NZ90 or NX80

[rmak]

With NZ90 on clearance right now, and the pricing seems to be within $100 or less as compared to NX80, which one would you consider better?

My understanding is the difference lies in the camera resolution (2M for NZ90) and official CF storage support (for NX80).

Advices appreciated.

Thanks.
Richard

[gvegaa]

What I don't like about the NZ is the SIZE!!!, the camera is good (2 MP) and it has flash, the NX80 has 1.3 MP and just has light. The NX80 has a better screen and the CF storage. If you really need a very good camera, go for the NZ, if you want a good one go for the NX.

[rmak]

Are you saying the NZ90 is bigger than a NX80? I didn't notice that ... maybe the 2M camera & flash is taking up more space.

Richard

[edeab220]

Originally posted by rmak
Are you saying the NZ90 is bigger than a NX80? I didn't notice that ... maybe the 2M camera & flash is taking up more space.

Richard
um...the NZ is the BIGGEST PDA around...even a review in PC world said that he couldn't even fit the NZ in his pocket...but it still good ;)

[YTTAN]

NX80 is slimmer, lighter, faster launching of camera mode, battery last longer and all software is improved, bigger ram space.

NZ90 got BT and 2mega cam with flash.

Can chose either one of them depend what you really want or suit your lifestyle.

[oneeyesquare]

Actually with the CF slot open, the NX 80 is very similiar in thickness, though a little shorter. I owned both for a brief period. For me it came down to camera resolution and the lack of Bluetooth. I stayed with the NZ....
The other major difference is available RAM and preloaded apps in ROM. The NX has , obviously, being the newer model, significant improvements.
Play with 'em down at your local electronics store if you can...

[n2ifp]

Additionally, I get the feeling that the NZ90 is on it's way out. Battery life on most NX80's is greater. The NZ90 also weighs 2 oz's more that the NX80.

[JwY]

well if size and battery life isnt as important go for the nz
but if they are important to u then go for the nx

[EPSOLON]

yupit is actually going out, u can find it at sonystyle already being sold it kits. this happened with the nx70 when the nx80 was coming out. plus it is about time for a new NZ. i just hope that a new nx come out in november, so i can transfer to my university with a shiny new PDA.

[P DaWg SevEN]

GO with the NX80, you won't regret it, you'll definitely regret getting the NZ because of its size, its like saying might as well get a laptop if you know what I mean

[cepler]

NZ if:

You need exercise.

You think bigger is better.

You need a brick to replace a missing one in your brick wall.

[dstabb]

I'm very happy with the NZ-90. It's not tiny, as my last PDA before that was a Tungsten T, but the one before that was a Newton 120, so the NZ doesn't seem big compared to THAT!

Seriously, 1.2 megapixels is OK for light duty use, but if you use the camera much - and you will with the NZ, 2 is much better. You can get a decent 8X10 out of it, but not with a 1.2 megapixel camera.

The I spent $20 for eruware's CF slot driver, and it works pretty reasonably with my 256 meg card.

____|)avid

[Thanos_Silva]

I have my nz90 for about two weeks and i love it :)
Cam => Great :)
Flash => Great
Size => It´s ok , of course can be smaller, but nothing is perfect ;)
Battery => If you recharger 1x a day no problem at all

P.s. Yes i´m the guy that bought the nx73 , i mean i try to buy but a person who live on my city sell me the nz90 for a good price :) LUCK

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by Thanos_Silva
I have my nz90 for about two weeks and i love it :)
Cam => Great :)
Flash => Great
Size => It´s ok , of course can be smaller, but nothing is perfect ;)
Battery => If you recharger 1x a day no problem at all

P.s. Yes i´m the guy that bought the nx73 , i mean i try to buy but a person who live on my city sell me the nz90 for a good price :) LUCK

Is the NZ90 you get is used one?

[lostether]

Here we go with the NZ bashing again. The fact is you're all just jealous, but of course you'll never admit it. And you will try to steer other people toward making the same mistake as you did. Go ahead, the more you knock the NZ the more I know it's eating you up inside :D

[rmak]

From the specification NX80 has 32MB ROM and 32MB RAM, NZ90 has 16MB ROM and 16MB RAM. That means NX80 has one more advantage over the NZ90.

Am I correct?

Thanks.
Richard

[Twin_Pixel]

For comparison, the NZ90 is thicker than my laptop.

[lostether]

The NX80 has the most usable ram, 16meg available, and the largest heap, also 16 meg, thus the 32meg of ram. With the latest software in rom, it is hard to fault this device. The battery life seems acceptable, which is actually saying a lot! Unless you can't live without built in BT you will most likely be extremely happy with this model.

[lostether]

Originally posted by Twin_Pixel
For comparison, the NZ90 is thicker than my laptop.

Yeah the other day I checked and the NZ90 was just slightly smaller than my spare bedroom.
Give me a break, that's probably been said about 20 times before.

