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loupiet
02-01-2003, 09:41 AM
is there somebody who can tell me if there is a patch for wireless lan card slot ,to use it with a cf card ,the card does fit , nx does see the card , but you can not use it , there must be patch to solve this problem, would be perfect,could put a hell of a lot music on this card
thanks in advance
piet

nike33
02-01-2003, 10:06 AM
Sorry to say, old story. The lack of CF support has been beaten to death on this forum. A short while ago , there was a contest to write drivers with no winners. Most of us are pretty bummed out over this issue.

Sony has done nothing or come forth with more info on making CF work.

Rumor has it that Sony, due to it's love of the MS, will not create CF drivers or support.

jedix
02-01-2003, 10:13 AM
Well said, nike33. I was wondering if this post was going to get flamed!

n2ifp
02-01-2003, 10:25 AM
One thousand times no, at least not yet, sorry!

loupiet
02-01-2003, 11:22 AM
seen that i am a new user , sorry i started this thread , did not know you guys were going get angry
piet

jedix
02-01-2003, 11:28 AM
Well, i'm not angry. It just seems like this is the question of the hour, every hour! I saw you started this thread and said, "oh, no, here we go again!".

nike33
02-01-2003, 03:27 PM
louipet

I personally am not at all angry with you at all.

In fact, welcome to the ClieSource forum.

The anger, if any, is towards Sony for their lack of interest to developing CF slot drivers. Apparently all that is needed are drivers, the slot, if one had the drivers, would be fully functional. If Sony has knowingly withheld this info, well then, it simply stinks. What is far worse, is the fact that Sony has steadfastly refused to cough up information that would allow a third party to write drivers. Furthermore, what miniscule and incomplete information is available, has been offered by Sony at a prohibitively high cost.

On the bright side, it seems some members have and are continuing to work on the drivers, there is a good possibility we will have drivers available some day.

Once again, I personally welcome you to ClieSouce!

P.S. Please feel free to join the I hate Sony Club, for developing one fantastic machine, while withholding a very desirable functionality (the full CF function) It almost borders on sadism!

clieZilla2
02-01-2003, 03:43 PM
welcome to clie source - i've been attacked by the ruthless here myself so i understand your feelings... keep heading back though - ignore the haters.

ps despite feeling like maybe you should, don't think you have to resarch every thought you have before posting to make sure it hasn't been posted before - that's ridiculous.

LeggNet
02-01-2003, 05:38 PM
Welcome...

Attack...nope.. Matter of fact I haven't seen the "WHY DON'T YOU LEARN TO SEARCH" remark in quite some time (where has Picasosv been by the way)..

Now, if you want to see the Real Strong language, post a thread questioning what people think of NetFront then sit back and wait for Larry's response...lol

Again, welcome...

Cheers, Rich

Picasosz
02-01-2003, 07:10 PM
I have been in hiding leggnet I made a new years resolution to be kind to people with IQs lower than 70 but it is nice to know I am missed

clieZilla2
02-01-2003, 07:13 PM
not sure anyone with an IQ lower than 70 would give a rat's arse about an NX70 or any PDA for that matter ha!

Picasosz
02-01-2003, 07:18 PM
Sorry clieZilla2 I meant acting like there IQ was below 70 ya know not searching just posting

n2ifp
02-01-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by loupiet
seen that i am a new user , sorry i started this thread , did not know you guys were going get angry
piet

Heck no, I am not angry with you but, I am angry with Net Front:D!

My day isn't complete without giving or getting heck from someone;)

In any case Welcome Aboard!

loupiet
02-02-2003, 01:27 AM
hi guys,
thanks for all the messages, when i wrote my first message , did not know that i would get a recation as this, anyway end of discussion .
Returning to my question , cant we al send messages to sony to put some pressure on them , there must be a way on getting there attention,
regards
piet

n2ifp
02-02-2003, 05:28 AM
Originally posted by loupiet
hi guys,
thanks for all the messages, when i wrote my first message , did not know that i would get a recation as this, anyway end of discussion .
Returning to my question , cant we al send messages to sony to put some pressure on them , there must be a way on getting there attention,
regards
piet

Absolutely! I have been advocating this, but I have no idea if others have done so. The more static that you can give Sony, the better, in my book!

nike33
02-02-2003, 06:48 AM
Hey da kid's (louipet), got a point Larry.

How about a massive email campaign?

I mean we could each write a bunch of emails to Sony, stating our disappointment with the CF slot problem on the NX. Dare I venture to say, a problem that WILL probably continue on the NZ!…..

Sure, I know, with the all the world’s problems, this is a very small issue in the realm of things.

BUT this is the ClieSource forum, we are supposed to be (hopefully) the THINKERS ( hey look at the ClieSource avatar!!!) in the Clie world (again, I hope)

I mean, after all, isn’t the basis of a forum a place where one makes his or her thoughts known.......

A PLACE WHERE CHANGE OFTEN STARTS FROM????

Well anyway, I think the first step is to find the most effective email address at Sony, and flood that address, AND I DO MEAN FLOOD, with our request for CF support!

Larry, I look to you with great respect and personally honored if perhaps you might serve as group leader. In the past, you have often come forth with great information, help and advice for many ClieSource members.

Would you be willing to suggest that Sony email address that you think would be the most effective?

