AudioPlayer w/ CF selection

[jackho]

In AudioPlayer (ripped from UX) album selection window from my NZ, there is a selection list at top. That field is card selection and currently is selected compact flash.

Beside AudioPlayer, MoviePlayer also can select MS or CF in listing page. But voice recorder can't work... Although multi-volume programs work great, sometimes can't locate files in CF.

This msg I just post my findings, so pls don't ask me for those programs... Maybe you can get English version after US or HK released UX.

[cykalan]

I have proposed this many times and told you guys to try it...!
:D

[cykalan]

Anyway...congratulations...! All the NX and NZ users should be happy now...

But then, can you playback music simult. from CF and MS? or do you need to select only one card...?

Btw, the attachments got a problem showing up again...!

[jackho]

It only supports playback in one card in one time. But it is much better than before, need to insert MS or CF first to play files.

Attachment need moderators to put it in my msg...

If you see the UX50, no need anyone to inform, then you should know those programs support multi-volume...

[cykalan]

yeah i agree that's much better....

of coz we know the UX support Multi-volume....! the problem raised beforehand is that being the UX's using a DSP for audio playback and other multimedia functions will the same app works in NX/Z...! and of coz we know now it actually works...! :)

[Eddy]

Hey Jack, this is very good news indeed, so now we can have multi-volume for both AudioPlayer as well as the MoviePlayer??? :eek:

I can wait to get those running on my NX70!!!!! ;)

[Eddy]

I just thought about something though, why did sony incorporate this multi-volume selection on the UX50 now? When actually it only has the MS Slot? (I mean there's no CF Slot)

Does this give us a hint on what kind of unit might be coming up next? :D

[X Gear]

Maybe Sony will be also releasing this same program as an update to existing Clie's with mutiple volumes.

My $.02

[cykalan]

i seriously doubt about that.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Eddy
I just thought about something though, why did sony incorporate this multi-volume selection on the UX50 now? When actually it only has the MS Slot? (I mean there's no CF Slot)

Does this give us a hint on what kind of unit might be coming up next? :D

Because! Remember the UX has a virtual memory disk for lack of a better description, so it has to have multi-VFS for your regular RAM, auto-backup, and the 29MB storage. All 104MB worth!

 :D:p:cool:

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by cykalan
i seriously doubt about that.

Me Too!!!

[ccelada]

OK... so does anyone has the program yet?... can it be sent or posted? i guess at this point there's only a japaneese version, right?

[cykalan]

Originally posted by n2ifp


Because! Remember the UX has a virtual memory disk for lack of a better description, so it has to have multi-VFS for your regular RAM, auto-backup, and the 29MB storage. All 104MB worth!

 :D:p:cool:

stop picking on poor Eddy....:D
he just come back to here few days ago.....:p

and i thought that's what you exactly questioned me about that when i propose the solution....;) now you are teaching Eddy...! :D

[Eddy]

Allan & Larry.... you two.... LOL :D

[cykalan]

typo again...!! yo...!

it's Alan not Allan! :D :D :D

[rob_squared]

Well, if nobody beats me to the store like they did with Decuma, then I'll be hosting the UX files. But that will take time as I'd have to wait for the UX to be released in the US.

PS: My FTP will be down for a while since I am working on restoring my computer.

[cykalan]

i think that will be OK since peleca've been doing that already with the "CF Utility" thing..

[Eddy]

well, the typo thing... ah.. must have been too early in the morning. HA! :D

& well, the ability to make selection between the MS & CF sounds like fun. Can't wait to get my hands on those apps. I too run a Japanese OS. *hint* Jackho? :)

[cykalan]

wait till i come back to HONG KONG and i will get a Japanese UX. :D :p ;)

[cykalan]

BTW, why don't you guys bring Memory Stick with Rsrcedit in it, go to a nearby Sonystyle showroom, and get the new Audioplayer out of the ROM? :p

[jackho]

AudioPlayer's multi-volume function is not stable, especially in changing CF or MS. I'm still testing which way to do this will be more stable. Maybe I will write a note about install and usage after finished.

