HandStory Tweaking

[Experiment 626]

I'd like to move HandStory to MS.

Will it work on MS? If so, (once I register it) will the webclip/news options it has still work if its on MS or does that portion of the app require it to be in RAM?

What about e-books? It seems HandStory doesn't like me keeping e-books on my MS. I've had to move over the Harry Potter book I'm reading right now into RAM for HandStory to recognize it/open it.

#1: Can HandStory work off MS with all options functioning?
#2: Can I at least keep e-books on the MS to conserve RAM?

Thanks!

[OgNar]

You should have a folder called Handstory on your MS.
/Palm/Programs/Handstory
Which should have been created automaticly. If not create it and drop your books in there. It should work just fine then.
Haven't tried running Handstory itself off of MS. Give it a try.

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by OgNar
You should have a folder called Handstory on your MS.
/Palm/Programs/Handstory
Which should have been created automaticly. If not create it and drop your books in there. It should work just fine then.
Haven't tried running Handstory itself off of MS. Give it a try.

That did not work. Willing to try other ideas if you have them.

Note: I bought my first MS after HandStory was already installed. Do I need to uninstall handstory and reinstall perhaps?

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by sebring
My categories also stick, I create the same category on both the handheld and in the desktop. One of the advantages of the way Handstory syncs to card is that Handstory itself can also be stored on the card. Apps that have their own conduit have to be in RAM to sync. There is a bit of a delay while Handstory moves the files from the palm/launcher directory to the Handstory directory, but for me it is worth it to me to be able to keep the App on MS.

The above I found in a similar Thread "Handstory - Installing to Card - Wierd Situation" and I think it answers my questions fairly well.. sorry about starting a new thread.. I'd read this other thread last week and I'd forgotten about it.

Thanks!

[Experiment 626]

I've moved Handstory and all its associated programs/parts onto my MS.. /Palm/Programs/Handstory....

Handstory seems to function just fine, though a slow load time I'm just fine with (saves more RAM this way) but same problem... isn't noticing any of the ebooks/text/docs in the /Palm/Programs/Handstory directory with it.

I'd love to be able to make subdirectories under /Handstory.. but just leaving them in the directory with Handstory app itself seems too confusing for it to find them.

Suggestions?

I've already rereshed Launcher X and refreshed the files in the Handstory app itself.. still no go. It's nice it gets all the doc/text/files off RAM though and lists them as before.. I sure like Handstory.. just trying to figure out how to get my ebooks to stay on MS and still be used now.

[Experiment 626]

I moved an e-book "Amendments to the US Constitution" out of /palm/programs/handstory into the root MS directory and it could not find it... I then moved it to RAM and it instantly found it.

If I move the ebook off RAM and onto MS it vanishes.. changed Launcher X to also recognize the handstory subdirectory on MS as one of its locations and the handstory icon shows up just fine in Launcher X and loads fine.. just Handstory isn't finding any docs on the MS is all. (pout)

[Experiment 626]

I moved HandStory over to MS.. but hmmmm

Just checking out RAM and see all those same HandStory files back in RAM again.. does running HandStory but them all back into RAM? If so I can deal with that.. but shouldn't it clear out Handstory and all its components out of RAM when I shut HandStory down?

If not.. then why put it on MS at all?

[Experiment 626]

Update... the Handstory files in RAM now are all less than 1KB.. they appear to just be 'shortcuts' or placeholds so when working they reference the proper locations off MS to work... no worries anymore with Handstory keeping files in RAM after its shut down.

Still can't read any ebooks off MS though.

[gvtexas]

Originally posted by Experiment 626
I'd love to be able to make subdirectories under /Handstory.. but just leaving them in the directory with Handstory app itself seems too confusing for it to find them.

You may have tried this, but if not, sometimes the obvious escapes us.

Do you have Handstory set to update itself on each load? Sometimes it does lose track. (Can do this manually, or set it for automatic under preferences.)

As for the subdirectories, you do know that you can set categories for docs/clips/ebooks/memos in Handstory? With this feature you can simulate a subdirectory environment while keeping all files in the place the program is familiar with (usually!).

Again, you probably already tried/knew these, but didn't see them mentioned....

Gary

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by gvtexas
Do you have Handstory set to update itself on each load? Sometimes it does lose track. (Can do this manually, or set it for automatic under preferences.)


Yep, was already trying that and it wasn't/isn't working.


Originally posted by gvtexas
As for the subdirectories, you do know that you can set categories for docs/clips/ebooks/memos in Handstory? With this feature you can simulate a subdirectory environment while keeping all files in the place the program is familiar with (usually!).

Yep.. did that.. I'm just real anal about keeping things organized (Hence my worship of the PDA in the first place, hee).. even on my Memory stick I like things all in a line and standing at attention.

Been trying all morning to get HandStory to read files off the MS and still haven't figured it out. Put me back on the ShortBus and send me back to school.

