Your UX has shortcut function build-in!!

[gnaihc]

Here is the updated description and steps:


1. What it does to your UX?
Basically your Nice and Cool UX has build-in function just like PowerRUN (see Note1). In short, it places shortcuts of you programs, which you put them in card, to your RAM memory.

Note1: If you don't know what is PowerRUN and what it does, visit PalmGear http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&sid=325203BF-4AE5-4773-BF5C38168B21E722&prodID=15870


2. What is it good for?
As several people have discovered, those shortcuts will appear in RAM (see Note2). That means you can assign those programs to your hard buttons in Prefs panel. Also, some people have reported success in hotsyncing those programs.

Note2: Normally if you put program in card (that is in the /Palm/Launcher/ folder), they will appear in the Card category of launcher.

3. Well, I have my PowerRUN/Zlauncher/etc¡K for this ability.
Speaking of PowerRUN, it can place shortcuts in your RAM. However, if you pull your MemoryStick out of the slot, those shortcuts will still remain in RAM as if they still exist. The build-in function of UX can automatically update those shortcuts whenever you plug in or pull out your MemoryStick.

Zlauncher in this case has the same function as the build-in one. But please read on.

4. The best part of this function.
For now you only see it working for MemoryStick. However, if you use the same method in the Internal Media, you will change the way you use your UX (really!!). Those programs you put in Internal Media will remain even after HARD RESET. And you will not need any memory stick for this to work. Other usage would be putting those HUGE programs with HUGE database in Internal Media, so they don't eat all your precious RAM and are always available no matter which memory stick you are using (or use memory stick at all).

5. Still, there are always drawbacks.
You can't put anything that is larger than your available RAM. For example, if you have 7MB RAM available, you can not put a map that is 8MB in MemoryStick/Internal Media. Remember it works just like PowerRUN. It copies the programs and databases to RAM when you use it.

Although this method works for both the MemoryStick and Internal Media, Internal Media works not as well as MemoryStick. If you delete programs in Internal Media, the shortcuts will not be deleted. You have to remove them manually (see Note3).

Note3: The shortcuts have a "*" before their names when you see them in file manager. You have to uncheck the Read-only attribute before you can delete them.

6. Steps

For MemoryStick
1. Open your file manager
2. Put programs and databases in /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ (see Note4)
3. Pull out your card and re-insert it.
4. You should see them appear in RAM now.

For Internal Media
1. Open your file manager
2. Put programs and databases in /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ (see Note5)
3. SOFT RESET YOUR DEVICE
4. You should see them appear in RAM now.

Note4: Databases with the same creator name as the program will work this way. However, if your program has a database with different creator name (e.g. MegaCalc needs MathLib database which has a different creator name), you will have to create a folder under that directory and put all of them in the same folder.

Note5: There is another directory for Internal Media. Programs in /System/Palm/AliasExt/ will also work. Also, you can remove three build-in programs from here (ClieDemo, RemoteCamera, and PhotoEditor). Remember when you remove a program from Internal Media, you have to delete the shortcut manually.

7. That's all guys! Enjoy your UX even better from now on! 

 
[Special Notes Section]

1. Remember to MOVE your programs to the MemoryStick/Internal Media and not just COPY them. UX will refuse to display duplicate programs. 

2. Internal Media = VMS, just in case you are not sure what other people are talking about "put stuff in VMS, etc, etc."

3. [Problem][solved] Clie Viewer might not open because of the lack of Internal Media memory.

[Solution 1] Only put apps in VMS and best if only put in /System/Palm/AliasExt/

[Solution 2] In MS, create indiviual folders for each applications. 

4. [Problem][solved] Flash Player will crash when exiting.

[Solution] Same solution as above.

5. Other OS5 models are supported. Just install the AliasExtension file from here:

http://c0mm0n.free.fr/alias/ (http://c0mm0n.free.fr/alias/) (only need one file depends on your model)

and many thanks to c0mm0n for hosting!

[LarryC]

Excellent! Thanks for the very informative post!

[bogs]

Outstanding tip gnaihc! I did the stpes for the internal memory and it works! :)

Thank you very much, now I don't need to buy a launcher.

[Eddy]

Thanks for the new post, with all the infomation listed above, with other useful applications such as PowerRUN listed, surely this would be a very useful thread.

About Avantgo, I know it can move it to MS's Launcher folder, as long as AGConnect is left in RAM & still the news content would automatically update during hotsync, but when I tried putting Avantgo in /Palm/Programs/AliasExt "internal Media" it failed to Hotsync. Any ideas?

[gnaihc]

I'm glad to see you like it. :) I just thought my original post was a bit too complicate and mixed with some unnecessary steps. Hope the simplified steps will be easier for people to follow. 

[Eddy]

yeah, it was a little bit confusing at the beginning but I managed to figured out what was causing the error. As you've mentioned in your new thread, you can't have duplicate application co-existing at the same time, so what I did was tried a completely fresh new application in the PALM/Programs/AliasExt & soft-reset then Voila! C'est tres bien!

Then I realize that all the previous applications that I've been trying to put in the VMS System folder were used either by launchers or already existing in RAM. Then UX refuse to show duplicates. Thanks for the informative new post! I still want to move avantgo to the system in vms, since the size is quite big, but then it seems not possible.

Since I think Imame has mentioned that UX will not create direct shortcuts to applications stored in SYSTEM, like AGConnect for example, it will look for avantgo, but when I store it in System, then even though the avantgo icon shows up, AGconnect will not be able to see it. Just thought this is something worth sharing.

[lmame]

Originally posted by Eddy
yeah, it was a little bit confusing at the beginning but I managed to figured out what was causing the error. As you've mentioned in your new thread, you can't have duplicate application co-existing at the same time, so what I did was tried a completely fresh new application in the PALM/Programs/AliasExt & soft-reset then Voila! C'est tres bien!

Then I realize that all the previous applications that I've been trying to put in the VMS System folder were used either by launchers or already existing in RAM. Then UX refuse to show duplicates. Thanks for the informative new post! I still want to move avantgo to the system in vms, since the size is quite big, but then it seems not possible.

Since I think Imame has mentioned that UX will not create direct shortcuts to applications stored in SYSTEM, like AGConnect for example, it will look for avantgo, but when I store it in System, then even though the avantgo icon shows up, AGconnect will not be able to see it. Just thought this is something worth sharing.

Sounds interesting...
Did you try then with Netfront "modded"?

[lmame]

It seems it does not work too if the software already exists in ROM...

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Imame
Sounds interesting...
Did you try then with Netfront "modded"?
Thanks again Imame, I've tried the NetFront v1155 on System. But when I go back to the main menu, the NetFront is still v1154. :(
It can't have duplicates as I've mentioned above. No luck with the NetFront v1155 trying to free up RAM. But it's alright, I still have 7.6M free RAM, so what is there to worry about. :D

[c0mm0n]

This foirum is really hot !

I've tested iot successfully with my vms but have to manage the shortcut by myself which isn't a big gripe as zlauncher does it very well !

The aliasext section suppoirts foilders, u don't have to pu your apps at root, just excellent !!!

Just forget about PowerRun :P

[lmame]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
This foirum is really hot !

I've tested iot successfully with my vms but have to manage the shortcut by myself which isn't a big gripe as zlauncher does it very well !

The aliasext section suppoirts foilders, u don't have to pu your apps at root, just excellent !!!

Just forget about PowerRun :P

How did you manage the shortcut "by yourself"?

