pm me the solution to that? i did it once long time ago, but i tried recently but this time it does not seem to work what i did last time. thx

Solution of what? The place for RedShift book or for Sohl's cave? :confused:

[Gridironman17]

anyone no where to find key for red door in thieves lair? I have been searching verywhere and cant find it. I need help.

-grid

[Gridironman17]

ignore my comment. Got games mixed up. wrong forum. Whoops. It was meant for The Quest. If anyone could answer it, I would be grateful, but otherwise, you can just ignore it. Sorry

-Grid

[br9541]

Wow, you are in the Tower? You are quick. :)

1. Search for secret buttons on the walls for these rooms... There are 2 rooms (connected by a teleporter), and the 2 secret buttons closes 1-1 non-moving holes in the other room. :)

2-3: You don't need these keys - if you don't ever want to go back in Hranemus' cellar or the Amazon-Barbar Cave again...


ok i have been searching for days for these switches and i have about had it. can anyone tell me with a little more detail were the switches are? i mean what two room and were at.

[gyffes]

ok, I'm thiilled you seem to have SEARCHED before posting, but I KNOW I've adressed this over the years...

The holes are in an area (as opposed to a specific, defined-by-4-walls-and-a-door room). Go over EVERY INCH of available wall in EACH of the two Hole-location areas. If you do this and STILL can't find the switches, PM me and I'll be as specific as possible.

[br9541]

Ok so I ran into a huge roadblock. My character is “seirenna” the highlander. I am out of money and my group is about dead trying to take on the dwarfs in tower 2 second floor. If I go further, than I am dead. I cannot go back because every time I do I just run in the same predicament. Should I restart? What is the better character to use? Can anyone give me some meaningful tips?
PLEASE HELP !!!!!!

[gyffes]

Help is here.

1) The Highlander is the WORST choice because, due to a coding oversight, s/he was NOT given any bonuses! So you get the negatives (armor, etc) w/o any plusses. Baaaad choice.

2) Restart. You're early enough in the game that what happened first will be fresh for you and you can approach with much more skill stuff you wandered blindly into, first time around.

Party composition:

Understand, we all have our own preferences. But I've been through this game ... often... and find that a balance of power and magic will get you furthest. Magicusers are weak at low levels (and hard to come by) but insanely more effective than fighters by as little as level 10-12.

Thus, I use one fighter (knight would be best for you as you're just starting out) and THREE mages. Or, rather, knight/battlemage in front, mage/mage in the back.

You'll spend a fortune on mana potions, for awhile, but it's worth it. Pick up the knight and a BM and Julius in Decrantes. Play 'til they're about level 3-4 then head into King's Aide. You'll find a 5th level mage in the Inn, there, and you'll be all set. Finish KA (you'll be about level 8), then go finish Beraquel and resume your exploration of the rest of Legacy.

Tips:

* rob the other characters at the Inn
* the only potion you should buy is mana, if you can manage to avoid needing too much Cure
* Arrows: learn to love 'em
* maximize the results of your mini-missions by having ONE select character turn in for the reward; this will level up your mages more quickly and they'll reward you for it.
* Points at level-up: Mages get INT 'til they're full, then a point of END (for the battlemage, it's +2/+2; occasionally, may want to take one of the BM's END points and put it on STR, but not 'til about level 10). Balance the Knight's points carefully -- +INT/END/STR. High INT offers protection from magic at later levels and this will be critical to your eventual success. Ignore DEX: the only character who seems to benefit from it is the swordmaster, and even there I'm still uncertain.

Good luck!

[rebdaniel]

The great sage gyffes is right, of course. By "rob", gyffes means, get them to temporarily join the party, leaving one of your actual party there in their place. Then have them give all their stuff to another person in your party, go back to the inn, drop them off and pick back up your person -- don't wait on that, though, so they don't disappear.

If you, because you are in search of a challenge, to have the WORST party, either try to survive with fewer than four people -- or use a swordmaster and three clerics. (I'd say four clerics but there AREN'T four clerics, though of course, everyone knows that without the proper clerics, whole worlds fall apart [I am rabbi, and thus I identify pretty strongly with the clerics :) ) Then you'll have minimum endurance, no attack magic capabilities, and all sorts of penalties for using weapons, armor, etc.

I once completed the base game and part of the official expansion with just such a team, but then I gave up, since they kept dying as I went on.
rebdaniel

[gyffes]

Right, well, I figured we'd give him the "ok, here's how to make it more challenging..." lecture AFTER he'd made it past Tower Level 2.

For those interested: Try playing without using CURSE and/or PARALYZE. Or LIGHTNING BOLT. That, alone, will make things harder.

Try with no magic at all. You'll suffer for THAT quickly, however. And it's just not much fun.

Or try with fewer than 4 party members. Great advancement, lousy when surrounded by Death Dragons or other paralyzers. One former great claimed to've won with but a single character, but he was using such an ancient PDA that he had time, as the paralyze spell advanced on him, to enter INVENTORY mode and thus chug down an anti-paralytic before the game could call him dead.

And, whatever you do, stay out of the maps known for their Monty Haul crappola super weapons and silly gold gifts.

[br9541]

Hey, thanks for the help. I did restart and taking your advice has found the game a lot more interesting. However, I am in another pickle, I have made it to the fourth floor of tower 2. I have talked to "Mersent Orasare" about the magic books. The question now is how do I get to the next town? Is there another portal that I should be hunting for? P.S. this is my first RPG I have ever played, and no, I am not a big gamer.

