OS6 - Whats the deal with that?

[General Gao]

Seriously, how is os6 supposed to be any better than os5? What else could a clie do?

[KongK]

Hi General,

Checkout this URL (http://www.brighthand.com/article/PalmOS6_Coming_Dec_29).

Seriously, I wish PalmOS 6 has native video playing capabilities...

[Spiral]

Supposedly allows multi-tasking, toolbar like the T3, native ARM applications.

Models with it should be out by spring.

[orol]

multitasking is the only thing I'm actually interested in.

[bdhu2001]

I'm interested in the multi-tasking, but I've also heard that some of the Pocket PCs freeze when attempting this. I don't want to have to reset all the time.

[General Gao]

Wow that is impressive - multitasking is like a step close to being like windows - without being windows! {and windows is just like horrible blue screen of death bad horrible}

[fengwei007]

Originally posted by General Gao
...{and windows is just like horrible blue screen of death bad horrible}

That's older Windows I think you were talking about. The curernt Windows (Both desktop and PPC) are quite stable, I haven't seen any Windows BLUE SCREEN for quite a long time (several years ?!).

[cbulock]

Originally posted by fengwei007


That's older Windows I think you were talking about. The curernt Windows (Both desktop and PPC) are quite stable, I haven't seen any Windows BLUE SCREEN for quite a long time (several years ?!).
I have a feeling Windows bashers will still be trying to use that for a long time. :rolleyes:

Another feature that I will be looking forward to is a standardize wireless model. Supposedly there will be tons of support for WiFi, Bluetooth and GPRS. So hopefully we will see some models that really show off what wireless is capable of. (With tons of third-party apps able to support the features too.)

[ScottLP]

I'm sure OS 6 will be nifty, but I wonder, of the people who use palm OS devices for how many will multitasking really make any difference (I'm not one)?


Windows bashers can now ask the number of days since the last reported security vulnerability(s), or marvel at the fixes:

http://www.ttgnet.com/daynotes/2003/2003-45.html

For years, the conventional wisdom has been that one can't trust Microsoft software until version 3.0, and that apparently is true for their security patches as well.

The middle of last month, with much fanfare, Microsoft went to their new scheme of releasing patches in batches once a month. A week or so later, they released batches of patches to those batches of patches. Now, they're releasing batches of patches to the batches of patches to the batches of patches.

[X Destruction]

Speaking of blue screen of death, I've had about 4 of em today. 2 of those times I had to reset. The other two it was leading to a reset because the computer was going sluggish and doing illegal errors all the time. I don't have a virus, or spyware or anything, all I've got is windows me, and I've had 6 resets today, 4 because of the blue screen of death. Don't say it's gone, because it will live on forever!!! Funny thing is, windows me was made in 2000, one year before the latest os, XP, came out. Another funny thing is, I bought my computer I'm on now a month before XP came out. Heck, if I'm gonna dish out $150 for windows xp and less instability, I'll just go off and buy a new computer.

To reiterate, I have seen a blue screen of death hours ago, not years ago.

[Importluva]

Isn't OS6 going to be geared towards wireless protocols? Like bt, wifi, and cell phone stuff like gprs and the like? Also I heard that they were working on it so that one could seamlessly transfer from one to the otehr.

[Edlin]

Not being able to multi-task annoys me. A lot!
I hope OS6 perfoms well in that reagrd... will be hard for Palm as I`m sure its going to be a very critical audeince

[cbulock]

Originally posted by X Destruction
I don't have a virus, or spyware or anything, all I've got is windows me
That really made me laugh. I think a virus in XP is less damaging than a virus-free ME. You are still running an updated version of software created in 1981. That's why you have constant blue screens. XP has eliminated all that. (Okay, I've had one blue screen in XP, once a digital camera malfunctioned during transfering pics and I had some USB error).

[ashVID]

I use PC and Mac, OSX and XP Pro, high end apps (video, photshop, premiere, etc.) and I get the same performance with each. One crash every several hundred hours of use. If you restart daily you should rarely have an issue. It is a myth that OSX is more stable than XP however, it is much more secure and streamlined, no need for Dll files, etc.



ash =o)

[spork27]

Well XP is basically just a pretty version of 2000. I run 2000 professional and get a blue screen about once a month. Blue screens really aren't gone.

[X Destruction]

Seriously guys, not everyone is using XP, because everything ME and down is going to be pretty unstable and windoze-ish :p

[Gorto]

Yeap, yeap, XP eliminated the famous blue screen of death. They did it by just resetting your PC without giving you a chance to know what the hell happened and no blue screen.

[Unregistered]

" It is a myth that OSX is more stable than XP however, it is much more secure and streamlined, no need for Dll files, etc. "

Depends on your experiance I guess. My tiBook hasn't crashed ever that i can recall with OSX. And thats with dozens of opening the lid for sleeps/wakes a day. I run a whole MIDI setup, so its not exactly light use either. On the other hand, I have my wifes brand new HP 2gz XP laptop with is lucky to wake from sleep 9 out of 10 times before crashing.

[tprime76]

Aren't we getting a little off topic? It won't be long before it is an all out flame war between Mac and WinTel users. Sooner or later I am sure ot OpenSource users will have to ring in and this thread will be pointless.

As far as OS6 goes, it was mentioned above that someone hopes that PalmOS 6 will be designed so that 3rd parties can write many wireless apps that can be used on it. Doesn't OS5 already allow this? It would be SONY that doesn't allow 3rd parties to write against their APIs. I for one am pretty excited about this. Any major improvements (and this is being trumpeted as a major upgrade) is good for our hobby.