[c0mm0n]

Wow even better ! a soft reset made the app appears in the launcher !! in my test it was warfare with only the gfx in ram ;

For "myself shortcut" i use zlauncher to browse the app in the aliasext folder and then "long tap" it to develop the zlauncher menu, and select shortut

[lmame]

okey dokey ;)

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
Wow even better ! a soft reset made the app appears in the launcher !! in my test it was warfare with only the gfx in ram ;

For "myself shortcut" i use zlauncher to browse the app in the aliasext folder and then "long tap" it to develop the zlauncher menu, and select shortut

Yeah, that's why I said Zlauncher has the same function. When you Tap n Hold an program in Zlauncher and choose move to card, you will have a chance to move it to /Palm/Programs/Zlauncher/Apps/ . Then Zlauncher will create sub folder and shortcut for you.

 

[lmame]

Originally posted by gnaihc


Yeah, that's why I said Zlauncher has the same function. When you Tap n Hold an program in Zlauncher and choose move to card, you will have a chance to move it to /Palm/Programs/Zlauncher/Apps/ . Then Zlauncher will create sub folder and shortcut for you.

 

With the Zlauncher trick, we can now install Netfront 3 modded in SYSTEM folder... Zlauncher "forces" the shortcut creation ;)

When you launch the shortcut, Netfront3 modded is launched successfully.
BUT, when you exit Netfront, you got an error and you have to reset... (MemoryMgr.c Line: 3675)
After the reset, Netfront3 is not in RAM anyway, so the trick is good as you don't have to have modded Netfront in RAM anymore ;)



EDIT:
A cool thing is that with the shortcut created with Zlauncher Netfront modded is now the default launcher !

[c0mm0n]

We now seem several solutions for vms/msl app storage assuming you're using zlauncher :
- aliasext + soft reset for shortcut
- aliasext + zlauncher shortcut function
- launcher folder + "refresh apps" in zlauncher
- zlauncher/apps and auto zl mangement
- 3rd paty apps
- probably more :)

I love my ux :D

[c0mm0n]

-> lmame : i've put nf in ram- modded us latest version - works like a charm ; what's your setup ? still use the jpn version ?

[lmame]

Yeah, I'm used to Japanese version now :p

In fact, now here is what I have:

0°) if a copy of Nefront3 is in RAM, I delete it
1°) I install Netfront3 modded on VMS in SYSTEM/PALM/AliasExt/NF
2°) I create a shortcut of the modded Netfront3 with Zlauncher (the UX does not create itself the shortcut as Netfront3 is already in ROM)
3°) Now I can launch Netfront3 modded using Zlauncher shortcut...

The cool thing is that now the "Netfront3 modded shortcut" is the default launcher... so when you hit the hard button which launches Netfront3, it launches in fact "Zlauncher Netfront3 modded"...

So now Netfront3 modded is launched into RAM, and when you quit Netfront 3 modded, you have an error that forces you to do a soft reset, but Netfront3 was successfully deleted from RAM before ;)

[c0mm0n]

do u mean u always have to soft reset when u exit NF ?

Putting it in ram seem to make it default launcher, and i think i'll stick to that, since the aliasext folder is excatly what i was missing

[lmame]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
do u mean u always have to soft reset when u exit NF ?

Putting it in ram seem to make it default launcher, and i think i'll stick to that, since the aliasext folder is excatly what i was missing

Yes, in RAM is works perfectly, but it "takes" nearly 3 MB...
So with Eddy we searched for a workaround, to put the modded version in MS or VMS to save a little RAM...

[c0mm0n]

Well, i've put all my external stored pgrms into the aliasext dir ; the only one that wouldn't work and just crash when launched is webpro3 so i put it back in the launcher folder

What's convenient, is that when u launch an app from the aliasext folder, u don't get the vopy progress bar but just a "launching" screen for a few secs and the app comes.

For docstogo it's a bit different :
- if in launcher folder, u don't have the copy progress bar but loading is slow
- if in aliasext, loading is faster but u have the "launching" screen foir a couple of secs

It may just be an inmpression, but aliasext seem to be faster than "copy and launch" done by ZL

[lmame]

Perhaps the way the software is loaded in RAM is different and more optimized if it is done by the UX... (Optimized API ?)

[Jeepers]

I tried it out and it works great. Fantastic tip gnaihc! Just another example of what a great community exists here and how much more fun it makes owning a UX! Seem like every day people are finding new features.

In fact there seems to be so many tips and tricks on using this device it would be great if we could compile all these into one area for people to read vs. trying to sift through all the old posts. Hmmm.....have to ponder that one.

Cheers,
Greg

[c0mm0n]

I found a way to have NF in vms as default launcher with no crash on exit ; just pout your NF modded prc in the aliasext folder, this way he'll launch but noi be default browser. Just create a shortcut with ZL and it's now default launcher :P

[Eddy]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
Well, i've put all my external stored pgrms into the aliasext dir ; the only one that wouldn't work and just crash when launched is webpro3 so i put it back in the launcher folder
Wow, thanks for the info. on the WebPro3 crashing, save me some time to experiment with that then. :D
I'm just using WebPro1.1 now & seems to be just fine.

By the way, are there other sites aside from Hotmail that is accessible with NetFront v1155 now but wasn't able to before? Just curious.... hum....
:p

[lmame]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
I found a way to have NF in vms as default launcher with no crash on exit ; just pout your NF modded prc in the aliasext folder, this way he'll launch but noi be default browser. Just create a shortcut with ZL and it's now default launcher :P

Strange... I put Netfront3.prc in SYSTEM/PALM/AliastExt, create a shortcut with Zlauncher, but it still resets on exit...

[c0mm0n]

just checked again by connecting surfing and going in and out NF, no problem at all.

I think the only difference between our respective setups is that i'm using the us version ; maybe u should test it, if it works your actual reset would be due to a dual nefront jpn version not appreciated by the device.

[Eddy]

Ok, I'm here, so still experiencing some crashing upon exiting Imame?
Oh, I saw your post from that other thread c0mm0n. :D

[lmame]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
just checked again by connecting surfing and going in and out NF, no problem at all.

I think the only difference between our respective setups is that i'm using the us version ; maybe u should test it, if it works your actual reset would be due to a dual nefront jpn version not appreciated by the device.

I tested Us version ;)

It is working now...
Perhaps there was a problem because I heavily tested both Japanese and US versions modded... I guess cache files problem conflicts???

Anyway now it works :)

[Eddy]

c0mm0n, so you mean you have the JP NF in ROM, & using EN NF v1155 in AliasExt with Zlaucher now?

[Eddy]

Great! So Imame got it working just as c0mm0n did, with the US version. So guess I'd have to try out with the US version as well myself then. I'll be busy tonight with this browser AliasExt thing. :D

[c0mm0n]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
I found a way to have NF in vms as default launcher with no crash on exit ; just pout your NF modded prc in the aliasext folder, this way he'll launch but noi be default browser. Just create a shortcut with ZL and it's now default launcher :P

-> eddy : i think this is the post u missed :)
In fact this method is a mix between aliasext and ZL ; u don't have the "wait" screen for apps launched from aliasext but the copy progress meaning it's launched by ZL

Now i got 9mb of free ram :cool:

[lmame]

Ok, it works, but it seems sometimes NEtfront3 remains in RAM...
No big deal though...

I will try with japanese version ;)

[lmame]

It works fine with modded japanese version ;)

[c0mm0n]

Just checke that it doesn't stay in ram for me when i use the modded us version stored in vms

[Eddy]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
Now i got 9mb of free ram
now you got me jealous, I also have Zlauncher but haven't got time to load it in the UX, will do so later & free some of that RAM of mine too! :D
Have any of you figured out a way to get avantgo working as well? I know you can just move the avantgo file to the "internal Media" Launcher folder & leave AGconnect in RAM then it will still hotsync. But that would mean only the avangto 888k file is moved to VMS, but all the data files are stored in RAM, & if you change the settings to store data in "internal Media" that would mean slow down in hotsync wouldn't it?