Thanks

Bill

pcmommy
02-02-2003, 07:21 AM
They are scared of losing money on memory stick sales and also money hungry. Releasing info on a cf support driver will decrease their sales and increase another brands sales of cf cards. Japanese people are very competitive and the thought of losing a dollar ruins their day! When they come out with the new memory sticks (1GB, and so on..) then they may release the info only becuase it forces choice. Most people will buy Sony so then and only then will they win.

Its all a marketing thing!


***Nothing in life is more important the the human spirit - In memory of the Challenger crew that was lost yesterday***

pcmommy
02-02-2003, 07:24 AM
They are scared of losing money on memory stick sales and also money hungry. Releasing info on a cf support driver will decrease their sales and increase another brands sales of cf cards. Japanese people are very competitive and the thought of losing a dollar ruins their day! When they come out with the new memory sticks (1GB, and so on..) then they may release the info only becuase it forces choice. Most people will buy Sony so then and only then will they win.

Its all a marketing thing!


***Nothing in life is more important the the human spirit - In memory of the Challenger crew that was lost yesterday***

pcmommy
02-02-2003, 07:49 AM
**I meant Columbia Crew, sorry:(

applejosh
02-02-2003, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by pcmommy
They are scared of losing money on memory stick sales and also money hungry. Releasing info on a cf support driver will decrease their sales and increase another brands sales of cf cards..

I agree with their concern of losing stick sales, but if wireless is only available in CF, they won't find me substituting one for the other. Also, I know people who would buy a Clie except for the lack of different types of media supported. If the Tungsten had had a CF slot (which allowed me to use my 802.11b and occasional CF cards) along with its SD, I would have gotten it over my NX70v. The dual slot is the reason I bought a Handera. It just makes sense to me. (It especially makes sense when I can get 256MB CF cards for not much more than a 128MB stick - but I suppose this is the kind of thing we're talking about.)

I know of a lot of people who went shopping for various A/V equipment, and the salesmen are steering people away from the Sony brands because of support/service issues. The same thing will happen with their Clie's if they're not careful.

Cheers!
Josh

blueflame
02-02-2003, 09:58 AM
ok, im starting a campaign to email sony, many of you have suggested this so im gonna make a new thread, that way everyone can see that people want to do that. lets make it happpen people, i want every single registered clie source member to email sony, thats alot of people, we will get results with that. I read somewhere that whaen a company recieves a complaint, they take that as 100 people, so for every 1 person = 100 people then this what the reg. users here would be...
Andreas

clieZilla2
02-02-2003, 10:04 AM
I'm in start the thread and tell us where to email.

nike33
02-02-2003, 10:08 AM
I encourage you blueflame, we need to discover the very best email address to use that we can, and then POUR ON THE STEAM!

Some may remember the Sony no Baloney slogan.....

A suggestion is SONY IS BALONEY! for this campaign!!!!!

blueflame
02-02-2003, 10:17 AM
ok, i posted a thread, it has a sony email line on it, i suggest emailing there if i get another email place, i will post that, everyone EMAIL SONY!! and post your replys
THANKS EVERYONE
ANDREAS

dirtmerchant
02-02-2003, 11:22 AM
I got a bug up my *** and decided to email sony. Feel free to cut and paste and change this as much as you want.

Lack of Compact Flash support on the Clie PEG-NX70V

When I think of Sony products I think of several things.

1. High price. Sony products are typically more expensive than the competition. In some cases, you're getting added feature sets, but oftentimes, you're just paying for the name.

2. Proprietary hardware. Betamax, Minidisc, Memory stick. You'd think you guys would've learned by now that just because it is a superior product, price and compatability with the competition is still important to a the success of a product.

3. Style. Your products do tend to excel in this category. The VAIO line was a prime example of this. Aside from a few specialty brands or the iMacs, a few years ago the VAIO was the only PC that concentrated on looks as much as functionality. The Clie's are without peer in this regard. No other PDA comes close to causing the kinds of stares from the crowd that the Clie does.

4. Functionality. Many of your products are the best available for this reason alone. There is not a faster processor available on a PDA than that available on the current CLIE model. There is not a better screen. There is not a better integrated camera or video recorder on a PDA.

Sony makes a fine product. But you are kidding yourselves if you think people will keep buying them if you don't improve interoperability. We're not even talking about a redesign. The Compact Flash slot is already there. We just want drivers. Do the smart thing. Open up your code and hardware specifications. Publish them on the web under the GPL or a similar license. Sponser one of the driver contests that have been circulating the web. Release a CF analog mode, a CF cell phone, a CF 10/100/1000 ethernet adapter, a CF Bluetooth adapter, a CF 802.11g adapter, an most importantly, an entire range of CF memory from 32mb to 1gb and beyond. Do this and your customers will stay loyal. Ignore these requests and lose us to your competitors who are listening.

loupiet
02-02-2003, 01:19 PM
good going ,blueflame
just sent my complaint, hopefully we will get through these guys now
regards piet

yOyOYoo
02-02-2003, 01:40 PM
I think you guys should try contacting SONY japan, afterall, aren't they the ones that come up with the CLIE's first? The US gets our CLIE's after the Japanese make them. (With exception of the NZ90, which I think is a big US flop)

What difference would emailing SONY usa do? Lets email the source.