[(oyo)]

I don't care how good the camera on NZ is... It won't be as good as my Cyber-shot P52. I only use Clie camera when I don't have the P52. Like at work or when I go on swing practice at the driving range. So I took NX80 over NZ.

[bke08]

I got the NZ90 for my birthday and was really disapointed with it because of size, battery life and memory. Returned it to Sony store for the NX80 and I couldn't be happier. Battery life is amazingly better, more memory and it actually fits in my pocket. Camera is excellent for carrying around every day.

[Twin_Pixel]

Originally posted by lostether


Yeah the other day I checked and the NZ90 was just slightly smaller than my spare bedroom.
Give me a break, that's probably been said about 20 times before.

It can be said a thousand times. The device is still thicker than my laptop.

[twinsdad]

I've owned both of these devices so I can give you a little insight. If the camera is very important to you (and I mean very important) than the nz-90 should be your choice. I can't give you stats on noise , filtering,blah blah, I can just tell you that there is no comparison in picture quality between the 2 cameras. The nz camera is very good and can be used in all kinds of lighting conditions with good results. The nx-80 camera stinks by comparison, although it is ok(barely) for 4x6 prints.

However, this is really the only advantage of the nz (unless you are one of the 5 people in the US that need bluetooth). The battery life is poor (sometimes as few as 5 or 6 shots with flash before shutting down), there is little useable ram, netfront is much better implemented on nx-80, and nx-80 is noticeably lighter. I can go into more detail if you want, but don't want to bore anyone

Hope this helps,

Don

[trayip]

NX80 ALL THE WAY. AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY:

1) Battery is superbly amazing (can't swear here)
2) Brayder made a beta of jackflash for nx73/nx80....15 mb free, which means like 31 MB free! GEEEEZ
3) 1.3 MP camera compared to a 2.0 MP isn't SUCH a big difference, and the printouts are ok and they look really good on the computer.

I think i may even upgrade from an nx70 to an nx80, unless sony does something about it's crappy (In my honest opinion) UX's. I want a CF card with my PDA, thank you very much :) And i don't need any wireless (well, until college).

Tray

[rmak]

Thankyou guys, it's been very helpful. I am very excited right now, as I picked up one brand new on Ebay today at US$411. Even with the 15% local sales tax in Toronto, it is still a very good price.

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by Twin_Pixel
For comparison, the NZ90 is thicker than my laptop.

Totally agree!!! My Vaio is only 19.8mm.

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by lostether
Here we go with the NZ bashing again. The fact is you're all just jealous, but of course you'll never admit it. And you will try to steer other people toward making the same mistake as you did. Go ahead, the more you knock the NZ the more I know it's eating you up inside :D

Just FYI, I had just 'downgraded' from NZ90 to NX80 after 5 months of usage. So what do you think for me to 'downgrade' my set?

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by YTTAN


Just FYI, I had just 'downgraded' from NZ90 to NX80 after 5 months of usage. So what do you think for me to 'downgrade' my set?

I am with you now man, the NX80 is thee best PDA!!!:D

[lostether]

Originally posted by YTTAN


Just FYI, I had just 'downgraded' from NZ90 to NX80 after 5 months of usage. So what do you think for me to 'downgrade' my set?

Then I would say you didn't need the advanced features of the NZ90 in the first place.

[lostether]

Originally posted by n2ifp


I am with you now man, the NX80 is thee best PDA!!!:D

See, this is what I like to see, people finding the ultimate PDA for THEM.
What I don't get is the need some people have to put down the choices other people make (unless of course they choose a PPC, then it is all right). Only a fool would believe that what is right for them must be right for everyone.
Me, I love the NZ90, I like the NX80, and for some strange reason I am just enamored with the UX50. I hope it doesn't turn into some kind of lurid affair. I can't afford it.

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by lostether


Then I would say you didn't need the advanced features of the NZ90 in the first place.

yup, I know it only when NX80 come to Singapore.:)

[aithir]

Definetly NX80, for the physical size, and the memory.

[neogin]

any details on nz patched last time about improving battery life with flash ?

[neogin]

you better save your money on ux ..

why ? auto backup is a must have function that nx80 doesn't have .. i wanna change my nx80 to ux50 ..

if you don't go on travel much then nz or nx is great ..

[YTTAN]

I had never use backup before as I had never use hard reset since the day I start using NZ90. Now I use NX80 only.

[ricleo]

NX80's the way to go. with jackflash v3.0b10, I have a total of 31MB ot internal memory for use!! Awesome!

[YTTAN]

I left 13467kb in ram and 11756kb in rom left after shifting files from ram to rom.
Still trying to move other files from powerrun MS.

Fail to work for resco viewer once in flash rom.
Fail to move into the flash for AcidImage.

