NX + camera = webcam ?

[Pegass]

Hello,

I just caught a thought. If NX has a built-in camera and it is connected via USB why not use it as a webcam...
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any solution for this in Internet. Any ideas..?

Pegass

[pixelated]

:-)

[SteveIrwinFan]

I just had a thought...it was to mold something into a disk shape, turn it on its side, and use it to roll things from one place to another.  Has this been done? 
I am sorry, but I couldn't resist. 
There have been threads on this subject.  Nobody has done it yet, but there has been a lot of hope and talk.

[StPhun]

Been waiting for years for some real VideoPhones - will the Cliés be it? WiFi apparently has the bandwidth, all we need is the software. . .

[n2ifp]

First we need a CF driver:D!

[Guavazo]

Yes unless CF driver come out we can do little but nothing damn sony~ T_T

[chazzz]

Hmm... a $600 webcam. Uh, neat. :D

[reactor18]

Working on it. If it works you guys will be the first to know!

[CosmicBlend]

Originally posted by reactor18
Working on it. If it works you guys will be the first to know!

If its possible to work with wifi that would be sweet.

P.S if you need an ftp server to test the uploading of images for it let me know i will be more than happy to provide a fast one for testing.

[reactor18]

Thanx!

[little_Goomba]

I was going to begin writing a Televideo type application soon, and was going to write a post trolling for interest. Glad to see I can just ride the coattails of another developer! It's always easier to download software than write it.
I look forward to walking around the backyard on WiFi Webcam.

[CosmicBlend]

So what happend to the intrest on this webcam app? Is it still in development?

[milmber]

There is already a program that allows your nokia 7650 ( the camera phone ) to be used as a webcam. You put it down and it mails/sends pics at regular intervals. It only runs on the symbian os though....

[Pseudo Nim]

Originally posted by StPhun
Been waiting for years for some real VideoPhones - will the Cliés be it? WiFi apparently has the bandwidth, all we need is the software. . .

Japan has had them for about 2 years now. It's called FOMA, and it's realtime video through handsets just a bit larger than the **** phones that you get in North America. Also does Internet and live video streaming off the Net. :)

-pN

[Jeffry]

Doesn't the NZ have a USB port?

[CosmicBlend]

I would love to be able to have a webcam using the wifi card.. what happened to the development on the program..

[CosmicBlend]

any new updates on this?

[n2ifp]

Nope, haven't heard anything either:)

[dach95]

Any update?

[keesercc]

sigh. this would be nice. we have a CF driver now....

[iebnn]

It is not possible. Stop asking. Sony doesnt tell us developers how to control the camera with the NX or NZ.

[caipro]

not when Sony Ericsson have just just spent a ton of money on a new 3G phone (SE Z1010)..2 way video phone) that is the way is it going i am afraid.. but i for one will be on that band wagon when subscription charges come down.. :(

[lal2707]

Its a pity that Sony does not provide the info to allow an appl to control the built-in camera as a Webcam.

It would be great to be able to do it but I guess we will have to wait for some time to get One device that does everything you want!

Cheers

[StPhun]

Originally posted by lal2707
Its a pity that Sony does not provide the info to allow an appl to control the built-in camera as a Webcam.

It would be great to be able to do it but I guess we will have to wait for some time to get One device that does everything you want!

Cheers

I want my one device too but its the same old story

convergence = profit loss for Sony

planned obsolesence = profit increase for Sony

[samwireless]

man the nx70 as a webcam thats coool.. but if it can be a walkie talkie, now thats something really cooool! maybe they can do it using wifi?

[samwireless]

maybe make an fm radio receiver/transmiter flash card and using the clie as a radio/walkie talkie :)

[iebnn]

thats not going to happen.

[benixau]

Originally posted by StPhun


I want my one device too but its the same old story

convergence = profit loss for Sony

planned obsolesence = profit increase for Sony

which company does not do this. every company does it to get this thing called - continued income. in the buisness world of actually making money it is an important thing from what i hear.

[Eddy]

web cam, that'd be nice. but I'm quite contempt with what I've got with my current NX. Sorry but are we a little over our head here? 1st the CF driver, then this, what next? :D

[samwireless]

iebnn: you can just say it wont happen because it can happen...

why are people so closed minded about new things :/

[iebnn]

How can it happen? Please tell me, I'm very interested in hearing your solution to the lack of camera APIs. Sony won't tell developers how to use the camera -- but you appear to know a way?

This situation is identical to that of developing a new audio player for an OS5 Clie, because the same thing is missing for that - sound APIs. Seeing as you seem to know how it is possible to get around the problem of not having camera APIs, you should then be able to solve the problem for those who wrote AeroPlayer and Pocket Tunes? You know something none of us do?

How exactly am I being closed minded?

