Connect to the internet !

[wolfranium]

Ok , here is my problem ! I have the nokia 7650 , & I am trying to use it as a modem for my clie t665 , but I can't find a modem driver for it anywhere ! I mean , how can owners of the clie t665 browse the net ?! So my questions are :
1) Does anyone know a good internet browser for the clie t665 ?!
2) Does anyone know how to connect the clie t665 to the internet ( any possible way ) ?!
3) Does anyone know how to connect the clie t665 to the internet using the nokia 7650 ?!!!

Please keep in mind that I'm a simple person who just aquired the Clie , so I wouldn't understand complicated procedures ! Thank you ! :)

[Unregistered]

Ok. You have a very nice phone. It has infared. That means you can connect to the internet by lining up the ports of your 665 and your phone. You do know that your phone has web browsing capablilities? There are web browsers available at www.palmgear.com. I believe to connect to the internet you will need a dial up service. I use prodigy. Even though my phone has internet capabilites, it will not work when going through your Clie. I can also get my e-mail, but I also dial into prodigy to do that. For e-mail I use a program called Mailer. at www.electricpocket.com
I hope that helps.

[swinter]

Originally posted by wolfranium
Ok , here is my problem ! I have the nokia 7650 , & I am trying to use it as a modem for my clie t665 , but I can't find a modem driver for it anywhere ! I mean , how can owners of the clie t665 browse the net ?! So my questions are :

First, you need phone drivers on your CLIE. Go here

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nXtClieClub/files/-Miscellaneous%20Programs/

and get phone.zip and install the drivers to your PDA.

You need a dial-up ISP or a GPRS account with your cell company.  You can connect the PDA to the phone via infared but you must set it in Preferences on the PDA first. You set up the PDA to phone link under Connection (in the upper right pull down) after loading the appropriate drivers and then the ISP info under Network.

 

[wolfranium]

I would like to thank those who have taken the time to reply to my question !! :) thanks !

[IlLuSiOnS]

Is there another way to connect to the internet like thru the PC modem? I know of a program called PilotNet which is for comp ports only (we use USB) Help would be appreciated :)

[RNclie]

If your cellphone company is Verizon or Sprint you do not need an ISP to connect to the internet, you can connect through one of them. Check out www.mywirelesspalm.com for a lot of useful information. :cool:

[nMotion96]

hey Swinter

do you know if i can do the same with my t665 with my t68i phone. i have at&t and i also have earthlink dialup service. would i beable to use the earthlink dialup to go online. it would only use up my mins on the phone right? i tried setting it but keep getting a Error:no carrier (0x1102) message.
i download that phone.zip and install all the files in it.
what do i do after that

i went into network and selected earthlink then entered my user name and password and local phone #. for connection i tried differents ones i see the phone dialing but then it would retry then it would give me that error message

[swinter]

Originally posted by nMotion96
hey Swinter

do you know if i can do the same with my t665 with my t68i phone. i have at&t and i also have earthlink dialup service. would i beable to use the earthlink dialup to go online. it would only use up my mins on the phone right?

Yes, you should be able to do that. I call into my University ISP and go online all the time.

And, yes, it will use your regular minutes w/ no other charge.

i tried setting it but keep getting a Error:no carrier (0x1102) message.
i download that phone.zip and install all the files in it.
what do i do after that

i went into network and selected earthlink then entered my user name and password and local phone #. for connection i tried differents ones i see the phone dialing but then it would retry then it would give me that error message

I get that error once in a while, but mostly it's not a problem. Not sure why that is happening. Is Preferences--Connection set properly? It should read IR to T68 or BT to T68, depending on how you are connecting. If there's no prompt for the T68 (the phone drivers may not be up-to-date) try the generic GSM phone setting. (I'll look around online for updated drivers; one place you should check, however, is www.esato.com (http://www.esato.com))

Also, check Network again, tap on Details and make sure it is set to PPP, Idle Timeout = Never, and that the DNS and IP Address boxes are both checked.

Only other thing I can think of -- and this is unlikely -- is that you should include the area code for your Earthlink ISP even if it is the same as yours.

If none of these work, I woud suggest calling Earthlink and seeing if they need a special script (that's in Network --Details--Script).

[nMotion96]

i went into connection and for
connect to i only have pc, model, phone, local network
for via i have cradle/cable and infrared

was there suppose to be more than than, i don't see the ir to t68 or bt to t68

was i suppose to install all the files or only certain ones

[swinter]

Originally posted by nMotion96
i went into connection and for
connect to i only have pc, model, phone, local network
for via i have cradle/cable and infrared

was there suppose to be more than than, i don't see the ir to t68 or bt to t68

 

Yes, there should be more. Try reloading the phone drivers from phone.zip. (Did the SMS program load too? if not, than the phone.zip files didn't load properly. Note, you should load all of the files that you unzip from phone.zip, even the ones you think you shouldn't need.)