Once I get these 2 big files working in VMS then lots of free RAM! LOL :D

[lmame]

Yeah now it works perfectly...

I guess I will do a hard reset and then do clean installs and organized ones... With AliasExt VMS for example ;)

[Eddy]

Oh, and I dislike that wait screen but then better than having the PowerRUN log files running like numbers before the actual application launches.

[lmame]

Originally posted by Eddy

now you got me jealous, I also have Zlauncher but haven't got time to load it in the UX, will do so later & free some of that RAM of mine too! :D
Have any of you figured out a way to get avantgo working as well? I know you can just move the avantgo file to the "internal Media" Launcher folder & leave AGconnect in RAM then it will still hotsync. But that would mean only the avangto 888k file is moved to VMS, but all the data files are stored in RAM, & if you change the settings to store data in "internal Media" that would mean slow down in hotsync wouldn't it?

Once I get these 2 big files working in VMS then lots of free RAM! LOL :D

Perhaps the softwares (prc) must be in SYSTEM/PALM/AliasExt/xxxx

and databases in:
SYSTEM/PALM/App/xxxx

?

In Japanese UX you got Cliedemo.prc in
SYSTEM/PALM/AliasExt/ClieDemo

and the demo SWF (cliedemo.swf) file in:
SYSTEM/PALM/App/Cliedemo

[c0mm0n]

Just smg i noticed about left overs , each app that has been run on your device has a small 84b file which remains in ram ; this files aren't removed by zl nor uninstall mgr when deleting an app ; it's not that big but once in a while i do a full ram scan and delete a few leftovers, this indeed requires cautiousness

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Imame
Perhaps the softwares (prc) must be in SYSTEM/PALM/AliasExt/xxxx

and databases in:
SYSTEM/PALM/App/xxxx

?

In Japanese UX you got Cliedemo.prc in
SYSTEM/PALM/AliasExt/ClieDemo

and the demo SWF (cliedemo.swf) file in:
SYSTEM/PALM/App/Cliedemo
wow, I nearly forgot about this part, you just brought up some new ideas here, Imame! :D Somemore testing, & this seems like something more intensive & if it works that would be sooooo great.

& yeah, c0mm0n, I do that kind of clean up once in a while too with FileZ, practice makes perfect! :p

Just thinking right now, I use McFile to get this procedure done on my UX, so right now McFile is in RAM, it would be a little tricky to get McFile working off VMS, but I think with a little trick before soft-reset will get McFile working from VMS.
Install all the McFile files to AliasExt "McFile" folder 1st, then exit to main screen & delete all related McFile programs, then perform a soft-reset, & voila! You have McFile but not 2 duplicates which the UX don't accept. :D

[Eddy]

& I thought I was going to get a chance to sleep in early tonight... guess again... hahah :D

So I'll have to install Zlauncher again. Does any of you have the link to SilverX for Zlauncher? I just like it plain and simple on my UX.
Oh, by the way, do you guys use the 3D launcher at all? I just use the standard tradition interface, because it's much quicker to access my applications.

[c0mm0n]

never used the launcher, ZL was the 1st app i've installed

I just sometimes use it to go to Delete menu and check apps size or version

[Exception]

Works great on most apps. But I tried it with Warfare Inc it keeps crashing when I'm trying to exit the game. Any ideas?

Good thread btw!

[Eddy]

sorry to be a bit off topic, I'm all about Zlauncher here right now, so are there any links for the SilverX, which displays a grey status bar both on top & on the bottom? I don't really like the default skins that Zlauncher has available. & I'm fairly new to ZLauncher.

[lmame]

Originally posted by Eddy
sorry to be a bit off topic, I'm all about Zlauncher here right now, so are there any links for the SilverX, which displays a grey status bar both on top & on the bottom? I don't really like the default skins that Zlauncher has available. & I'm fairly new to ZLauncher.

You got plenty Z launcher Skins Here (http://www.palmspirit.com/phpmalogitheque/details_cat.php3?cat=30) ;)

[duraace]

Awesome tip! This replaces PowerRun, no? I think I can delete that app now.

[kaching]

:eek: this forum is too cool. :cool:

I'll have to experiment with all this later.  Thanks for all your investigations and reports so far, guys!

[kaching]

Hey, couple of related questions while I'm thinking about it:

1) So why do you think Sony singled out CLIEDemo, PhotoEditor and RemoteCam to go on the Internal Media instead?

2) Does Zlauncher have a method for removing folders/directories? I deleted the ClieDemo files but not sure how to get rid of the directory itself...

Edit: Nevermind on the second one.  I figured out how to do it in Zlauncher (Click on the folder itself to select and highlight, then use delete feature).

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by Exception
Works great on most apps. But I tried it with Warfare Inc it keeps crashing when I'm trying to exit the game. Any ideas?

Good thread btw!

Warfare Inc. works on my UX. I put the following 3 files:

Warfare Incorporated.prc

htdata824.pdb

HTSFX.pdb

to /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ and it works for me.

 

Just a side note, those Astraware games with music databases can also load from MemoryStick/Internal Media.

[Jezlyn]

I'm sorry if this is a very basic question that has been answered before... What is the difference between doing this AliasExt thing and putting .prc program files in the /Palm/Launcher folder? For as long as I've owned Clies (since 760C), I've just been putting whatever apps I could into the /Palm/Launcher folder and never really got into the usage of PowerRun.

Is this AliasExt workaround meant only for programs you can't run from the /Palm/Launcher folder on either the MS or internal memory? Or is it better somehow than putting programs in /Palm/Launcher?

[c0mm0n]

With aliasext, pdb files are managed, which isn't the case with /launcher/

IMHO, Aliasext is the best way for external app storage as it's a built in function made by sony

[davel]

I can install programs directly to /Palm/Launcher during a hotsync. Anyone know if hotsync will put programs in /Palm/Programs/AliasExt?

[duraace]

I wonder why hotsync puts them in Launcher, when Aliasext is better??

[Eddy]

Originally posted by davel
I can install programs directly to /Palm/Launcher during a hotsync. Anyone know if hotsync will put programs in /Palm/Programs/AliasExt?
Although I am not so sure about it, I don't think you can hotsync to that folder. I've read somewhere before that you might be able to use DataImport to gain access to the internal vms, yet I haven't tried that nor can I confirm that it's possible. I just copy over to a designated folder in MS, then use McFile & copy the file from MS over to AliasExt folder.

PS. c0mm0n, I've tried to put ZLauncher in AliasExt folder, it seems to have a few soft-resets every once in a while, have you tried it? Also since ZLauncher is always running, I think it should be put back into RAM, because putting it in vms will have slower launch up, with the "waiting..." msg on the screen, also it seems to drain battery much faster. Just from my experience playing around with it today. Any ideas or suggestions?

[Eddy]

I wonder why hotsync puts them in Launcher, when Aliasext is better??
As mentioned by another member, this method isn't documented, I think Sony might prefer to save themselves some work at customer service/ support department. :p

[c0mm0n]

-> Eddy, no i haven't try this and for the reasons u've given won't try it ; i dont want to get rid off all my apps ram but since i find the aliasext to be very good in managing files i've used it for most of my apps, especially the big ones indeed and all the games.

[duraace]

While the apps can go to Aliaext, what about the .pdp files? Can/should they go there too, or should they stay/go to launcher?