[gyffes]

well, then EXTRA congrats, but the mind-bendingest parts are yet before you.

Go to the "slum" section of town and start shaking doors. One that was locked, before, now is open.

[br9541]

What do I have to do to get the door in the Frozen Empire with six switches on the walls open? The clue is “NE-SE-C" down the hall there is another hint that reads "NE-NE-S.”

[gyffes]

The clue that's CLOSEST to the room is not the one for this room.

With that in mind, stand in the middle of the room, face north and ponder a moment.

[SchneeBaer]

Hi All!

I’m stuck in the House of Tricks. I’ve made it through the sliding wall puzzle and am at a gate with a note on the wall that says ‘You need the key to reach the sphere’ – but I don’t have the necessary key. There appears to be an area below the room with the 4 floor plates that moved the sliding wall, but I can’t find a way in that space. I’m also unable to get through a door that’s just a little southeast of the entry teleport. Other than these three areas, everything else looks complete to me.

What am I missing?

[gyffes]

Is this the map with the "Key to your Death" notice?

[SchneeBaer]

Is this the map with the "Key to your Death" notice?

I believe it is. It was behind the door right across from the entry portal. I'm pretty sure I already got that key -- the map is showing that area as mapped - but I am not showing that key on any of my characters. Is it possible that I've already used that key?

[gyffes]

Yes, I was just trying to get my bearings.

There should be a post (think, 'single square of wall') with a lever on at least 3 sides. How many of those levers have you flipped?

[SchneeBaer]

I've flipped all three. I got to the third one after I solved the sliding wall puzzle on the way to the gate that I don't have a key to open.

[gyffes]

Mmmm, ok. It seems I'm going to have to dig up a God Party and chew my way back through there to take a look. Although I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any dead spots in the middle of the map, so perhaps you need to explore that a bit more thoroughly. If I remember correctly, there's a switch (or two) back near the hallway you had to struggle with to get the door open (either at the end of the hall with the 2 floorplates or hidden in the NEXT hall/alcove down the map) that will move a bunch of walls and end up connecting that area with where you are in front of the gate.

Also, try this: from where you are in front of the locked gate, turn towards the entry teleporter and proceed as far as you can, carefully checking the walls as you go.

[OK... just went in to take a look...]

Here's the deal. Forgot about the Walls of Force, I did.

Remember the initial teaser, about needing to turn off the last WoF to get the key? You have to get that key. If you can't go from where you are to back near the beginning, search 'til you can.

[SchneeBaer]

Thanks. I'll go kick some walls. :)

[SchneeBaer]

I got the sphere out of this house. The key was behind a force wall I had encountered earlier and had forgotten. Oddly, though, there is still one door close to the entry which I cannot open. It's one of those ball-looking doors and does not have a keyhole.

I'm going to move on. I've got two other houses to conquer yet, and something might happen in one of those for this door.

[gyffes]

Naaa, if you've retrieved the sphere, you're done with this house. I wouldn't worry about the door that's still closed.

Which houses do you have left?

[SchneeBaer]

I have Patience mostly mapped but am a bit stumped -- losing my 'patience'. I've solved the 6-buttons pair of rooms and have the East winged key, but am missing the west winged key. I'm going back through now, looking for missing pieces. Haven't started Ignorance yet, so I'm living up to that name as well.

[br9541]

Ok i guess from the sound of most of the postings I’m pretty much at the end of this game. But here is the problem, I think I have searched ever were in the house of tricks and I still can’t find the sphere. I have the sphere key and the key of death but I’m just lost. Any advice is appreciated.

[SchneeBaer]

Ok -- how the heck did you get a screen shot of the map? I've wanted to do that for a long time!

I just finished this, so it's kind of awesome I might be able to help. It looks like you found the locked gate but just haven't opened it. At the far right, about mid-point, is where you need to go. Should be a gate that the sphere key will open (#1).

I'd like to know how you got through the door marked by #2 though. I finished the quest and never got that one opened.

[br9541]

thank you! thank you! thank you! finally i can beat this map. and as for door 2 place the bolder infront of the door on the pad. that worked for me

[ledung1212]

I join the new forum, I can not play games legacy, I am a difficult quest (I'm a Vietnam)

1: dugenon in how I open the door on the right.

2: I was in the tower level 2 but not find the key

3: How can I open the door in town

4: how to save her daughter's Jojush Jue.

[ledung1212]

Hello all. I report to a network of city baraqel. Was too low 4 get cellar key. But I can not find the move to the next step, please help me.

We hope to help get your

I find throughout the towns, forests and caves, but not nothing.

ah I can not complete the rescue from the''barbarians, and bring back Jojush Jne to her twin sister "

[gyffes]

Well, your english is better than my Vietnamese, but it still is difficult to understand you.

Cannot help you find Joshu Jne's sister: you WILL find her in the Barbarian caves. Just Keep Looking.

Did you get through the entire tower?

[ledung1212]

I completed tower 4
I have 5 money
I have battender key and in house cella but I do not find anything?

I do not find the way to the World 3
to make how to come to the world 3 ?
I have met Jne in the Barbarian cave , she said :" Jne dear" but I don't conplete quest
Please help me . Thank you very much

[ledung1212]

Gyffes. You must have a people Vietnam?
if you are people Vietnam , your phone number please

[gyffes]

look at my location, ledung.