That's why you are not connecting.

You may also want to browse here:

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=3497&forum=17&19

[nMotion96]

yea i loaded all the files but it doesn't seem to show up

[Thyraz]

What is this phones.zip good for?

I dont have drivers loaded for my Mobil, all I have done was setting up a new connection, I called it "IR to cellphone"

Connect to: PC
over IR

under details 115,200 bit/s and flood on, this worked to my Siemens S45 and my new mobil from Panasonic too.

After that I set up network with the GPRS Settings for my ISP.

(Also tried GSM over an normal dialup Provider, works also fine)

[nMotion96]

funny i tried reinstalling all those files a few times already but still don't see the ir to t68

[nMotion96]

i went here and found the drivers
http://www.palm.com/be/ie/mobile/drivers.html
i see the ir to t68i now. just got to figure out the rest now

[sindu]

I had posted this somewhere else in this forum and i repost it again for the benefit of nMotion. I had also reply to nMotion on his earlier thread.

Quote
If you want to do e-mail on the road with mobile phone, there are 2 ways of doing it and you need to consult your carrier whether they provide these services.

1. Using dial up. Your service with your carrier must be data enable and you would use your mobile phone as a modem. Naturally, your mobile phone must be modem enable. Consult your local mobile phone store to see which phone have the function and fit your budget. You would also need to link your mobile phone with your T665. You could either purchase a cable to connect (again, consult your local mobile phone store to select the cable to the mobile phone of your choice) or you could use a infra-red (provide the mobile phone of your choice has an infra red capability) or your could use a bluetooth (provided the mobile phone of your choice has a bluetooth capability) to connect to T665. The dial up connection uses the same principal as your home PC. The normal connection rate using this method is about 9kbps. Normally, the carrier charge you by the time of the connection.

2. GPRS Connection. You would also need to consult your carrier whether they provide this service. If your carrier do have this service, then you would need to choose a GPRS enable mobile phone. The connection from mobile phone to T665 is the same as above. A GPRS service with GPRS mobile phone means that your connection with internet can be "always on" and you could download e-mail and surfing without "logging out". The transfer rate of GPRS service is consider very fast at 56kbps. The carrier usually charge you by the amount of data you download and upload. This can be cheaper for you if you have lots of e-mails. Please consult your carrier for this service plan. The set up of GPRS can be some what complicated but your carrier can help you on this.

I presume you have a POP e-mail software to go with your T665. If not, there are many threads in this forum to lead you.

I hope this could help you.
UNQuote

You must remember that you have a GSM service does not mean that automaticaly you service is data enable. You need to check with your carrier whether the service that you subscribe allow you to do data transfer over your mobile phone. Some carrier is automatic and some are not.

You don't need a T68i driver for Clie. Follow the response I gave you earlier which is :

n Clie's Preference, tap "Connection". Tap "New"
Name: Anything you want
Connection To: Modem
Via: Infrared
Dialing: TouchTone
Volume: Low

Tap "Details..."
Speed: 57,600 bps
Flow Ctl: Automatic
Init String: ATZ.

The GPRS set up can be quiet tricky and you need to consult your carrier. It involves dialing #, username, password, DNS etc.



I hope this will help you.

[sindu]

For those of you who want to know the detail connection for US carrier, please go to "Wireless" forum. Radiusblaster make a very good detail set up...Thanks to blaster.

[swinter]

Originally posted by nMotion96
i went here and found the drivers
http://www.palm.com/be/ie/mobile/drivers.html
i see the ir to t68i now. just got to figure out the rest now

Glad you found the drivers. Hope the rest goes smoothly.

[nMotion96]

i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong, i keep getting no carrier error message. i called earthlink and they said i don't need any kind of script. so they told me i would have to call the maker of the palm to help me out

so i called sony and they just told me you can't do any kind wires less web or email with the t665 they only one that could is the nx70. he told me the infared port is to connect to other palm so i asked about bluetooth and he said they don't support it.

Radiusblaster setup is for gprs, i wanna try to get it to dial into my ips cause i rather have it waste my min.

[swinter]

Originally posted by nMotion96
i can't figure out what i'm doing wrong, i keep getting no carrier error message. i called earthlink and they said i don't need any kind of script. so they told me i would have to call the maker of the palm to help me out

so i called sony and they just told me you can't do any kind wires less web or email with the t665 they only one that could is the nx70. he told me the infared port is to connect to other palm so i asked about bluetooth and he said they don't support it.

