I returned my TJ35... what a disappointment.

[riversen]

*** I may be buying it again after consideration ***



Well, I bought it and returned the dang thing. Boy, was I really disappointed! This thing is wonderful in many ways but horrible in others. I like the body, but the stylus is a deal breaker along with the terrible screen brightness.

Now, I have to also rant against the absolutely worst selection of applications that came with this thing. How far the mighty have fallen. I am at the point of giving up completely on Sony. They have chosen to only market for one audience... the super expensive and gargantuan PDA's that completely ignore the audience that desire the simple, elegant, powerful, but not everything type PDA. Perhaps, I am the only person who wants a T665 with power of the ARM processor, more RAM, 320X480 resolution screen, better battery life, and a decent selection of software (like what the UX offers along with Documents to Go 6.0).

Sony, you have now lost another fan. I will also be signing off from this bulletin board in the next month unless Sony finally answers with the TG50 replacement that has what so many of us want. I have nothing against ClieSource... as a matter of fact, I have really enjoyed this bulletin board, but I will have no need to continue this relationship in the future.

If nothing comes out in the next 30 days, good-bye to everyone and I wish you all the best!

[xyeta]

Are you threatening Sony, or just expressing your disappointment in their inability to satisfy every demand every handheld user could ask for?

FWIW: I also was waiting for a T series like you describe, then I just fell in love with an NX80V, and I love it more every day! I use it in tablet form most of the time anyway, so it feels very much like a T series with VG (plus all the other goodies the NX80V offers).

Broaden your perspective a little... Sony still makes the most powerful, stylish HH's on the market!

[edeab220]

Wow...that's sad. The great giant has fallen in the low to midrange PDAs.

I've already switched to palmOne, and I expect a lot from this switch.

Sony, where are you? Can you hear us? I know palmOne hears us, but how about you , Sony? Can you just listen to us for one moment? If you want to keep your customers, just listen to us for one minute, and we will be happy if you offer us what we want.

[edeab220]

Originally posted by xyeta
Broaden your perspective a little... Sony still makes the most powerful, stylish HH's on the market!
They make the stylish handhelds, but not the handhelds we all look for. Most of their OS5 handheld still have 11MB available, when we can get 28MB available for either the same or cheaper price from palmOne!

Look, I still give Sony the respect they deserve, as they still make the best RMC's and MP3 players for the PDA, but other than that, I can't find anything else to commend them on.

[rrickee]

I too was disappointed. I checked one out last weekend at CompUSA and wasn't the least bit excited about it.

I'm a proud owner of the NX70 but every day that goes by I get madder and more unhappy because of the wasted complact flash slot.

While at CompUSA I got my hands on a Tungsten T3 and boy was I impressed. I've got one on order. It has the virtual graffitti that I enjoy, a fast processor, the big screen and plenty of ram.

I'll be putting up my Limited Edition NX70 on ebay after I get the T3.

I think Palm has caught the vision.

Richard

[riversen]

Originally posted by xyeta
Are you threatening Sony, or just expressing your disappointment in their inability to satisfy every demand every handheld user could ask for?

FWIW: I also was waiting for a T series like you describe, then I just fell in love with an NX80V, and I love it more every day! I use it in tablet form most of the time anyway, so it feels very much like a T series with VG (plus all the other goodies the NX80V offers).

Broaden your perspective a little... Sony still makes the most powerful, stylish HH's on the market!

Threatening would imply that I had actually had some sway over Sony by myself. I fully realize that Sony does listen to the individual; however, from what I have heard from so many of my friends, the huge jump of Sony users to PalmOne (because of the TT3 and T/E) might be a loud enough voice to get Sony's attention.

When you say that I am disappointed "in their inability to satisfy every demand every handheld user could ask for," you are certainly make a huge assumption and conclusion. If I were asking for every little gadget under sun, then I would agree with you; however, since Sony made the very first high quality basic PDA in the T665, other T series, SJ's, and so on, I believe my desire to see the Sony TT3 version is not out of the question. In fact, Sony was poised to take this market by the horns if they only had seen it. I believe they were so full of themselves and trying to shape the market that they missed a huge market that PalmOne is not running away with. Because of all of my investments in so many Sony accessories, I was really hoping that Sony would still come out with the simplistic yet powerful PDA that would have literally locked their ownership of the PDA market.

I guess when your success has been so widely accepted in other models, you get the false sense that you can actually dictate the market. I think PalmOne learned this when Sony first came out taking away so much market share from PalmOne (Palm back then). Ironically, PalmOne is now gaining a good portion of this back via some basic and simplistic design. I guess I will be making the move to the TT3 when they finally iron out all of the bugs, etc.

In you last statement, "Broaden your perspective a little... Sony still makes the most powerful, stylish HH's on the market!," you may be right. Sony also made some of the most powerful things with the minidisc and the beta (the beta really was a much better technology than the VHS... ironically the beta technology is still used in the media today). But as with the Beta and minidisc, they were not able to make market. When will Sony learn? You know, I have also heard that the Memory Stick technology is fading in light of the ever growing ScanDisc technology. I hate buying something that will not survive.

[hotpaw4]

Originally posted by riversen
...Perhaps, I am the only person who wants a T665 with power of the ARM processor, more RAM, 320X480 resolution screen, better battery life, and ...

Sounds like a contradiction. A 320x480 display (twice as many pixels as a PPC to refresh) and more RAM would cause a the battery life to get worse, not better.

The TJ35 has most of the features of the T665, but with a much more powerful ARM processor and at a far lower introductory price.