The bartender cellar is just a side-treat. Not a way to anywhere.

To get to the next world, go to the poor section of town and try every door.

After meeting the girl in the Barbarian cave, go BACK to her sister.

[ledung1212]

thank your suggestions

I will try

[ledung1212]

powered by Kết quả I tried but was not. I have a computer fail
I can not open the door in any city of Baraquel
I try the doors are written: 'it's empty' or 'you can not find anything here'
I have met Jnu in the Barbarian cave and go back her sister but can't be

[ledung1212]

tôi đã làm theo hướng dẫn của bạn nhưng không được . Không thể mở được cửa nào trong 'city of baraquel' . Có 1 cửa bị khóa nhung tôi đã dùng Bartender's key để mở rồi ( nó nằm ở phía đông )
tất cả các quets đưa ra tôi đều đã hoàn thành , chỉ có việc cứu Jnu la tôi không làm được , tôi đã gặp Jnu trong hang Barbarian va quay trở lại chỗ chị cô ấy nhưng cô ấy vẫn nói như vậy . Tôi bị lổi chổ nào sao .
xin lỗi đã đánh tiếng việt vì tiếng anh của tôi quá kém . không biết bạn có hiểu được không

[ledung1212]

Where Do I Use The Red And Purple Dragon Keys!
Please ! Can I Help You
Thank

[ledung1212]

why can't i killed Sohl Orasare in the Sohl's Chamber
how to break the wall of force in the west Sohl's Cave

[ledung1212]

Help Dungeon of the Dead

I can not find a key here: dungeon of the dead

there are 10 buttons on the wall , I am must make to be whatted

[ledung1212]

Help Legacy Expansion Pack
1: dungeon of the dead: 10 in the 'keepers of the key' => do to get the key
2 : Ancient Tower : làm sao để mở "the Wall of Force "
3: Dark Hall: open the wall of force => I have to do to go forward

[gyffes]

There is a Legacy Expansion Pack thread with most of those questions answered.

[rocks_don2001]

found out how to get companions. Didn't like my crop of companions so I am just me. Explored the entire town of Decrantes, got a shield and some leather armor, went to kick some spider butt. Fine with the lesser spiders, but the regular spiders, eggad.
I M STOPPED AT "THE DUNGEON OF THE DEA" AND I CAN'T FIND THE KEY OF"KEEPARS OF KEY".REPLY FAST SO I CAN GO BEYOND THIS STAGE. NOW I M AT THE "TO THE MAZE" AND AFTER THAT GATE I CAN'T FIND A KEY TO OPEN THAT.

[rocks_don2001]

I Got That But How To Enter In The Gate Before Whom I Found "to The Maze"?i Can't Understand.

[rocks_don2001]

Got That But How To Enter In The Gate Before Whom I Found "to The Maze"?i Can't Understand.

[rocks_don2001]

found out how to get companions. Didn't like my crop of companions so I am just me. Explored the entire town of Decrantes, got a shield and some leather armor, went to kick some spider butt. Fine with the lesser spiders, but the regular spiders, eggad.
I M STOPPED AT "THE DUNGEON OF THE DEA" AND I CAN'T FIND THE KEY OF"KEEPARS OF KEY".REPLY FAST SO I CAN GO BEYOND THIS STAGE. NOW I M AT THE "TO THE MAZE" AND AFTER THAT GATE I CAN'T FIND A KEY TO OPEN THAT.

[rocks_don2001]

How do I remove individual maps from my palm and put it on my desktop?
I M STOPPED AT "THE DUNGEON OF THE DEA" AND I CAN'T FIND THE KEY OF"KEEPARS OF KEY".REPLY FAST SO I CAN GO BEYOND THIS STAGE. NOW I M AT THE "TO THE MAZE" AND AFTER THAT GATE I CAN'T FIND A KEY TO OPEN THAT.

[rocks_don2001]

I M STOPPED AT "THE DUNGEON OF THE DEA" AND I CAN'T FIND THE KEY OF"KEEPARS OF KEY".REPLY FAST SO I CAN GO BEYOND THIS STAGE. NOW I M AT THE "TO THE MAZE" AND AFTER THAT GATE I CAN'T FIND A KEY TO OPEN THAT.
I DON'T KNOW.CAN U ANSWER MY QUESTION?

[rocks_don2001]

How do I remove individual maps from my palm and put it on my desktop?
I DON'T KNOW.CAN U ANSWER MY QUESTION?

[ledung1212]

turn back telepost , you will key > to the maze

[gyffes]

Hey, Don, are you stupid or just stupid? This is not the thread devoted to the OFFICIAL EXPANSION PACK. And turn off your godda*ed caps lock.

[dimclockwork]

Hello Gyffes,

Wow. Your still helping people out. I am a long time reader of your posts on Legacy. Had it for years finally trying to complete it.

I'm at the house of tricks. I have legacy 1.05. Was able to obtain the key to the sphere, via doing the keeping the force fields on and teleporting.

I am using the map from http://markus.birth-online.de/files/Px00/legacy/legacymap.html - sadly I don't remember where I got it and this link is down, but there was one that let me download all the javascript for it.

Anyway, I cannot get the Key to Death. Also, I cannot get to the secret passage way (where the wall is grey) behind the first WoF (if you looking from north to south on the map), nor can I get the third secret wall open on the top part, most North west part.

