Ripping DVD to MS

[SwissUser]

This got lost, anybody care to redo an explication

[Unregistered]

Here is my totally newbie step-by step process using programs you can find on the web for free. All of these programs can be found at: http://www.doom9.org/

The finer points of tailoring the final product I will leave up to you to experiment with. I do not claim this gives you the very best picture, but it wasn't bad for me. I just started playing around with all this myself, and I am sure there are slicker ways to do things, but it will get you started.

Step 1: Rip DVD to hard-drive.
I use DVD Decrypter.
This will create files with file endings IFO and VOB. Put the DVD into the player and run decrypter. It will usually default to ripping the entire movie. If you only want to do part of a DVD, deselect files as needed. Click on the DVD to HD icon and let it run for a little while. It usually takes under 20 min.

Step 2: Convert files from step 1 to audio and video files.
I use DVD2AVI.
This will create a WAV file and a D2V project video file.
Run program, click on File, open the folder with your step 1 VOB files. It will default to selecting all of them to convert usually. (*_1.VOB, *_2.VOB, etc.) Click OK and you will return to the main screen. Click File again and choose save project. Now wait a little while again as it does its work. It usually takes under 30min.

Step 3: Convert WAV and D2V files from step 2 to MPEG-1
I use TMPGEnc.
The project wizard will pop up first. I select NTSC Film setting, click next, and select the D2V file from step 2 as the video file and the WAV file as the audio file then click next. You may wish to use the MPEG tools option under Files and the merge and cut option to trim off the opening and ending credits, etc. to make a smaller movie file. (You can do this editing later with the converted file if you wish.) This is the step that can take 6-20 hours depending on your movie size and computing power.

Step 4: Convert the MPEG-1 to Clie viewable file
Use the Image Converter program that came on your Clie CD-ROM.
Run the program, add the movie file(s) you created with TMPGEnc. You can choose low, med, or high quality files. I find low or medium quality works for me. The better quality means more memory used on the stick though. Click on the send files to memory stick button when ready. It will look for your memory stick. If you want to create the new file on your hard-drive, just pick that drive instead. It will create a folder with the movie file in it which you can copy to your memory stick using MS Import later.
This step can take under an hour.

I hope this helps. The best settings and parameters to use I will leave to the video experts on this forum to suggest. I am still figuring it all out. There are good step-by-step guides to using the above-mentioned programs on the download site as well.

Cheers.

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[Fullcode]

That was my post above, oops.

[Tek Phreak]

for a full movie it's hard to get good quality on a 128mb ms. You need at least a 256 one to get good quality. So now, you'll have to settle for poor to fair quality. Unless you only rip part of it, or smaller sized video. Right now, the video viewing on a clie just isn't advanced enough. We need a player that supports divx encoding and .avi playing. Once we get that we can fit a good quality movie on a 128mb MS. Anyone wanna code a new player?

Enjoy.
-Tek

[Fullcode]

Tek Phreak is entirely correct that the average movie will take at least two 128mb MS to watch with decent quality using the Sony Image Viewing software. I have a feeling that the videophiles looking for ultra-portable movie viewing will shell out for the larger memory sticks.
I too would love to see a more advanced player that could handle the latest divx encoding.
Still, it makes for a great impression with all our nontech buddies when we can pull out a movie player from our pocket on the bus or airplane.

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[Benvolio]

Does any body have suggestions as to how to split a movie file so that it can span more than one memory stick?

I got a bunch while they were on sale during Christmas...

Thanks!

[Fullcode]

One way to split a movie is to take the MPEG-1 file you generate and edit it with TMPEGEnc.
Load the program, exit from the wizard pop up screen, and get into the MPEG tools option under Files.
Click on the cut and merge tab. You will be able to preview the entire movie.
Set the { and } buttons to where you want to start and end the file. For example, you could set the end of file "}" button at the half-way point in the movie, presumbably where it wouldn't disrupt an action scene or important dialogue. You would then save this as Movie part 1.
Load the original MPEG-1 movie file back in and this time set the start of the new file "{" button on the half-way point and set the end of file near the end credits. Save this as Movie part 2. Convert part one and two using your Sony Image converter and you will have two movie files that can each be transferred to a memory stick.

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[JTK]

Here comes my little Tips :

Download dvdx and install it
Customize your Input settings
For your Output settings :

User for Audio Bitrate 128 Kb/s

!! Volume don't exceed -> Custom size = 570 MB

If DVD finised use the Image Converter -> Seetings Movie Standard
Normaly you can 1 hour to one 128 MB Stick, if you are ready watch the great Video on you NX :-)))

Greetings
Helge

[T800]

Hi, thanks for the great post, preparing for my NX to arrive so this is really useful. BUT - I have a question, when I DVD2AVI the ripped section of a movie, it stretches the wide screen up into 16:9 making everything "tall". I can't find an option to keep existing aspect ratio!? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance for your help
T800

edit:

Ok, searched through some dig ed forums and now realise that you have to "set (in TMPG advanced settings) source aspect ratio in the advanced settings (16:9), plus video arrange mode to "full screen while preserving the aspect ratio "

Hope that helps others to rip some films to their NX's

T800

[reggae]

something that has to be understood:

there is an *inverse* relationship between file size and compression quality. there is also a *direct* relationship between processor power and compression quality.

better compression (divx) requires higher processor power...
lower compression yields a bigger file size if the quality is to be the same.

when the processing power is limited (ie 200mhz clie), basically we're talking 1GB memorystick, shorter movies, smaller screen utilization or crappy quality there's just no way around it.

[reggae]

i didn't know how to log in...