[c0mm0n]

aliasext doesn't need launcher dir

Just create a folder for your pgrm in aliasext put all the files in it, soft reset if u copy them in vms and u got them :)

[duraace]

So this works with user created subdirs in aliasext? Soft reset, and the UX will find them?

[c0mm0n]

YES !

[Eddy]

Originally posted by duraace
So this works with user created subdirs in aliasext? Soft reset, and the UX will find them?
basically yes. :p
The exact path is /System/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ (you create your folder here) & put all your programs here would be ok.
Or you can do the easier way which is putting those files in /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ which is simpler. :p

[Jezlyn]

--> c0mm0n: Thanks for the reply; I knew there must have been some detail that I was missing. :) I just read, though, that if you move the file to a subdirectory (I had just put the .prc file in the AliasExt directory root) that something gets screwed up and the file can't be launched because it doesn't remember the new directory (or something like that). Hopefully it works to just copy back into /Palm/Launcher and then create a subdirectory and move it and the pdb files to the subdir.

I guess I'll find out. :)

[duraace]

--> c0mm0n I created a subdir in Aliasext to hold all Mobipocket files. I did a reset, and it couldn't be found. I moved the app .prc back to Aliasext root, and it program came up again, but couldn't find it's files, so I moved those back to Launcher and all is OK again. So far, your subdir suggestion doesn't work, at least with Mobipocket. Is there something I missed? I not, no problem. It's great to me able to move things out of RAM.

[c0mm0n]

i think some pgrm may better cope with one or the other method, but i prefer the alias ext one ;

I have on vms :
dejeweled
billiards
DTG
Dynomitr
MMPlayer
Warfare
Worldmate
NF modded 1155

[Eddy]

NF modded 1155
NF modded 1155? What is that?! :confused: J/K, of course I know what that is. :D

What I have in AliasExt now:
Smbmate
McFile
AlbumSwap.prc
MSBackup.prc
DocsToGo
NetFront ver.1155 :)

I've moved back ZLauncher to RAM & it's much faster & doesn't cause soft-reset errors when I change the settings now. :p
& along with the SilverX theme, it's just soooooo nice.

P.S. c0mm0n, do you know of any French/English dictionary for UX50? Preferably freeware types. I'm trying to gain back the 4 years of French that I have completely forgotten & attending course when I've time. Many thanks in advance.
Oh, have you played with the Easter Egg thing with the UX?

[c0mm0n]

Got a question for you as u're a mcfile user :)
What fiule have u installed for mcfile ? and whoich version ? the beta or the current ?
Thx for your experience

I haven't used any dictionnaries on a palm so i'm not an expert at all ; i know ultralingua makes some which seem to satisfy mlany people but haven't tested them.

[Eddy]

I'm currently using Mc File Version 2.2Beta1 :)
Files I've installed are:
McFile.prc 220k
McFileExt.pdb 1k
McFileExtDB.pdb 1k
McFileMenu.prc 1k
McFileSend.pdb 1k

I've created a McFile folder within System/.... & stored everything there. I first created the folder & moved all the McFile related files there, & then exit current McFile in RAM, tab & delete McFile in RAM, then did a soft-reset. So now McFile is in vms System folder without problems. :)

If I did a soft-reset before deleting the original McFile in RAM, then the McFile in vms wouldn't work, because there're 2x McFile & AliasExt don't seem to work when the exact application is already in RAM. ;)

Oh, and thanks for the advice on the Dictionary thing. :p

[duraace]

re: Dictionary. I bought the Mobipocket Oxford dictionary yesterday, and it's quite extensive. Nicely integrated with Mobipocket.

[c0mm0n]

Thx Eddy, i've just installed it with smbmate copied the file in aliasext and resetted no ram copy :)

[Eddy]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
Thx Eddy, i've just installed it with smbmate copied the file in aliasext and resetted no ram copy :)
wow, you're really taking the most advantage of AliasExt & reducing the consumption of your RAM! My UX is around 10.1M free as of now. Since you've got me jealous with the 9.6M free off your UX! LOL :D

Oh, just some minor notes.
I use SplashID, so it contains alot of important information in a DB data file. Even though I got it to work using AliasExt, with the proper Data DB copied to the RAM, I think, personally, would be best for applications that contains these kind of important information to be kept in RAM or via PowerRUN. It's safer to me that way. ;)

duraace, thanks for the Dictionary info. So if you don't mind me asking, how much did you have to pay for it? Are there any freewares out there? just curious... many thanks again

[duraace]

it was just $14 at Mobimate. Cheap for what you get.

[elwuero]

Once I move applications to the internal memory card using McFile, how can I move them back to RAM? I realized that some of the apps. I use more often should be in RAM so they open quicker.

thnx for the help.

d

[Eddy]

Originally posted by elwuero
Once I move applications to the internal memory card using McFile, how can I move them back to RAM? I realized that some of the apps. I use more often should be in RAM so they open quicker.
As mentioned in the first page of this thread I think, deleting the application would be a bit more troublesome. (I haven't tried moving it back myself, so not really sure, but usually I just delete it)

What I do is use FileZ, "view and Edit Files" on "PalmCard".
At the very beginning of the list, as you scroll down, you'll see a list of the applications that you've moved to the "internal Media", the file names all begins with *. (eg. *DocsToGo).
Then check on the app that you want to remove, tap on "Details", go into "attributes" tab, uncheck "Read Only" & "Copy Protected" then "save".

Exit FileZ & now you can choose delete application from the main screen & soft-reset. Or you can try moving the application back to RAM, though I haven't tried moving back applications to RAM.
*SO TRY THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, I WON'T BE HELD RESPONSIBLE!

I'd suggest that you perform a backup before trying this, just incase. :)

This is (to me personally) a disadvantage when it comes to applications that contains important Data files. Just as I've mentioned in previous post. I prefer to keep SplashID running via PowerRUN, so there wouldn't be any mistake moving back files, losing data. ;)

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by elwuero
Once I move applications to the internal memory card using McFile, how can I move them back to RAM? I realized that some of the apps. I use more often should be in RAM so they open quicker.

thnx for the help.

d

1. open up McFile and find your apps (their name should start with a "*")

2. select their properties and uncheck the read-only box

3. delete the apps

4. now you can move your apps back to ram

[anthonymoody]

This is a super useful thread - thanks to all!

TM

[dapitts08]

Eddy,

For some reason when I moved Docs2Go it is not showing up in RAM. All of the other applications I moved worked except this one...any ideas?

[Unregistered]

Just a warning, running programs from AliasExt on a memory stick can prevent Clie Viewer from working. The message "Cannot Launch Clie Viewer. It might be caused due to lack of free space in Internal" will appear. A workaround is to remove the stick before starting Clie Viewer, then insert the stick while Clie Viewer is running.

Running programs on AliasExt on a memory stick also appears to crash FlashPlayer when exiting.

[Eddy]

Originally posted by dapitts08
For some reason when I moved Docs2Go it is not showing up in RAM. All of the other applications I moved worked except this one...any ideas?
Soft-reset?
Or did you remove your previous copy of Docs2Go from RAM 1st?
There should only be 1 sinlge file right?
DocsToGo.prc & I've placed it under "System/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/DocsToGo" & it worked fine for me. (oh, I used DocsToGo v5 still, that was from my previous NX70 :p)

[Eddy]

Running programs on AliasExt on a memory stick also appears to crash FlashPlayer when exiting.
Thanks for the tip, actually I've never tried programs from MS's AliasExt folder, since I stored everthing under VMS on the UX. :p

[samlaiws]

Thanks for the information... the whole Flash Player thing got me headache for the whole morning....

