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ImBatman
11-14-2003, 03:05 PM
I got an product e-mail from Palmgear with this new product (maybe its been around), maybe not so new, on a new CF driver f0r the NZ and other handheld device that has a CF drive and can't use it. I heard about "Euroware", but I also know it still has lots of bugs to work out. Reading about Magic CF 2.0 I thought this could be better then Eroware.
If anyone one out there use's Magic CF please let me know how it takes.

kmroddy
11-14-2003, 06:35 PM
I just received the same email from Palm Gear. It seems too good to be true. Is it?

cliekid
11-15-2003, 12:27 AM
Hmmm... sounds really good but I am low on money so I think I will stick with the NX80 CF Drivers on my NX70V. There are some issues with what I am doing, but I can still listen to music and play games off my CF so its good enough for me for now.

crabini
11-15-2003, 03:24 AM
I got it and it was a waste of money the "Euroware" or "Athena" as they are called now, it as well cannot do as well as the one I am using, "Peleca's" and it works the best and its free!,

thott
11-15-2003, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by crabini
I got it and it was a waste of money the "Euroware" or "Athena" as they are called now, it as well cannot do as well as the one I am using, "Peleca's" and it works the best and its free!,

Hi!
....agree!
Do not waste your money. I think the CFMagic is at a very early beta version.
It didn´t work at all with my NZ90 and differenz FlashCards.
Read the PDAscent Forum..and you will see what problems the people has with this program.
I made a mistake. I didn´t study this formum before. Otherwise I never would bought this porgram.

I use also the Athena CF-Driver and it´s ok for me well.
The Peleca´s driver I do not know....anybody can tell me the URL for downloading?

Have a nice day...
Bye..
thott, Germany

cliener
11-15-2003, 09:02 AM
There is a forum page www.PDAscent.com that you can post and ask questions before as well as after you purchase the product. There is a sticky for the NZ90 users addressing problems that are unique to the NZ90. If you ever read any of the other threads in cf on Cliesource you would see that there are 3 selections so far out there. The Eurdriver and the PDAscent driver were written by the same person. The other drivers are "hacked" or greyarea drivers. Considering the number of places this PDAscent driver has been (looking at their announcements page) they either have only a few sales or lots of sales and only a few problems. All 3 selections have problems. If you aren't a beginner then following the hacked drivers and running around trying to get them to work may be your answer. There is also a post about whether ATAM is still around. They aren't answering quiries accordind to that post. The other is asking if PDAScent is still around. Posted by me. That is asking about service, turnaround time on answers etc. I guess you would actually have to do a search for the product name to find it. Not look on Cliesource. Cliesource seems to promote the hacks more than anything else. So you can go from there. Cheers!

ImBatMan
11-17-2003, 10:53 PM
Yeah I bought into the CF Magic 2.0 after reading on Palmgear.com how "Wonderful" it was. What a JOKE!!! After going through everthing, my NZ90 crashed everytime I used it. I had to delete CF Magic and hard reset my handheld. The thing that gets me is how easy they make it sound on Palmgear. For all of you thinking of getting it, DONT its a waste of your MONEY!!!
I hate the way Sony play's with you offering a CF drive only for a Wifi card. What a waste on there part.

cliener
11-18-2003, 08:39 AM
Imbatman, obviously you didn't read about the NZ90 when you bought it as well as not reading everything about the CF Magic. You and Crabini should get together and go bowling or something. There are lots of people out there (people that actually know what they are doing) that have bought the CF Magic and really like it. But hey, if you like the AA driver, great (you might want to read the complaints about them not answering their emails) or Pelacas driver. Considering that the CF Magic is written for beginners I am really hoping you guys will be able to wade through the downloads to get what you want out of your clies. Do yourselves a favor and READ before you buy. You will save yourselves a lot of time and money.

P.S. Are you really Batman?

thott
11-18-2003, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by cliener
......I am really hoping you guys will be able to wade through the downloads to get what you want out of your clies. Do yourselves a favor and READ before you buy. You will save yourselves a lot of time and money.


