JackFlash for NX73/80 *Which apps don't work!

[stronggeek]

Most of my apps are working in flash along with any database I've thrown in there so far!

The only apps that have not functioned properly while residing in flash for me are

*Avantgo -It will sync okay of course, and load then run, but it crashes on exit.

*300 Bowl -Will crash when launched.

Now I actually don't need either of the apps to be stored in flash, because I now have more ram then I'll ever need to accomadate Avantgo and I run most games from the card anyway.

I just wanted to see how the apps would function in flash and as of right now and with my current set up I have no probs. :)

Edit: I have many other apps in flash and yes my flash rom is just about full and everything from AcidImage to Agendus and Teallock is kicking it safe N sound flash rom so I was not compelled to list the apps that are running, but if you feel incline to do so, then by all means list them

PS. it is nice to Avantgo loading so quickly in ram though. I even turn full graphics back on! :)

Updated: April 27, 2004

Apps that don't work in flash.
Advantgo 
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
BrainForest 3.0 
SetAutoOff

Games that don't work in flash
300 bowl
Monopoly(works for YTTAN so far)  

PS.  I just grabbed this updated list from the middle of this thread, so if I'm missing some apps, you guys can let me know and also check the other posts later

[rldunn]

Monopoly won't start.

Plucker will start fine, but when you go back to home and pick a different file, it crashes.

[n2ifp]

Most apps work! When one doesn't, you try another, no biggie!:)

[ricleo]

Add splashphoto, resco viewer to the "doesn't work" list.

[stronggeek]

I get an error and have to soft reset with Backupman in flash.

I normally stored in the launcher directoy on my cards, but I've been updating and switching info within my CF and MSs that I decided to keep Backupman on board and when inst in flash I'd get 10% of the way through an the error.

 

[n2ifp]

Backupman works in Flash, but it still annoys me about having a copy on the card too and it must be in the /Palm/Launcher folder.:(

[DonWon]

Graffiti ShortCuts

[saigoncoco]

One question:

Do you know ADVbackup?

Because I test every backup program and this one is my favorit
from 1 years.
Full OS5 It works fine on CLIE, m50x, HandEra and TRG pro(with OS 3.5.3)
New feature:
1. Auto Rename for the Invalid filename.
2. Auto Backup in the specified time daily.
3. Changeable backup directory.
4. Save/Load settings for the selected files.
5. Write error message to log file.
6. View/Delete log file.
7. Hide/Show ROM files.
8. Hide/Show MS Mount files.
9. Hide/Show Power Run shortcut.
10. Empty backup directory before Auto Backup.
ADVbackup work perfectly in my NX80 and in flash.
Restoring database is realy clean, no problem appear.
Link: http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&prodid=18733

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Backupman works in Flash, but it still annoys me about having a copy on the card too and it must be in the /Palm/Launcher folder.:(

Odd, for it does not function in for me. :(

I must have a software conflict as I'm surprised no one brought this issue up before me.

Thanks for the feedback n2ifp!

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by saigoncoco
One question:

Do you know ADVbackup?

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I do, but haven't tried it in a while.

Does it do a total restore and will it function in flash?

[Tixx]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Backupman works in Flash, but it still annoys me about having a copy on the card too and it must be in the /Palm/Launcher folder.:(

Works for me too. Having double icons is a bummer. Though I have an NX70.

[Dropzone]

Wordsmith dont work. It gives a fatal exception. Well, a soft reset....

[n2ifp]

Wordsmith works well in Flash for me, do not put anything in Flash that is not read only. I have the spell checker and thesaurus there too. Sometimes, I have found with JackFlash, is if you don't succeed at first, try, try, again... :)

[Burns]

n2ifp, what clie are you using? My Wordsmith crashes when I try to use the spellchecker or thesaurus on my NX80

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Wordsmith works well in Flash for me, do not put anything in Flash that is not read only. I have the spell checker and thesaurus there too. Sometimes, I have found with JackFlash, is if you don't succeed at first, try, try, again... :)

Wordsmith: I have all 3 files Working in flash for me also (definitely one of the biggest advantages of using JF for me).

Backupman I now have working in flash as well. It will not work with codiver wallpaper in flash- for me anyway.

Thanks for the feedback on that otherwise I would have quit trying!

[n2ifp]

No problem Bro!

[rldunn]

Originally posted by Tixx


Works for me too. Having double icons is a bummer. Though I have an NX70. Also works fine for me. I just put the MS version of the icon on a hidden tab so I don't have to see it.

[n2ifp]

That's fine if you use tabs, but I hate tabs, therefore I don't use them!;)

FYI, When I put Net Monitor in Flash and run it in the VG area. If I go to select the VG keyboard, then Crash says crash and my Clie resets after a few seconds. I moved it back to RAM and all is well again.

[rldunn]

Originally posted by n2ifp
That's fine if you use tabs, but I hate tabs, therefore I don't use them!;)Even if you don't use tabs, you can still use this approach. Just bring back tabs for a second, create a new tab, drag the duplicate icons to the new tab, then click on the new tab, and select the Hide tab option. Then, set tabs back to None in ZL Prefs.

Or, if you hate tabs so much that even the above would make you feel agitated, you can do the same without ever displaying tabs. With your normal setup, use Menu-Tab to create a new category. Do a T&H on the duplicate icons and move them to this category. Then with the category displaying, go to Menu-Tab-Tab Properties, and choose Hide Tab, and it will be gone (or you may need to go to Menu-Tab-Show/Hide Hidden Tabs to toggle it away).

[n2ifp]

Rod,

Thanks, I'll give it try later!

Me and tabs never got along, LOL :)

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by rldunn
Also works fine for me. I just put the MS version of the icon on a hidden tab so I don't have to see it.

Great idea!

I have hidden tabs for background apps and Sony apps I've replaced (ie: Address Book, Date Book, Memo) but sometime foget about the option to hide em.

Thanks for the reminder.

[RetAF]

For some inexplicable reason, TealPhone has recently decided not to work if it's in Flash, but will work fine in RAM. Up until about a week ago, it worked fine in flash. I'm baffled, but I simply moved it to RAM and all is well. Between Flash and MS, I have plenty of room, so I'm not worried.

Using NX70V

[stronggeek]

Doesn't work in flash.

[YTTAN]

Anyone has a complete list of unworkable apps with Jackflash?

[n2ifp]

The problem is, not all users have the same problems. For example, some can run Wordsmith from Flash, others can't. At the moment I don't have a plausible explaination for it.

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by n2ifp
The problem is, not all users have the same problems. For example, some can run Wordsmith from Flash, others can't. At the moment I don't have a plausible explaination for it.

You mean diff device got diff. problem?

I don't think same device have diff. problem unless it is caused by internal conflict from diff applications.

;)

[YTTAN]

By the way, I still got about 10mb each from rom and ram.

Due to some large game which can't be flash into rom like - GTS racing and Agression - more 1 mb each.

Still need to depend on powerrun 1.3b5...too bad.

Still trying to fill the flash rom...first time got problem to fillup the flash rom.

Any suggestion which big files to put it into flash rom?

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by YTTAN
Anyone has a complete list of unworkable apps with Jackflash?  

YTTAN We are or at least I'm trying to make a list from this thread.

I think Larry's referring to the fact that we all have different setups on our NX73/80's and so at times we're going to get different results with running progams in flash.

For instance Wordsmith and its Dict/Thes apps should work for everyone in flash if it's working for one of us.

It works for Larry, me some of the others, but none for some, so therefore those who aren't getting it to work must have a software conflict and/or different setting... somwhere.

I for one am not going to take everything out of ram and flash to check every conflict and besides most apps are working in flash anyway.