I already said in the first post that don't request softwares from me, but someone already sent me PM... :( Actually I don't want cliesource becomes a warez site...

[cykalan]

Originally posted by jackho
AudioPlayer's multi-volume function is not stable, especially in changing CF or MS. I'm still testing which way to do this will be more stable. Maybe I will write a note about install and usage after finished.


that's strange...what could be the reason behind that...? :rolleyes:

[Shiryu]

New AP with ERuware 1.2 CF driver: Not work
New AP with Original 73V CF driver: Not work
New AP with 3-bit hacked 73V driver: It works! but still feel slow than Eruware driver, especially when using LauncherX with autoscan function enabled.

[jackho]

Both Eruware and Sony patched driver work. But in Eruware, you must use dual MS mode. Otherwise, AudioPlayer can't show MP3 and MoviePlayer can show video files but can't play.

Actually Sony CF driver (patched or non-patched) should be faster than Eruware. But Eruware has cache, so some operations using Eruware driver will be faster..

[ccelada]

can't wait to have this apps on my NX.. but i guess I'll have to wait for the US models to come out, right?... and that's around sept-12... i might even get one UX50; actually the only issue here is the price :)

[jackho]

I found that different users (NZ, NX73/80) using AudioPlayer will have different result. I'm still testing it... Maybe better to get more libraries from UX50.

[Eddy]

nice going there, MoviePlayer as you've mentioned is working stable?
So I guess you'll be doing more testing on the AudioPlayer part right? :D

Can't wait for your good news. :)

[Siliconbug]

I think there will be 2 groups in this case.

(NX60/70, NZ90) <=> (NX73/80)

For NX73/80, it's not necessary to install Eruware CF driver nor hacked SONY CF driver. Just install Audio/Movie Players and enjoy them.

Some screenshots from PalmisLife.com:
http://www.palmislife.com/cgi-bin/ut/topic_show.cgi?id=18838&h=1&bpg=1&age=0

http://clie.idv.tw/necobi/MP3_CF02.GIF http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p97e39670be253a04e266e76998f2edbf/fb5b3849.jpg

[Eddy]

Nice going there! Jack! :D
now I got both MoviePlayer/ AudioPlayer running on NX70 + 3-bit patch, things are running flawlessly, & I don't need to worry about re-inserting CF 1st, then MS. Now I can just leave them the way they are, MS 1st or 2nd, & both Movies & MP3 will play fine! :D

[Slugman]

Grrr, been reading through both these threads - for some reason (and i'm fairly confident it's not me being stupid, though that is a possiblity..!) I can't seem to get it working using the Eruware driver, in normal or Dual MS mode.

It's very odd behaviour though - whenever I try the AudioPlayer, it just displays "No Memory Cards". When I choose the "About Memory Stick" page (which is impossible to read because of it being an englsih NX70v, but I can make sense of), I can see the MP3s on the CF card, and even choose between viewing CF and MS, but the main AudioPlayer screen just reports "No Memory Cards".

Anyone else getting this, or has any ideas, or should I just try the 3-bit driver?

[jackho]

If you use Eruware, you must have a MS w/ MP3 (at least 1 MP3) inserted. Or you can try to switch between CF and MS several times to make it works.

Using 3-bit patch driver, you don't need to do that.

[Slugman]

Ok, I'll try that and see if I have more luck.

Thanks very much for getting back to me, v. appreciated.

Ben

[pelaca]

Originally posted by jackho
AudioPlayer's multi-volume function is not stable, especially in changing CF or MS. I'm still testing which way to do this will be more stable. Maybe I will write a note about install and usage after finished.

I already said in the first post that don't request softwares from me, but someone already sent me PM... :( Actually I don't want cliesource becomes a warez site...