Seems like I need to use powerrun if I want to run program from my memory stick la....

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by Eddy

Thanks for the tip, actually I've never tried programs from MS's AliasExt folder, since I stored everthing under VMS on the UX. :p

Eddy, so I assume you have no problem with flash play with just apps stored in VMS? I have apps stored both in MS and VMS and I got a crash when exit flash player. I tried remove my MS and it still crashs. I will try to investigate where the real problem is.

[samlaiws]

I just moved all my file from MS AliasExt to Internal media AliasExt,

It works like charm...

My Flash player didn't crash on exist and my clie viewer works again :D

[gnaihc]

As for Clie Viewer problem, I try the solution provided by Unregistered with no lock. I then try to move all my apps in VMS to some other unaffected folder( still in VMS) and do a soft reset. After that, my Clie Viewer runs fine. Something strange is when I move all apps back to the original AliasExt folder and soft reset, Clie Viewer still runs as usually. I can't seem to reproduce the problem after that.

[gnaihc]

Can you guys confirm this?

1. Try move all your apps from VMS/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ to VMS/System/Palm/AliasExt/.

2. Do a soft reset

3. Go to Clie Viewer and see if the problem with memory still appears

Mine seems to run fine after I perform the above steps. And please continue to post any problem you have with AliasExt here. Thanks.

[gnaihc]

As for Flash Player problem, it seems doesn't llike apps in MS AliasExt, but works fine with VMS AliasExt.

So I would take a guess that the most stable way (both for Clie Viewer and Flash Player)to use AliasExt is ONLY in VMS/System/Palm/AliasExt/

Any thoughts?

[Unregistered]

Yes, I agree. I just tried all four AliasExt directories individually and it seems that any AliasExt activity on the Memory Stick crashes Clie Viewer and Flash Player regardless of what's going on in the VMS AliasExt directories. Hopefully Sony will issue a patch for this, but they may not since AliasExt is sort of an undocumented (and perhaps unsupported?) feature.

Originally posted by gnaihc
As for Flash Player problem, it seems doesn't llike apps in MS AliasExt, but works fine with VMS AliasExt.

So I would take a guess that the most stable way (both for Clie Viewer and Flash Player)to use AliasExt is ONLY in VMS/System/Palm/AliasExt/

Any thoughts?

[samlaiws]

I think we are on the right track.

For me.. both
*VMS/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/
*VMS/System/Palm/AliasExt/

works fine for me....

So gnaihc, did your Clie viewer still crash when you use VMS/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ instead of VMS/System/Palm/AliasExt/ ?

just curious

[gnaihc]

Yeah, strangly after I move those file back and forth, the problem is gone. Actually, I just put files in those places as before and just ignore the flash player problem (I don't use it that often anyway).

[Eddy]

wow, sorry I've been away all day. :p
But seems like you guys here with the Clie Viewer problem have already found the solution! :D
I just never thought about putting applications in MS's AliasExt folder, because the VMS is internally fixed so all applications would still function despite the fact that I've removed the MemoryStick.

For me.. both
*VMS/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/
*VMS/System/Palm/AliasExt/
works fine. :D

It seems you guys have found a flaw with the AliasExt function! That's very good to know. Not that I'd go and start putting applications on my MS. :)

[gnaihc]

I think the one advantage putting apps in MS instead of VMS is that the shortcuts will automatically update when you pull out or insert MS. That is not the case for VMS because you have to delete those shortcuts manually. But again, usually people only put those important-and-stay-there-forever apps in VMS. So that might not be an issue.

[sindu]

This is a good thread. It solve some of my problem with launching the application from Ram.

[Unregistered]

Do you know that AliasExt is not just for UX50, but it runs also on other PalmOS devices - like NX70V?

[alvyn]

Hi,

I suddenly have problem accessing Piscel Viewer on my Jap OS UX-50 where the message "Cannot Launch Piscel Viewer. It might be caused due to lack of free space in Internal" appear. After trying to move the file to memory stick under Palm/Progames/AliasExt, the system crash.

Currently my piscel viewer is moved back to internal memory, but a message (in Japanese - which I do not understand) about AliasExt failure appear as "/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/%2A%2APiscelViewer.prc" ??

Can someone advise what should I do to make Piscel Viewer work again ??

Thanks a lot.

Alvyn

[Eddy]

Do you know that AliasExt is not just for UX50, but it runs also on other PalmOS devices - like NX70V?
Wow, interesting to know, so on devices other than UX, you'd have to execute this off the MemoryStick then???
I mean you can't creat folders within RAM obviously, nor would the programs still be resident after a hard-reset. :p
But thanks for the tip, I'll be trying this with my NX70 off the MS's /Palm/Programs/AliasExt later. :D

[Eddy]

Can someone advise what should I do to make Piscel Viewer work again ??
So you mean you've basically removed the original files from the Virtual MS "internal media" from your UX50??? :eek:
I don't think that's possible though, since PicselViewer is in ROM.

You might want to try a hard-reset which might bring back the original files, since PicselViewer is based in ROM, it should still be there. Hope this might help. :p

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by alvyn
Hi,

I suddenly have problem accessing Piscel Viewer on my Jap OS UX-50 where the message "Cannot Launch Piscel Viewer. It might be caused due to lack of free space in Internal" appear. After trying to move the file to memory stick under Palm/Progames/AliasExt, the system crash.

Currently my piscel viewer is moved back to internal memory, but a message (in Japanese - which I do not understand) about AliasExt failure appear as "/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/%2A%2APiscelViewer.prc" ??

Can someone advise what should I do to make Piscel Viewer work again ??

Thanks a lot.

Alvyn

I would guess if you delete the shortcut (start with a "*") of Piscel Viewer and do a soft rest, your problem might be solved.

[alvyn]

Hi Gnaihc,

Thanks for your reply.

I have since deleted all Piscel Viewer file in my UX-50 as I have tried to move the file to too many location. I will try to download from the CD-rom and try again. From the file manager, it seems that my piscel viewer have "***Piscel viewer*.prc" indicated ??? What does the "*" indicate ???

Best regards.

[sindu]

*filename is the short cut in Ram.

[alvyn]

Hi Eddy/Gnaihc,

Tried downloading Piscel Viewer from CD-rom and realised there is no such file !!! Must be bundled from factory setting....now I am left without Piscel Viewer : (

Anybody know where to restore the Piscel Viewer ??? Or can send to me ???

Thanks alot.

[alvyn]

Hi,

Sorry...I think the Piscel Viewer (size is still in my internal memory as I check my file manager. It is reflected as "***piscel viewer*.prc" but I just cannot launch it. No error message...just cannot launch.

Any advise will be appreciated.

Thanks.

[gnaihc]

The file start with "*" is just shortcut for pisel viewer. If you've moved the actual app some where else (or in this case, deleted), the launcher will still have that *pisel viewer file (but will link to nothing). The only way will be delete the *pisel viewer manually (because it's read-only) and reinstall pisel viewer.

[alvyn]

Hi Gnaihc,

Thanks for your advise.

Where can I reinstall the Piscel Viewer? As I cannot find it on the installation CD-Rom.

Regards,

Alvyn

[lmame]

Originally posted by Eddy

So you mean you've basically removed the original files from the Virtual MS "internal media" from your UX50??? :eek:
I don't think that's possible though, since PicselViewer is in ROM.

