ux video

[freakmarket]

Has anyone put their UX thru its video paces? It is releasing in the US 7 days from now but i can't buy it until i know i can play QUALITY 320x240 video on it. Has anyone used MMplayer on it yet?

Can it handle a raw videoCD mpg format? (ie ... 352x240 at 29fps at a 1mb stream)????

Any input would be helpful in my desicion making process.

Chris in Kansas City

[OcellNuri]

I have not seen it first hand, but I know the specs say it can handle 30fps. I can't wait to see what it can do.

[sonicboy]

is the videoCD mpg format mpeg1?
I have played several of my mpeg1 formated movies without a problem and at full fps however, as of this post, MMplayer still doesn't work on UX..

I think you need to export movies with sonys tool for the best results and to take advantage of MPEG4

[SuitCase]

One thing I saw that was interesting was that 30fps only applied to the highest quality setting of the Sony video format... is that absolutely huge? How much in mb are you looking at for one of the anime episodes you've tried to watch, Sonicboy? :P

I'd rather not have to buy a 512mb+ MS Pro just to watch stuff of any substance...

[sonicboy]

well even my highest quality anime divx files are 30fps and they are really small.. like 100-150mb so with a size reduction and using MPEG4 they should be really compact.. size is not the issue its just getting the damn thing to read them.. we need MMplayer and I hope they hear the crys of UX users cause the UX has the most advanced clie video playback to date

[lmame]

I did yesterday an encoding of the intro of "Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Compex" (1 minute 55 seconds):

In "super high of the death 30 fps" quality the file jumps to 10,3 MB: MQV (http://www.lmame-bug.com/videos/MOV00006.MQV)

In "normal" quality the file is 7,2 MB: MQV (http://www.lmame-bug.com/videos/MOV00005.MQV)

In "low" Quality the file is 3,2 MB: MQV (http://www.lmame-bug.com/videos/MOV00007.MQV)

In "Super low" Quality the file is 1,5 MB: MQV (http://www.lmame-bug.com/videos/MOV00008.MQV)


Super quality is 320*240, 29,97 fps, 768 kbps video, 128 kbps audio
Normal Quality is320*240, 14,985 fps, 382 kbps video, 128 kbps audio
Low Quality is 320*240, 14,985 fps, 216 kbps video, 64 kbps audio
Super Low quality is 160*112, 14,985 fps, 96 kbps video, 32 kbps audio

The super low quality is really near of the size file you can have with MMPlay... (1 MB / minute, 240*160, 88 kbps video, 40 kbps audio, 16 fps)


And if you are curious to see the intro in DivX ;): AVI (http://www.lmame-bug.com/videos/gits.avi)

You can see MQV file on a PC renaming them into MOV files...
Quicktime 6 can handle them.


For MMPlay I asked Magnus...
In fact MMPlay is working on the UX for the sound, but the video is "weird"...
He said he will handle it in time...

http://www.lmame-bug.com/ux/mmvideo.jpg

[sonicboy]

yes.. wierdness.. ahh the joys of bleeding edge tech :D

[lmame]

Yet I must say the 29,97 fps mode is really impressive...
Looks like you got a DVD in front of your eyes... No compression sign, speed... Wouah... !

Yet...
5MB / minute... :)
I guees I will take a MS Pro and play with it ;)

[sonicboy]

5mb/minute.. thats with MPEG4? mmm, I guess that makes sense.. still, a 20 minute ep will be 100mb, thats good enough for me

[lmame]

I guess so...
I will encode 2 episodes of Wolf's Rain for tomorrow trip to work and see...

[sonicboy]

wolfs rain... nice :D

[Eddy]

anybody tried these Super Quality MQVs on the previous NX/NZ/TGs? Just curious, it's been said that they won't play. :(

[Eddy]

wow, just played it off my PC & the quality is superb! :eek:

[sonicboy]

previous model clies lack the hardware for 30fps playback

[Eddy]

thanks, just need to confirm that. :p
so you enjoying your Japanese dictionary? :D

[sonicboy]

LOVE the dictionarys.. so many occasions where during a convo I wanted to pull it out and look up a word.. single words are the problem nowdays, I can look up english and give them japanese or give it to them if they want to tell me the english the mix dic is good for convos, the others are good for reading manga :D

[Eddy]

glad you are liking it! :D
I often use the mix.prc myself, fast and efficient! :p

[lmame]

I guess I have some progress to make writing Kanji with Decuma :p

Sometimes it is not that easy for me... But really usefull... All common words, "translation" in kana, you can search for a kanji with its kana, I like it :D

[lmame]

As said in a previous post (software made by Hans Schmuker) it is possible to tweak the windows registry to change the values for Image converter...
video / audio bitrates, fps, stereo, width, height...

the fact is I successfully changed bitrate / framerate / stereo, but not the height / width... Seems stuck to 320*240 or 160*112...

[sonicboy]

height and width are not changeable!! poo...

dammit, we need MMplayer..

[lmame]

Yep... Image Converter didn't want to encode something different from 160*112 or 320*240...
And for 160*112 the maximum video bitrate is 384 kbps.
And for 320*240 the maximum video bitrate is 768 kbps.
For the audio you can not encode in 96 kbps, only in 32, 64 or 128 kbps...

I don't remember what were the different resolutions in Image Converter for NX...
Only 320*240 and 160*112?

Anyway by only tweaking framerate and video / bitrate you can adjust the place the movie will take and its quality... :)
25 minutes in normal quality was 90 Mo...
By tweaking the video bitrate / audio bitrate and framerate I made it 62 Mo, so 2 episodes on a 128 MS in good quality ;)

That is wating for a MS Pro of course ;)

[sonicboy]

yep, memory will get cheaper and more accomodating, good to sort these software issues out now while the hardware still has issues as well.. I guess.. :D

is that designed for the UX? I mean I guess even a slight increase in dimensions will dramaticaly affect file size but still..

when I have a square movie and play it full screen it crops it top and bottom.. thats ok cause most of my stuff is letterboxed but it would be better to sort it out in the converter.. mainly because I am a res junkie..

[lmame]

320*240 is perfect for anime... 4:3...

I love the UX ;)
As promised I saw two episodes of anime during travel to work, but I saw one of Eva and one of Cowboy bebop to test the subtitles...
Encoded in normal mode you see perfectly subtitles and the image / sound is perfect... :) and a complete episode (24 minutes with intro / ending) is 90 MB...

[dkosak]

Imame,

Great clips. Major Kusanagi never looked better -- and the Fuchikoma's (semi autonomous multilegged minitanks) finally made it on-screen. Can't wait till this hits the States.

Can you take any AVI and reprocess it for the UX? I'm thinking that I'll need a couple extra Memorystick Pro cards now!

- Don