You're right... The AudioPlayer 3.1 (UX) isn't stable running on the NX60/70... like the 3.03 (NX80)...

[Siliconbug]

How about "Original" SONY NX73/80 CF driver + UX50 Audio/Movie players in NX60/70 and NZ90?

Has anyone try it yet?

[jackho]

If using AudioPlayer w/ original driver in non-NX73/80 CLIEs, no MP3 can be played.

[jackho]

I've tested AudioPlayer, MoviePlayer, Clie Viewer and VoiceRecorder from UX. Not all of them can work on my NZ.

For NZ90, NX60/70 users:
You should have patched Sony CF driver (CliePet's 3-bit) or Eruware CF driver (must in Dual MS mode) to get them work.

AudioPlayer can play MP3s on one card in one time. You can select CF in "Album Selection" (I'm not sure wordings as I'm using JP version). No need to use "insert sequence" method to select which card to play.

Note (for NZ, NX60/70 users):
1. You must disable "Enable background play" option, otherwise, you will get problem in replace/ reject MS or CF (MP3 can't be recognized again, only MP3s on MS can be recognized when re-insert MS, but CF can't, except soft-reset).

2. when playing MP3, if you reject/ unmount MS/ CF (no matter playing MP3 on it or not) during playback, playback will stop immediately. When using Eruware driver, you must insert MS w/ at least 1 MP3.

MoviePlayer is simple. You can select CF's MoviePlayer format or MPEG format files.

VoiceRecorder can't work, in the media selection menu, only MS, palm or "internal media" can be selected, no CF option. I think you need to use mini's patch or Eruware driver to use voice recorder.

ClieViewer is same as old version, but I think the speed has little improvement.

I think those programs are wonderful if you're using NX73/80, as audio playback has no problem in all the time.

The differences between NX73/80 w/ NZ, old NX, I think this is the problem of some libraries. But Sony's libraries are too many, I don't know which are related.

[Siliconbug]

Originally posted by jackho
If using AudioPlayer w/ original driver in non-NX73/80 CLIEs, no MP3 can be played.
I mean original CF driver ripped from NX73/80. Have you try it yet?
(If yes, then forget my post:p)

[oripaamoni]

is there any were we can download the UX audio player or movie player so i can try it on my NX-80

[jackho]

Originally posted by Siliconbug

I mean original CF driver ripped from NX73/80. Have you try it yet?
(If yes, then forget my post:p)

Of course, I'm using non-patched driver (ripped by myself) originally. As I'm using 512MSPro, CF driver is just a added function, I don't use CF often (actually I didn't use CF before released Eruware driver).

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by oripaamoni
is there any were we can download the UX audio player or movie player so i can try it on my NX-80

Look in the UX forum!!!

[Eddy]

I've always wanted to say this.... LOL :D
Search & you shall find. J/K ;)

[xiongguoy]

I've been reading the forums and keep hearing about this "3-bit hack" any one can shed some light? I'm curretly using Eruware

[Eddy]

CliePet's NX73 3-bit Hack
Day 1 (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18469)
Day 2 (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18553)
Day 3 (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18696)
Day 4 (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18731)

[Unregistered]

I must be crazy....:p

Just use RscEdit to replace all MS/MemoryStick strings by Cf/Compact Flash. and that's better for me.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid75/p5be88b7b79f03c3ad3a0f3b071f9c6ba/fb560c05.jpg

[n2ifp]

Hmm, sounds simple enough, no your not crazy, just no one else thought of it. :)

[Siliconbug]

Oh, I forgot to login. Based on Mini's patch files, CF Movie/Voice Recorders are for CF only now, so I don't wanna see any "MS/Memory Stick" strings in them. That's what I did in page 3.

Actually, you can map hardware buttons (Capture, Voice Rec) to these patched Movie/Voice Recorders.

