1src Forums - Pateince: Yes or No

ArK

02-10-2003, 02:31 PM

Basically the situation is this... After talking to the online retailers Sony will be sending theres out first on the 20th and all the other companies will be getting theres after. So for most websites we are looking at the end of the month before we get our ahnds on the NZ. What I want to know is should you pay more to get it from sony sooner, or wait and pay less. The differnce in the soem case being more then $100.

LITTLESIX

02-10-2003, 03:50 PM

Originally posted by ArK
Basically the situation is this... After talking to the online retailers Sony will be sending theres out first on the 20th and all the other companies will be getting theres after. So for most websites we are looking at the end of the month before we get our ahnds on the NZ. What I want to know is should you pay more to get it from sony sooner, or wait and pay less. The differnce in the soem case being more then $100.

Think you need another option or two, Ark:

NOT getting it from Sony - not going to pay more.
NOT getting it from Sony - probably do a brick and mortar, still pay the same price, will NO doubt get a better return policy than Sony could ever hope for in their wildest dreams, AND get my need for instant gratification catered to.

Not that I have a problem with ordering from Sony or anything :rolleyes:

While that 100 dollar savings is currently talking to me bigtime, I've whittled the field down to two choices: Either getting it from techonweb.com or going brick and mortar and getting it at CC. They've yet to steer me wrong.

PhilB

02-10-2003, 04:06 PM

Have to go with Little Six on this one. I, too, am severely allergic to ordering from Sony. Will probably go with either CC or CUSA and pay the same price, but with a better return and get it in my hot little hands the same day.

eric2002

02-10-2003, 04:08 PM

I'll be getting it online (right now my choice is "techonweb"). I've waited for a few weeks already...what's 2 more weeks? Gosh this is the longest I've been w/o a PDA though... I sold my old PDA as soon as I heard about the NZ90.

ArK

02-10-2003, 04:25 PM

well I allready preordered from datavis.com but I'm waiting to see who has it first. I can always cancel my order. I am really hurting not having a clie but THe price difference is too great to make me go buy it at a brick and mortar.

pdagal

02-10-2003, 05:36 PM

What about Amazon? They're still listing it as arriving at their warehouse on the 16th, with an estimated arrival date of Feb. 18th or 19th via next day air. Thier $50 rebate for Feb. is sweet too. Have you spoken with them?

LITTLESIX

02-10-2003, 05:44 PM

I haven't looked at them for a bit. For myself, I discounted them because some of the other vendors are flat out offering a lower price without any rebate issues at all.

They're solid (obviously) - they just didn't work for me on a personal level.

Token User

02-10-2003, 06:07 PM

I thought about both ... then discounted doing either.

I had a chance to hold and play with a NZ-90 last week (Sony Building - Ginza, Japan). From a pure geek value, this is just about perfect, but in reality ... IMHO it is no longer a PDA.

Before going out and dropping $800 on one, I would STRONGLY suggest that you go have a play with one in a B&M first. While it is the same form factor as a NV/NX, it is larger in all dimensions, and heavier. It won't fit in a pocket anymore (unless you can get away with cargo pants at work). The cradle is very cool, but the flap over the hotsync port is just itching to break off (its a rubber flap).

Sorry. I hate bashing a product. Having this would make you the envy of everyone you know ... but I can start hearing the comments now "Is that a Clie in your pocket or are you just happy to see me" :)

The $300 I save by buying a NX70V will more than compensate for the lower resolution camera (hay, for $300, I could buy a half decent megapixel camera :D).

ArK

02-10-2003, 06:17 PM

yes we've all heard that debate b4 about buyinga camera for the price. If thats what you want to do then do it and stop telling us. Anyway yes amazon does have a rebate but it still dosen't drop it to the prices of some other sites and its mir so you must shell out all the money up front. I have also been talking around and no matter what the site says you will get it from sony first.

yOyOYoo

02-10-2003, 06:51 PM

ArK, are you sure you are guaranteed getting the NZ90 from sony first? From past experience, the N710, 760, NR, NX haven't they all arrived at Fry's Electronics and Best Buys way before Sony started shipping them?

Token User

02-10-2003, 07:22 PM

Originally posted by ArK
yes we've all heard that debate b4 about buyinga camera for the price. If thats what you want to do then do it and stop telling us. :D == Big grin ... tongue in cheek.