[riversen]

Originally posted by hotpaw4


Sounds like a contradiction. A 320x480 display (twice as many pixels as a PPC to refresh) and more RAM would cause a the battery life to get worse, not better.

The TJ35 has most of the features of the T665, but with a much more powerful ARM processor and at a far lower introductory price.

Contradiction??? The SJ-33 is pretty much identical to the T665 (exception of the case and strong IR port), but it has twice the battery life. There is technology out there to put more battery power in the PDA and to make the rest of the PDA more compact to give room for the bigger batteries. Also, a handy a add-on battery could be engineered to give more power when needed (in a similar concept as the UX50 or TT3).

TJ35 has many, many less features than T665. Also, the much dimmer screen and unacceptable stylus are horrible. I looked over the software that the TJ35 had and I could not use it. If I had a TG50 and could beam some of the app's to it (don't own one and it is illegal), then I could enjoy it a bit more. Maybe I will reconsider this later, but I am hoping for something more for the TG50 replacement.

On a side note... I spoke to a Sony rep who mentioned that I might wait a month after I told him how frustrated I was about the TJ35. He said that there is something coming, but he cannot talk about it yet. Maybe, it will be something worthwhile.

[herpalm]

I looked at the tj35 at frys right beside the tungsten e, I bought the tungsten, The screen was so bright, it made my nx70 look dull. I had to buy it it was the palm Vc that I had always been waiting for. I took it home and played with it for a few days, but had to return it because I love my nx.

[hotpaw4]

Originally posted by riversen
...The SJ-33 is pretty much identical to the T665 (exception of the case and strong IR port), but it has twice the battery life...

The SJ-33 is much thicker than either the T665 or the TJ35. That's where most of the extra battery life comes from. But you originally asked for a hires+ unit with a T665 (e.g. slim) form factor, not a thicker unit such as the SJ-33 or T|C.

[atarium]

Hi all:

I think Sony lost the perspective with the TJ25 and TJ35. Those machines must be put in a very low level (at SJ22 or SJ33), with a little more software and little less price.

Maybe Sony was experimenting with the price to see how long us consumers could stand. I am sure that Sony soon will be counterstrike with another new designs as when the NV70 or the TG50 come out.

What happened with PalmOne?. They simply take advantage of the market. The hear of what we want, and do a very impresive designs but very bad implementeds (all those bugs in the T/T3 and the poor battery and the poor quality in the T/E), and putt a lot of software to look more attractive. I see those success models to be simply the "novelty of the day". Maybe the T/T4 will be better.

I read rummours about the Clie TX line. Maintain your fingers crossed.

For now, I am happy with my BlueClie (SJ33 Blue), waiting for the TX or an upgrade to the TG50...

[Lucky Bob]

I think Sony pretty much gave the lower and mid-range handheld market to Palm. The SL/SJ-series was a great group of handhelds. Since then, however, Sony has done little to compete with Palm's advances. The T|E is going to clean Sony's clock if Sony doesn't do something.

[riversen]

Originally posted by hotpaw4


The SJ-33 is much thicker than either the T665 or the TJ35. That's where most of the extra battery life comes from. But you originally asked for a hires+ unit with a T665 (e.g. slim) form factor, not a thicker unit such as the SJ-33 or T|C.

How do you suppose Sony was able to achieve such a thin design for the NX80V? I think this was done very simply by developing a thinner battery. Also, if you took off the camera, swivel design, keyboard, and CF slot, the NX80V would be exactly what I was talking about and what so many of us are looking for. If it were a bit thicker because it had a great battery life (I suspect that thickness would only be equivalent to that of the NX80V), then I think that many of us would be happy.

[neogin]

calm down .. x'mas is coming .. money is right there :D

and sony is not that dumb .. eh ?

[riversen]

Neogin... do you know something that we don't??? I would love to hear more!

[X Destruction]

Firstly, the TG50 is now at an amazing price, it's dropped so much it's almost obvious this and the NZ90 are next to be upgraded. This is not what you want. Sony cuts from low end to make the high-end seem very high-end. If they put 32mb with 28mb accessible in the TJ35, imagine what they have in line for the high ends. 64MB or 128MB for the next models I'm thinking. I'm actually thinking 64MB for the TG50 replacement, 128MB for the NZ90 replacement. They aren't going to make their lowest end device better in anything from the high-end. This is why it seems obvious they're going for more ram in the newer models. I'm expecting these two by x-mas.

It's just logical. Sony NEVER leaves a 1 model series. Look in their cameras, tv's and laptops, no 1 model series except for models that came out. In clies, the exceptions were the SL-series, obviously the same as the SJ-Series anyways. And the NR-Series which is just an OS4 NX-Series. But they never leave a real 1-model series. There will be a new tg (forget 320x480, the form factor they're going for here is small screen and keyboard) and a new nz (high-classed, probably lots of new features. I'm thinking first clie to vga video, probably will keep the 2mp camera, get a better battery, a lot more ram, and become a personal entertainment communicator having both bluetooth and wifi built in. They should work on the form factor, we just don't know. This is only fair for what should be the best of the best. These are just assumptions I'm giving, but I think they're pretty accurate).

[riversen]

I like your assumptions. I certainly hope and expect it as well. Thanks for your thoughts.

[SlvrFalcon007]

lol, what a hilarious thread

[nkc721]

I stopped the shipment of the TJ35 to exchange to the TG50 for the same price with a 64mb Memory Stick. Not bad.

After reading about the different issues that the TJ35 has i am probably better off with the TG50...

This site is really helpful!
I should have surfed it before i made my final decision.