View Full Version : Should Sony drop the Palm OS?
T1000X
02-11-2003, 10:25 PM
I love poles, and hearing other people's opinions. Please let me know what you think.
rhart00
02-11-2003, 10:41 PM
no way definitely stay with palm os!!!
gfunkmagic
02-11-2003, 11:00 PM
Sony already is a licensee of palmOS and Symbian? So in a sense they are pursuing multiple platfomrs. However, I don't think Sony would ever entertain the thought of supporting arch enemy M$ with their OS! That will never happen...
Sony PPC's would = ELITE! With the form factor of the SJ30 in a PPC...droollllllllllllllllllll but then again, there is always HP iPAQ H1910.
No, the Palm OS is the only serious alternative to the M$ PPC. All others are still fringe offerings with very little community support in the way of applications and accessories.
hansschmucker
02-12-2003, 07:56 AM
They should not. I love the compact simple interface common among palm applications. I'm willing to wait a little longer for games to arrive in favour of better quality.
MS can keep their Bloatware. The day Sony switches to PPC I will buy a Tungston and throw my PS2 "out of Windows"(tm)
gothicaleigh
02-12-2003, 09:32 AM
Why would they switch? I'm under the impression that they were doing fine where they are. Palm OS is still the best thing going for day to day and actual work-related activities. The new OS's are closing the gap in the multimedia side too.
What exactly does the PPC offer over Palm anymore?
jmg_NX21
02-12-2003, 09:55 AM
IF the Clie's were to have the PPC/MS OS I would NOT have purchased mine...
hobodale111
02-12-2003, 10:06 AM
I tink that if Sony went into developing PDA's that could run on multiple platforms like palm os and pocket pc they would increase there sales and open up to a lot more buyers because I know a lot of people who love the cle design but wont buy t because they hate palm os. It would als be just plain cool.
hansschmucker
02-12-2003, 10:32 AM
to hobodale. That would be the first REAL pocket pc! Switch between Linux and PalmOS whever you want. Ohthe possibilities!
cbulock
02-12-2003, 02:25 PM
I would like to see a PDA that could run multiple OS's. I would like to try out Linux on a PDA but not enough to ditch PalmOS.
hobodale111
02-12-2003, 02:40 PM
I dont think sony should ditch palm os I think that it should just make a pda thats compatible with other platforms software.
rhart00
02-12-2003, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by jmg_NX21
IF the Clie's were to have the PPC/MS OS I would NOT have purchased mine...
I second that.
Unregistered
02-12-2003, 05:40 PM
Originally posted by rhart00
I second that.
I bet you can't think of 1 reason why not to ditch Palm other than "you wasted 300 dollars on your palm and are providing a 100% biased opinion"
jmg_NX21
02-12-2003, 05:58 PM
Unregistered and YOU ARE?
Oh, a troll, welcome but...
rfarias02
02-12-2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by hobodale111
I tink that if Sony went into developing PDA's that could run on multiple platforms like palm os and pocket pc they would increase there sales and open up to a lot more buyers because I know a lot of people who love the cle design but wont buy t because they hate palm os. It would als be just plain cool.
I actually read somewhere about a PalmOS emulator for the PocketPC.... :eek: That somehow is being multi-platform, isn't it?.
But anyhow, I like my clié and I don't see why SONY should discontinue working with PalmOS.
hobodale111
02-12-2003, 06:11 PM
But anyhow, I like my clié and I don't see why SONY should discontinue working with PalmOS. [/B][/QUOTE]
I dont think sony should give up palm os I like it but it should be compatible with all other operating systems so that when you have a friend with pocket pc you can actually share files and apps.
rfarias02
02-12-2003, 06:16 PM
Sounds good enough...
Sony had just invested $20 Million to PalmSource. I don't want to say this but Sony might take over the PALM OS in the long run. If I remember it correctly, there was a rumor of selling (or giving up) the whole PALM OS to Sony. Sony-Palm OS? Hmmm.
hobodale111
02-12-2003, 06:24 PM
That would be awesome if sony did takeover palm because then they would make it a lot better and add a lot more stuff. They would also be ale to make pda's that better suit the platform.
cbulock
02-13-2003, 12:57 AM
I like Sony products, but I would be worried if Sony took over the OS. They really like to make things proprietary and I think they would only do harm to the OS development. But I could be wrong.