But I'm hoping by posting here we can see if others are having the same issues and then we can decide to go on trying or realize that this is one app that just won't function in flash or causes other apps to malfuntion while in flash.

Avantgo is one app that no one that I know of has been able to make work in flash (my soft-resets on exit from the app).

And you stated Agression won't work in flash and your right about Part 2, but Part 1 will run in flash and it's strange but every once in a while (and it may depend on what's stored in flash or ram at the time- I'll check it out later) I can get Part 2 to function in flash with Part 1.

You should post your own findings so we can add them the list though.

 

 

[breakfastchef]

I would like to ask a slightly off topic question(s).

 Does anyone use JackSafe? I am not totally clear as to why I might want to use it.

Can a backup from MS done with BB or MS Backup restore the flash after a hard reset without a desktop hotsynch? The JackSafe .txt mentions the need to do a full hotsynch after a hard reset before apps in flash will be visible.

Just trying to get a handle on this animal.

On my NX 80, so far, I have moved the following apps to Flash and all work fine.

Agendus, HanDBase,  ALauncher, AcidImage, powerOnePersonal, SmartChart, Documents (DTG), DataVizMail, ZL Manager, ZReaderLite, Okey, Fonts4NXPics to Go (DTG) and BackupBuddy. Now I need to figure out what to put in all that free RAM.

Larry

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by breakfastchef
I would like to ask a slightly off topic question(s).

 Does anyone use JackSafe? I am not totally clear as to why I might want to use it.

No, you don't need and can't use it.

JackSafe is for OS 4 units 

Can a backup from MS done with BB or MS Backup restore the flash after a hard reset without a desktop hotsynch?

Yes, you need JackFlash or Flash-Enable in your MS's launcher though.

n2ifp and Ridunn comment midway through this thread in other threads on how it works, but basically just restore from the stick and open up JF or FE from the MS launcher.

I keep FE in my flash and open JF from the MS or CF when I need it.

The JackSafe .txt mentions the need to do a full hotsynch after a hard reset before apps in flash will be visible.

Either a hotsync or MS/CF backup will do.

Just trying to get a handle on this animal.

On my NX 80, so far, I have moved the following apps to Flash and all work fine.

Agendus, HanDBase,  ALauncher, AcidImage, powerOnePersonal, SmartChart, Documents (DTG), DataVizMail, ZL Manager, ZReaderLite, Okey, Fonts4NXPics to Go (DTG) and BackupBuddy. Now I need to figure out what to put in all that free RAM.

 

You're doing great too Larry, but just wondering, how come you don't keep Zlauncher in flash as well.

Or is your flash already full with other stuff?

[ricleo]

Apps
Advantgo
Backupman(confilcts with codiver wallpaper in flash-strongeek)
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
WordSmith(For some)
Plucker

Games
300 bowl
Monopoly

[ricleo]

Hi guys, maybe you all can just copy and add to the list as new discoveries are made.

YTTAN, I can run GTS RAcing, both the main app and the datapack fine from flashrom. Sugggestions on what to keep in ROM? I currently have 2 bibles and 4 E-books in flashrom, in addition to all the other apps and all my games. :D

[breakfastchef]

Originally posted by stronggeek


Thanks oh wise Strongeek person.

By the way, I am running ZLauncher from flash as well. Missed adding it to my list.

Larry

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by ricleo
Hi guys, maybe you all can just copy and add to the list as new discoveries are made.

YTTAN, I can run GTS RAcing, both the main app and the datapack fine from flashrom. Sugggestions on what to keep in ROM? I currently have 2 bibles and 4 E-books in flashrom, in addition to all the other apps and all my games. :D

Thanks for info as I don't dare to move the data file of gts as the jackflash had warn me that most database file is not workable.
But I had try it. It's really work.

Do you notice that there is a half sec paused in blank screen when you launch this game(whenit is inside the rom)?

Is it ok for the flash to withstand the GTS unpacking and packing process when you start and end the game?

Or the GTS just unpacking and packing the data to ram only?

[ricleo]

I'm not too sure why there's a one second delay either, but there is. Even when I run the GTS direct from RAM with the datapack in RAM as well, there was the unpacking and packing. I don't understand why there's unpacking and packing even in RAM, but it works the same when its in flash or RAM

[ricleo]

Actuallly, all databases can be moved to Flash as long as you know the databases are read only, and will not be altered in normal use...that's why databases like ebooks and bibles can be safetly kept in R\Flash rom as well.

[YTTAN]

ok I see. But the most I can get free ram is still remain at 13-14mb = 13448k and my rom left 5270k. My MS Pro free space increase from 45mb to 60mb.
Still trying to move files to the appropriate place.

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by ricleo
Hi guys, maybe you all can just copy and add to the list as new discoveries are made.

YTTAN, I can run GTS RAcing, both the main app and the datapack fine from flashrom. Sugggestions on what to keep in ROM? I currently have 2 bibles and 4 E-books in flashrom, in addition to all the other apps and all my games. :D

Great idea bro and I should have done this in the first place.

And as far as databases go I move many read-only into flash as well.

YTTAN and ricleo, you guys make me want try the GTS racing game now that you've brought it up! :)

[JoshW]

What I want to know is, can I load JackFlash into Flash???

[ricleo]

Nopee...JackFlash can't be put into Flash.

[williepalm]

Apps that work 
AG Connect(Mobile link)                              [/size][/font]

BugMe

Calc On Top

CityTime

Contacts4

Datebook5

DateBk5 Help

Daily Bible

eWallet

fMMLPanel(for FunSMS)

Fonts4NX

HappyDays

Icons-Datebook4

Kinoma

LightNzip

McFile

MemoPlus

Metro

MobileDB

PocketBar

QuickWord

TealDoc

TimePlace

TomeRaider

VeriChat

Weather Manager

WorldMate Pro

ZLauncher
<B>Games</B>&nbsp;(that works)
[font=Verdana][size=2]Bejeweled

Billiards

Insaniquarium

Pinballz

&nbsp;

[Rob]

Willie Palm, are all those apps that *don't* work for you in flash? Lots of those work for me...

[williepalm]

Now now, very irresponsible of me. Sorry about that.
All those apps works in flash. But hmm, then again, this thread is about which apps don't work, isnt? Shall I edit my post?

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by JoshW
What I want to know is, can I load JackFlash into Flash???

You can put Flash Enable in Flash and JackFlash in the Palm-Launcher folder on the MS like I do. The Flash Enable readme says you can too.:)

[neogin]

why don't get megabowling instead of 300 bowl ?

monopoly doesn't work here either ..

[ricleo]

Heez.... I think that if everyone posted what works in Flash memory, the list will go on and on and on forever and ever..so lets just stick to the apps that do not work list? Kekeke.... recap....

Originally posted by ricleo
Apps
Advantgo
Backupman(confilcts with codiver wallpaper in flash-strongeek)
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
WordSmith(For some)
Plucker

Games
300 bowl
Monopoly

[Siliconbug]

My NX73 is not stable when I put textplus.prc in flash, and textplusdb.pdb in RAM. In this case, my NX73 meets frequent "RESET". However, after I move textplus.prc into RAM, no more problem.

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by neogin
why don't get megabowling instead of 300 bowl ?

monopoly doesn't work here either ..

Well, I got no problem with megabowling and Monopoly.:D

[williepalm]

Apps
Advantgo
Backupman(confilcts with codiver wallpaper in flash-strongeek)
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
WordSmith(For some)
Plucker
BrainForest 3.0

Games
300 bowl
Monopoly

[saigoncoco]

Originally posted by stronggeek


I do, but haven't tried it in a while.

Does it do a total restore and will it function in flash?