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by ricleo
NX80's the way to go. with jackflash v3.0b10, I have a total of 31MB ot internal memory for use!! Awesome!

I strongly agree ricleo and with the strong battery life of most of the NX80 units :) this would be an easy choce for me.

And YTTAN, Acid image installed quite easily into flash for me, so may want to give it another shot.

Avantgo and 1st Aid are the only apps that won't go for me.

[ricleo]

AcidImage works in my Flashrom too :D however, splashphoto and resco viewer crashes my CLIE in Flashrom when I exit these applications. Other than these, everything else works in FlashRom! :D

[cepler]

Originally posted by lostether


Then I would say you didn't need the advanced features of the NZ90 in the first place.

A PDA is only really useful if you have it with you, and at the size the NZ is at, it's a lot less likely to come with me than an NX80.

If I want decent digicam pics I'll bring along my Canon 10D. I got the PDA as a PDA, the fact it has a bit more res than my NX70 is just a bonus, I upgraded for the additional RAM, brighter screen and buttons on the front.

And what do you expect asking about NZ's in the NX forum, of course we're biased, we're the ones that picked the right PDA. ;-P

[cepler]

Originally posted by neogin
you better save your money on ux ..

why ? auto backup is a must have function that nx80 doesn't have .. i wanna change my nx80 to ux50 ..

if you don't go on travel much then nz or nx is great ..

Travel with NZ? I suppose you could pack it in it's own bag.. ;)

I don't care for the UX50 form factor, it's trying to be too 'laptopish' for me. I would much prefer the portrait mode over landscape mode. I haven't held one but from the pictures I see, the UX50 wouldn't be very comfortable holding while standing around in lines etc.

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by stronggeek


I strongly agree ricleo and with the strong battery life of most of the NX80 units :) this would be an easy choce for me.

And YTTAN, Acid image installed quite easily into flash for me, so may want to give it another shot.

Avantgo and 1st Aid are the only apps that won't go for me.


Thanks. I manage to put AI into flash Rom.:D

Still trying on resco viewer... I think resco viewer need to revised their version again just to incorporate to use in Flash and won't crash when exit the application. :(

[ricleo]

Hmmm....I don't think Resco will go out of their way to redesign their viewer just to accomodate us NX80 owners and allow us to use it in flashrom? Splashphoto crashes like Resco in the exact same manner...seems they have more in common then I imagined..

I think a more realistic option maybe to email brayder about these few apps and see what they could possibly do to improve on Jackflash handling these programs since JAckflash 3.0 is still a beta.

[neogin]

i have nx80 and i think that with the money he will pay .. he can get better stuff .. nx80 isn't near perfect point yet .. i think that ux50 is nearly perfect pda for long period of time ..

nz and nx80 .. a bit difference on weight .. big difference on size .. battery life .. (if you get nz battery patch .. then i guess you will have much better battery life .. probably, not much better or worse than nx70 .. since we heard from many newbie users here .. i dont know how to confirm about nz battery patch .. i read it here last couple months ago ..)

ux is the best now .. the second rank should be nx80 .. third is nz i guess ..

for the price .. $100+ less than nx80 .. i would recommend nz ..

[YTTAN]

UX50 is a failure to me. I had get used to hold pda in vertical style since 1999. How big is our palm to hold in horizontal way??? My palm is consider big for an asian but to me it is still too big for holding it comfortable.

One thing Sony never learnt from Nokia, they never listern to customer or there is no human technology...

Still at 480x320dpi??? no diff. at all. I might as well wait for OS 6!!

Too big for my pant pocket.

Worst of all, UX look like a extremely slow minilaptop with little tiny of ram and harddisk space. I rather use a real mini laptop - VAIO C1 series with at least 20gb-40gb, ram=128mb-256mb, intel cpu 500-1000mhz and super graphic power at 1.5 the size of UX!

BTW, above are just some of my opinions. Please feel free to comment or advise on the above statements.

[tonyreynolds]

Originally posted by cepler


A PDA is only really useful if you have it with you, and at the size the NZ is at, it's a lot less likely to come with me than an NX80.

If I want decent digicam pics I'll bring along my Canon 10D. I got the PDA as a PDA, the fact it has a bit more res than my NX70 is just a bonus, I upgraded for the additional RAM, brighter screen and buttons on the front.

And what do you expect asking about NZ's in the NX forum, of course we're biased, we're the ones that picked the right PDA. ;-P

The RIGHT PDA?

"Travel with NZ? I suppose you could pack it in it's own bag...:)"

The NZ is NOT that much bigger than the NX80, and my NZ goes with me everywhere in a small waist pack.

A PDA is really only useful if its feature set matches the intended uses of a particular end user. Your NX80 works great for you; my NZ90 works great for me.

I realize the "Travel with NZ?" comment is a tongue-in-cheek joke, but many of us can and do take it with us.

It fits very nicely in my front pocket.:)

Tony