View Full Version : Flimsy USB Mini-Port Cover ?
Unregistered
10-09-2003, 11:31 PM
I've noticed as I've plugged and unplugged in the USB
sync cable, that the plastic tab that attaches to the
door cover looks really flimsy. I can see that at some
point in the future with bending and unbending the cover to plug in the sync cable, eventually the cover will snap off the plastic tab it attaches to. Then, I will be
left with a situation with nothing to cover the open port.
Has anyone had the USB cover break off yet?
samlaiws
10-09-2003, 11:48 PM
Nope, But if you are worry about that. Try to use either WiFi Hot Sync / BlueTooth.
They are quite easy to set up and throw your USB cable away.
I used to have an old Sony notebook that had the same type plastic cover to protect the telephone connection. I used it many times a day over a period of a couple of years and it never broke off.
sonicboy
10-10-2003, 06:25 AM
you can remove the cover all together...
or just wait till it breaks, I'm sure sony are waiting with a truck load of flimsy replacement covers for us to buy...
Rafterman11
10-10-2003, 09:07 AM
The only problem with a WiFi hotsync (not sure if its true for bluetooth too, probably not) is that there is a bug in the network hotsync where if you try to hotsync a file over 100 or 200k (I forget which) to a storage card, it crashes the hotsync session. Main memory is OK, but not syncs direct to storage cards.
I love the UX50, they did so many things right with it. But one thing they did horribly wrong is the cradle. I love the flat concept, but they didn't put a USB sync port on it, just power? Weak. I use wireless hotsync because its annoying to have to pop the thing into the cradle for power, then make another connection to the port on the UX50. Of course, having to deal with that flimsy cover everytime too :) I have owned many Palms and PocketPC's. Not one, even the old Palm III's back in the day, didn't have both power and sync ports on the cradle. I can deal with no sync button on the cradle, but to have our sync and power ports seperated between the cradle and the unit is a poor design IMO.
Omnitron
10-10-2003, 09:07 AM
I agree -- I was a little worried about it, but don't use the thing much for anything anymore. Once I set up WIFI, the port stays closed most of the time.
As for moving stuff to card - I just remove the card, put it in the reader and then transfer. It is a hell of a lot faster than a hotsync transfer of such large files.
Jookwarrior
10-10-2003, 10:22 AM
not sure how one would go about removing the port cover besides ripping it off...
Bluecatz
10-10-2003, 10:25 AM
Is there a way to use the Data Import function over WIFI instead of USB? I tend to use that function quite often as it makes for a great USB drive when taking files to and from work.
samlaiws
10-10-2003, 10:41 AM
I don't think u can use data import/export with WiFI. However, try download SmbMate. This is the best program for transfer files between your PC and UX50 over WiFi.
Bluecatz
10-10-2003, 10:48 AM
Thanks Sam, I'll give it a try.
Jookwarrior
10-10-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by samlaiws
I don't think u can use data import/export with WiFI. However, try download SmbMate. This is the best program for transfer files between your PC and UX50 over WiFi.
but then don't you need to setup a Samba server?
Jook: UNless you're doing windows, where you can share disks directly. Samba is windows networking in the end.
SMB also works for Macs, I guess, although it's prbably not properly configured from the factory.
sonicboy
10-12-2003, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by Jookwarrior
not sure how one would go about removing the port cover besides ripping it off...
just tilt it down it pops right out of there, baka
Jookwarrior
10-13-2003, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by sonicboy
just tilt it down it pops right out of there, baka
well excuse me...a bit overreacting isn't it? I suppose with your 600+ posts you consider yourself some kind of clie master or some silly idea like that. Maybe you can take your snide comments somewhere else where they may be more appropriate like geek.com or the like.
Sneezy
10-13-2003, 11:36 AM
What does baka mean? Otherwise, I don't think that post was snide. I presume that the thing would pop out pretty easy with some downward force (or any directional force for that matter).
Jook: What the heck is your problem, Jook. Really. WHAT was snide about Sonicboy's comment? It's answering (if shortly) and using "Baka" doesn't make a comment snide (nor is "baka" an insult, as it's usually said jokingly, especially by those who have no idea about Japanese and only know it from being in the "scene").
csv96
10-13-2003, 11:41 AM
This really works. Just extend the cover all the way out, tilt it down about 45 degrees and the whole thing pops out.