I’m so sorry Stronggeek for my late Answer , but I only come back in my house. (I working in Vietnamese and Cambodia provinces)
My ADV Backup is in flash and working very well.
Before, I have this prog. In my palm 505 flash rom and always work perfectly

[tifosiv122]

I could not get these to work:

WorldMate Pro
Jpeg Show

Erik

[williepalm]

Worldmate Pro works on mine.

[tifosiv122]

Originally posted by williepalm
Worldmate Pro works on mine.

Hmm...it crashes when i go to currency exchange...i'll try it again.

Erik

[tifosiv122]

Seems to work now...that's odd...thanks.

Erik

[stronggeek]

Add ChessTiger to the list of doesn't work in flash.

It appears that most of the apps that don't function properly in flash don't cause a reset on start, but instead on exit, at least for me.

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by saigoncoco


I’m so sorry Stronggeek for my late Answer , but I only come back in my house. (I working in Vietnamese and Cambodia provinces)
My ADV Backup is in flash and working very well.
Before, I have this prog. In my palm 505 flash rom and always work perfectly

Hi saigoncoco, not a problem.

I disappear everyoce in while with work, trips and all.

Thanks for the feedback.

Backupman is working fine in flash now.

I had a software conflict.

Thanks Again!

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by ricleo
Heez.... I think that if everyone posted what works in Flash memory, the list will go on and on and on forever and ever..so lets just stick to the apps that do not work list? Kekeke.... recap....



Why not create a usable list too and treat it as a guide so that other users can try it confidently once they see the application is inside the usable list.:)

[ricleo]

Hmmmm.....usualble list is possible, but will make this thread almost unreadable. I have over 50 apps on my Clie. If every user posts everything they use in Flash that works, This thread will be practically unreadable with a list that stretches to 3-4 times the length of a usual thread.

[neogin]

hey .. how to make monopoly work ?

[williepalm]

Originally posted by ricleo
Hmmmm.....usualble list is possible, but will make this thread almost unreadable. I have over 50 apps on my Clie. If every user posts everything they use in Flash that works, This thread will be practically unreadable with a list that stretches to 3-4 times the length of a usual thread.

Quite true, but if someone does start to post apps that works, i think it should be started on a new thread.

[tifosiv122]

Can you move the DBs? Now it seems that I have 4-5MB of used RAM space of just DBs that I would like to move, but I don't want to crash the system...

Erik

[squeff]

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Can you move the DBs? Now it seems that I have 4-5MB of used RAM space of just DBs that I would like to move, but I don't want to crash the system...

Erik

Are they read-only?&nbsp; If not (i.e., they can get updated), then no.&nbsp; You cannot put anything that might get updated in Flash.

If you are 100% sure that they cannot get updated, then give it a try.

[n2ifp]

If it crashes do a soft reset. Being read only is a MUST! no matter what file or files you stuff in Flash. I have several DB's in Flash. One way to tell is the files dates. If the date changes, it's a tipoff that the DB is updatable and not suited to use in Flash!:)

[tifosiv122]

Originally posted by n2ifp
One way to tell is the files dates. If the date changes, it's a tipoff that the DB is updatable and not suited to use in Flash!:)

Ahh good tip...honestly, we should have a thread on DBs that work...that should be a short, but helpfull list.

Erik

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by neogin
hey .. how to make monopoly work ?

Not sure lei ... I never do anything special, it just work in the ROM.:D

[Hobbit]

How about using a poll?
Maybe one of the Clie "Pros":) can post their working Apps, then we can 'vote', and after awhile, the a list of safe Apps will emerge and those of us that can't get a safe app to work can compare set-ups?

[stronggeek]

Apps&nbsp;that don't work in flash.
Advantgo&nbsp;
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
WordSmith(For some)
Plucker
BrainForest 3.0

JPeg Show

Games that don't work in flash
300 bowl
Monopoly

ChessTiger

Edit: Originally I had issues with Backupman and Codediver Wallpaper in flash but through all the flash to ram and ram to flash shifting this issue has been resolved itself and since I was the only one experience this problem I took it off the list.

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by ricleo
Hmmmm.....usualble list is possible, but will make this thread almost unreadable. I have over 50 apps on my Clie. If every user posts everything they use in Flash that works, This thread will be practically unreadable with a list that stretches to 3-4 times the length of a usual thread.

I agree with Richard on this one because most of my apps and databases actually do work in flash which&nbsp;is why&nbsp;I wanted to form a list that wouldn't work in flash as it should be quite a bit shorter.

Also since so many apps work with flash there's plenty enough room in ram now to accommodate the apps that don't.

With all of us power users trying so many different apps in flash, I'd say all things considered&nbsp;with a list this short (so far)&nbsp;JackFlash is fantastic.

I even tried putting apps i flash that I realy didn't need in flash to see if they would work! :)

You know you did too! :)

Any way, just MHO.

&nbsp;

[ricleo]

Hi stronggeek! haha, Thanks for standing by my statement as well :D By the way, wonder why... but Jpeg show works fine for me in Flash. Are you using the version 1.10 or version 1.11?

[tifosiv122]

Originally posted by ricleo
Hi stronggeek! haha, Thanks for standing by my statement as well :D By the way, wonder why... but Jpeg show works fine for me in Flash. Are you using the version 1.10 or version 1.11?

I was the one that couldn't get 1.11 to work...now it does. It seems some don't work on the first try but work the second try...odd.

Erik

[stronggeek]

Apps&nbsp;that don't work in flash.
Advantgo&nbsp;
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
WordSmith(For some)
Plucker
BrainForest 3.0


Games that don't work in flash
300 bowl
Monopoly

ChessTiger

Jpeg show is taken off the list for it indeed does function in flash. :)

[tifosiv122]

I think someone said they have monopoly working in flash, or am i mistaken?

Erik

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by tifosiv122
I think someone said they have monopoly working in flash, or am i mistaken?

Erik

Erik, I think your right.

I'll look back in the thread, but I'll someone else post the next changes so it doesn't look like I'm hoggin the thread. :)

[ricleo]

Hi Erik, it seems that monopoly only works for YTTAN...I wonder why... it doesn't work for me, doesn't work for ridunn... there was a complaint in another thread that monopoly doesn't work in flash too....so, I think it shld remain in the don't work category until more people manage to get it to work?

[n2ifp]

Hmm, keep getting looged out tonight...:(

Gee, have you monopolized the thread again?:D

Go to Jail, but do not pass go and collect $200.00

BTW, didn't you start this thread? Then monopolize it all you want...

[ricleo]

Apps&nbsp;that don't work in flash.
Advantgo&nbsp;
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
WordSmith(For some)
Plucker
BrainForest 3.0


Games that don't work in flash
300 bowl
Monopoly(works for YTTAN so far)

ChessTiger

Jpeg show is taken off the list for it indeed does function in flash. :)

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Hmm, keep getting looged out tonight...:(

Gee, have you monopolized the thread again?:D

Go to Jail, but do not pass go and collect $200.00

BTW, didn't you start this thread? Then monopolize it all you want...

Good one Larry.

But just remember, I'm the car this time! :D

&nbsp;

Richard, thanks for doin that list thang!

[ricleo]

Yeap Strongeek, not a problem, just doing my part to help make this an Oligopoly unstead of a monopoly :D

[williepalm]

Found a new bug.Those using Zlauncher. When JF is moved to card, and when you tap and hold an app(moved to flash with JF) and select "info" , it'll crash. But when I moved JF to ram and back to card, it fixes the bug. But after a while the bug comes back. Hmm..

[n2ifp]

Did you try keeping Flash Enable in Flash? That's what I do and it's okay per Brayder's Flash Enable readme file. JackFlash or Flash enable have to be in RAM or Flash ROM for system management functions! JackFlash will also restore the Flash after a hard reset and it's what I have used from the MS.