When I started I stepped on that floor pad directly in front of me, like an idiot, and the door closed that leads to the Key to Death.

Also I started on house of tricks and did not do the other houses yet.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you

[gyffes]

Well, if you're gonna get stuck, this is the place to do it: it's hard!

A) the downside of using the maps is it tells you TOO much, which, I think, males it harder in many ways because you don't try to follow the map the way it flows.

B) worry not: you HAD to step on the floorplate that closed the door.

C) key: facing the door, turn LEFT and proceed to the hallway with two floorplates outside (where the passage back keeps closing behind you). At the end of this hall is a door you cannot open, yeh? You need to go beyond this annoying hall a fee more steps and pull the chain, then return to the hall _via the side exit!!!_

the door will be open. Flip the lever, exit, proceed along the rest of this part of the map until you get to a long corridor with a switch (lever-style) at the end. You ullex this already, yes? Good. Take the teleporters back to the startingpoint. The key to your death door should be open.

Get the key.

Make sure all the walls of force are ON.

Next go RIGHT around the map (where the flow takes you, as it were), looking everywhere for secret switches. Pay extra attention near the backside of that awful bit of wall we discussed earlier.

It should all fall together, now.

[dimclockwork]

C) key: facing the door, turn LEFT and proceed to the hallway with two floorplates outside (where the passage back keeps closing behind you). At the end of this hall is a door you cannot open, yeh? You need to go beyond this annoying hall a fee more steps and pull the chain, then return to the hall _via the side exit!!!_

I DO NOT see a door.
When you say turn LEFT you mean to face North yeah and go into the North room that had the bow on the shelf?
The first floorplate closes the wall behind.
The second floorplate takes two squares of wall away but not the third... (as it shows in the map..heh)

There is no chain in the room.

Does it make a difference that the map is really called "Home of Tricks"?

Thx again for your continuing help.

[dimclockwork]

also what "side exit"?

Additionally I have legacy for the palm. Using it on treo 700p.

[gyffes]

Ah, foolish me. I thought you had gone further in the North-ward path.

You have not searched hard enough. Why would the game designers make two blocks disappear only to leave you facing an end-of-corridor wall? EXAMINE THE WALLS!

[dimclockwork]

Sorry, I know you dont like maps, but I've been using them for so long now.
I created this from screenshot to help explain what im talking about.
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn136/dimclockwork/Homeoftricks.jpg

[dimclockwork]

OH wow... arghh. I could've swore I touched every wall in that room. ughh... Ty gyffes

[gyffes]

*snicker*
Legacy is like enlightenment: you can try and try and try on your own, but in asking, you often find the answer on your own.

Keep chuggin'.

[chris13om]

hey ! i downloaded the demo of legacy 1.05 for pc, i would like to know if its possible to rest like in "The Quest" ?

and also, do u know some RPG games like the quest legacy etc... that work on "turn by turn" ? (not realtime like ishar II dungeon master .... )

[gyffes]

Nope, no rest. Gotta return to an Inn or use potions.

Once you get more powerful, you can use the Teleport spell to jump to a town then "Go Back" to where you were. 'Til then, it's just one of the wonderful parts of bein' low-level: running in terror about the map with but a few HP left, poison slowly tick tickin' away your points, two of your characters paralyzed, spider on your butt, who knows what in front of you...

ahhh... the life!

I think I'll go create a new party, now!

(oh, and to your second question: No, I don't. However, Legacy's just so freakin' awesome, you don't really need anything else. Play each map 3 times with different parties, that'll occupy you long enough)

[chris13om]

ok thx for the answers i gonna test.

[Beladona]

Hi every one,

New Legacy player here. I just got it for my treo 755 the other day and since it seems like such a huge game, and so worth it, I was hoping to find a walk through, no luck though. Maybe someone here knows of some good links.

I love RPG's although I have never been very good at first person ( I hope that right, I mean when you dont see your characters on the screen) but this games really seems worth getting used to them. Does any one have some advice on getting familiar with the map and exploring towns. I seem to be getting very confused so I have spent 2 days just hanging out in the first inn lol.

Well I have tons of reading to do, so sorry if my question has been asked a million times before, and it probably has. :rolleyes:

[gyffes]

Welcome and welcome.

Legacy's a terrific game, esp when you consider the medium on which we play it.

There are no walkthroughs that I know of. Read this massive thread (or use the search feature) for suggestions and several of us old timers still pop in and answer questions.

General advice: keep doing what you're doing. A party of mages will be stronger as you get higher level than a party of fighters; it's tough at low levels, however, to buy enough mana potions to make mages useful the first few levels.

Which leads to the next bit of advice: don't buy potions other than mana if you can help it; don't buy scrolls at all. Check the armor store for rings or amulet/necklaces that raise you more than +1 -- they're surprisingly cheap ways of boosting vital stats.

Stats: don't waste ANY points on dexterity unless you have a swordmaster. Don't use the Highlander at all (coding bug means he didn't get any benefits and DID get the negatives described for his class). Cleric isn't REALLY worth the trouble. Battlemage rocks. Give mages all the INT they can take at each level-up, then add to END (hit points). Battlemages are a balance of INT & END until about level 10 when I start giving a point from END to STR (magic items only raise STR so far and you want your battlemage to inflict SOME damage with a weapon). Fighters are toughest b/c you need to balance raising STR, END, INT (INT provides magic resistance, vital at higher levels).