Hi cliener,

first of all, I´m very happy that some programmers wrote a CF-card driver. Thank´s to them all!

All what you can read about CF-Magic are quite good reviews.
But frankly spoken, the describtion didn´t tell you anything about incompatibilities and/or difficulties of NZ90 or CF-Cards.

Only in the program-forum you could find described problems.
My fault....I read it to late.

You also couldn´t give it a try (as a lot of other programms do) to check if it is ok with your used device , software and CF-card

You have to buy it...to see how it works.

I´m realy not a beginner, but I don´t get it running with different cards ( I even bought a new CF-Card), ´hard-resets´ and othe trials at my NZ90.
Configuration mistakes ?
Due to less configuration options in CF-Magic , you can not realy make mistakes ín wrong configurations.
I´m quite satisfied with the Athena driver, but as I read the possiblilites of the CF-Magic I bought it.
And with simple words: it doesn´t work with my NZ90 and that is realy dissapointed.
Call my stupid...ok. But what possibilities do you have to get it run ?

- Use different cards
- check slow action to card at the CF-Magic menue
- Install the MS Pro Patch
- Use the NZ90 with original installations
- Do hard resets
- ...and what else?

I did it all and even more.....but it do not work at my stupid hands :-(

Bye.....have a nice day!
thott, Germany

cliener
11-18-2003, 10:22 AM
Gee guys, you know others can read your complaints on the PDAscent board? Crabini, you want something that works with microdrives. It is posted that this product doesn't work with microdrives. I don't see a IMBATMAN on there but there is a thread about the NZ90. There are also threads here about the NZ90. As I recall, even the Eru driver had problems with the NZ90. I would suggest you go with what works for you.

cliener
11-18-2003, 11:13 AM
Yeah, I understand your explanation perfectly thott. But the NZ90 has problems anyway. I don't really know if this is correct but I read something about Sony and the drivers weren't the same for the NZ90 as the other models. I know the drivers Sony released are really limited on the apps they work with. That is what Pelacas drivers are from. Hacking the Sony ones. That may be the only alternative to your dilemma. I have been on Cliesource (off and on) since the whole cf driver thing broke. I know the guy that wrote the Eruware driver is the same guy that wrote the PDAscent driver. They both have had problems with the NZ90 though.
Crabinis problem is that he wants something that works with microdrives. He didn't read that the CF Magic doesn't work with microdrives but bought it anyway. Yet he complains that it is a bad product. It isn't, but it may not be for everyone.

crabini
11-18-2003, 01:35 PM
When I originally purchased it I did not have the Microdrive that came later, I had a simpletech 512mb cf card and many hard resets later got it to work intermittingly with cf magic driver, and I went back to the hacked driver of which works, but I have to do a soft reset when in dual card use (both cf & ms in) which is a pain but tolerable, just wanted something better.
When I got the Microdrive it would work great no problem at all with the hacked drivers,
I have 62hours of mp3's, 2hrs22mins of DVD quality movies, games galore and about 100 ebooks (novels, reference books, papers) and other programs with 1.12gb left to spare!!
It can get better if I had cf drivers that I did not have to soft-reset and remove cards for different functions.

cliener
11-18-2003, 01:48 PM
Unfortunately there isn't a universal driver. The sony drivers don't work with all the apps either. The 3rd party drivers don't either. I sort of blame Sony for this. They should have released all the drivers a long time ago. The few that they did I personally think was because 3rd party drivers were written. I am hoping, this is probably a wild dream, that with the new clies they will either release more drivers or coordinate new apps to work with the new clies.

ImBatMan
11-22-2003, 03:28 AM
To Cliner,
Wow cliener how much does CF Magic pay you to stick up for them? I see you all over defending CF Magic like a watch dog on duty. Please enough with the propaganda Magic CF 2.0 sucks and would be misleading users to say otherwise.