Info works just fine as long as Flash Enable is in Flash ROM, applies to both my NX70 and NX80.:)

JF is stored in the Palm-Launcher folder and yes, I am using ZL v3.60, build 030901 which sent directly from ZZ Tech.

Hope that helps!

[evaoni]

5 pages to scroll through..screw that...but I know that the Clie Net Monitor VG doesn't work in flash..if you swipe (status bar) to the Net Mon VG..then switch to another VG by swiping again, it'll have a memory dump and you gotta soft-reset...

[ricleo]

Apps&nbsp;that don't work in flash.
Advantgo&nbsp;
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
WordSmith(For some)
Plucker
BrainForest 3.0


Games that don't work in flash
300 bowl
Monopoly(works for YTTAN so far)

ChessTiger

Jpeg show is taken off the list for it indeed does function in flash. :)

Warfare Inc...talken off list.. :(&nbsp; Hmmmm...strange....it got my Clie into a reset loop yesterday, and I had to go for a warm reset to solve the problem. Now I've tried it again and it works, well, only the main PRC at least..

[tifosiv122]

Warfare inc works for me in flash...the program at least

Erik

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Warfare inc works for me in flash...the program at least

Erik

Yea, Warfare works in flash for me also.

And yes, Clie Net Monitor does cause a soft reset when switching from it.

[YTTAN]

what I really need is the Warfare data file.(at least 2mb)

[Rob]

Originally posted by YTTAN
what I really need is the Warfare data file.(at least 2mb)

Yes,&nbsp;the data file with all those graphics is enormous -- does the game modify it at all?&nbsp; It would be great if they could provide a static&nbsp;file so we could put it in flash...&nbsp;

[williepalm]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Did you try keeping Flash Enable in Flash? That's what I do and it's okay per Brayder's Flash Enable readme file. JackFlash or Flash enable have to be in RAM or Flash ROM for system management functions! JackFlash will also restore the Flash after a hard reset and it's what I have used from the MS.

Info works just fine as long as Flash Enable is in Flash ROM, applies to both my NX70 and NX80.:)

JF is stored in the Palm-Launcher folder and yes, I am using ZL v3.60, build 030901 which sent directly from ZZ Tech.

Hope that helps!

Works flawlessly now. Thanks for the help.

[pruss]

I don't have JackFlash, so I haven't tested it with Plucker, but I've just fixed a bug (or three of them!) that was preventing Plucker from running in ROM. Now it runs from ROM in Pose at least. If you feel adventurous (and have made a backup, etc.) you can try it. Get a CVS snapshot build of Plucker 1.5 from http://www.plkr.org/index.plkr?a=snaps . Make sure the datestamp on the snapshot is at least 10 am on Sunday (the snapshot builds are made hourly, so my changes will only show up in about half an hour). Let me know how it works for you.

[pruss]

I don't have JackFlash, so I haven't tested it with Plucker, but I've just fixed a bug (or three of them!) that was preventing Plucker from running in ROM. Now it runs from ROM in Pose at least. If you feel adventurous (and have made a backup, etc.) you can try it. Get a CVS snapshot build of Plucker 1.5 from http://www.plkr.org/index.plkr?a=snaps . Make sure the datestamp on the snapshot is at least 10 am on Sunday (the snapshot builds are made hourly, so my changes will only show up in about half an hour). Let me know how it works for you.

[stronggeek]

Documents To Go won't sync if the 215k Documents file is stored in flash.

It appears all&nbsp;other associated DTG apps can be stored in flash though.

At least with ver. 6.004

[polimedia]

Donno why but it works here, ver. 6.004

[stronggeek]

Thanks polimedia, I'll try it again.

It's strange thouh because I coildn't DTG until I moved the "Document" to ram.

[stronggeek]

Thanks polimedia, I moved it back and now it works!

Cool.

By the way, how do you like DTG 6.004 so far?

So far it's working pretty good for me.

[polimedia]

Hard to say why, but I confirm it it works.
JFlash is giving me some headhache, occasionally, I am not sure yet it is JF, but after I started using it I get many more crashes.

[polimedia]

Wow I think it rocks, I used quickoffice, but DTG is really cool.
I had version 4, so upgrading to 6 makes more sense than from version 5 (same price).
I don't use the conduit much, but this is definitely better than QOffice. Viewing images also is great. Any idea of how I could use a double dictionary for spellcheck? I write in En and Italian and this is a feature of Mobile word I found in no other application.

[YTTAN]

Viewing image in native word is easily by using the free Piscel viewer.

[polimedia]

Well true, it's great to see the file with its real proportions, but not as good to read a few pages doc.
Of course it's up to the use you do with your cliè, I use it more and more as notebook replacement and being able to exchange docs on the road is great (not to mention that with Piscel you cannot edit them). Piscel is an incredible tool BTW

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by stronggeek
Thanks polimedia, I moved it back and now it works!

Cool.

By the way, how do you like DTG 6.004 so far?

So far it's working pretty good for me.

You always have to factor in those little Gremlins... :)

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by polimedia
Wow I think it rocks, I used quickoffice, but DTG is really cool.
I had version 4, so upgrading to 6 makes more sense than from version 5 (same price). Same here. I had what ever came on my cd a couple years ago, but really didn't care for it though I really liked the ideal of being able to sync docs to the card and have categories on the card and/or stick, but now I think for me it juat may be worth it.


I don't use the conduit much, but this is definitely better than QOffice. Something that I definitely need and use just everyday (Just one reason I'm so greatful to you for letting me know it woked in flash and so soon too)

Viewing images also is great. Any idea of how I could use a double dictionary for spellcheck? I write in En and Italian and this is a feature of Mobile word I found in no other application. I'm still at the experimental stage with this app, but if find a way you'll be the first to know.&nbsp;

To both polimedia and n2ifp, I can gurantee you that I probably have something in flash (database or app) that shouldn't be there, but the available flash provided by JF&nbsp;is worth the trouble, gremlins and all. :)&nbsp;

And YTTAN, as far PV goes I do like it and use it on occassion, but being able to edit files is a must for me

All is woking fine... now. ;)

Once again, thanks for your help and feeedback.

[polimedia]

Yes JFlash is great just ..... I am fighting to get a stable and ramfree cliè back again :o)

[xyeta]

I just bought JackFlash last night (NX80V), and it is AMAZING how much more memory you have to work with! I have not had a malfunctioning application yet, and this thread has seen to that!

What an amazing tool! If you don't have it yet...buy it now!!

[clie_wannabe]

are you saying that jackflash now works with the nx80?

wow... im a little out of it already... been pretty busy at work lately

-@nx80v

[ricleo]

woah...haha...i have had it for quite some time now....a month plus to be more precise.... but for the NX80v runnning japanese OS, there will be less memory freed up by jack flash.(US 15mb freed) due to the japanese language support and stuff...

[ngkevi]

Anybody know how to Infared files from Clie NX70 to Laptop computer?

[outdoor]

I do believe all apps that have desktop conduits (e.g. Wordsmith, DTG, Splashdata, worldmate) will not work in flash. Its associates, (e.g. Word to go, sheet to go, etc) will work properly in flash.


I'm surpirsed that no one mentioned that Flash player cannot be moved to flash.

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by outdoor
I do believe all apps that have desktop conduits (e.g. Wordsmith, DTG, Splashdata, worldmate) will not work in flash. Its associates, (e.g. Word to go, sheet to go, etc) will work properly in flash.

I sync with wordsmith and dtg in flash all the time.


I'm surpirsed that no one mentioned that Flash player cannot be moved to flash.

That's because it's&nbsp;in the rom

Edit: Are you thinking of a different model perhaps (other than NX73/80)?

