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amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 05:54 PM
Im using the D-link 614+ router with Webpro. Im getting a DNS error. The error message: DNS error. Please check coverage,sheck that the Host Address in Preferences is correct, and try again. In the advanced setup im using the same DNS address as the router but will not connect to WEBPRO



Thanks


Art

ArK
02-06-2003, 06:10 PM
I had the exact same setup b4 I sold my nx70 on ebay. When I got my 614+ I had problems at first. Basically what i did was just go into the setup wizard again and add a 64 bit wep key to the router and clie and it worked fine. Also sometimes resetting the 614 works.

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by amaeda3144
Im using the D-link 614+ router with Webpro. Im getting a DNS error. The error message: DNS error. Please check coverage,sheck that the Host Address in Preferences is correct, and try again. In the advanced setup im using the same DNS address as the router but will not connect to WEBPRO



Thanks


Art

Art,

Initially try with everything set to AUTO and SSID of "Any"

Are you connecting to the LAN at all?

If not, the first things to check are the WEP, IP, and SSID.

If you do connect to the LAN then check the following on your Clie

The gateway is the address of the router, the same one you'd use to view it with your web browser. I use a Linksys, but the Dlink should work too. The DNS's are from your ISP, subnet mask is 255.255.255.0.

Below is sort of a convoluted checklist.

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=2594

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 06:29 PM
Hi,

I did set WEP at 64 bit and reset the 614 3 times. When I used NETFRONT I was only to get webpage for Dlink. The network says im connected. So I get the DNS error using Webpro and only get the the one page when I use Netfront. When I use netfront the WIFI card flashes as though it's transfering data but timesout. Im not sure wether to use Netfront or Webpro



Art

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 07:11 PM
Art,

If you can connect and you can access the router's page, then your WEP and SSID should okay. The browser you use should not matter initially. Net Front has other issues, but that is getting ahead fo things.

Make sure the power save is unchecked on the Clie and leave it there. At best it will slow your connection speed down.

Some routers and WAPs in the past needed firmware updates, at least Linksys did.

What are you using for the web connection, DSL/Cable Modem?

In order to get mine to work, I had to have all settings set manually. Some have had no problems with everything set to auto, but it seems to depend on what equipment is used.

The proper gateway and DNS addresses are critical, as they steer your card to the WAN/WEB side of the router.

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 07:20 PM
Hi,

The power save is unchecked and have updated the firmware for the D-link. I have tried auto and manual mode. The only thing is that im not on DSL or Cable im on a dialup.

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by amaeda3144
Hi,

The power save is unchecked and have updated the firmware for the D-link. I have tried auto and manual mode. The only thing is that im not on DSL or Cable im on a dialup.

Okay on the dialup! What DNS addresses did your ISP give you? With a dialup, I think you would need your Login ID and Password for the ISP to authenticate somehow, where I am on a cable modem and no logon/password is required.

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 07:33 PM
The DNS address I have is 198.81.20.134. Right now im using the static set but will change it to login/password and see if it works



Art

UI018397
02-06-2003, 07:56 PM
Art,

Do you have another computer connected to the router ? Does it connect to the internet ?

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by amaeda3144
The DNS address I have is 198.81.20.134. Right now im using the static set but will change it to login/password and see if it works



Art

Only one DNS? Most have two, but I don't know if it's mandatory. When I view the log screen in wireless section of the Clie, it always reflects two DNS's.

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 08:01 PM
Art,

You will need the DNS's plus your login and password. The login and password will be needed irregardless of it being a static or dynamic connection.

ArK
02-06-2003, 08:02 PM
theres also a firmware upgrade you cna use.

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 08:04 PM
Yes the main DNS 198.81.20.134 and the secondary is set at 0.0.0.0. I only have one PC on the router and using the NX70 with the WIFI . Right now im using netfront again but I get a network timeout trying to get to any site.