[RedSlug]

Originally posted by iebnn
How can it happen? Please tell me, I'm very interested in hearing your solution to the lack of camera APIs. Sony won't tell developers how to use the camera -- but you appear to know a way?

This situation is identical to that of developing a new audio player for an OS5 Clie, because the same thing is missing for that - sound APIs. Seeing as you seem to know how it is possible to get around the problem of not having camera APIs, you should then be able to solve the problem for those who wrote AeroPlayer and Pocket Tunes? You know something none of us do?

How exactly am I being closed minded?

Isn't the problem of a sound API no longer a problem since this:-

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13061&highlight=api

[iebnn]

If you'd actually read more than just the first few sentences, you'd see that, no, the problem is not solved. This was also a while ago that this information was released, you would have seen updates to aeroplayer etc by now.

[n2ifp]

Sony hasn't done anything, except the one time upgrade for the N710C and that was two years ago.

[keesercc]

are you so shortsighted as to believe sony will NEVER relase the API's? I'm just wondering here, because no one says that you can't still use your NX in two years becuase the newer flashier model came out. soon OS 5 and all it's *special* (sony) API's will either be cracked, leaked, or revealed. so stop all your pessimistic &#%^, and let the creative juices flow. NOW it might be tough but who knows what the future holds. I'm seeing some potential projects here.

[abosco]

It's been seven months now that the NX series has been released, and STILL there are no sound API leaks, releases, or cracks. Maybe you need to stop with your optimistic BS. We're so lucky we got a CF crack, and we're also lucky Sony used the standard OS 5 screen API instead of using their old Sony one. Asking for a Sony version of software may have been like asking for a Mac version of PC software. I'll be DAMNED if I have to go through that again.

My question still remains: What does Sony gain by not releasing these proprietary API's? I mean, the CF API, okay, I can understand Sony wanted to sell their Memory Sticks, but what about the camera? The sound? MPG? IR? Is Sony gaining anything after market from people only using the bundled Sony software? Hell no. So why are they sitting there with their thumb up their *** asking what the end-user wants when they can just come to ClieSource, read two threads, and fix everything that is wrong with it? By God I'll never understand Sony.

[Sicarius]

My question still remains: What does Sony gain by not releasing these proprietary API's? I mean, the CF API, okay, I can understand Sony wanted to sell their Memory Sticks, but what about the camera? The sound? MPG? IR?

I think the camera, sound and MPG APIs all come back to the memory stick. All three classes of application require a large amount of storage. If Sony assumed that a CF driver ever did become available (and it has) then not having a API for these applications would be a second line of defence as you would have the storage but would be unable to take advantage of it for those applications due to the proprietary way they access the memory stick.

That being said, with the current CF driver with MS masquerading, the point if moot and witholding the APIs does not make a great deal of sense any more.

I have no such explaination for the IR APIs.

[blinks]

do you guys think that i can use the IR as a garage door opener, cause hay, that would be sweeeeet.

[iebnn]

Sony is doing this partly I think to promote the use of ATRAC.

The NX is still usable 2 years later, but sony won't care about it anymore. There's no way they're going to write up documentation and release an SDK for the sound APIs 2 years after they stop making a device. And developers aren't going to spend a huge amount of time to "crack" the sound API for a device 2 years old. The CF driver was made because there is a considerably large market for it. Also remember that the sound API isnt something the average user has ANY use for. It's only useful for developers. So if a developer wants to include this "cracked" sound API in their commercial app, I bet sony's gonna be all over them about it. And no one's gonna write a huge new audio player/movie player and release it for free and without giving themselves credit for making it.

I'm sure Sony has a reason for withholding these APIs. It might not be a reason we like, but sony isn't a company that makes huge stupid, money-losing decisions repeatedly with each device they release (NX, TG, NZ, etc). There is a reason, we just obviously dont know what it is.

[fix.bornes]

What I would really like is to be able to record video in 320*200 or even 640*480.
Event the NR's can do better than the NX if I understood well an older post on the subject !!! :confused: :confused: :mad:

So plz Sony : RELEASE THOSE APIs :D

[nlode]

The lack of the IR API is very frustrating, I really wanted to be able to use OmniRemote as a learning remote.

[iebnn]

The NR could only record at such resolutions if it saved to RAM because writing to a memory stick is too slow (iirc). This meant you could only have a tiny bit of video.

[samwireless]

iebnn: ehem i think there seems to be a missunderstanding.. i was talking about an fm radio transmiter / receiever via flash card i think your talking about the lack of API cameras... when you said "thats not going to happen" i thought you meant that the comment i made isnt going to happen.. i guess its all a big missunderstanding.

[iebnn]

Yes sorry, my longer reply message was a misunderstanding. I forgot you were tlaking about using the NX as walkie talkies and such.

Unless there's already a CF card that does what you want, don't get your hopes up. And if Eruware says they're not going to make any other CF drivers, then it's definitely not going to happen (Im not sure of what they've said though).