Spells: Curse is your best friend. Cast it, then magic missile-type spell and you'll see phenomenal damage. Curse also makes paralyze last longer. Bless should be on as often as possible to maximize your party's damage and to hit results.

Put Bow & Arrows into your mages' hands, put them in the back row. Put a fighter & battlemage up front. You're now prepared to kick royal booty.

Oh, and use your mini-map so you can scamper back to town to REST with minimal risk of getting trapped against a tree and wolf'd to death.

Enjoy this time: As I noted above, no matter how powerful my parties have gotten (I tend to abandon them around level 35ish), the most fun is/was when they're level 2 and running in terror from a spider in the catacombs, one guy's life tick ticking away due to a poison I cannot yet Cure.

Ahhh, the good ol' days of Early Legacy...

HEY REDSHIFT, WHEN WILL IT COME TO iPHONE??

[Beladona]

thanks for the info, i haven't leveled up yet so its good to know where to stick my points. So is a mage better then a cleric. I usually prefer to use caster's when i play MMORPG's ( im to selfish to play a healer, lol). I have a cleric in my party but he does seem kinda useless. Can a mage heal? Right now I have a battle mage, sword master, cleric and adventurer. so what should i replace the cleric with, and should i replace any one else.

im on the first quest, the spiders and i am kinda getting used to the map now but i have to check in constantly so i don't get lost. what do u mean by using the mini map to go back to town, is there some way of teleporting?

oh yeah as far as scrolls and potions go i tend never to buy stuff like that in games, i usually find enough laying around and just use those.

I know i really should use the search button, but im just to lazy right now, i got bit by a dog at work ( i'm a bather at PetSmart) and they made me get a tetanus shot today and it's been making me throw up not to mention the pain lol so all i wanna do is curl up with my Palm and kill some spiders (and pretend they are stinky dogs) (and oh yeah im kidding about the dogs lol, I love dogs) :p ;)


oh yeah and ps, ( i know this is a total I should use the search button question but....) i was reading about a bug after level 50 where you go up many levels at a time. Is this true, is there a way to avoid it ( other then not hitting level 50) I would hate to have to drop a character because he decided to take a leap

ok back to the game time for me

[gyffes]

Mage: definitely rule over clerics. Mages heal, slightly less efficiently (mana - to- health point-wise) but since you get benefit of massive attack and defense spells, later, it's worth it to wrap all skilz in one character. Or three if you like a MostlyMage party.

Map: No, by 'use mini map' I meant just that: get good at reading that so you don't have to keep getting out of the gameflow to find your way.

Search: Too lazy to search is not uncommon. Just know that our patience for questions we KNOW we've answered is... limited. But for a Bit Bather, I suppose we'll exercise patience.

As for the level 50 bug: I believe it' still there. But you're not going to encounter it for a LONG time, if ever. This isn't like a lot of games where those levels are common. Usually, once you hit mid-20s, progression slows a LOT, especially if you don't replay maps.

[xsoft]

Hi,
Im at World 3, I kill both dragon, and pass (or I guess that I did) everything at Fire Empire and Frozen Empire. I want to go to House of [anything] but I cannot find how.

At W3 town is still blocked path to the south by some magic starts like at prev. worlds.

Tips please ;) Thanks.

Btw, have you link where are maps?

[gyffes]

No map links, you don't want them: they really are confusing because they show you pieces you can't yet see but don't show you what you need to do to access those areas. Move through the Houses carefully, look EVERYWHERE, touch EVERYTHING, you'll do fine.

To open the access to the Houses, you need to go back to the Pub and speak with the fellow who assigned you your tasks.

[xsoft]

No map links, you don't want them: they really are confusing because they show you pieces you can't yet see but don't show you what you need to do to access those areas. Move through the Houses carefully, look EVERYWHERE, touch EVERYTHING, you'll do fine.

To open the access to the Houses, you need to go back to the Pub and speak with the fellow who assigned you your tasks.

Im inside, thanks. Now its finally time for houses quests.

[Mabsoutamax]

No map links, you don't want them: they really are confusing because they show you pieces you can't yet see but don't show you what you need to do to access those areas. Move through the Houses carefully, look EVERYWHERE, touch EVERYTHING, you'll do fine.

To open the access to the Houses, you need to go back to the Pub and speak with the fellow who assigned you your tasks.

Gyffes!! You are still here. How are things?? Any of the old bunch here?? I'm playing Morowind with my son these days. And, by the way, just finished teh second book. Editing it now in the evenings. I'll look in again soon. Cheers!!

[rebdaniel]

Mabs!!! great to hear from you. Some of us have moved over to the iphone/ipod, to which Redshift has ported quest, but not (yet) legacy -- they have general plans to do something which would bring back the multi-party nature of legacy and simplify things a bit from the fairly complex gameplay of the quest. Gyffes has played the quest a bit but clearly longs for legacy on his ipod -- I've dabbled a bit in making a quest module, but life has intervened many times. Hope the writing continues to go well!

[rebdaniel]

Now what hole has gyffes fallen into?

[gyffes]

Oddly, I received NO notices that this post'd been updated... wandered in by accident.

I feel so... so.. YOUNG .. again! Remember those heady days of our youth, when Legacy was new and spiders scary as hell?

Ahhh...Legacy. If only it existed on my iPod...