UI018397
02-06-2003, 08:30 PM
So you are using your PC to dialup and have the network card hooked onto the WAN port of your router ??
From your PC, can you ping the NX ?

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 08:35 PM
I have pinged the router address. How do you ping the NX

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 08:39 PM
I have pinged the DNS address which timed out

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by UI018397
So you are using your PC to dialup and have the network card hooked onto the WAN port of your router ??
From your PC, can you ping the NX ?

Your right, I was thinking that Art was going through the router as I have using a cable modem. With a dialup, I am not sure how he has it setup. Some routers can have a modem in it, but I don't know what the Dlink has. Art needs to explain exactly how he has it hooked up and trying to route it.

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 08:56 PM
I have my phone line connected to my PC. The RJ45 line is connected from the Ethernet card to the D-Link router. I have pinged the DNS address and it timed out. On the NX I get a network time out.



Art

UI018397
02-06-2003, 09:09 PM
The DNS server need not response to Ping packets (but not likely), so don't be alarmed.

Is your RJ45 connected to the WAN port of your D-Link router ?

I assume you can open out the router config page from your PC, right ?

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 09:13 PM
The line is connected to the D-link router. Yes I can open the config page for the router and run the wizard setup


Art

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by amaeda3144
I have my phone line connected to my PC. The RJ45 line is connected from the Ethernet card to the D-Link router. I have pinged the DNS address and it timed out. On the NX I get a network time out.



Art

Okay, that's a different ball game, I think you need ICS(internet connection sharing) setup on the desktop PC, plus make sure any firewalls are disabled for now. Additionally, I am not sure about the cable necessary to tie into WAN side of the D-Link. You may also need one of those reverse RJ45 cords to connect it to the PC.

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 09:22 PM
The firewall is disabled and I will try the Windows ICS. My question is will ICS work with win98?



Art

UI018397
02-06-2003, 09:26 PM
I think Win98 2nd edition has ICS.

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 09:33 PM
The other question I have about ICS is will it work with AOL?

UI018397
02-06-2003, 09:43 PM
You have to try to find out !

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 09:43 PM
I can't tell you as I have never used AOL.

amaeda3144
02-06-2003, 10:11 PM
Okay, I'll give that a try and let you tomorrow. Need to watch the strange life of Michael Jackson

n2ifp
02-06-2003, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by amaeda3144
Okay, I'll give that a try and let you tomorrow. Need to watch the strange life of Michael Jackson

Definitely strange, but that's him...

amaeda3144
02-07-2003, 12:24 PM
I tired ICS but had a conflict. Downloaded Avantgo and having a problem with DNS. Where do I find the DNS



Art

UI018397
02-08-2003, 05:15 AM
What did ICS conflict with ?
Of course you have problem with DNS !
Your PC is not forwarding requests from the router to the Internet yet !
That's why you need to have ICS set up properly first.

amaeda3144
02-08-2003, 11:02 AM
My ICS is set up with connection using AOL adapter. Network adapter Sony i link 1394 adapter. When I use the Fast Ethernet NIC I get a conflict with the D-link router.

SINCE I DON'T HAVE DSL OR CABLE WILL THIS CAUSE A PROBLEM

AOL dial up
Home PC
NX70 with Wifi

The Dlink Ip address is set to Dynamic

SSID set at Any
channel 11
WEP enabled 64 bit

Lan setting

IP address 192.168.0.1
subnet mask 255.255.255.0

amaeda3144
02-08-2003, 11:13 AM
Sorry, my ICS network is pointing to ethernet card not the i link on previous post

applejosh
02-08-2003, 01:26 PM
ICS sets up your internal network card to be 192.168.0.1. I'm guessing that the D-Link router uses this as it's address as well. You say the D-Link address is set to dynamic, but is this for the WAN interface? If so, you have to set the LAN interface on the D-Link router to something else (you can just use a static IP address to something in the same subnet, eg. 192.168.0.200). Turn off the DHCP service on the router so (hopefully) DHCP requests from the NX go to your Windows box. How I have a Netgear router setup at work is to have nothing connected to the WAN port. Everything is connected to the LAN side of things. DHCP services are not running on the Netgear router, but DHCP requests are serviced by the server. I also set up the LAN IP address of the router to be a static IP outside of the DHCP scope used by the server. This setup might work with the D-Link; I can't be positive. (I had some really bad experience with D-Link equipment at work a few years ago - 95% failure rate on their hubs, switches, and routers, so I stopped using all things D-Link. It's just my personal preference.)