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by ngkevi
Anybody know how to Infared files from Clie NX70 to Laptop computer?

I do it all the time, especially when I don't have many files to download, but if you do a search first and don't find the info, I'll point you in the right direction.

First make sure your notebook cans see the ir port on the nx. If the little icon does not pop up on your taskbar and/or you don't hear the little sound than you need to make sure the pc is ready first.

Good luck

[ricleo]

yuppie. Lolz....wonder which version of the NX73/80 he's using that he'll need to move the FlashPlayer to flash :p

[stronggeek]

Hi Richard, it's been so long since the NX70 days, but was the flashplayer in ram or rom on the NX70?

Because I know we had to install netfront into ram or flash on the 70.

But I can't remeber with the flashplayer.

[ricleo]

Hi stronggeek :) The Flashplayer was also in ROM for the NX70, it was netfront that resided in RAM which we moved to the flash :D But maybe outdoor was talking about the FlashPlayer update for the NX70v and NZ90...anyway, this thread is about compatibality with the new Nxes :)

[stronggeek]

Yea, I guess he must mean the updates.

[ricleo]

Which is why no one mentioned that the Flashplayer can't be moved to flash using jackflash for the nx73/80. Cuz we don't need to...

btw as a rule of thumb, all updates meant to replace apps residing in ROM have to be kept in RAM and can't be ran from flash.

however, IF you wanna insist on keeping the new updates in Flash, there is still a way. Rename the apps using Filez before transfering the apps to flash memory(be it flashplayer or audio/movieplayer) change it to a different name...voila, your NX will see 2 of the same apps now instead of one. ie 2 * flashplayer icons or whatever....this way you can use both the old and new versions of the apps depending on which icon you click.

[ricleo]

so stronggeek, you still with the NX80v? I'm so tempted to get a UX now that I have a BT SonyEricsson T610 man...

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by ricleo
so stronggeek, you still with the NX80v? I'm so tempted to get a UX now that I have a BT SonyEricsson T610 man...

I sticking with this beauty until someting with a bigger screen than the UX comes along or the new OS.

I don't use BT (My service doen't offer BT phones yet) but if I had just bought a BT enabled phone I'd be temped, I'd probably still wait for the next big one from Sony.

My NX80 is perfect for me and I finally have tweaked just right!

[stronggeek]

I also just bought a new notebook (HP zd7000) and so I have plenty to keep me entertained until the latest and the greatest comes out(you know it will have BT for you)

Richard, I sincerely think the Sony is going to kick out something special... soon!

I might have jumped camp for the T3, but I do have a cybershot, ms pro 512, and other MS items and I don't like the slider.

The screen and the battery life on the UX is too small and too short for me and the NZ... well the size is too big and the battery life is too short on that also.

But the NX80 is just right and if I didn't think something else was coming out soon I'd most likely purchase the BT MS.

Good luck whatever with what ever you chose my friend!

[stronggeek]

Apps&nbsp;that don't work in flash.
Advantgo&nbsp;
DeepReader
SplashPhoto
RescoViewer
TealPhone(RetAF)
BrainForest 3.0&nbsp;
SetAutoOff


Games that don't work in flash
300 bowl
Monopoly(works for YTTAN so far)

Took WordSmith(seems to be working for most) and Plucker(Pruss&nbsp;indicated that the new versions work in flash and indeed they do!)&nbsp;off the "Don't work" list.

Added SetAutoOff to the "Don't work" list.

[LiteBuLB]

i think i read somewhere stating that when teallock is in flash, it will continue to provide security lockout even after hard reset, which renders the whole device useless.

[ricleo]

Originally posted by LiteBuLB
i think i read somewhere stating that when teallock is in flash, it will continue to provide security lockout even after hard reset, which renders the whole device useless.

can anyone verify this? On my NX, I have to use flash enable to reactivate flash memory after a hard reset before any apps in flash memory will show up before any MSBackup. SO I do not think teal lock will still be in operation after you hard reset and before you reactivate flash memory and do a msbackup restore.

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by ricleo


can anyone verify this? On my NX, I have to use flash enable to reactivate flash memory after a hard reset before any apps in flash memory will show up before any MSBackup. SO I do not think teal lock will still be in operation after you hard reset and before you reactivate flash memory and do a msbackup restore.

Hi Richard, I can verify that you are absolutely correct! :)

I&nbsp;store Teallock in flash and after a hard reset nothing in flash appears until restore from a hotsync or ms/cf has been executed.

Therefore the device can't be rendered un-useable because the unit will not see Teallock&nbsp;in&nbsp;flash.

[gotaclie]

Dumb questions! Which version of JackFlash for the MX73 are you folks using? I just bought what I thought was what I needed from Handango and it turned out to be version 2.6 which will not run on my NX73!
Thanks for the help!
gotaclie

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by gotaclie
Dumb questions! Which version of JackFlash for the MX73 are you folks using? I just bought what I thought was what I needed from Handango and it turned out to be version 2.6 which will not run on my NX73!
Thanks for the help!
gotaclie

The download link gives you&nbsp;Jackflash 2.6.

3.0b10 is what you need.

Go to Brayder's site and request the&nbsp;latest vers.

They'll send the info you need to download it.

[LiteBuLB]

Originally posted by stronggeek


Hi Richard, I can verify that you are absolutely correct! :)

I&nbsp;store Teallock in flash and after a hard reset nothing in flash appears until restore from a hotsync or ms/cf has been executed.

Therefore the device can't be rendered un-useable because the unit will not see Teallock&nbsp;in&nbsp;flash.

But there is an option in teallock, under settings, which allows u to store a db in flash,

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by LiteBuLB


But there is an option in teallock, under settings, which allows u to store a db in flash,

LiteBuLB, I know about that and at one point in time thought I understood the use of this option, but now I'm not so sure.

Do you know it's use right off hand?

Is it suppose to make Tealock visible after a hard reset?

I'll check later, but I thought it had a different function.

[broth]

I noticed the other day the after I put the application for Documents to Go into flash they reappear in ram. I notice that hte hotsync seems to reinstall these applications.

Anyway to avoid these showing up in Ram after each hotsync?

[RHicks12]

Let's See...What do I have in Flash that is not listed already:

CoolDA
StandAlone's DateMan
Filez
HanDBase 3
MyBible
PalmReader 2.4.2
QuickSheet
SimpleClock DA

Did not work in Flash:
SilverScreen
PercentCalc
Rand McNally's StreetFinder

[bonus1331]

Do Apps. with associated alarms work? Looking at Agendus and WA Clock?

[stronggeek]

I know Agendus works because I use it with alarms in flash now.

You can't move WA Clock to flash because it already resides in ROM.

[coolride]

When I put Snappermail in Flash, it works fine until you send an email, then the program exits. No crashes or anything, but it's annoying when you send more than 1 email and the program keeps closing after you send an email.

RHicks12:
I have Rand McNally's StreetFinder moved into Flash and have no problems. What problems are you experiencing?

broth:
What version do you have? I had problems with DTG5 as well... not sure how to correct it with that version. I now have DTG6 Premium Edition installed and have the "Documents" program in Flash. I haven't had any problems up to this point. Even put English_am.lex (English Dictionary), WordToGoFonts, & SlideshowFonts, all of which are DB's, into Flash and haven't had any problems.

[davidkow]

Originally posted by stronggeek
The only apps that have not functioned properly while residing in flash for me are

*Avantgo -It will sync okay of course, and load&nbsp;then run, but it crashes on exit.

I contacted Brayder (the folks that make JackFlash) about this and they informed me that it's due to a particular call AvantGo makes on exit:

Unfortunately, this is a compatibility issue within AvantGo that we cannot fix. They are using a PalmOS function called MemPtrRecoverHandle. This function does not work for applications placed in Flash. There are simple work-arounds, but they have to do them in their program.