[Zedie]

Hi dudes:

First at all, sorry for my bad english.

Now i will tell u that i having problem in the n'goras cave, i've passed the 4 levers and the wall, but now im stuck in the zone where are 3 red stoneheads and a hole, can u help me pls? ^^!

[gyffes]

Zedie, I'd love to help you but I just can't tell, from what you wrote, where you are. Are you still in N'Gora's cave? If you have passed the 4 levers and the Wall of Force, you're nearly done with this level.

Walk down the hall near the Mana stone and the fountain of healing, step past the hole when it is solid, teleport somewhere, kick N'Gora's ***, teleport to the next town.

[Kayumkana]

Hey guys im new ere n i want help in reg code for legacy expansion pack ,the think is i love dis game bt problem is have nt enough money to buy dis pack so wat can i do frends

[rebdaniel]

Don't expect any one here to give you the code. The folks at redshift worked long and hard on this. There are a number of free expansions, for parties of different levels, but if you want the official expansion, you should pay for it. If you have enough money to have a computer with an internet connection and a device to play legacy on, you can figure out a way to get enough money to pay for the expansion.

[gyffes]

However, I will offer this:

Die slowly, painfully and with as little dignity as possible. Preferably while being read by some other thief Sarah Palin's 'book'.

[rebdaniel]

gyffes, I love it when you're all sweet and gentle.

[gyffes]

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt..

[Mabsoutamax]

Mabs!!! great to hear from you. Some of us have moved over to the iphone/ipod, to which Redshift has ported quest, but not (yet) legacy -- they have general plans to do something which would bring back the multi-party nature of legacy and simplify things a bit from the fairly complex gameplay of the quest. Gyffes has played the quest a bit but clearly longs for legacy on his ipod -- I've dabbled a bit in making a quest module, but life has intervened many times. Hope the writing continues to go well!

Oops! Should have checked back in!! Rarely play Legacy these days. My boy asked me to get Morrowind so we play his most of the time. I miss the camaraderie we had in the old forum. It was fun.

Been very busy and moved on to a new job three months ago.

Writing? Yes, I finished the second book and finished the edit tonight. Just have to do the final print, check and send to publisher.

I'll look back i more often now. Great to see all the name and the indefatigable (able or ible) Gyffes.

[Texas Girl]

Haven't been on here for a very long time. I would love to see legacy on the iphone. I can't play Quest b/c my palm is too old. Good to see that there are still a few "old timers" around.

[gyffes]

Man, I do SO miss our PDArcade days. Those were heady times; we were all so young, fit, carefree. Our Palms were new, our screens as yet undamaged by endless forward-arrow tapping, our hair mostly in place b/c we'd finally got n00bs to stop asking, "how can I get through the green door? I've searched everwhre and taped everything!!" [sic]

ahh, yout. So wasted on the youtful.

(did Mabs, that beer-sodden sand flea-picking expat, just call me fat?? I am affronted. And so is my rear!)

Texas Girl, have you Quested on yer iPod/phone? It is not, alas, my cuppa, so I make due with firing up a virtual XP and Legacying there. Ifwhen Redshift makes me a port of Legacy for the iPT, I'll wriggle uncontrollably with delight. Nay, paroxize m'self right out of my seat, e'en.

Someday!

[J_F]

sigh ...

there are 255 pages on this thread and I am stuck in the Frozen Empire - can't find some keys and can't get into the Fire 'side of the force'

does it worth spend the rest of my life reading this whole thread or is there a "summary"? (yes, I have all the pdf maps and some other scattered hints here and there)

Any help will be greatly appreciated

[gyffes]

Well, if you'd read the entire bit -- or, heck, even just a few pages -- you'd've noticed we have a plethora of "I'm in the Ice Empire and I'm stuck at the [color] door and I've touched everything and done everything and can't move forwards! Help!" questions, most of which were sneered at.

However, we also had a few, "I'm stuck outside a door on the east side of the map near the three floor-plates and the one-way passage; how do I turn off the wall of force on the right?" questions, which we answered with either sufficient subtle suggestions or outright "do this" ('though we, frankly, try and avoid those 'spoiler' responses) answers.

If you don't want to read all 3,212,382 pages, don't. But do search for some specific terms and, if all else fails, return and ask some specific questions.

Note: a search will also reveal my general disapproval of using the maps: because they show you areas you haven't been and to which you haven't managed to find access, they're often more confusing than if you'd progressed through the dungeon in a logical progressive fashion, uncovering what you need as you were intended to find it. Instead, the maps have you saying, "I need to go over there, but can't! WAAAAH!"

[dots]

Hi Gyffes,
Played Legacy years ago and loved it. A few days ago I liked to try it again and bought the expansion Legend. I was addicted again!
Once are twice I I visited the forum because I was stuck somewhere: reading all comments from you and others was almost as much fun as playing the game...
Now: I know your mind will not be on this game anymore, but I'm stuck in Gorak's keep and cannot find his Bane (I have found the key. And the amazonian battle skirt....I have the other bane-which is useless). I read the few threads about it, and I touched all walls or tried to smash them. I know, I will have missed something,my eyes are hurting, and I am tired going over every inch again! I am stupid and maybe lazy, but could you -please,please- tell me? A very slight chance of a bug: I went out of legend once and then back again and got a message telling me that a few things would be reset if I didn't mind, all thingies and points would not be lost, but....could it be?
Many thanks if you could help,
D

[J_F]

thanks for the advice gyffes - fyi, I dropped the pdfs (now I am being killed over and over again in the next level)

[gyffes]

J_F: DO you have some specific question with which I can help you? Tell me where you are, what you're facing, etc, maybe I can nudge you forward. Remember, at some point you go as far as you can in the Ice Empire and you have to toddle over to the Fire Empire, where you'll explore 'til you can go no further, at which point you toddle on back to Ice... lather, rinse, repeat.

dots: The Bane is found via a hidden switch that many many missed.