You might want to try a hard-reset which might bring back the original files, since PicselViewer is based in ROM, it should still be there. Hope this might help. :p

Nope ;)

Picsel Viewer is on VMS, I did a thread a long ago, on "how to get some extra free space on a japanese UX" :)
http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=26136&highlight=picsel+viewer

And I gave the software list installed on VMS (on japanese UX):

[Eddy]

So they're deletable then, thanks! Imame! ;)

[Eddy]

by the way, I have seen that posting of yours before on how to gain more space from VMS. I just didn't have a UX back then. :p

[alvyn]

Hi Imame,

Thanks for sharing your findings.

Does it mean that I will not be able to recover Piscel Viewer ?? Any chance of sending me the file??

Thanks again.

[lmame]

Originally posted by alvyn
Hi Imame,

Thanks for sharing your findings.

Does it mean that I will not be able to recover Piscel Viewer ?? Any chance of sending me the file??

Thanks again.

It seems that a hard reset does not restore the programs that were on VMS...
And I can not help you on this one as I haven't got my UX (I gave it as a gift), I'm waiting for my new one...
But it should work if someone sends you the folder that is on the VMS (on a japanese UX)...

[thomasho]

Thank you so much for this great tip! So now I don't need to buy PowerRun, and I can keep using my favorite launcher, CrsLauncher, w/o running out of memory. Thank you!

[Siliconbug]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Do you know that AliasExt is not just for UX50, but it runs also on other PalmOS devices - like NX70V?
Two files,
AliasExtension.prc
AliasExtension_enUS.prc
are required. You can rip them from an UX50, and they work fine in NX73/80. For NX70, it's OK if you put files in MS, but if you wanna put files in CF....well....that's different from NX73/80. You may give it a try.

[lmame]

Can you send me the files? (I haven't got the US one because I only have a japanese unit), I will put them on my website and put a link here.

Lmame@Lmame-bug.com

Thanks ;)

[Unregistered]

You can get the jpn ones here .

http://c0mm0n.free.fr/alias/

Only the second one is langage oriented

Extracted, uploaded and posted from my ux :p

[c0mm0n]

Oops last post was by me :)

[lmame]

Thanks ;)

So the apps should be placed on a MS in folder:

PALM\PROGRAMS\AliasExt\

that's it?

[c0mm0n]

That's it :)

[Siliconbug]

Or CF in NX73/80.

[Eddy]

Thank you so much for this great tip! So now I don't need to buy PowerRun, and I can keep using my favorite launcher, CrsLauncher, w/o running out of memory. Thank you!
Hey guys, while most applications do work directly from the AliasExt folder, I've realized that there are a minority of applications that don't.

Application such as McPhling & all associated DA's.
Also data base orientated applications such as avantgo.

& some other important data application which I still use PowerRUN with eg. SplashID since I tend to backup my MS to PC more often. ;)
If they were in the internal media then I wouldn't backup much. ;)

oh, c0mm0n, I've now 11.2 free RAM! :D

[Unregistered]

AliasExt works well on TT

[c0mm0n]

Good to know :)

-> eddy : that's excellent ! i really like the aliasext way as it won't display the hugly progress bar ; i first tended not to pu small apps in the vms but put them all now as they laucn sooo fast u don't even notice they'ren't in ram !!

[lmame]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
Good to know :)

-> eddy : that's excellent ! i really like the aliasext way as it won't display the hugly progress bar ; i first tended not to pu small apps in the vms but put them all now as they laucn sooo fast u don't even notice they'ren't in ram !!
Yes... It is really surprising, I wonder what SONY tweaked in order to move data so "fast"...

And the second surprising fact is that it is working well on other devices, so it is not "UX" optimized... Where the hell SONY found that??

[gwittie]

gnaihc, regarding your original post, can you be so kind as to amplify a bit on moving apps using data bases with different creator IDs? I'm trying to get Handmap, with various maps, and Palmreader, with various books to work in VMS with shortcuts in memory. Thanks.

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by gwittie
gnaihc, regarding your original post, can you be so kind as to amplify a bit on moving apps using data bases with different creator IDs? I'm trying to get Handmap, with various maps, and Palmreader, with various books to work in VMS with shortcuts in memory. Thanks.

Basically, you need to create individual folders for the app that has databases. For example, if you have App_A with databases App_A_db1, App_A_db2, etc, you then go and create foder App_A (or something more meaningful to you) under VMS/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ and put everything inside that folder. That way, all your PRC and PDBs will be in VMS/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/App_A/. If you have another app (say App_B), just follow the same direction and put them under VMS/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/App_B/. Hope that helps.

[Eddy]

nice, I've now even got SplashID running off from VMS, but sometimes the thought of having it launch from MemoryStick feels more comforting, but then again, if you drop your UX50, you loose your MemoryStick as well with it. So doesn't matter anymore to me to keep data in MS or the virtual MS. :D

[gnaihc]

True, what I put in VMS are only those apps required after hard reset. I also have some other apps running in VMS as well. However, I put the real important apps in RAM (speed kills). BTW, I run most of my games off MS (with big databases, too). 

[dapitts08]

Gnaihc...I tried creating the directory you suggested for the program TV browser that I use...My set up on my MS is as follows: Palm/Programs/AliasExt/Tv Browser.....the TV Browser directory contains the prc and two pdbs...when I try to launch the program i get this error: fail to copy database:/Palm/Programs/AliasExt/TV Browser.prc....any suggestions

[gnaihc]

I think you've resolved the problem already (I saw your post in another thread). But just in case other people want to know, re-insert the MS usually works.

[samnjoe]

This remains an AWESOME thread!  Thanks once again for all that it brought to my UX-50's enjoyment!!

 :D

[Unregistered]

I put aeroplayer into my internal media in the Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ folder did a soft reset and everything went fine until I tried to play songs on my MS. So I decided to put AeroPlayer back into Launcher on my MS. Problem is it won't delete the shortcut so AeroPlayer doesn't show up when moved to the MS...

[Unregistered]

> So I decided to put AeroPlayer back into Launcher on my MS. Problem is it
> won't delete the shortcut so AeroPlayer doesn't show up when moved to
> the MS...

The shortcut database for AeroPlayer is write protected. Try to use Filez - this
utility can change database attributes - read only. So remove a check of read
only and you can remove it.

[neurospy]

very cool, gnaihc.
thanksful

[Dooks]

There are some pdbs that are just not happy with being moved. Anything that has creator "a68k" seems to crash when I try moving it...so I just leave them in the main handheld memory and move the prc to the aliasext. Still works...hmm...!?

[Dooks]

I moved BeyondContacts to VMS...BAD IDEA! The whole calendar database couldn't be loaded for some reason...sigh.

[Dooks]

Not to mention running things from VMS is mighty slow!

[samnjoe]

I think that it's best to leave the DATABASE on the main memory -- but the PROGRAM can move to aliasext ...

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by Dooks
There are some pdbs that are just not happy with being moved. Anything that has creator "a68k" seems to crash when I try moving it...so I just leave them in the main handheld memory and move the prc to the aliasext. Still works...hmm...!?

File with a creator "a68k" is not an actual software or database. It's created by the OS5 system emulation. You have to leave them in the RAM.

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by Dooks
Not to mention running things from VMS is mighty slow!

Sorry if it's running slow for you. Most people here think it's actually running faster than MS.

[Dooks]

Thanks gnaihc, you're right. I read up on the a68k creator and yeah it should be left alone :| Running from VMS is slower than RAM but faster than MS. I think certain apps like PIMs and picture viewers and DocsToGo are best left in RAM.

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by Dooks
Thanks gnaihc, you're right. I read up on the a68k creator and yeah it should be left alone :| Running from VMS is slower than RAM but faster than MS. I think certain apps like PIMs and picture viewers and DocsToGo are best left in RAM.