They all give you that line. I'm on T-Mobile (formerly Voicestream) and they used to say that they didn't support the T39 (though it was working fine for them over in the UK, where they did support that model) and that they only supported PPC not Palm, etc. And, of course, Sony isn't even selling the Bluetooth Memory Stick over here; I imported mine from Hong Kong (www.brando.com)

I've been doing IR to phone and now BT to phone for a year now. It works; we just have to figure out where the hitch is.

In Preferences--Connection, tap in Edit. Make sure all the fields are set correctly (Connect to: Phone; Via: Infared; Model: Ericsson T68). The tap on Details. This next screen has two fields -- Speed and Init String. For Speed, I would suggest experimenting with different speeds until you find what works best. You may want to start relatively low (e.g., 9600 bps to 19,200 bps) and see if that helps. The Init String should read

X1E0+CMEE=1,+CSCS="GSM";+CNMI=3,1,2,0,0;V1

Radiusblaster setup is for gprs, i wanna try to get it to dial into my ips cause i rather have it waste my min.

So is T-Mobile. My experience with GPRS in this country was very frustrating. After a very rocky start, I was able to access GPRS on the phone reliably about 8 or 9 months ago. (It has further improved since the T-Mobile takeover has filtered throughout the company.) At first, getting a GPRS connection on the CLIE (via the phone) was a virtual impossibility. (I will spare you the details, but my conclusion was that both problems had to do with the gateways -- that is, with Voicestream's implementation.) Once the GPRS on the phone became reliable, I gave GPRS on the CLIE another tryn: It was much better than before, but still somewhat spotty. If you search the archives here and on other boards you will find several of my old posts on these experiences.

At the time, I decided it wasn't worth it -- that it was easier to buy more minutes and do it via old-fashioned dial-up. It's been long enough now (about 9 months) that I have been toying with giving GPRS on the CLIE yet another chance. But I have been too so busy lately I haven't had the time to play with it.

[swinter]

Sorry, here's the correct URL

 

http://shop.brando.com.hk/index.php

[sindu]

Swinter,

I am in Singapore and my carrier is Singtel. I have been using GPRS service eversince they launch it 2 years ago. I never have problem with it. As a matter of fact, Since Singtel has a roaming service in several countries, including some in Europe, I was able to access the GPRS service on those foreign countries without changing the GPRS set up on my phone. GPRS service is far faster than normal dial up using GSM data service and is way cheaper (at least with Singtel service).

nMotion, First of all, You wanna check whether your service is data enable. As I mentioned in my previous post, if your service is not data enable, you won't be able to to do a dial up. I don't think you need a T68 driver for your dial up. Not in my case anyway. There was already "Earthlink" ISP dial up in the "Preference" - "Network". Let me go through my set up one by one with you. However, My ISP is IBM instead of "Earthlink".

In Clie's tap "Preference", tap "Connection". Tap "New"
Name: write "IR to T68"
Connection To: Modem
Via: Infrared
Dialing: TouchTone
Volume: Low

Tap "Details..."
Speed: 57,600 bps
Flow Ctl: Automatic
Init String: ATZ.

In Clie, tap "Preference", tap "Network"
Under "Service" box, tap "Window RAS
Change the name of Window RAS to "whatever you want"
"Username": write "your username"
"Password": write "your password"
"Connection": tap the name of your connection to T68. "IR to 68"
"Phone": write "the ISP dial up number"
tap "Detail"
"Connection Type": select "PPP"
"Idle Timeout": select "1 Min"
Query DNS box : Check it
"IP Address" box: Check it.

That should do it. As I mentioned before, there was a Eartlink ISP dial up protocol exist in "preference" "Network". You just need to input your username, password, and phone number. You would also need to change the connection to "IR to T68" (which you need to create using the above mentioned method".

I hope this will get you going.

[swinter]

Originally posted by sindu
Swinter,

I am in Singapore and my carrier is Singtel. I have been using GPRS service eversince they launch it 2 years ago. I never have problem with it. As a matter of fact, Since Singtel has a roaming service in several countries, including some in Europe, I was able to access the GPRS service on those foreign countries without changing the GPRS set up on my phone. GPRS service is far faster than normal dial up using GSM data service and is way cheaper (at least with Singtel service). 