FYI, Just a few hours ago, I just came across a program called Avantage which is supposed to allow AvantGo to run directly from the Memory Stick. Haven't tried this yet and don't know how much of a speed hit it will take but AvantGo's pretty big (about 1M for the program and another 2-3M for downloaded pages) so it would be nice to get it out of RAM.

--David

[rhicks12]

Originally posted by coolride
RHicks12:
I have Rand McNally's StreetFinder moved into Flash and have no problems. What problems are you experiencing?

The version I have is the one that comes with the Clie Car Cradle. So I don't believe it is the full version which comes if you went to BestBuy and bought it off the shelf.

As to what it is doing...nothing. It just will not function from within Flash :(

Rob.

[nowis]

Can i place pelleca's modified audioplayer and movie player into the flash? the versions which allow play on the CF slot...

[anitanium]

yup
you have to change the name of the prc first
and maybe the version number in filez

i have audioplayer in ROM right now, but i don't use it since we have aeroplayer

[nowis]

thanks for the tips...

i need to rename the .prc program to another name as long as it does not clash with the one in the rom or i must rename it according with the one in rom? As for the version, what version should i use?

Since u mention u can listen to aeroplayer, can i put the mca2 into the flash?

[anniebluesky]

Does not work in ROM:
[list=1]
QuikBudget
PocketMoney
[/list=1]

Works in ROM:
[list=1]
Agendus Pro
iSilo
DayNotez
Shadow
Bejeweled
HandyShopper
SplashPhoto
eWallet
IconManager
BackupMan
FindHack
OKey
KeepWide
Capitalizer
[/list=1]

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by davidkow

I contacted Brayder (the folks that make JackFlash) about this and they informed me that it's due to a particular call AvantGo makes on exit:&nbsp;

--David

Thanks for the info davidkow.

Though I don't use Avantgo anymore I always wondered why it didn't work properly in flash and now we know why.

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by davidkow

I contacted Brayder (the folks that make JackFlash) about this and they informed me that it's due to a particular call AvantGo makes on exit:&nbsp;

--David

Thanks for the info davidkow.

Though I don't use Avantgo anymore I always wondered why it didn't work properly in flash and now we know why.

[tenderidol]

Whewwww.... just finished reading 10 pages of messages. Little dizzy now :)
I recently got a WL110 card for my NX80, and with the addition of NF3.1, e-mail software, downloaded e-mails, etc, etc, I am now considering buying JackFlash to make more room... One naive question: Since the Flash Memory is being used by applications such as NF or Picsel Viewer (to almost to 100% while running), does it affect the performance of these applications when the Flash ROM is full already?

[meir87]

Nope. The NX80 also has 16mb of heap for them to use.

[stronggeek]

tenderidol, you went a long time without using JF!

Now you're really going to love your NX80!

When Brayder was able to crack open the flash on the NX73/80 it made the unit perfect for me!

[oyakodon]

Noted that no one mentioned LauncherX; I'd tried it in Flash and the Clié crashes.

Hey stronggeek! If you've been taking notes on what works or doesn't work, could you perhaps edit your original post and add a list of what people have submitted? Though this is a cool thread it'd be nice to not have to weed through what now is ten pages of posts to see if an ap has been reported (or for a newcomer to the thread like myself to get caught up on what people have found).

Thanks!

Kevin

[stronggeek]

Great idea!

I will do it.

But I almost want to give someone else my password and let them edit my post and do it though. :)

[anitanium]

just put up a new post

[meir87]

Hopefully the one of the mods will sticky it.

[oyakodon]

Originally posted by anitanium
just put up a new post

*nod* new post would work as well, especially for those who have been tracking this thread (since the link you get emailed points you to the last page anyway). Thing is, though, somewhere around page 5 of the thread someone *did* put up a revised list, and now it's buried under five more pages of posts.

At least the edited posting would have the edit date, so a reader would know when it's updated through then s/he could just click back to said date in the thread and catch all the updates. Since it's been over half a year hopefully most of the popular aps that might be affected have been reported already, so--in this odd, ideal world I seem to live in : ) --just one update at this point in time (or even in a few more months) should hopefully cover the gamut

Kevin

[tenderidol]

Originally posted by meir87
Nope. The NX80 also has 16mb of heap for them to use.

Great!!!&nbsp;For some reason I thought they were the same &nbsp;:p

Is the most recent version still the 3.0b10&nbsp;for CLIEs?

Thanks!

[meir87]

I know there is a b12 and there might be a b15.

[stronggeek]

I edited my 1st post and updated the list.

[tenderidol]

Originally posted by meir87
I know there is a b12 and there might be a b15.

Brayder web page shows b14. I think I will go with that one ;)&nbsp; Thanks!!!

[tenderidol]

One more question before I start moving stuff to FlashROM: How worried should I be after a possibility of a hard reset? Currently I back up everything in RAM using BackUpMan... How about Flash ROM backups?
Thanks for your help. My apologies if this was addresses before...

[meir87]

Flash ROM doesn't get erased in hard resets.

[tenderidol]

Perfect!!!

[oyakodon]

Originally posted by meir87
Flash ROM doesn't get erased in hard resets.

And for this reason you need to be a tad more careful when reinstalling everything (though--and someone correct me if I'm mistaken--there's a utility associated with JackFlash that will assist in this?). After I had to hard reset I noted that I had nearly maxed out my internal memory after hotsyncing. figured out that all the aps I'd moved into flash ROM were still there, but also that the same aps (because they're in my backup directory) got loaded into RAM as well. Still not hard to restore, but I had to get rid of all the excess stuff.resyncing created.

Kev!

[madmaxmedia]

After you've moved a bunch of stuff to Flash, the best thing to do is delete everything in your backup folder (or just move the contents to be safe), then immediately Hotsync again. Preferably with 'SyncAll' installed on your CLIE.

The flash files won't get backed up, so a future hard reset recovery will be clean.

[tenderidol]

Great advice from you guys... Thanks!!!
I already started to move stuff to Flash. It is amazing how much extra room you can make (I know this is old news to all of you, but I just started to use it :)
As a matter of fact, I had to do a hard reset today with no apparent reason (My NX80 was stuck at the "Palm Powered" screen after a crashed HotSync). I chose to do "individual" restore from BackupMan and avoided having duplicates... then also edited the HotSync backup folder on PC before syncing.

[JuRD]

Small freeware program - Banner does not work because it stores the banner message which is editable.

[mamut]

I have a series of Russian/English dictionaries in my NX80's flash, no problems. I can add (really, really rude) words as I go, no problem there, either. They'd eat up my RAM right quick.

[ir803]

did you guys get jackflash then the upgraded V3 beta, coz the version I just purchased from handango is 2.6 and I didn't read enough to know it wasn't going to work, I have been using the basic jackflashlight for a while without any problems, but I am now using Resco veiwer/editor and the more free memory I have the larger the images are imported from their original size. Problem is at the moment when i try to open jackflash I get a message saying SYSTEM UNTESTED. this application has not been tested with this version of the palm operating system please check brayder for a newer version.
AGGGHHHHHHHHHH. :mad:

[tenderidol]

Just e-mail them and they'll send you a link to upgrade to 3b...

[ir803]

cool, thanks, thats sorted, Now big question. I have installed pelaca's CF drivers for camera movie player and audio player, they take up alot of ram but can't be moved to flash because the original apps are in the rom can I move the originals out of rom and then on to a card out of the way and replace them with the new versions ?? at the moment I have moved all but a few small files and still only have 7.4 meg free..... I want more MORE i Say!!