Yeah, for those daily applications which require fast access, you should leave them in RAM. VMS for me is a place to put those software that is essential regardless which MS card I am using.

[Edoras]

Originally posted by gnaihc


Warfare Inc. works on my UX. I put the following 3 files:

Warfare Incorporated.prc

htdata824.pdb

HTSFX.pdb

to /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ and it works for me.

 

Just a side note, those Astraware games with music databases can also load from MemoryStick/Internal Media.
My Warfare Inc does not work using the AliasExt folder however it works with Zlauncher's shorcut method..

Any difference using these methods??

[Edoras]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Just a warning, running programs from AliasExt on a memory stick can prevent Clie Viewer from working. The message "Cannot Launch Clie Viewer. It might be caused due to lack of free space in Internal" will appear. A workaround is to remove the stick before starting Clie Viewer, then insert the stick while Clie Viewer is running.

Running programs on AliasExt on a memory stick also appears to crash FlashPlayer when exiting.
I didn't realize this problem has been encountered very much earlier... I do have the same problem if ejecting and re-inserting the MS Pro to view all the jpg files using the Clie Viewer.. Thus, I have to resort using a 3rd part software called JPEGShow...

Anyone have solved the Clie Viewer problem?

[Edoras]

My UX50 always crashes after trialing with the Zlauncher Shortcuts..

Below is my "Log File" after Hotsync which appears to have this error (shown below).
=======================
OK MS Outlook Notes
OK MS Outlook Tasks
- Configuration Inspector::Reading: C:\Program Files\Sony Handheld\Doc\SonyMCAS\MCASCICI.txt.
-- Configuration Inspector::Input file access error = 2.
- Configuration Inspector::Updating: "C:\Program Files\Sony Handheld\Doc\SonyMCAS\MCASCICO.txt"

=============
What is this COnfiguration Inspector?

[frosty85]

uhh i got lost....

[gnaihc]

Originally posted by Edoras

My Warfare Inc does not work using the AliasExt folder however it works with Zlauncher's shorcut method..

Any difference using these methods??

 

Sorry, I think I might not be clear enough. You should put all three file under one same directory (ex: /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/Warfare/).

[Unregistered]

I tried removing a dictionary program, SlovoEd, from my aliasext folder. Now I can't get rid of the shortcut.

Do I have to try to delete it with a program like filez?

[itm]

I'm able to run Mapopolis (v5) from Internal Media, but if I try to move the "MapopolisWords" database there I get an error saying that this file must be in RAM.

Are there any other Mapopolis users out there who have successfully managed to move this file out of RAM and still have Mapopolis work OK from Internal Media? I understand that the database would need to be loaded into RAM at runtime, but I'd like to clear it when I'm not using Mapopolis....

TIA

[[CK]]

I removed everything from my MS AliasExt folder as I was having problems with Data Import not finding the stick and Picsel viewer barfing on startup - neither of these apps were on the MS, but they just decided not to work properly anyway.

60 seconds later, I have no more problems. I'm not going to bother trying again. I'd rather just go to the MS category to launch things from the MS Launcher folder than screw about with apps not working correctly.

[scarbouc]

As far as Mapopolis goes - no problem running from int memory. I created a separate directory and put all the files under it - did a reset and voila. It does seem as if I have to put my place guides in RAM however - but those are fairly small - so no big deal.

[eskasi]

Ok....I spent the last 30 mins reading all the posts from this thread...30 mins cause there is no broadband available in this country! sheesh...feel my pain...

Anyway, am I right to assume that AvantGo does not work with the AliasExt trick??? Eddy's last post seemed to confirm this. Has anyone had any luck with this?

[itm]

Originally posted by scarbouc
As far as Mapopolis goes - no problem running from int memory. I created a separate directory and put all the files under it - did a reset and voila. It does seem as if I have to put my place guides in RAM however - but those are fairly small - so no big deal.

scarbouc - could you tell me whether you have MapopolisWords permanently stored in RAM, or in the Internal Media?

Thanks

[hackel]

I read all of this thread but nobody seems to have the same problem as me.
I use aliasext a lot (40 programs all in /PALM/programs/Aliasext/rep1 .... about 29800ko). It work very well but I can't see the last shortcut created by aliasext even in Zlauncher than in the clie launcher. It is realy on the Ram because I can see *Handbase for exemple, but it didn't apear in my launcher after a soft reset. Is it because there is a limitation ??? Why is there the file (*prog1, *Progr2, ..) on the Ram and there is nothing on the screen in my launcher. This is only for the last program I'd like to put in aliasext for the other it works.

[golalmo]

I read all of this thread but nobody seems to have the same problem as me.
I use aliasext a lot (40 programs all in /PALM/programs/Aliasext/rep1 .... about 29800ko). It work very well but I can't see the last shortcut created by aliasext even in Zlauncher than in the clie launcher. It is realy on the Ram because I can see *Handbase for exemple, but it didn't apear in my launcher after a soft reset. Is it because there is a limitation ??? Why is there the file (*prog1, *Progr2, ..) on the Ram and there is nothing on the screen in my launcher. This is only for the last program I'd like to put in aliasext for the other it works.

i had the same problem. after moving to aliasext, the application no longer appear in the launcher.
the problem was that the shortcut created by the ux was *hidden*.
i unhide it with mcfiles, and it worked just fine.

[ricleo]

Wow....this is one helpful thread :) 11MB free on my UX now :D Have been experimenting around with advantgo as well, but still no go...

[SimL8r]

Here is the updated description and steps:


1. What it does to your UX?
Basically your Nice and Cool UX has build-in function just like PowerRUN (see Note1). In short, it places shortcuts of you programs, which you put them in card, to your RAM memory.

Note1: If you don't know what is PowerRUN and what it does, visit PalmGear http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&sid=325203BF-4AE5-4773-BF5C38168B21E722&prodID=15870


2. What is it good for?
As several people have discovered, those shortcuts will appear in RAM (see Note2). That means you can assign those programs to your hard buttons in Prefs panel. Also, some people have reported success in hotsyncing those programs.

Note2: Normally if you put program in card (that is in the /Palm/Launcher/ folder), they will appear in the Card category of launcher.

3. Well, I have my PowerRUN/Zlauncher/etc¡K for this ability.
Speaking of PowerRUN, it can place shortcuts in your RAM. However, if you pull your MemoryStick out of the slot, those shortcuts will still remain in RAM as if they still exist. The build-in function of UX can automatically update those shortcuts whenever you plug in or pull out your MemoryStick.

Zlauncher in this case has the same function as the build-in one. But please read on.

4. The best part of this function.
For now you only see it working for MemoryStick. However, if you use the same method in the Internal Media, you will change the way you use your UX (really!!). Those programs you put in Internal Media will remain even after HARD RESET. And you will not need any memory stick for this to work. Other usage would be putting those HUGE programs with HUGE database in Internal Media, so they don't eat all your precious RAM and are always available no matter which memory stick you are using (or use memory stick at all).

5. Still, there are always drawbacks.
You can't put anything that is larger than your available RAM. For example, if you have 7MB RAM available, you can not put a map that is 8MB in MemoryStick/Internal Media. Remember it works just like PowerRUN. It copies the programs and databases to RAM when you use it.

Although this method works for both the MemoryStick and Internal Media, Internal Media works not as well as MemoryStick. If you delete programs in Internal Media, the shortcuts will not be deleted. You have to remove them manually (see Note3).

Note3: The shortcuts have a "*" before their names when you see them in file manager. You have to uncheck the Read-only attribute before you can delete them.