I look forward to switching to GPRS eventually, but here in the States GPRS is way behind the rest of the world. I talked with many Voicestream technicians last year -- both here and in the UK -- and several admitted to me that GPRS was so new here that the provider end just wasn't up to the job. As I said, it improved between February 2002 and May 2002. Even so, I often could not use the GPRS gateway to connect to pages (like Esato) that were easy to reach via old-fashioned dial-up. If you cannot even connect to the page, then GPRS is definitely  not faster!

Once it's working smoothly, it will be.

I look forward to roaming on GPRS when I am in Europe next Spring. (Making having a world phone even nicer.)

nMotion -- sindu is probably right. You probably need to enable receipt of data on the T68 itself. Check the phone manual.

[swinter]

Originally posted by swinter


nMotion -- sindu is probably right. You probably need to enable receipt of data on the T68 itself. Check the phone manual.

 

I am looking at the menu on my T39, and it appears to me that you only need to enable data services on the phone to receive GPRS. If you are just dialing-in to an old-fashioned ISP, you shouldn't have to do anything on the phone.

[mal]

Nobody has mentioned anything about a good web browser for the Clie. I just tried PocketLink 2 by MD Development. Its good with high res support and OS 5 compatability. In fact, it's the only browser that currently supports the Clie screen as far as I know.

[swinter]

but does it support SSL and JavaScript like Xiino does?

[sindu]

Originally posted by swinter


 

I am looking at the menu on my T39, and it appears to me that you only need to enable data services on the phone to receive GPRS. If you are just dialing-in to an old-fashioned ISP, you shouldn't have to do anything on the phone.

You still need your carrier to enable data transfer on your line. I carry multiple SIM card and one of the SIM card is only for "Voice" and that SIM card was not able to do data transfer and hence cannot use for dial up. The other SIM card is data enable (different number ofcourse) and I can use this SIM card for dial up. Hence nMotion might need to check with his carrier (AT&T) whether his service is data enable. As I mentioned earlier, some carrier service inclusive data transfer but some charge more for data enable service.

[nMotion96]

oh i kinda get it now. but what do i ask when i call at&t. is it called data service, i don't want to get the person to thinking i'm asking about gprs and stuff.

[sindu]

nMotion, just ask whether your GSM line allow you to do data transfer...

[RNclie]

Originally posted by mal
Nobody has mentioned anything about a good web browser for the Clie. I just tried PocketLink 2 by MD Development. Its good with high res support and OS 5 compatability. In fact, it's the only browser that currently supports the Clie screen as far as I know.

Try Blazer. :)

[mal]

I used Blazer before but it does not support hi res. Xiino also does not support high res. Please correct me if I'm wrong!

[Skatan]

I'm using Xiino

I tried PocketLink but hangs every time I tap on an icon

[mal]

You are right about Pocketlink hanging often. That thing is the most unstable palm programme I've tried. Going back to Blazer. How good is Xiino compared to Blazer?

[Skatan]

I use both because Xiino has a dysplay problem with sites with background images.

Anyway I prefer Xiino for better frames management, seems faster to me and I can download images, .Zip, and software.

[tarheelguy]

Anyone have any experience with this phone. I have had the run around about this with both Nextel and Motorola.

[Unregistered]

nMotion96,

I use a T665 with a Siemens S46 cellphone and AT&T Wireless service to occasionally browse the web. Eudora is the web browser I use on the T665. Here is what worked for me:

1. Create new connection

Name:Siemens S46
Connect to:Modem
Via:Infrared
Dialing:TouchTone
Volume:Low

Details
Speed:115,200 bps
Flow Ctl:Automatic
Init String:ATZ


2. Obtain an AT&T username and password.

Connect to the internet directly with the cellphone via mMode. Take a look at your AT&T wireless account balance. That will require you to create your AT&T GSM/GPRS username and password.

3. Setup your T665 network preferences

Service:AT&T Wireless
User Name:nnnnnn
Password:pppppp
Connection:Siemens S46
Phone:*99#

Details
Connection type:PPP
Idle timeout:Never
Query DNS:check yes
IP Address: check yes

Script
End:

Nez

PS This is a great board

[sindu]

Unregister,

Please do register and join the community. Anyway, nMotion is looking for a dial up connection, not GPRS. He want to spent the "free" minutes he get from his carrier. I hope he has figure it out by now.

[swinter]

Originally posted by sindu
Unregister,

Please do register and join the community. Anyway, nMotion is looking for a dial up connection, not GPRS. He want to spent the "free" minutes he get from his carrier. I hope he has figure it out by now.

 

took the plunge today and signed up for T-Mobile GPRS service for my CLIE. Must say it is now working very smoothly -- like silk. all it took was to create a new data connection on the T39 and then the simple network set up (*99***2#, where "2" is the CID number of the data connection on the phone) on the CLIE. no problems at all.

for those who are interested, I am using Xiino for the web and SnapperMail for my pop email accounts.