[meir87]

You can't move anything out of rom that you didn't put in. If you want them in flash then rename them

[ir803]

is that possible without affecting how they work ?? could I for example just call them audioplayer_2 and cliecamera_2 move them to rom and still use them instead of reverting back to the originals in the rom.

[ir803]

just tried it anyway, changed cliecamera to cliecamera_2 using fileZ then moved it to Flash, then started clie camera and it reverted back to the original one without the CF extra's.
So how else (if at all) can it be done ?? I'm running out of things to move to flash and the CF friendly apps take up a big chunk of memory.

[Wytnucls]

Change the version ID with Filez to a higher number, to override the ROM App!

[ak7774]

Does anyone know directions on running epocrates with Jackflash? I've done a lot of searching and it seems it CAN be done but no where does it say HOW to do it.

ak

[ir803]

I've had a few problems running YiShow from flash, when i hit one of the catagory tabs the clie crashes.

[CLiENX]

Can I change the version ID for Netfront 3.1 so that I can move it to flash???? Or, it is not possible at all to moves it there???

It really eating up my memory...sigh

PLS ADVISE

[ak7774]

I think you just need to change the filename with "filez" and then you can put it in flash. Do a search for it. Different instructions on how to install it have been posted multiple times.

ak

[CLiENX]

Yea rite ... the only instruction I happened to find is moving it to MS through ZLauncher .. but I might missing somethin here (through my Search). Anyone has any experience moving the Netfront 3.1 to Flash???? PleaseADVISE..

THNX

[ak7774]

This took me less than a minute to find:

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46436&highlight=netfront+3.1

You need to use filez to change the version ID from 1 to 2 and then you can move it into flash.

ak

[CLiENX]

ooopsss.........slip of my tongue... thnx ..next time..i'll be more careful on searching....thnx again

[markda2000]

I am having problems with Snapper Mail and Jack Flash.

I have even disables bluetooth toggle and disasociated it from Agendus 8. but it is having none of it.

I always get the error message that Snapper is in use and cannot be moved or deleted.

Anyone else in the same boat?

[LiteBuLB]

Ive successfully loaded WLAN drivers to flash, will KB100 drivers work in flash too? If yes, which file should i move?

[spidey]

I've moved the bluetooth drivers...

[shashi]

Hi,

Is it possible to move jackflash into flash itself ?
so that everytime at hard-reset, I have jackflash ready for me :) ?


Cheers,

[meir87]

You still won't be able to see JF (or your other flash) until you install JF into RAM.

[stronggeek]

I don't think you could move JF into flash even if you tried to.

[ricleo]

Hi guys, actually, it's possible to have JAckflash residing in flash :) I think i had it in flash when i used the NX80. However, your still need to have flash enable residing in your MS to enable your NX80 to view the programs residing in flash rom in times of a hard reset.

[stronggeek]

Hi guys, actually, it's possible to have JAckflash residing in flash :) I think i had it in flash when i used the NX80. However, your still need to have flash enable residing in your MS to enable your NX80 to view the programs residing in flash rom in times of a hard reset.

Hi Richard, how are you?

I'm using the TH now more than my NX80, but in the past I could never move JF into flash.

How did you move it to flash as I would think JF would be unable to move itself to flash when it's open anyway and as far as I know there is no other program that can move items to and from flash.

Just wondering how you did it?

[ricleo]

Hi stronggeek, always nice to hear from ya :) I'm enjoying my last month of free and easy life before starting work in august....just came back from a graduation tour recently :)

hmmm...for the JF thingy, i can't remember clearly how i did it, or if i did it actually :p perhaps it was flash enable that i moved into flash? HEhehe.... in anycase JF won't really be useful in flash anyway :) plus it takes up so little space. Just leave it in the MS? hehehe...

[stronggeek]

Hey Richard. Congratulations!

I just wanted to confirm that JF can't be moved to flash in the first place so that whether or not it functioned in flash was a moot point to shashi or anyone else wondering.

Enjoy your last month of freedom!

[Joengr]

Hi there: Don't know if this is known. I have a NX80 using the new release of jackflash, working great. Having some problems when sync Mobipocket Reader 4.8 when in flash.

The sync operation causes the NX to send an error message and have to reset it. After moving Mobipocket again back to RAM, the error is no more.

[Joengr]

:confused: Hey, anyone having truoble with new Pocket Tunes 3.0.1 with MCA 2.03 and moved both to Flash??? when trying to lay in background after a while the Clie sends an error and have to reset. Moved back to RAM (PT) and plays smooth... Any ideas???

[Joengr]

OK, o, the problem is when opening Jackflash (PT playing in background), or when exiting any application and PT in background....

So, ?????

[shashi]

Hi,

I have a Nx70v/E
I think this thread is specific to NX 80 ?
For example, I don't have netfront pre-installed ?

so this means I can move netfront 3.1 into ROM just like that ?
also, anyone tried running silverscreen from ROM ?

Can a NX70 user confirm what DID NOT from ROM?


Thanks,

[stronggeek]

Hi,

I have a Nx70v/E
I think this thread is specific to NX 80 ?
For example, I don't have netfront pre-installed ?

so this means I can move netfront 3.1 into ROM just like that ?
also, anyone tried running silverscreen from ROM ?

Can a NX70 user confirm what DID NOT from ROM?


Thanks,

I have a NX80, but had a 70 and I belive that if you the Netfront app will fit into flash (and I belive it will) then you should be able to run it from flash.

[adelinshark]

RescoViewer works well in my flash. ver 1.70.0

[techick]

Ok could someone PLEASE post a link to where they are getting a JackFlash that works on their NX80?!?!:D:D:D

I miss it on my NX80 and I loved it on my NX70!

Thanks a TON!:D

[holo]

I have a NX80, but had a 70 and I belive that if you the Netfront app will fit into flash (and I belive it will) then you should be able to run it from flash.

works perfectly. i did it on my NX70

[stronggeek]

Ok could someone PLEASE post a link to where they are getting a JackFlash that works on their NX80?!?!:D:D:D

I miss it on my NX80 and I loved it on my NX70!

Thanks a TON!:D

http://brayder.com/products/jackflash.html

Your very welcome.

[stronggeek]

works perfectly. i did it on my NX70

Cool.

I thought I had done it with my NX70 as well.

[techick]

Thanks, gonna give it a go:)

[Marre]

You can move Jackflash to flash using the very same technique that gets your Audioplayer 3.1 and Netfront 3.1 into flash. You need a hex editor (such as Ultraedit) and modify the very first bytes which are the program name. After that, you can load two copies of the program into RAM at once (one original and one hacked). You can then put one of them into flash. That way you can have Jackflash in ROM and Flashenable on the card. (But I'm not sure if you could move it back to RAM without using a hacked one again.)

Jackflash is just some 100k so I prefer to leave it on the card. :-/

[Bockers]

All

I have been using jackflash on my NX73/e for some time with no problems at all. However when I install the Car Cradle and GPS software i get all sorts of probelms. These apps only seem to work if Jackflash is not on the unit (regardless of the fact that the apps themselves are in RAM). this is a nightmare as it means I cannot have GPS, Silver, NF3.1 Docs to Go and Aggendus all on the unit at the same time.

Argggh. Anyone else had this problem?

John

[Tyler Byun]

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ComicGURU 223K
FileZ 149K
IconMgr 144K
KDIC DA 31K
KDIC 50K
PathAway3 416K
MegaPuzzle 177K
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Agendus Mail, Battery Time, Body Mass, CDoF, Chem Table, ChordDB, E4u Dic, EzFTP, Flags,FreeChess, HandStory, HandyShpr, HappyDays, iSilo, Lightspeed, MathLib, MCA2, MetrO, NecTie, NesEm, NoviiRemote, Palm Bio, PhysConst, ScreenShot, Speedy, Sun Compass, Uni Matrix, ZLauncher, ZLib

This is a list taken from the Korean CLIE forum, CLIEN.net
Hope you don't have a hard time using jackflash.
I am also a current nx80v user, and have about 3MB of Flash left (while my RAM ironically has 8MB left) and I don't have any problems with crashing.