6. Steps

For MemoryStick
1. Open your file manager
2. Put programs and databases in /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ (see Note4)
3. Pull out your card and re-insert it.
4. You should see them appear in RAM now.

For Internal Media
1. Open your file manager
2. Put programs and databases in /Palm/Programs/AliasExt/ (see Note5)
3. SOFT RESET YOUR DEVICE
4. You should see them appear in RAM now.

Note4: Databases with the same creator name as the program will work this way. However, if your program has a database with different creator name (e.g. MegaCalc needs MathLib database which has a different creator name), you will have to create a folder under that directory and put all of them in the same folder.

Note5: There is another directory for Internal Media. Programs in /System/Palm/AliasExt/ will also work. Also, you can remove three build-in programs from here (ClieDemo, RemoteCamera, and PhotoEditor). Remember when you remove a program from Internal Media, you have to delete the shortcut manually.

7. That's all guys! Enjoy your UX even better from now on! 

 
[Special Notes Section]

1. Remember to MOVE your programs to the MemoryStick/Internal Media and not just COPY them. UX will refuse to display duplicate programs. 

2. Internal Media = VMS, just in case you are not sure what other people are talking about "put stuff in VMS, etc, etc."

3. [Problem][solved] Clie Viewer might not open because of the lack of Internal Media memory.

[Solution 1] Only put apps in VMS and best if only put in /System/Palm/AliasExt/

[Solution 2] In MS, create indiviual folders for each applications. 

4. [Problem][solved] Flash Player will crash when exiting.

[Solution] Same solution as above.

5. Other OS5 models are supported. Just install the AliasExtension file from here:

http://c0mm0n.free.fr/alias/ (http://c0mm0n.free.fr/alias/) (only need one file depends on your model)

and many thanks to c0mm0n for hosting!hmmm I thought everone did this, I guess I was wrong, so good job gnaihc! but it was kinda common sense thing right?

[MarkVI]

The link to file is broken, can someone email AliasExtension to me?
markvi_fan@hauntedmansion.com
Thanks!!

[MarkVI]

Bump!!
Anyone, please? :confused:

[khad_o]

what do you mean email you aliasExt? aliasExt folder is built-in in UX. go to IM/palm/aliasExt. move apps that you want into folder. dont forget create sub-folder for each app. after moving do a soft reset and wallaa..for more info read this post again. you may not have understood. this is what you were looking for right? i might be wrong. and if your looking for powerrun go to www.palmgear.com. or kindly ask the ppl here for links. hope this helps:D

[khad_o]

ohh yeah do search on aliasExt. lots more post on this topic:D

[MarkVI]

I have a NX73, not a UX50. I don't have the AliasExt file in my ROM.

[khad_o]

emm i have never come across NX73 so im not really sure if you have it. like in the UX its sort of built-in that im sure of. if im not mistaken you should have it too regardless of any model but i may be wrong. its not in ROM. you know when you access your MS , there are a bunch of empty folders?? eg PALM folder etc. well if you go to MS/palm/ (use clie files) you should see a bunch of folders, one of emm should be aliasExt(if not sorry dude). when you do find it move the app into the folder/subfolders and soft reset. powerun is much simpler, im still not able to totally understand aliasExt. in my experience some apps do work some dont.

hope it works well for you

:D

[bdhu2001]

I noticed that someone deleted Picsel viewer. I can't find it in the AlisExt file. I also can't access MS Export. In another thread they mentioned that it stopped working after copying files to VFS, has that happened to any of you. My PC reads memory stick so it hasn't been a problem, but to get to the VFS, I'll need to use it. Any suggestions on deleting Picsel viewer would be helpful.

[Eddy]

I noticed that someone deleted Picsel viewer. I can't find it in the AlisExt file.
Use McFile too access InternalMedia, click to directory /System/Palm/AliasExt/PicselViewer/, that's where all the files are located at.

Then use FileZ & delete the file *PicselViewer from RAM, perform a soft-reset then you should be alright. :)

[bdhu2001]

I've done that, but I'm not finding it. It could be that when I first tried the information I deleted everything that bugged me. But they still show on my palm desktop and if I tap it, the full file shows back up. The picture of Clie Demo and Photo Editor disappeared, but I still have pictures of Picsel viewer and Clie Memo.

[tommyhlc]

Can anyone please tell me where/how to get a copy of AliasExtension.prc?

Looking for it for a long time... All the links are dead.....

Tommy

[tommyhlc]

The link to file is broken, can someone email AliasExtension to me?
markvi_fan@hauntedmansion.com
Thanks!!
ME TOO!

tommy@vairo.com

[bdhu2001]

Can someone explain to me how they got Netfront modded into AliasExt? Also how did you recognize the regular Netfront from the modded when you moved files?

[kyvlle]

It's mentioned on a post in this thread that AliasExtension runs on other OS5 devices. I have followed the instructions here on my NX70:
- install AliasExtension.prc into RAM
- put programs on MS in the /PALM/Programs/AliasExt folder

But this doesn't do anything on my NX. Am I doing anything wrong or what?

[Dooks]

It seems to me like having programs stored in AliasExt (not even running them - just storing them) drains the battery a lot faster?

[kyvlle]

Dook, that is a valid concern. But I would just like to experiment w/ AliasExt. If it works it becomes a bonus. If the battery drain is not worth the functionality, AliasExt goes :)

[sportfisio]

Up! I think this all newbies should read this! Just found it this weekend, and think its a full-necessary-clue for every UX50 owner!
Nice work!

[GadgetGuru05]

Thanks alot.... i will try it...

[sportfisio]

Working FULLY PERFECT WITH ALL APPS TRYED! Nice tip!

[chacalau]

Does anyone else have a problem when using the AliasExt thing on a Memory Stick with the Clie 3D Launcher where when the memory stick is removed all the settings for which group an application belongs in, in the launcher, are lost.

So when the memory stick is re-inserted, all apps in aliasext are in the 'Unfiled' group, (even though i just spent an hour getting them nicely organised).

Only the 3D Launcher has this problem. Other Launchers like Appshelf seem to hand the remove - reinsert memory stick fine, and remeber which category an app belongs in.

[nicolfa]

Is there any other people having battery drain from useing the aliasext shortcuts? Just curious.

[chacalau]

Does anyone else have a problem when using the AliasExt thing on a Memory Stick with the Clie 3D Launcher where when the memory stick is removed all the settings for which group an application belongs in, in the launcher, are lost.

So when the memory stick is re-inserted, all apps in aliasext are in the 'Unfiled' group, (even though i just spent an hour getting them nicely organised).

Only the 3D Launcher has this problem. Other Launchers like Appshelf seem to hand the remove - reinsert memory stick fine, and remeber which category an app belongs in.

Nobody else has this problem? or does everybody use a different launcher?

[antoinepierre]

Nobody else has this problem? or does everybody use a different launcher?I've no problem with AliasExt but I don't use clié 3D launcher.

Palm launcher is nice and you should try PetitLaunch, very efficient and free.

[m0nkeyb0y]

Is there any other people having battery drain from useing the aliasext shortcuts? Just curious.

There will always be a greater battery drain when using AliasExt or any other card-based storage for their apps. This is because reading data from the cards draws more power than reading from internal ROM....

[nicolfa]

Ah cool, well with warpspeed most of my battery issue are dealt with. I love the AliasExt more than using PowerRun (which is a great app too). So far the UX has been a wonderful machine.

Typically I can play an hour and a half of mp3's with only about a 7% drain on the battery ... using JAmerican's converted Media Launcher.

For my default launcher I use AppShelf ... I like it, its very configurable and I get wallpapers :)