All I am saying is for this device, definately TRY BEFORE YOU BUY. Hands up everyone in here who has tried out the NZ90. Hmmm, awfully quiet.

All other devices are about the same in terms of size, feel, etc., or comparable to other devices. But this one is different. As I suggested, try one out in a B&M first. Then, if you think this is the right device for you, go out and get the best deal online. Before going into the store, I thought it WAS the right device for me, but after trying it out, I admit its not right for me.

Ark - this is not bashing, just some advice. Personal opinion, YVMV and probably will.

kkerruish

02-10-2003, 07:23 PM

All -

I remember when the NR70Vs came out, and everyone was going to order from Dell...and Dell's ship date fell through time and again...

Every indication I have is that the devices are shipping on the 14th, and from there they are likely to arrive anytime from then on.

Of course Sony won't ship to known discount outlets prior to themselves...as it cuts down on their sales revenue...but they would be hurting themselves in the long run if they didn't play fair with their largest resellers - whose sale volumes always exceed the discount houses. Circuit City, Best Buy, Frys, Ultimate Electronics, CDW, etc - those places will have them the same time Sony starts to ship - it's almost guaranteed.

Of course, you're going to pay full retail...which I'm likely to do simply because my T|T is sold pending arrival of the Clie, and I can't afford for Palm to make a nother price cut!!! (Already lost 50$ on the sale because of them dropping the price from 500 to 400.

Wait, or don't wait...just don't whine...:)

ArK

02-10-2003, 08:20 PM

From everyone I've talekd to thats distributing them sony will be sending them first. I mean I hope this isn't the case but it looks like it is. As to token it nothing personal. I'm just sick of hearing the same thing over and over and over again. If it was jsut an improvement in the camera the argument might have some validity but since there are other major upgrades there is none. A bt ms by itself pays for the upgrade not to mention the camera, cradle, and battery.

Spiral

02-10-2003, 08:35 PM

I've heard that sony tends to stock retailors before shipping their own, so if you order from sony you might end up with it even later that the other methods, and spend more money

LITTLESIX

02-10-2003, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by ArK
I'm just sick of hearing the same thing over and over and over again.

Amen. Just when you get rid of one flock of seagulls....

*checks the horse for a pulse - nope it's dead. Been dead. Very dead*

:rolleyes:

With all these "concerned souls" cautioning me on how I spend my money on PDA's, it's just a miracle of nature that I've managed to get through the last few years without the benefit of their boundless wisdom. Somebody call Ripleys.

double :rolleyes:

birick

02-10-2003, 08:47 PM

Token User-

I know what you mean...I was warming up my credit card to order the NZ, then I got to spend a little one on one time with an NZ in Japan and it changed my mind. I, however, wasn't brave enough to offer my opinion here because that tends to upset folks.

LITTLESIX

02-10-2003, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Token User
I thought about both ... then discounted doing either.

I had a chance to hold and play with a NZ-90 last week (Sony Building - Ginza, Japan). From a pure geek value, this is just about perfect, but in reality ... IMHO it is no longer a PDA.

....sigh

Originally posted by Token User
It won't fit in a pocket anymore (unless you can get away with cargo pants at work).

What a fascinating and totally bizarre concept. I would no more think of cramming a PDA in my pocket anymore than I would putting a tutu on my dog. And IMHO if you do, you shouldn't be surprised when it's broken.

Originally posted by Token User
The $300 I save by buying a NX70V will more than compensate for the lower resolution camera (hay, for $300, I could buy a half decent megapixel camera :D).

And thank you for sharing that argument. It is, without a doubt, the first time we've ever heard it.

Today. :rolleyes:

LITTLESIX

02-10-2003, 08:55 PM

oneeyesquare

02-10-2003, 09:16 PM

I have an NX and a Sony DSC-p51. I'm pretty sure they won't fit in my pocket either!!! And final price? $850 plus tax. The ONLY time I carry my NX in my pocket is in transit to my favorite chair, beverage/plate in hands.... To freakin' expensive to accidentally sit on it....

ARK!!!!, I before E, except after C, or when sounded as A as in "neighbor or weigh!!!!