Eric S
02-13-2003, 10:07 AM
I have to disagree with the idea that Sony taking over PalmSource being a good thing. Sony isn't as open as PalmSource about how to program the OS, their APIs violate the prinicpal of least astonishment, etc. I could go on, but I'm sure everyone is as tired of hearing me as I am of saying it. Sony makes good PDAs, don't get me wrong. I'm happy with my NX-60. I could be happier with a few minor tweaks, though.
Originally posted by msgate
Sony had just invested $20 Million to PalmSource. I don't want to say this but Sony might take over the PALM OS in the long run. If I remember it correctly, there was a rumor of selling (or giving up) the whole PALM OS to Sony. Sony-Palm OS? Hmmm.
I heard a rumor that there would be armageddon on y2k. Must be true.....since its a RUMOR right msgate? uh NO
nextyoyoma
02-13-2003, 05:50 PM
erm...shut up. don't bash here...go back to ppc forum for that.
jackson
02-15-2003, 11:10 AM
The reason I bought a Clie, is that my initial decison was to run Palm OS, then Clie (NR70V) seemed the best machine running Palm on the day I purchased.
I appreciate the thousands of apps available for the Palm, and I appreciate supporting an alternate to Windows OS. I have no quarrel with Windows or PPC, and recognize we need choices.
Getting a new brand-new OS debugged and running right, then encouraging giant numbers of programmers to write for it is a multi-year job, with no guarantee of the outcome. It would seem awkward for Sony to have machines running two different OS's under the Clie name, so why should they do anything different at present? I think it aint' broke.
Palm made it clear that their philosophy is for Palm apps to be small, quick and "look-up" in function, and not data-entry in nature. Seems correct.
Jackson
Molerat
02-15-2003, 11:40 AM
I love my NX70V, and I think Palm is the best solution for handheld devices. But I'm starting to wonder if Sony is good for Palm OS.
The primary strength of the Palm platform is its simplicity. Since the introduction of the CLIE line, Sony has been splintering the Palm platform. Compare development branches:
Palm: Black and white standard, color standard, OS5 color.
Sony: Black and white HiRes, color HiRes, color HiRes+, OS5 HiRes+.
Sony introduced 4 distinct development branches, for SCREEN ALONE. There's also Palm virtual grafitti and Sony VG. Palm SD/MMC and Sony memory stick. Palm audio/Sony audio. Palm navigation/Sony jogdial. Etc. etc.
It is not fair to blame Sony for all these diversions -- many were in place before Palm introduced similar features in their OS5 offering. But Sony *is* guilty of non-disclosure. They keep many of their "extensions" locked up, realeasing none or vague/contradictory (see: CF) information. When developers do find a way to support a new Sony feature, it is often an in-house hack job. The result is developers reinventing the wheel for every application, and with varying degrees of success.
What's all this mean? That the PalmOS application development cycle has been hindered. This season's number one selling handheld was the Palm black/white standard ZIRE. But the real power users are the ones buying software en masse. Now the developer must produce a standard BW software version, while we expect the same software to work on black and white CLIE, N760C, NR70V, and NX60, m505, and Tungsten T. That's seven distinct platforms with varying screens, audio APIs (alarms, perhaps), and input characteristics (jog dial, navpad, VG, hardbutton arrangement).
Sony should facilitate the developer and community. Open the APIs, Sony, all of them. Otherwise run the risk of making the Palm platform a jumbled, proprietary mess.
mickmcdonald
02-15-2003, 12:36 PM
I'm keeping my vote in the palm camp. Palm, and CLIE in particular, do what I want from a handheld device. They're compact, light-weight and do a great variety of things for a relatively inexpensive computer. The huge number of programs available means we can all customize our CLIEs to do exactly what we want. I don't need to take my desktop PC with me, I just need to be mobile with all my info.
hansschmucker
02-15-2003, 01:21 PM
This is no real oppinion but just a reminder of technical facts: There are only two real ways of using the display a) Send form data to the OS and let it handle the output: This works the same for any Palm/Clie > OS 3.5 (Prior versions had less options for forms) or sending a picture to the gfx memory registers, which is no different in different versions of pos, but only with different res/depths, but it's quite easy to figure this out
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