[Tek Phreak]

Originally posted by reggae
something that has to be understood:

there is an *inverse* relationship between file size and compression quality. there is also a *direct* relationship between processor power and compression quality.

better compression (divx) requires higher processor power...
lower compression yields a bigger file size if the quality is to be the same.

when the processing power is limited (ie 200mhz clie), basically we're talking 1GB memorystick, shorter movies, smaller screen utilization or crappy quality there's just no way around it.

I deffinately tend to disagree. I made a 121 mb full movie using divx encoding under an avi extension. It was the movie hackers and it was in very good quality. I viewed it on my 206mhz Ipaq with no problems what so ever. That processor didn't even have the arm technology that our clie now has. 200 mhz should be no problem at all to run the movie and in a manageable file size.

As for the guy that wanted to put it on two memory sticks, use virtual dub to seperate video, they allow to encode parts of the video, and then convert the .avi file you'll get to a .mpg with tmpeg.

Enjoy.
-Tek

[SwissUser]

WOW, thanks everyone I'm overwelmed

Now all I need is an MS Pro............

[reggae]

is there somewhere you can upload your movie to so that i can grab it? i'd like to check it out on my clie and jornada. btw, what was the aspect ratio and dimensions?

[Tek Phreak]

that would be warez... i could try to take a clip from it... but that will take some time... email me at
chosenbygod910@hotpop.com
if you really wanna see it. And remember you will only be able to view it on your jornada because clie can't support the .avi extension.

Enjoy.
-Tek

[spinteews]

BTW GUYS...

Dont forget to TRY out mIRC and go to server "Autobotnation.com"

then join channel Clie...

They have a couple of people serving there and you can download Moives/Cartoons/TV Episodes/Anime from there and then just copie them onto your MS.

WOrks like a charm.

recent movies i've seen there are Matrix/Final Destination/Princess Bride and a couple otheres.... Some good classic cartoons remade and some good anime.

mIRC would be one a good place to trade movie files with and chat.

check it out

[omu]

Watching a movie on my clie was my first mission with the NX70.
I also converted a DVD to mpeg1. I converted it with Sonys ImageConverter and low quality.

I got 60 Min. on 60 MB, after watching it the battery still was 75%.

Now I did some comparison with movie-watching on the laptop (mpeg1 with MS Media Player).

Result: I would say you miss out on 75% of the pictures details by going for low quality. But you can still manage to get the story, at least for me...

High quality on the other hand takes up LOADS of space, 14 Min. HQ was something about 60 MB I think...

Sometimes I even asked myself if 10 hours of converting was really worth it for 50 Minutes bad quality video - but there is one good argument posted over at pocketpcthoughts.com: its w-b.i.c.
(why? because I can), its real fun.

[FuzzyDicePHL]

Originally posted by spinteews
BTW GUYS...

Dont forget to TRY out mIRC and go to server "Autobotnation.com"

then join channel Clie...

Yah, this is a great way to try out movies on your NX.

One word, tho: It'd been years since I'd done any IRCing, and it took me a little while to figure this one out.

Whenever I'd try to DL a file w/ .mqv as the extension, my mIRC would automatically reject the file. Turns out you have to go to DCC Options, in the "server" section, and add the .mqv filetype so it won't be "ignored."

Just so's ya know. Drove me crazy for a lil'bit until I got it. Now I can watch stuff on the train during my daily commute! YAY!

FDPHL

PS: thanks to those nice people on #clie who run their fServes. :)

[reggae]

thanks for the DATA omu. totally backs up my experience with compression and quality. i have yet to see Tek's file but i'm betting that at 121MB for a full movie, we have different opinions on levels of quality.

i'm a fan of a show that was cancelled after its first season called space: above and beyond. the files for this one hour series clocked in at about 140MB each. save for the fact that i LOVE the content of this show, the viewing experience with respect to image quality was absolutely sub-par. the compression used? none other than divx.

if tek shows me this movie and it's good quality meaning i can see good detail (with audio/video synched), i'll be incredibly surprised.

[Tek Phreak]

do you have aol IM or mIRC? My email wont allow me to send a file larger than 1 mb. I want to show... you will be surprised...
Lemme know. email still chosenbygod910@hotpop.com.

Enjoy.
-Tek

[tee10tan]

When I use the TMPGenc program, I got the D2V file but not the wav, how do I get the wav file?

[khyasad]

If MrSpic is reading this, please can you PM me ... I am very interested in how you converted the CSI episodes :)

Thanking you kindly ....

[Unregistered]

My tmpg will not accept the format of dv2 from dvd2avi. What am I doing wrong?

[Narniahopper]

After a lot of hard work (and a little help from the locals) I finally managed to start downloading The Princess Bride on mIRC. Looking forward to watching it on my Clie at some point.

Thanks for getting me started.

[beachjunkie]

-This is great stuff guys, but it's really over my head. I'm interested in getting some movies on my new NX, but I'm also new to the sceen and don't know anything about converters and such. Is there a how-to manual for "dummies" out there?
Ps. yes, your all really smart.
-Jay

[conflagrare]

I've been looking for mpeg encoders for days... this is GREAT! thanx guys!

[anitanium]

here (http://home.arcor.de/gnassel/imagec.zip)

its a program that allows you to adjust the IC1.0 audio and video quality

remember that on a 128MB memory stick, only 123MB is usable, which is 129.4mb. This is the scale the program uses. so if you want to convert a full movie to your memory stick, use 129.4mb.

personally, i find 32kbps audio is horrid. 64 is acceptable. but at the cost of video quality. whatever suits you.

only IC1.0 is supported
IC 1.1 will give you an error

what i did to bypass this was to install just the .exe of IC1.0 over IC1.1