Originally posted by sonicboy
just tilt it down it pops right out of there, baka
Jookwarrior
10-13-2003, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Sneezy
What does baka mean? Otherwise, I don't think that post was snide. I presume that the thing would pop out pretty easy with some downward force (or any directional force for that matter).
as an actual asian person (not some person that happens to be living in japan), I know that baka is a term that tends to be thrown around in japan. however, it's not something someone who I don't know should throw at me in response to an honest question (I mean I knew it was possible to take it off...just wondered if it could be done cleanly).
i had more respect for sonicboy before this (he did have the first pics taken from a ux-50 online) but now I see that he's just some arrogant person who thinks that he's "all that". kinda disappointing really.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=baka
baka
"ba-ka"
Fool, blockheaded, idiot, folly, nonsense, absurdity.
Baka o iu - To talk nonsense
Baka o miru - to be fooled
Baka o suru - to make a fool of oneself
Baka ni suru - To make fun of
Baka na hito - Foolish person
Baka ni - Awfully
Bakabakashii - Foolish, silly
Bakabakashii koto - Foolish matter
Baka yaroo - You fool! Idiot!(Vulger)
Jookwarrior
10-13-2003, 11:56 AM
Originally posted by eduo
Jook: What the heck is your problem, Jook. Really. WHAT was snide about Sonicboy's comment? It's answering (if shortly) and using "Baka" doesn't make a comment snide (nor is "baka" an insult, as it's usually said jokingly, especially by those who have no idea about Japanese and only know it from being in the "scene").
snide probably wasn't the best word for it. I just felt decieved since I kinda liked sonicboy's posts and him using the term so loosely really ruined it for me. In my household, baka was never a word used lightly so anyone using it (no matter how, "light-hearted" intented it may be) needed a REALLY good reason. I just didn't see that reason.
Jook: I do understand you. And I feel the same when people in the US say "pendejo" or "puto" or some other bad word in spanish. I know they are much stronger than they think, but they probably think they're being "hip", witty, cool or acid (whatever) saying it. I usually just realise they have no idea what they're saying but leave it be because they obviously don't care enough to actually say.
Since, if you read online comics with "manga" influence (most obviously Megatokyo) you'll see "Baka" said a lot, they'll probably end up using it in the wrong places because they think it's lighter than it actually is or even think it's "cute".
I'd say don't pay attention and leave them be. It's not like they actually care..:)
BTW, I beat sonicboy in posting my pictures on the internet for the UX50 for a whole week, but didn't know cliesource back then and only posted them for some friends. They would've shown in Gizmodo had my email server not started bouncing mails around because some virus or other from my ISP..:)
Jookwarrior
10-13-2003, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by eduo
Jook: I do understand you. And I feel the same when people in the US say "pendejo" or "puto" or some other bad word in spanish. I know they are much stronger than they think, but they probably think they're being "hip", witty, cool or acid (whatever) saying it. I usually just realise they have no idea what they're saying but leave it be because they obviously don't care enough to actually say.
yeah, I try my best to educate a lot of the fanboys in my area to not use it lightly. Who knows what would happen if they walked into Japantown and said it to some asian gangster who asked him what time it was...
Since, if you read online comics with "manga" influence (most obviously Megatokyo) you'll see "Baka" said a lot, they'll probably end up using it in the wrong places because they think it's lighter than it actually is or even think it's "cute".
I'm actually a fan of mega-tokyo. not so much the story-line (it's really all over the place these days) but the artwork is great. I really dont mind if its some hot asian chick who's making fun of a goof that I made. I just mind A LOT when it's some white guy in response to a question. believe me, there IS a difference.
BTW, I beat sonicboy in posting my pictures on the internet for the UX50 for a whole week, but didn't know cliesource back then and only posted them for some friends. They would've shown in Gizmodo had my email server not started bouncing mails around because some virus or other from my ISP..:)
Thanks for clearing that up. I'll now be thankfully referring to you as the first instead of this other guy. I just expected more since he does live in japan. I wonder if he uses it often. I can definitely say that all of my transplanted Japanese friends don't use it often (we've gone karaoke'ing and clubbing and drinking so it's not like they didn't have an opportunity to) and when they do, it's only to replace the f word. maybe it's the people that he hangs around with. :D i think it's just exposing more of his otaku gaijin-ness.
Jook: Don't put me as poster, as I never did manage to put them here. I do know that I saw the first posts and was very angry for no having known where to post the things and having the e-mail technology fail on me..:)
On the other thing, sadly the misuse of phrases and words is all too common when crossing borders. To be completely fair, English is used in VERY wrong places in Japan. Probably for the same reason people use Japanese or Spanish wrongfully in the US or the Internet, because it makes them feel cool or different.
I have friends in the US who never use spanish in front of me, because they know that not only I don't get mad, but I'll end up getting scholarly with them and making them feel stupid and ignorant, but I know they use it when I'm not around, and they use it in all the wrong places and ways, but if they were to use it correctly it would probably stop being funny or cool.