Token User

02-10-2003, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by birick
Token User-

I know what you mean...I was warming up my credit card to order the NZ, then I got to spend a little one on one time with an NZ in Japan and it changed my mind. I, however, wasn't brave enough to offer my opinion here because that tends to upset folks. So I've noticed. Defensive bunch, lucky I have a thick skin :D

So, as someone else that has seen and held one. What is your opinion? Try before you buy?? All I am saying is caveat emptor ...

Originally posted by LITTLESIX
With all these "concerned souls" cautioning me on how I spend my money on PDA's, it's just a miracle of nature that I've managed to get through the last few years without the benefit of their boundless wisdom. Somebody call Ripleys. You have read the posts. You missed the "I really wanted to buy one" comment. I can rattle off the advantages and disadvantages of the NZ90. I could sit down and do a formal decision analysis, a cost benefit analysis, and consult the magic 8 ball. It sounds like anyone with an opinion other than "this will be the latest coming of the messiah" had better watch out. The camera argument WAS tongue in cheek ... I know it has been thrown around in here ad nauseum.

But lets give it a month, and I think I might actually call Ripley's and report a man whose body deformed in grotesque ways with the addition of a NZ90 to his belt (because, we know you NEVER carry it in you pocket). The same man with one arm longer than the other from holding a PDA that has made his arm stretch. The very same man who is suffering from incurable frostbite from trying to remain terminally cool. Oh yeah, you can call them for me too ... "Watch as the world's most cynical man survive yet another Sony product cycle."

BTW - the previous paragraph was sarcasm. Hate to see you take it to heart. Tone of voice, and a wink of the eye are hard to convey on the internet ;)

So, what will the the great advantage of the NZ90 in your humble opinion? I'm open to other views.

oneeyesquare

02-10-2003, 10:08 PM

Same as the NX , but print quality camera, little bigger keyboard for my bumbly fingers, and Bluetooth to use for my future Bluetooth GPS. And I like the looks much better than my NX....
The fans are defensive because for a good 3 weeks after it's announcement it was nothing but "brick" and "fat". Onerous, to say the least. The NX had a much better buzz around it, it ' was mostly 'killjoy' here for quite awhile. Trash talk gets old....

LITTLESIX

02-10-2003, 10:11 PM

Considering that you've been on here a month, and didn't live through the great purge, I'll give you the short course.

Click on my profile - you can real ALL my posts on this subject; how I'll use it, how I currently use my Nx, how I NEVER put in in my pocket (BTW - considering that I carry a 9mm on my belt along with a pair of handcuffs, I thoroughly doubt that I'll be wheelchair bound with the "hefty" addition of the NZ. I appreciate your concern nonetheless.)

And you're right - tone of voice doesn't convey on the internet. That's why most people choose their wording carefully.

Here's the part of my last post you didn't read apparently:

"No - offer an opinion all your little heart desires. Just try an original one. "

and the other piece:

"I'm sure I'm not alone in saying that as soon as our opinions are given a little validity, we'll be equally as generous."

In the meantime, we've all had to defend our choice against your argument to death.

BTW - nice demo of your thick skin. Goodnight.

ArK

02-10-2003, 10:17 PM

LOL 1iSQ, Sorry when I type fast or am pissed there tend to be spelling mistakes. Just bare w/ me as my generation has been destroyed by spell check.

Now as far as the forum goes I didn't start it to debate whether or not some1 can have an opinion just the thoughts on the first question. If you want to bad mouth the nz90 fine, but I'm w/ littlesix in that you should at least be original. Aside from that go start a seagul thread or post some where else bc I just don't want to hear it anymore. You can have your own opinion but theres a time and a place.

Token User

02-10-2003, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by LITTLESIX
Click on my profile - you can real ALL my posts on this subject; how I'll use it, how I currently use my Nx, how I NEVER put in in my pocket (BTW - considering that I carry a 9mm on my belt along with a pair of handcuffs, I thoroughly doubt that I'll be wheelchair bound with the "hefty" addition of the NZ. I appreciate your concern nonetheless.) <original content removed - no offense intended - discussed with LITTLESIX - All OK>

Originally posted by LITTLESIX BTW - nice demo of your thick skin. Goodnight. Being thick skinned doesn't mean that it is teflon coated. You have a goodnight too.

Its a pity I wasn't here before the great purge. I'd have been one of the NZ90 defenders.

BTW - One last thread crap. Did you know that seaguls can neither fart nor burp? Must be uncomfortable for them in Mexico with all those frijoles around.