In the entryway, face the dead guy who spoke with you. Turn RIGHT and proceed forward. Turn RIGHT and proceed forward 'til the corridor turns to the LEFT. Now, start side-stepping whilst cheerfully whacking at the wall in front of you.

[dots]

Gyffes,
I presume with this dead guy you mean the disappointed Jesus figure hanging on the wall? And going RRL ending up in the SE corner?(meaning the long S corridor wall) I banged and smashed all walls and my head. There is a hidden entrance I found long time ago (S wall): now there is nothing anymore, but if the Bane was in there than it is removed from my game after I went out and in into Legacy..... (I wrote about in my previous mail). And of course I found the other hidden entrance in this corner a bit up N ending in the farthest SE corner.
That would mean I would have spend the stunning sum of $5 and not being able to finish the game?
I go back reading a book....
D

[gyffes]

No, you're not SOL. The hidden area you found on the long corridor wall should've either allowed you to open the area where the Bane resides or given you a key you need for there (can't recall specifics at the moment). When you came back into the game and it said, "hey, you have some items..." did you say, "fine fine, let me keep the items"?

I'll take a gawdparty through there, see if I can figure out specifics for you. Enjoy your book 'til then.

[dots]

Well, it was Finnegans Wake so I finished it rather quickly....
Maybe I am S and L but somehow you don't make sense with " The hidden area you found on the long corridor wall should've either allowed you to open the area where the Bane resides or given you a key you need for there" , because in case of getting that key (which btw it was, come to think of it) there still has to be another hidden entrance for the Bane. The key was for the entrance N behind which the electric wall is situated, no?
Anyway, nothing there now. And the message from going in and out of the game said something like " we have to reset the game, but you will not lose any objects or save games" or something like it. And I didn't miss other things from my inventory. (except for that bottle of whisky. Where did that go yesterday?).
You could send me the Bane maybe?!? (you must have several laying around, no?)
D

[gyffes]

Ok, you have the key: now (and note, I'm still doing this from memory, so bear with me if my accuracy isn't so hot), with your back to the hidden area where you found the key, go forward a few paces and slightly left.

If you try casting spells, you'll notice, along the wall to your left, that you won't be able to. Somewhere along there is, I guess, a hidden entrance to an area where the Bane resides.

[pugsley1974]

I need to find the last orb in the home of patience I have tried every wall and every switch I can find dose any one know were it is ???????????????????

[gyffes]

a) If you've tried every wall, you'd have it.

b) you've told us NOTHING about where you are or what you've tried

c) stop posting in threads that aren't related to this.

d) Does.

[gyffes]

Missed me?

Y'know, I've perused several diff RPGs for my iPT and they all bite. I SO SO SO wish they'd port Legacy over, Apple's obnoxious rules notwithstanding, 'cause there ain' no thing I need more at times than to whip out my ipod an' kill a few baddies, Legacystyle.

[Mabsoutamax]

Hi! Nothing since April. Where did you go Gyffes??

[gyffes]

Hi! Nothing since April. Where did you go Gyffes??
I'm here, but with no questions, I languish, underused.

Meanwhile, as I noted above, I seek in vain for an iPod-based rpg that can even come close to replacing Legacy in my portablegaming heart.

[J_F]

I'm still playing ... but with no new expansions I am rationing everything and only playing on special occasions ...

3 best things palm platform gave me: Legacy, Space Trader and Tricorder emulator ... I am getting old ...

[Gremlin75]

Greetings! I was encouraged to contact this forum about a problem I'm having with the WinMo version of Legacy - I've purchased the 1.05 version, and have completed the first map. I wanted to try out Morah's Plan & King's Aide, but neither map will appear when I enter the transporter in Descartes. However, the expansion pack (with Anduervil) does work...so far! I've copied the MORAH.PDB & KAIDE.PDB files to my Legacy directory, but those maps do not show up. Am I missing a step, or is there something I need to do first? I'm playing a registered version of the game, so that's not it - I've posted the e-mail from Redshift below. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Elendil <EMAIL DELETED> wrote:

Hi Terry,

Unfortunately, the programmer who created Legacy has left us a long time ago. We (the two remaining members) know almost nothing about the technical aspects of Legacy. According to what we know, if you did what you described, it should work, so we cannot offer any advice, sorry.

There are a few people who have been playing Legacy for a very long time, some of them are hanging out here:

http://www.1src.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=131

See the "Legacy - Help With Quests" subforum. Maybe they'll have an idea.

Regards,
The Redshift Team

[gyffes]

Interesting. Some questions for you:

How many maps do you have in the directory? Note, ALL load when Legacy starts; on the Palm device(s), too many maps would prevent others from appearing.

Have you tried any other maps? Wizardry also is accessed via the Descartes teleporter and the short but fun Elvira is found off the Beraquel teleporter.