Jookwarrior
10-13-2003, 01:40 PM
Originally posted by eduo
On the other thing, sadly the misuse of phrases and words is all too common when crossing borders. To be completely fair, English is used in VERY wrong places in Japan. Probably for the same reason people use Japanese or Spanish wrongfully in the US or the Internet, because it makes them feel cool or different.
I totally agree. Growing up in Southern California, a much bigger melting pot than the Bay Area. I saw tons of Caucasian people coming out of Spanish class flinging cusswords left and right.
Luckily, there were no Chinese/Korean/Japanese classes or else the situation would have been much worse.
I remember hearing about how Eddie Murphy when he went to Tokyo would get people shouting at him "F*** you!!!" because he used it in his shows so often and people thought it was hilarious.
I thought cultural immersion was the key but that apparently isn't the case with sonicboy. When I went to Japan this February (I've been several times) and went out with friends, the term would be used (I affirm that it's used more freely there than in America where I think my Japanese friends are more conservative) but in a very light and teasing manner. When guys did it, it was definitely because we knew each other well and could stand it (same in the US, where I can use the f word with friends when done in a joking manner). You just don't use it with complete strangers.
When growing up, I'd get tons of people coming up to me and saying, "How do you say this in so-and-so language?" Thankfully, they'd usually forget within the day but I hate thinking that I in some way promoted this thoughtlessness.
imho, people like sonicboy need to take a look at the words they use when posting because it kind of implies what kind of people they are. if you want to be taken seriously, those words are just not supposed to be used. these posts are different from outbursts cause you can always delete what is typed. it kinda pisses me off that he would take the time to type that in and then send it off thinking "hey I used a japanese word in my post. I'm so cool."
anyways, i need to get back to work. enough time has been spent on one word typed by someone who needs to be culturally enriched in better ways.
in other news, I forgot my clie at home today so I may be slightly more pissed off than normal. hahaha :-P
KBurton
10-13-2003, 02:27 PM
Originally posted by Jookwarrior
in other news, I forgot my clie at home today so I may be slightly more pissed off than normal. hahaha :-P
One feature I've often wanted on a PDA is an alarm that goes off whenever the PDA and I get more than about 2 meters apart. But I guess I'd have to have a transmitter surgically implanted...hmmm, might still be worth it. It's about time I became Bluetooth-enabled anyway. In my peer group, that would be one heck of a status symbol; especially if I could get one with the blue blinking light :-)
Hope your day's been improving,
Keith Burton
Jookwarrior
10-13-2003, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by KBurton
One feature I've often wanted on a PDA is an alarm that goes off whenever the PDA and I get more than about 2 meters apart. But I guess I'd have to have a transmitter surgically implanted...hmmm, might still be worth it. It's about time I became Bluetooth-enabled anyway. In my peer group, that would be one heck of a status symbol; especially if I could get one with the blue blinking light :-)
HAHAHA!!! Now that would be very cool. It would suck though to have to take it out to recharge again. You COULD use one that's nuclear powered or nickel-cadium powered device... I hear there are versions that can be recharged through the skin. That would be so neat to have people around you with BT-enabled devices wondering what the heck they're connecting to! :-D
Hope your day's been improving,
Luckily, I hotsynched at work before the weekend, so at least I can add some more todos, memos and sync again tomorrow. I am totally afraid of losing it. I've gotten some big ticket items stolen before but I've never lost anything this expensive<->small. That implant would come in handy. :-D
dannn
10-13-2003, 03:30 PM
i only use the USB port for data import to the internal media.
wifi is wha ti hotsync with
Exception
10-13-2003, 04:01 PM
I've decided I wouldn't use the cable the day I received my UX50.
Wirelss hotsync only. If I have to move big files to MS, I'll use smbmate, it is easy to use.
Samba also works with linux. I can see my 1000+ mp3 files on my file host running redhat.
Originally posted by KBurton
One feature I've often wanted on a PDA is an alarm that goes off whenever the PDA and I get more than about 2 meters apart. But I guess I'd have to have a transmitter surgically implanted...hmmm, might still be worth it. It's about time I became Bluetooth-enabled anyway. In my peer group, that would be one heck of a status symbol; especially if I could get one with the blue blinking light :-)
Something I'm waiting to see are bluetooth keychains (or better yet, a combination keychain/bluetooth/USB Drive w/256MB..:) which are charged through the USB port.
I am a mac user and have been using Salling Clicker since it was named differently, and depend on its functionality 100% (I'm sure something similar exists for windows -Phonefront, I think- and Linux -No idea- but I'll focus on the one I've used and know).