[sindu]

Swinter, Welcome to 2.5G world...fast on receiving mail eh...

[swinter]

Originally posted by sindu
Swinter, Welcome to 2.5G world...fast on receiving mail eh...

Snapper (and before that Corsoft's Aeliron) are pretty fast even on dial up. But, yes, it is faster!

Now, I am waiting for real 3G.

[SanfordTurbo]

I'm using AT&T in the states and doing prelim research on getting online from my T665C. I have yet to purchase a phone. I'm thinking about the bluetooth memstick out of the UK or Japan. I've found them on Expansys for $119 and several sites that explain how to get it to work...including this board.

Anyways, I see I need a bluetooth phone with a built in modem if I want to do dialup. However, I'm not sure if AT&T supports dialup or just their mMode stuff. I already have dialup access to the internet from work...we use the sprint dialer stuff on our laptops and I currently use my T665C and an external Pegasus Infrared Modem to connect via landline. But I would like to go completely wireless in the near future.

Anyone know if AT&T suport dialup? Does this come out of your normal minutes plan per month?

If not, how much are you shelling out for normal web browsing with the mMode stuff?

Thanks for your assistance.

[swinter]

I'm  not on AT&T, but in principle you should be able to dial into an old-fashioned ISP using BT and a BT enbaled phone. (Never had any problem doing that with T-Mobile before I switched to their -- much cheaper that AT&T-- GPRS)

I would suggest the Sony Ericsson T68 phone.

[FlyPenFly]

For people using Tmobile, I was just wondering what your using for your username/password

on my laptop I don't have to enter anything for either...

[javabird]

Originally posted by swinter


You need a dial-up ISP or a GPRS account with your cell company.  You can connect the PDA to the phone via infared but you must set it in Preferences on the PDA first. You set up the PDA to phone link under Connection (in the upper right pull down) after loading the appropriate drivers and then the ISP info under Network.

 

Can someone tell me if you can use a TDMA phone to connect via dial-up? Or does it need to be a GMS phone?

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by sindu
In Clie's tap "Preference", tap "Connection". Tap "New"
Name: write "IR to T68"
Connection To: Modem
Via: Infrared
Dialing: TouchTone
Volume: Low

Tap "Details..."
Speed: 57,600 bps
Flow Ctl: Automatic
Init String: ATZ.

In Clie, tap "Preference", tap "Network"
Under "Service" box, tap "Window RAS
Change the name of Window RAS to "whatever you want"
"Username": write "your username"
"Password": write "your password"
"Connection": tap the name of your connection to T68. "IR to 68"
"Phone": write "the ISP dial up number"
tap "Detail"
"Connection Type": select "PPP"
"Idle Timeout": select "1 Min"
Query DNS box : Check it
"IP Address" box: Check it.
Fantastic stuff! That sorted out my problem as I couldn't remember how to configure my NX70/Ericsson T610 after a reinstall.

Thanks again!

[devis]

Originally posted by FlyPenFly
For people using Tmobile, I was just wondering what your using for your username/password

on my laptop I don't have to enter anything for either...

Nothing at all. I have the 4.99 unlimited T-zones and it works great. Xiino though is a very strange browser. It will give me a lot of timeout errors that can become really frustrating. I wish there was another browser out there that supported Javascript. I could care less about SSL. If I need to know my bank balance I just call... or find an ATM... or a real computer :)

[dt34]

I was wondering if someone could help me. I have t-mobile service and they have free gprs wap service. I've used my s105 samsung phone via Irda to connect to my laptop and surf the internet. I was wondering what I need to do on my clie tj35 to also surf the net.

So far, I've downloaded a demo version of blazer browser....i've been reading that I may need phone drivers for the clie....i d/l-ed some from sony, but they don't seem to show up on the clie.

I know that some of you use t-mobile (US) and wondered what the exact settings to input into the clie. If anyone can help with the exact process and procedures so that I can connect to my clie (os 5) with gprs.....it would be greatly appreciated....thanks!!!!!!

dt34

[sjmawson]

Another variant

I have just got my NX80 talking to my new Nokia 6600 via Bluetooth.

What works perfectly is when I use BT to dial my ISP - no problems here, but we are talking modest speed.

What I am having trouble with is using BT to link up to my phone GPRS service. I set up a separate service provider, using *99# as above etc. Connection is established. The little 'G' box on my phone screen appears. Hooray! I go into NetFront. I tell it to refresh and after a second the 'G' disappears and the Clie hangs.

Any thoughts?

Simon