Internet browsing really improved on NX80V vs. NX73V?

[kkrays]

Hi, I've always been reading that if one intends to web browse on the clie, then it would be recommended to get the NX80V due to its larger RAM. However, I'd like to know if NX73V users out there might chime in and let me know if they run into frequent "Page Too Large" errors with the smaller RAM size.

I'd like to purchase the NX73V simply because I already have a good digital camera and the only advantage that the NX80V offers is the larger RAM.

I do intend on using the Clie to web browse, visit forums, and to check email and such. I realize that the topic has been loosely covered, but they usually end up in discussions verifying heap sizes. What I'm looking for are some real-world experiences. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[n2ifp]

The NX80 was a big improvement over the NX70 running the same exact version of NetFront. The NX70 has the same RAM and Heap memory sizes. The larger heap memory in the 80, NOT RAM, has helped tremendously. It still is not perfect, but now I can actually load a web page.

[KSchar]

Originally posted by n2ifp
The NX80 was a big improvement over the NX70

Do you mean NX70 or NX73 (which is the comparable one)...

CU
KSchar

[n2ifp]

NX70 and NX73 are comparable in their respective memory.

I seem to recall that a couple of NX73 owners had similar issues.

[kkrays]

I tried scouring these forums and in actuality, I've only found one NX73V user who directly said that he ran into "Page Too Large" issues.

Just how often were these "too large" issues on the NX70V? Could a person check webmail and browse the forums? Did the PRL issues only occur on sites with large/numerous graphics?

[polimedia]

Well I use my new NX73 to replace the frequent use of a notebook to access the web, email and so.
I mainly use my Clie on home-office Access point.
I must say that keeping at least 5 MB of free ram usually prevents frequent errors.
I got a bit lost, as you did, in the previous discussions on PTL errors but I rember reading that keeping the ram free helps.
Finally I find no problem in browsing with Netfront, which is a incredible browser (I was using Xino and Blazer before and Netfront is by itself a good reason to upgrade.
Once in a while I get PTL error, but which is the problem the page is rendered anyway and this is not the only message I get, I get the popup error if I keep java enabled and on one of my bookmarked sites I always get a prompt to download a file (don't know why)
All in all this is a PDA and being a Palm user since the first Pilot 1000 seems to me a miracle to be able to use it as a almost perfect notebook replacement!!
BTW, I bought NX73 because in Europe it has integrated BT, otherwise I would have bought 80 I have a Nikon, but having a better camera always in my hands would have been nice (BT was simply too useful for my work and using BT MS for 2 years was a real pain in the neck).

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by kkrays
I tried scouring these forums and in actuality, I've only found one NX73V user who directly said that he ran into "Page Too Large" issues.

Just how often were these "too large" issues on the NX70V? Could a person check webmail and browse the forums? Did the PRL issues only occur on sites with large/numerous graphics?

I know there were a couple of NX73 users, finding them probably won't be easy.

I'll give you an example, the Linksys home page wouldn't fully load for me no matter how hard I tried with the NX70. With the NX80, it was a breeze.

Other examples were C-Net, CNN, and the DrudgeReport, would never fully load. With the NX80, I can even load the ClieSource home page, once in a great while I would get a PTL error, but doing a refesh would fix it.

I hope that helps some.

[YTTAN]

n2ifp,
How long do you normally need to download a webpage?

Thanks.

yttan

[n2ifp]

It all depends on the size, I suppose.

Some pages load within a second or two, some can take up to a half minute if it's really graphic intensive and large.

I have a 1.5mbps cable modem and WiFi LAN. The Clie slows things down to digest it all.

Have you tried the new Smb Server? I love it, give it a try if you haven't.

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24424

[polimedia]

Larry, you are just right I tried to load all the pages you mention and after a couple ones I got the error, but probably in real life I don't jump from CNN to CNET so often as I usually do not get the error.
In any case I find tiring reading very garbled sites and my eyes often get the page too large error before the clie...
If only NX80 had BT I would have surely gone for it, but relying on Wifi spots in Europe to get Internet access is like going into the desert hoping to find some water on the way.

[YTTAN]

Originally posted by n2ifp
It all depends on the size, I suppose.

Some pages load within a second or two, some can take up to a half minute if it's really graphic intensive and large.

I have a 1.5mbps cable modem and WiFi LAN. The Clie slows things down to digest it all.

Have you tried the new Smb Server? I love it, give it a try if you haven't.

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24424

Thanks Larry.:)

[FedoraJones]

Originally posted by polimedia
If only NX80 had BT I would have surely gone for it, but relying on Wifi spots in Europe to get Internet access is like going into the desert hoping to find some water on the way.

I find it here the same way with Bluetooth and the U.S. I don't work in a corporate environment (so I don't know if that changes things), but I've never run into anything that uses Bluetooth except Pocket PCs and some Palms. WiFi meanwhile seems to be everywhere. So no BT on the NX80 was not an issue for me :)

[polimedia]

Well I use BT just to connect to my mobile phone over GPRS.
Speed isn't that good, but GPRS is everywhere in Italy and, through roaming, in Europe.
So even if it's a bit slow to use netfront, I can access the mail everywhere with one single configuration: GPRS:
While at amy office, which is next to my home, I can access through my AP and it is great as I can cover all the home-office needs while moving in the office, home or garden (but I never had the chance to try the wifi elsewhere yet!

[YTTAN]

GPRS = 56kbps = 7kb/s
WIFI = 1500kbps = 187.5kb/s
hmmm....

VAIO is better choices.