This resident program actually monitors, as often as you'd like, your bluetooth devices. You can program it to "sense" the device when in range and do things to either of the devices when connected. For example:
When you "enter" range:
-Your phone gets a "menu" wherein you can control your computers applications. I have it set to control PowerPoint/Keynote, the iTunes MP3 player, the DVD player and some basic mousing around and screenshot taking, as well as taking some info from the computer like uptime, info about songs or sending/receiving messages in my IM application.
-Your computer "knows" the phone is in range, so whenever the phone gets a phone call the computer looks up the number in the local addressbook and shows you the information about that contact BEFORE you pick up, letting you see the picture of the person and the basic information you require about them.
-The DVD or MP3 players go to "pause" and the computer goes to "mute" modes when an incoming call is detected.
When you "exit" range:
-Your IM (ICQ, AOL, MSN, Yahoo) is put in "away" mode
-Your screensaver is started, password protected (when you "enter" range it can be deactivated automatically, making your phone, effectively, your password)
-Your MP3 or DVD player are put in "pause" mode and the computer in "mute" mode.
As it is, the Salling clicker currently supports this for both BT Phones (SonyEricsson support the most features, I think) and Palm devices (the UX included!) and is FULLY scriptable, meaning that you can make your own action scripts to be acted if what you need is not available (which, coupled with the Mac's impressive scripting capabilities, opens a TON of possibilities. For example, a company that makes home automation software has published scripts that let you control your house's Air Conditioning, Lighting, Exterior Lighting and conceivably bathtub filling from your phone or palm).
Now, if someone where to make a portable, keychain-like, bluetooth device, you could set-up similar relations between your BT devices, and if you keychain ever separated more than the BT range allows for you could have your phone start beeping and vibrating to let you know.
This can be done right now, although I'm not sure if anyone ever has.
Jookwarrior
10-13-2003, 04:42 PM
talk about a virtual tether....this stuff is cool,I'm going to have to check this out...don't have a BT phone but looking into it esp since it seems to work (after some fiddling) with te ux-50 pretty well.
Unfortunately, programs that run on the pc/mac won't help with a tether only between the ux-50 and your phone.
Best would be a ux-50 palm program. How easy are bluetooth palm programs to code? Are those BT functions in codewarrior?
I'm going to also need a tether for my car/home keys as well!:D
Jookwarrior
10-13-2003, 04:58 PM
This (http://www.79bmedia.de/bluecontact/index.html#download) seems to be more what I'm looking for. I'd like it the other way around too though (phone controlling handheld). Cause I could have my phone but not my handheld.
Originally posted by Jookwarrior
talk about a virtual tether....this stuff is cool,I'm going to have to check this out...don't have a BT phone but looking into it esp since it seems to work (after some fiddling) with te ux-50 pretty well.
The only fiddling I had to do with my SonyEricsson t610 is the drivers, downloaded from PalmOne's Phonelink, which weren't included, other than that it was as hard as any other phone connection I have undertaken in the past (would've been easier if Phonelink worked on the clie, as the scripts were already defined for most carriers in the world)
Unfortunately, programs that run on the pc/mac won't help with a tether only between the ux-50 and your phone.
Their existence paves the way for more things to come, methinks..:)
Best would be a ux-50 palm program. How easy are bluetooth palm programs to code? Are those BT functions in codewarrior?
No idea, but it may be better to get in touch with Salling Clicker's programmer, Jonas Salling, as he's already made an app that is programmable for the Palm and that handles Bluetooth (the "client" side of this equation is not that different from the server side, just can't create actions, but detects Bluetooth and can execute the actions, add to it device selection and action definition and you have the full app in the Palm as well).
I'd give it a shot, and Jonas is incredibly accessible, accepting almost every suggestion thrown his way and justifying those he can't do but allowing for other to do them.
I'm going to also need a tether for my car/home keys as well!:D
Again, somebody should come up with a keychain/bluetooth transceiver/USB drive that could work as your personal identifier, just remember to plug it in every night and off you go.
sonicboy
10-14-2003, 03:32 AM
that was a friendly "baka", baka.
and I never over react :D
lymphomadoc
11-12-2003, 08:05 PM
my cover broke off. Had it for about 3 weeks.
I never used the USB hotsync since I've gotten the UX, always had been using bluetooth to Hotsync. :D
smokeout
11-12-2003, 10:08 PM
I wasnt to get the wifi or ir to work for me until I sent my unit back and exchanged it.
Since then I was able to get the IR hot sync to work . I have not tried to wireless network cause IR works so well.
Hope this helps,
:)
sonicboy
11-12-2003, 11:13 PM
isn't bluetooth USB speed anyway? :D
(yes I know about the palm os speed cap)
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