[cbulock]

Originally posted by tprime76
As far as OS6 goes, it was mentioned above that someone hopes that PalmOS 6 will be designed so that 3rd parties can write many wireless apps that can be used on it. Doesn't OS5 already allow this? It would be SONY that doesn't allow 3rd parties to write against their APIs. I for one am pretty excited about this. Any major improvements (and this is being trumpeted as a major upgrade) is good for our hobby.
Sony hasn't given out their API, but other companies have. So third parties can create apps, but right now there is no standard API that the OS uses. OS6 will have it all standardized.

[General Gao]

Sony, regardless of their high qaulity pda's, has always seemed to me to be the most greedy and selfish of the other pda marketers out there. Off the top of my head they never update os unless there was some serious issue with it, and they really dont like anything but memory stick. The NX series was an exception but even then they limited it to that only memory stick could play movies and mp3s {Without 3rd party progs of course.}

[_me]

for straight people using windows xp funny video about mac.
http://squidly.com/mac.wmv

[Dropzone]

win xp is pretty stable for me. but it can go sluggish at times. and for some reason (i am not sure is it due to HDD problem or the winxp) i get physical memory dump. this result in a reset for me and info loss..

[Rick 098]

Originally posted by fengwei007


That's older Windows I think you were talking about. The curernt Windows (Both desktop and PPC) are quite stable, I haven't seen any Windows BLUE SCREEN for quite a long time (several years ?!).

I use winblows XP, and Mandrake Linux.
True, I have not seen the blue screen on XP, just complete lockups needing a forced shutdown.
No probs with Mandrake.

[rcxAsh]

Originally posted by tprime76
Sooner or later I am sure ot OpenSource users will have to ring in and this thread will be pointless.
Heh heh, you read my mind. I run a multiboot with Win98 and Gentoo GNU/Linux (http://www.gentoo.org). Need I say more...? What a world of difference between the two.. you know, Linux runs smooth and fast, and even if something does crash, it doesn't affect anything else like I notice Windows does. One crash often slows down the whole system even after the program closed...
Originally posted by Rick 098

No probs with Mandrake.
Oh yeah man :D

Anyways, back to OS6. I've been using OS4 for about a year now. I've been planning on upgrading to an OS5 device (current prospect is the TG50). What are your thoughts on this? The price of the TG50 has really come down now, and I figured that there are always going to be new devices, and hey, the TG50 is a lot cheaper than it used to be, and it's still a nice handheld. OS6 is definately going to be nicer than OS5, though, even if I did wait, I'm worried that I wouldn't be able to afford the new device. And anyways, I've been running Windows98 since... a long time. I've always been behind, so I guess it won't be anything new.

And I don't see the beauty of multi tasking under such a small screen yet. I suppose I could understand that if I were browsing the net with the TG50's NetFront for information for a report I was writing in DocsToGo it could be useful, but I don't see myself doing this everyday... or even at all for that matter. What kind of applications would you commonly multitask with?

By the way, what was the first OS5 device released, and how much was it?

[cbulock]

I think the big things would be able to run background apps properly like instant messengers and e-mail clients. Plus, it would also be nice while the browser was downloading a file, I could check my contacts. Stuff like that.

As for the first OS5 device, the NX60, NX70V and Tungsten T all came out at the same time. Prices were $500 for the NX60 and T|T and $600 for the NX70V.

[jjrodriguezmartin]

Do Someone know if this new OS 6 is real? It should be available since December, 29th.

[jjrodriguez]

Do someone know if this new OS 6 is real? I heart comments about it was cancelled. I should be available since last december, 29.

Happy Christmas to everybody!

[Hrun]

Yup it is real

I believe it was being made available to developers from 29th dec 2003 and should be available in PDas in the spring

Giles

[meyersb]

I can only say that I currently run Windows XP Professional at home, work, and the college where I teach. I have been a computer networking engineer for 20 years with experience in Mciro$oft, Novell, Unix, Linux, and OS/400. The fact is that Windows DOES still crash frequently ... they just mask it by automatically rebooting the workstation. I like to call this feature Microsoft's Proactive System Refresh. My machines crash probably twice a day when multiple application windows are running.

When you add security holes that are still exploited after SP2, it becomes evident that the only method to have a stable operating system is to leave the Redmond beasts behind you. Linux is already more stable and secure than Micro$oft could ever make a current operating system. I actually feel a little sorry for the situation that Redmond is in. Their operating system was created (or stolen from Apple) back before there were networks or Internet access concerns. Their problems can not be fixed without a complete re-write of the code (which would make almost all software incompatible with it). They don't realistically have the option to fix their problems any longer.

We have arrived at a day where your PDA is also at risk for virus and spyware to hijack it. WiFi and Bluetooth can both be used to exploit your system. PDA's accessing e-mail and browsing the Internet are as vulnerable as your desktop machine. There are currently few exploits written for PDA's but that will change with the numbers steadily increasing. Do you REALLY want to trust your PDA's fate in the hands of a firm that has proven that they can't even keep your PC safe (when they created that industry from scratch).

I spend most of my day knowing that I will be running Linux on the desktop by the end of the year, Open Office, Mozilla Firefox, and many other Open Source offerings that are cheaper and more effective solutions that what Redmond can offer. Can I offer my PDA anything less?

[cbulock]

Must be some faulty software that you are running. I have been running Windows XP since the first beta version, and while the betas had a couple crashes here and there, I have only had XP crash maybe three times in the last three years