- The Korean CLIE user
Tyler Byun

p.s. There are many more, but the list is in Korean, so I haven't got into translating it.
Most of the Astraware games also seem to work well on Flash.

[stronggeek]

Tyler, these are apps that work, right?

I ask because we're posting apps that don't work, but no big deal.

Anyway, thanks for the list and welcome to the forum.

[clie123]

Anyone able to run the MsDict dictionary database from the flash rom?

[stronggeek]

Anyone able to run the MsDict dictionary database from the flash rom?

Not me, if you referring to MsDict 6.0

I get the "not enough space" error or something like that.

[clie123]

I'm using MsDict 6.0, got the same message too. Now I install the prc into the ram. How about the dictionary database, are you able to run them from the flash rom?

[stronggeek]

I'm using MsDict 6.0, got the same message too. Now I install the prc into the ram. How about the dictionary database, are you able to run them from the flash rom?

Oh, my fault.

So you were actually referring to the database (as you mentioned) :)

I haven't tried it yet because it runs so quickly from cf/ms.

I also thought the databases were too big or at the very least too big to load all the other apps and databases (that I use anyway) along with them in flash.

My flash is quite full now.

Perhaps someone with extra flash will see this and try it.

[stretch2k]

has anyone found a way to run splashphoto in flash!
when i run it off the card is shows there 3 files that are moved to ram to run, instead of just moving splashphoto to flash i want to move those 2 other files to flash, maybe that will work, but i cant see what those 2 other files are called, they move to fast.

[so_BAD]

Sorry Off-Topic, but it's for a good cause!


Well, the area in classifieds to do a post as "Looking For" doesn't work's, so, I did this.

I'm really want to buy a GREAT Clié NX 80v or NX 73v (UK version).
Not to Refurbished, Open-Box or Blemished units. Some scuffs, and case scratches, only, it's ok!

The payment will be by money order or postal money order, yours choice, and do you ship it to Rockford - MI.

Interested sellers, could send few pics to me, at: sobad_br2@yahoo.com.br

Thank you in advance,

Marcelo [So_BAD]

[Un355454]

Can someone give me a definitive asnswer on whether i can more DocsToGo or WordToGo or SheetToGo to flash using Jack Flash...

i have everything setup perfectly on my NX73, just want to make sure i dont mess anything up

thanks in adavnce

[Serotta]

I have both wordtogo and sheettogo in ROM, and documents in RAM, I think.

[Sparky]

Okay here's the problem:

I've got an NX70v and want to get Jackflash working
I've downloaded Jackflash (jackflash_2_6_en.zip) and Jackflash light (JackFlashLight_3_0b14) from www.brayder.com
Jackflash unzips correctly and the .prc downloads to my Clie
Jackflash light unzips but the .prc file won't download to my Clie because it says the file .prc "doesn't exist".

Any thoughts... Thanks - in advance

[Wytnucls]

Can someone give me a definitive asnswer on whether i can more DocsToGo or WordToGo or SheetToGo to flash using Jack Flash...

i have everything setup perfectly on my NX73, just want to make sure i dont mess anything up

thanks in adavnce
I have WordToGo, SheetToGo and SlideShowToGo in Flash. (Version 6.008)

[Ballajura]

I've just upgraded Pocket Tunes to 3.0.7. This doesn't like running from flash unlike the previous version 3.0.6. Looks like it has to stay in RAM.

[euro nx73 user]

Jackflash light unzips but the .prc file won't download to my Clie because it says the file .prc "doesn't exist".

Any thoughts... Thanks - in advance

hi, when i had this problem it drove me crazy, so i tried copying to my desktop, and then double clicking on it, it then worked, so try that, i'm at a loss if it doesnt work, hope this helps, Dan

ps. that wasnt with jackflash but some other programs

[matthewsem]

Wordsmith dont work. It gives a fatal exception. Well, a soft reset....
What system are you using? I have Wordsmith running on my NX73/v. Did you go to Handmark and get the update?
Just checking

[matthewsem]

I recently had a conversation with the SmrtPad tech support reps and discovered that my purchase of the SmartPad II was a worthless investment. :eek: The box and materials state that SmartPad works with Sony Clie, but what it doesn't say is that it doesn't work with any of the NX series and many of the other N series Clie's.
So - if you were looking to add this function to your bag-o-tricks, scrap that. :(

[bromwich]

Can anyone out there remind me whether MP3 tracks play on a NX80 with a 1GB Memorystick pro?

[tetanus]

Yes, they can. But SonicStage will not transfer songs to a Memory Stick Pro. You'll have to use MSExport.

[bromwich]

Thanks Tetanus, Do you know if the NX80 supports the new 'Atrac plus' format?

[squallelf]

the lastest version resco viewer work in rom now~

and!
splash money do NOT work in rom~
it will introduct a fatal halt after hard reset and use flashenable

[pharmer]

About Jackflash,
now that Brayder is no longer in operation, how do I get the Jackflash to work on my daughter's nx60, which I gave her.
thanks

[radon_22]

TCPMP, which takes up a ton of room with all of the codecs, works flawlessly from flash.

[kiteandcamera]

About Jackflash,
now that Brayder is no longer in operation, how do I get the Jackflash to work on my daughter's nx60, which I gave her.
thanks

Doesn't your registration number work for her unit? I do not recall if the registration code is linked to the user ID of the handheld. Anyway, it is an awesome application that provided tremendous opportunities to Clie users.

[pharmer]

I tried to use my old code, but it did not work. It seemed to use the user ID for the code.

[totololo]

Hello everybody.
I just got a used NX73V today ... but icannot find Jackflash anymore. The site is down, i do'nt find it anywhere else ...

Where can i get it ?

Any idea would be really nice, i'am stuck without it ...

[kiteandcamera]

Hello everybody.
I just got a used NX73V today ... but icannot find Jackflash anymore. The site is down, i do'nt find it anywhere else ...

Where can i get it ?

Any idea would be really nice, i'am stuck without it ...

Brayder has ceased development and support of this most wonderful app. I do not know if it is possible to get JackFlash anymore.

[kiteandcamera]

BackupBuddy 4.0 does not work in Flash.

[totololo]

Yes unfortunately it seems there is no legal way to get this soft now ...

[fallingstar]

anyone have jackflash 3.0 ? i just only have jackflashlight and i come from vietnam so i cant use credit card to buy it!

[markda2000]

Does anyone have the file for the version of JackFlash that works with the NX73v.
Mine has got corrupted and since I last used my clie my Laptop died along with the files on it.

The one version I did try was not compatible.

I still have my activation code, so only need a copy of the file itself.

Thanks

[shajimanhar]

i ned clie nx70v installatin software.

[thirdman]

I will pay good money (via paypal) for a copy of JackFlash for my NX60. Even just a registration number... I am serious, PM me for details.

[brecklundin]

geeze, bummer...maybe I might sell my nx73v afterall...i could really use JF right now.

And if the registration code is linked to the system ID it is not likely gonna do any good to get another code from someone. Bummer he did not make his abandonware open source on SourceForge.

[Telemachos]

It would be nice to find a Cliè OS5
"must-have" site (with things like jackflash,cf hack, modernclièaudio, mythomania-skins,dimmer ,tcmp, flashplayer,fonts4os5 aso.)
to bad that the Clie community seems to have died mostly..