ImBatMan
11-22-2003, 03:29 AM
Oh yeah, I am BATMAN

ImBatMan
11-22-2003, 03:37 AM
*******CF Magic 2.0****** Support page
***See for yourself why they suck*******

Sticky: CF Magic issue on NZ 90
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3 Jim Brown 77 Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:51 pm
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14 lsbphd 152 Fri Nov 21, 2003 7:41 pm
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Support
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Magictor 2.4GB Microdrive card.
3 95gtconvt 76 Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:20 am
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2 bakardipa 35 Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:10 pm
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Lost my Palm Bible!
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1 manfredw 41 Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:21 am
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using MX Import
1 manfredw 38 Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:58 pm
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0 PDAscent 34 Fri Nov 14, 2003 10:12 pm
PDAscent
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1 qsign 36 Fri Nov 14, 2003 1:32 pm
Support
Bought CFMagic Version 2.0, got 1.0
11 thott 120 Thu Nov 13, 2003 8:27 am
Support
Trying to play MP3 in Audio Player on NX60
7 MoRE 132 Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:37 am
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3 cclarke4 134 Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:18 pm
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4 wind52surfer 48 Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:37 pm
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3 wind52surfer 63 Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:25 pm
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1 JaxMac 100 Tue Oct 28, 2003 7:34 am
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Questions about playing MP3s and Atract music file format
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Moved: problem about upgrade
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6 flatspin

cliener
11-22-2003, 06:53 PM
Hi IMbatman, are you the original or one of the many newer versions? They aren't paying me anything. However, I have used the product and am quite happy with it. I have also been around since the original Eruware version came out. I don't have a problem with anyone. Or with something "hacked" which is what the sony ones are but I don't bash anyone else's argument without verifiable backup.
Btw, if you were really batman you could afford (and would have the brains)to write your own driver.
Sorry for the jab, I am a big Batman fan but don't hold much favor for substitutes.

cliener
11-22-2003, 06:59 PM
Gee, Imbatman, I bet you
1 Either work for PDAscent competition or
2 promote warez sites
Either way it really doesn't matter to me. I stick up for everything I like. If you have a personal problem with me then perhaps you should turn your energy to more inciteful reading. You don't seem to cite any of the good reviews that were posted on the cite. No matter, I will say a prayer for you and hope you don't implode from whatever problems you are having. Have a good one.

rocketclie
11-22-2003, 07:09 PM
To date this has to be the worst post I've seen. It's a SUPPORT page...what do you expect people to post there other than problems? Did you bother to read past the titles? They have almost all been resolved. Also the support is VERY responsive. If you look in the General Discussion you will see a very positive post about the driver. If you were to do the same idiotic thing with the CF forum here on ClieSource you could come to the same idiotic conclusion about the hacked drivers. I'm not saying the PDAscent drivers are the greatest thing since sliced bread...just that this type of analysis is like looking through the cars sitting in the repair lot and claiming that all cars of that make and model suck. BTW...where's the Athena America support page so we can compare the issues (oh yeah...there isn't one...I have an idea let's make companies afraid to have public forums for discussion so we end up less informed).
Originally posted by ImBatMan
*******CF Magic 2.0****** Support page
***See for yourself why they suck*******

ImBatMan
11-22-2003, 08:14 PM
HAHAHAHAH, WHAT A GEEK!!! “if you were really batman you could afford (and would have the brains)to write your own driver”. Was that a Joke!!! Stick with your day Job, and please, please get a life. With “321” posts under your belt you leave little time for your significant other, maybe she’s saying a prayer for you to “GET A LIFE” hahahahaha, I can’t see how people can defend or get so worked up over a crappy software program. Maybe if I were a GEEK I would see your perspective, but I have a life. Oh yeah and save your silly jokes for your local comedy club, and drama for your momma.

cliener
11-22-2003, 08:20 PM
Soooo angry, perhaps you should save your money for therapy. Btw Im(wanna be)batman. I am a girl. I think you need to do more waves and less sand...catch my drift? I think maybe you have a crush on me or something. I don't see anyone else attracting your silly posts. If you cruised the OT on cliesource you would see that I am there a lot too. Oh, maybe I shouldn't have told you that cause then you would have to put down the other people due to the number of posts they have. Maybe everyone else should get a life? heheheh you are a funny one.

rocketclie
11-22-2003, 08:48 PM
You two (Cliener and ImBatMan) seem to have some personal vendeta against each other but I have to take issue with the "crappy software" comment. If it were't for 3rd party drivers there would be NO CF drivers for the Clie. Also I use CF Magic all the time and find it to be pretty good software with above average support and deveopers that are open and honest about the issues with the software.