:p

[sebring]

I keep Handstory (the app only) on MS in the Palm/Launcher directory, moved there by either ZLauncher or MegaLauncher. I elect to have all Handstory clips, etc go to MS. The Palm installer puts them in the Palm/Launcher directory and Handstory moves them to it's own directory next time I run it on my handheld. As for ebooks, Handstory does not read all ebook formats. I'm not sure which ones it does and which ones it doesn't, but any that it finds in RAM, that it can read, will show up in the ebook category. If it finds an ebook it can read, in Palm/Launcher directory, it will move them to it's own directory and you will no longer be able to read it with another reader (the other reader won't know where to find it).

[ksjenkins]

To alleviate the extreemly long hotsync times, I move my HandStory clips directly to the /PALM/PROGRAMS/HandStory directory using MSImport. This way I can move my 2.5MB's of clips in under 20 seconds instead of several minutes with HotSync.

I don't read e-books with HandStory because of the smooth autoscroll that PalmReader has.

I haven't tried running HandStory off the MS because I have 6 MS's and I really like HandStory to help manage my memo's.

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by sebring
I keep Handstory (the app only) on MS in the Palm/Launcher directory, moved there by either ZLauncher or MegaLauncher. I elect to have all Handstory clips, etc go to MS. The Palm installer puts them in the Palm/Launcher directory and Handstory moves them to it's own directory next time I run it on my handheld. As for ebooks, Handstory does not read all ebook formats. I'm not sure which ones it does and which ones it doesn't, but any that it finds in RAM, that it can read, will show up in the ebook category. If it finds an ebook it can read, in Palm/Launcher directory, it will move them to it's own directory and you will no longer be able to read it with another reader (the other reader won't know where to find it).

Just tried it.. moved all Handstory files from Palm/Programs/Handstory to Palm/Launcher and HandStory works fine... but still the same issue.. not seeing any other ebooks/documents/txt files that are in the same Palm/Launcher directory with it.

Doesn't seem to be the problem.. I check Launcher X mapping to make sure its mapping to Palm/Lanuncher.. as well as Palm/Programs/HandStory.. seems to find it just find with Zlauncher and Launcher X.. just HandStory isn't able to do the same.

Yes, I'm "Update List" each time I try something new.

Could this all boil down to a feature that disabled (reading off MS) until I register HandStory? Or at least a menu option that is disabled (there are a few disabled menu screens I can't access).. that will be solved/available after I register it (hopefully tomarrow). (Registering is going to be my valentines day request from my wife) :D

[sebring]

I don't know whether registering has anything to do with it or not. When I bought Handstory, they only had one version and the demo was fully functional. Now they have two versions, and I didn't think they had a demo of the full version, just the free Basic version. I also don't know what the limitations are on the Basic version, if that is the one you have.

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by sebring
..... Now they have two versions, and I didn't think they had a demo of the full version, just the free Basic version. I also don't know what the limitations are on the Basic version, if that is the one you have.

Yep.. using the Free Basic Version right now.

[OcellNuri]

The free version of 2.3 does not have VFS support. All clips must stay in RAM. I just bought the Suite of 2.3, and I'm working on getting my clips setup right now. The Suite is $30, but supports hi-res, VFS, small fonts in books, and a few other features I can't remember.

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by OcellNuri
The free version of 2.3 does not have VFS support. All clips must stay in RAM. I just bought the Suite of 2.3, and I'm working on getting my clips setup right now. The Suite is $30, but supports hi-res, VFS, small fonts in books, and a few other features I can't remember.

$30? ? Ick.

I'll sport the $19.95 and just deal with moving over one book at a time to read it. The smaller files like the U.S. Constitution move over quickly and don't take that much time.. I'll learn to live with it. Thanks OcellNuri !

[jbarr]

I bought HandStory, and it totally rocks with the Memory Stick...to a degree. The only issue I have had is when I move the HandStory app itself to the Memory Stick, sometimes, I get "freezing" when I start it. If I do a soft reset and then delete the preferences using LauncherX, it cleared it up. So, I just keep the main app in RAM. ALL other docs, eBooks, images, clips are kept in the HandStory directory on the MS. I move them there either using MSImport or HotSync. Either way, I have no problems.

Again, I'm using the purchased v2.3 version. Well worth the money.

[Experiment 626]

Originally posted by jbarr
Again, I'm using the purchased v2.3 version. Well worth the money.

I'm running Handstory Basic (free) off MS and its never locked up on me..

It looks like my storing e-books on MS will be solved then by registering the program. Talked to the wife and begged (didn't work) will have to wait for my next paycheck to register it (she does the budget).

Thank you everyone for all your help.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by jbarr
I bought HandStory, and it totally rocks with the Memory Stick...to a degree. The only issue I have had is when I move the HandStory app itself to the Memory Stick, sometimes, I get "freezing" when I start it. If I do a soft reset and then delete the preferences using LauncherX, it cleared it up. So, I just keep the main app in RAM. ALL other docs, eBooks, images, clips are kept in the HandStory directory on the MS. I move them there either using MSImport or HotSync. Either way, I have no problems.

Again, I'm using the purchased v2.3 version. Well worth the money.

Larry's Tip 2003 :)

If you are using large web clippings, it first transfers them to the /palm/launcher/ folder. When you enter the app, it transfers the web clippings from the /palm/launcher/ folder to it's own, if the files are large it may take awhile and appear to be locked up with a white screen.

Solution: Be patient:D!