Oh, here's a thought: isn't King's Aide a For-Pay map? Perhaps you've got an unlicensed copy of KAide? The same author's Revenge also was a for pay that was a bit odd to navigate if you'd not paid (or paid AFTER beginning to explore).

I confess, I only managed to play Morah once because I believe it had a habit of not showing up for me, too. When I did manage to play it, I was disappointed that the effort didn't have a larger payoff.

Understand that any map you remove will be "wiped clean;" next time you reinstall that map, it'll be started afresh (though this DOES mean duplicates of MOST items!).

One last thought: Another place to check for help is www.catacomber.com; quite a few old timers hang out there.

[Catta]

Cripes, for some reason I still can't post as Catacomber.

Go to my website at

www.catacomber.com

you'll find a lot of free expansions for Legacy including some recent ones believe it or not. : )

try them and post there if you can't get them

let's start with that.

I don't know what your problem is cause you should be able to access both those files.

I'll try to hang with you until you solve the problem or let you know it can't be solveable but this seems solveable.

For help with those expansions at my website, ask gyffes. : ) He's the man. I learned at his knees.

I mean I was down on mine, begging. : )

[Gremlin75]

Thanks! I'll check it out.

The King's Aide & Morah's Plan maps were downloaded from the Redshift website (under the Legacy/Smartphone section). That was where I got the 1.05 version of Legacy itself. I'll go to Catacomber and download some of the maps there, install them (by copying to the directory, I assume!) and give it a try.

Regarding how many maps I have installed...just the default (which I assume is the Lecacy.pdb file), the MissPack.pdb (which I believe is the official expansion, although the copy I have is the unregistered version), the MORAH.pdb and KSAID.pdb maps. I've taken the MORAH.pdb and KSAID.pdb maps.

Gremlin

[Gremlin75]

UPDATE - I downloaded Wizardry by Werdna (the first one I could find!), installed it and went back to the teleporter at Descartes. Worked like a champ - I'm at the Proving Grounds now. Will roam about for a bit (my chars are Lvl 15..should be safe, right?) just to confirm it works, but it looks good so far! Thanks again for the help!

Gremlin

[gyffes]

Excellent. Yeah, Wizardry is for characters in the 3-8 level (though if you go in at 3, you'll emerge closer to 10ish, maybe higher). King's Aide is for levels 4-10 (go in at 4, emerge at 10-12).

While the Official Expansion Pack is -- officially -- 'next', I recommend you BUY Legend and do that instead. It's a terrific add-on that will really extend your Legacy gaming. Legend is best for levels 15-23ish. Maybe take your NEXT group of adventurers in there?

[Gremlin75]

Well, I "think" I've finished Wizardry - I received a notice about the Blue Ribbon, but got some strange message about having to hand over all my cash & possessions to get something...not sure what that's about! When I try talking to Trebor again, he just asks for the amulet (which I already gave him!). This was a pretty fun expansion...although some of the wrap-arounds on the maps were frustrating!

Any idea if the editor is available for Smartphones? I wouldn't mind taking a crack at putting together a map...

Gremlin

[gyffes]

The blue ribbon merely allows you to use the deeper elevator. Are you sure you gave him THE amulet?

Wizardry is a near-perfect recreation of an ancient game, one of the first '3D' games; the puzzles (especially the invisi-maze) were maddening back then, as well.

As far as editor goes, head over to catacomber.com and ask around there.

[Gremlin75]

I'm pretty sure...I got a 250K XP bonus! I'll go back in and check again though.
I'll see if anyone at catacomber has the Smartphone editor. Thanks gyffes!

Gremlin

[Catta]

Hi, gyffes.

I wish they'd port Legacy over too. : ) I actually made a sort of clone of the old revolving holes in Asteroids II for the Quest--but I couldn't do as good a job as in the original Legacy--because there are no supported graphics for it--but my clone is a memorial to them---I remember those revolving holes and how hard they were. There are few games out there as challenging as Legacy was and is. : )

The editor is still only available for the pc but it can make expansions for pc/pocketpc and palm. You can contact elendil@redshift.hu if you are interested in the editor that runs on pc.

@new players of Legacy---If you haven't played Danny's Legend and Legend II expansions for Legacy you really should.

[gyffes]

Anyone found an iphone/iPT app that is SIMILAR to our beloved Legacy?

[Catta]

I haven't. I don't think anything really compares to it.

[Catta]

Hi, gyffes!!! : )

[gyffes]

*smile* hola, love; hippo gnu deer.

How's tricks? Stumbled 'pon any quality iPod-based RPG, recently?

[Catta]

Nothing that compares to Legacy with the ability to add to your team. : )

Legacy is still my favorite all time game.

[rebdaniel]

Hey guys! I'm engaged, to a lovely female Rabbi from Philly. Gyffes, there's a chance we'll do the wedding up at my dad's in NH; I'll let you know. In any case, the new year seems to be starting out well :) -- hope the same is true for you

[gyffes]

My dear Rebbe, I'm so very pleased for you! Huzzahs! Navel Tov! Whoo! Do let me know, I'll break some glasses for you. And maybe a nose or two 'pon which they sit.

[rebdaniel]

Ah the great non-violent trio -- Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., and gyffes :)

[gyffes]

S'why today's Get Fuzzy made me laugh out loud with recognition!

http://comics.com/get_fuzzy/2011-01-20/