Originally posted by ImBatMan
HAHAHAHAH, WHAT A GEEK!!! “if you were really batman you could afford (and would have the brains)to write your own driver”. Was that a Joke!!! Stick with your day Job, and please, please get a life. With “321” posts under your belt you leave little time for your significant other, maybe she’s saying a prayer for you to “GET A LIFE” hahahahaha, I can’t see how people can defend or get so worked up over a crappy software program. Maybe if I were a GEEK I would see your perspective, but I have a life. Oh yeah and save your silly jokes for your local comedy club, and drama for your momma.

crabini
11-23-2003, 01:28 AM
cliener why did you pick on me? I did not say anything bad about you, I just stated I was not happy with this paticular cf driver and the "why's" about it

crabini
11-23-2003, 01:31 AM
Any one use's "Magic CF 2.0"?
It did not meet my needs of a CF driver and the hacked version allows me to have better access to the CF i/o.

Roni
11-23-2003, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by ImBatMan
To Cliner,
Wow cliener how much does CF Magic pay you to stick up for them? I see you all over defending CF Magic like a watch dog on duty. Please enough with the propaganda Magic CF 2.0 sucks and would be misleading users to say otherwise.


So, if you are experiencing troubles that other's don't, it sucks anyway and shouldn't be used? :rolleyes:

cliener
11-23-2003, 09:55 AM
Hey Crabini, sorry I didn't mean to pick on you. Saying you and Imbatman should go bowling was wrong. I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy (pair them up with him). The other stuff I am only stating what I can back up. According to the posts on the PDAscent forum you wanted something to work with microdrives. Later I stated that if you found something that works for you great.
I don't mind debating but I like to back up my statements with stuff that I have( and others )read.
Again, if you found a solution to your problem great, I am happy you can get your moneysworth out of your clie. I still think Sony should have done this from the beginning, but we all know how that one went.
I don't really think IMbatman is upset about the driver I happen to like. I think they are taking a personal focus on me. Why else would they go to so much trouble to only cite the complaints but not the solutions posted?
Why else would they skip over (don't remember the other posters name sorry) to call me a geek?
Not that being a geek is something bad but they seem to like to rant. I am happy with my number of posts (although I fail to see what that has to do with anything but they brought it up I didn't). My number of posts pales in comparison to some of the others here though.
I feel bad for them though. I have met a lot of really nice people here on Cliesource (just recently they made over 30,000 members).
Lastly, I think I probably know this person in reality (probably through a lost friend) and they feel the need to vent at me because of their own misfortune. I hope they get their problems worked out but I won't be seeking them out to help and trust me on this one. It is better that way.

LaStigmata
11-23-2003, 04:50 PM
I thought I was Batman?

ImBatMan
11-25-2003, 12:39 AM
Cliener,

Therapy huh? Hmmm what kind? Now that I know you’re a “GIRL” maybe I do have a “Crush” so you call it, in a weird freaky kind of way. Oh yeah, what did you mean by “More waves less sand” about? I know I live in paradise, maybe if I changed my name to Hawaii50 or something it would sit better with the natural surroundings here. Oh yeah, I am a fake Batman last I checked so you don’t have to bring that up all the time. The plan fact about CF Magic is that it still has lots of bugs to work out. And please for all of you who use and preformed movie, music and photos via CF magic the more power to yeah. I just wish CF Magic not broadcast on Palmgear what a magnificent, flawless and user-friendly CF Magic 2.0 is, because its not. To Cliener one last time, I’m not trying to single you out of the crowed. I know you love to defend your views on things and so do I. So let’s squash any hard feelings and get back to work!!!

cliener
11-25-2003, 11:56 AM
LaStigmata, I like your avatar! You got my vote as Batman.

ImBatMan
11-25-2003, 10:33 PM
Good to see you again Cliener...I thought I would never see you agin.