HTH

amaeda3144
02-09-2003, 01:06 PM
Im getting tired of the dlink. If I use the NETGEAT 814 would I need a network bridge since I use a dial up to AOL.

n2ifp
02-09-2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by amaeda3144
Im getting tired of the dlink. If I use the NETGEAT 814 would I need a network bridge since I use a dial up to AOL.

Art,

Doublecheck that you have the right cable. Your basically hooking it up in reverse to what I have with the cable modem. Some setups require a CAT5 cable crossover cable, it's wired differently that the straight CAT5 RJ45 cable. I am not saying this is the problem, but go back over your documentation and web site FAQ's.

I think you would need the network bridge from the dial-up modem to the Ethernet card. For the time being even if the 1394 iLink is tied in, shouldn't hurt anything. I am limited in my knowledge of AOL, normal ISP's give 2 DNS addresses.

Initially it took me 3 days to get mine up and running. I certainly had less hair on top when I was done. 

amaeda3144
02-09-2003, 01:35 PM
Right now I have the RJ45 from the Ethernet to router network1 there is nothing connected to the WAN

n2ifp
02-09-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by amaeda3144
Right now I have the RJ45 from the Ethernet to router network1 there is nothing connected to the WAN

Well, you got me, I don't see how it will work that way.

applejosh
02-09-2003, 02:08 PM
Well, I can't say if switching routers would help. It could be a configuration issue, or it could be a router problem. Here's how I would set it up. It may be the same as you have now, so if it is, I'm at a loss. My understanding is that you have your network set up as such:

AOL<---- PC (w/ ICS) <--- DLink Router <---- NX

The DLink router is basically acting like a wireless access point only. Since nothing is hooked up to the WAN port, it's not actually doing any routing.

Windows box:
ICS enabled. Internal network card connected to a LAN port on the router. Static IP address is already set to 192.168.0.1 for that address. Link lights are lit on both the network card and the router port that is connected to the PC.

Router:
DHCP server turned off (important). Internal network address set to 192.168.0.250 (unless you have something else set to that address). WEP turned off for now (this just eliminates some complexity from the troubleshooting process).

NX:
WEP turned off. SSID set to any. IP info all automatic.

You might want to download and install Lan Status, an app which (although it doesn't operate in discover mode for war-driving) will tell you your connection info (such as IP address, DNS, gateway, etc.) on your NX. It is available on one of the TRG User Group Yahoo! Groups page (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/T-U-G/files/). Unfortunately, you'll have to join the group to have access to the files section. This is just optional, but it may help us determine what kind of IP info the NX is getting.

amaeda3144
02-09-2003, 02:09 PM
That's what I thought so I'll go get a network bridge and see if that will work

amaeda3144
02-09-2003, 03:20 PM
When I run the Wixard there is the WAN IP static adressing. Since I don't have the WAN connection I take it that I wouldn't be able to connect to the net?


Art

UI018397
02-09-2003, 10:21 PM
Not sure if you can use the router in your configuration, aka. unconnected WAN port.

Personally, I'd connect the PC to the WAN port and let it perform what it is intended to. ie. NAT/PAT the WAN interface to the WiFi interface. With Win/ICS enabled, you will be doing double NAT/PAT... but I it shouldn't matter...

amaeda3144
02-09-2003, 10:31 PM
Im gonna take back the DLINK and get the netgear 814 with the PE102 network bridge and hope this takes care of the problem or just get a network bridge.