1) Use RsrcEdit to modify CF Voice Recorder, change the value of "tAIN 1000" to "Voice Rec".
2) Use FileZ to modify CF Voice Recorder, and change the value of "Name" to "Voice Recorder".
3) Reset.

Now we can easily press VOICE REC button and record voice directly into CF cards. Of course, you still need to put one MS in to enable CF Movie/Voice Recorders.

(Same way to modify CF Movie Recorder)

[MarianoSF]

:confused:

[Eddy]

It was simpler earlier on the previous page 3, the RseEdit?:confused:
So this specific program with a bit of modification will enable you to map directly to the CF Card? Then you can record movie/voice directly to the CF Card? Is there any link to this? I'm a bit lost here. sorry for being stupid. :(

[jackho]

RseEdit is a HEX editor. If you want to use CF Voice Recorder from mini's patch w/ Voice Rec button, then you need to change patched file's software name and details (matched w/ original Voice Recorder).

[Oripaamoni]

you guys told me to look im the UX forum for the audio player files... i couldent find them, can somebody reply with a link or the name of the post thanks

[Siliconbug]

Originally posted by jackho
RseEdit is a HEX editor.
RsrcEdit, not RseEdit.
My typo, sorry....:p

If anyone wanna host these files, just let me know.

[KenSong]

Originally posted by Unregistered
I must be crazy....:p

Just use RscEdit to replace all MS/MemoryStick strings by Cf/Compact Flash. and that's better for me.


Replace strings from which file? ROM applications are not editable right? It would be an excellent solution for those who only put mp3s in CF.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by KenSong


Replace strings from which file? ROM applications are not editable right? It would be an excellent solution for those who only put mp3s in CF.

Hello Kenny,

Right, but after you make a&nbsp;copy of&nbsp;a ROM file and edit the copy,&nbsp;it then&nbsp;has to be stored in RAM. The Palm OS will see the file in RAM first, before it sees the one in ROM. Yes, it does chew up more RAM:(

[Blazefire]

Originally posted by Oripaamoni
you guys told me to look im the UX forum for the audio player files... i couldent find them, can somebody reply with a link or the name of the post thanks

I found the thread they were talking about but the links to the files are dead. Anybody have a working link to the files? The thread name is something like "audio, movie player from UX"

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Blazefire


I found the thread they were talking about but the links to the files are dead. Anybody have a working link to the files? The thread name is something like "audio, movie player from UX"

This one works!

http://www.evaoni.com/palm/UX%20Audioplayer+Movieplayer.rar

[Eddy]

Ok, so has anybody got a modified/ remapped version of the voice Recorder? :confused:

[jackho]

In my previous post, I stated about ClieViewer from UX. This new version supports showing media (photo, video) in CF (no need patched CF driver). In old version, everyone knows that speed is terrible as everytime refresh all thumbnails (when returned from MoviePlayer or viewing pictures). This version won't refresh unless you exit the program, the speed has been much improved.

I'd tried MovieRecorder, maybe missing the new skin from UX, the options screen is still same as my NZ version. I will try it and post my result after test.

[Siliconbug]

It might be a good idea to upgrade ClieViewer, because I can take photos by CF-based DC, and view it on my NX73.

I've tried Movie Recorder from UX50, and I think it supports MS only, not multi-volume?

[jackho]

As I remember that ClieViewer can show image in RAM and /DCIM/101MSDCF folder (in CF or MS) only.

MovieRecorder is multi-volume (both MS and "internal media"). I think MoviePlayer is similar to VoiceRecorder, that maybe can't working in other CLIEs. But I still haven't got the skin file of MovieRecorder to test. I will get it later when I have time.

[Siliconbug]

Originally posted by jackho
MovieRecorder is multi-volume (both MS and "internal media").
I think I miss something....

With my Movie Recorder v1.3 from UX50, I can't find the setting about MS/Internal Media. Can you mail me your file?

[Eddy]

I've tested the VoiceRec ver.1.2 on the NX70, although the file has been remapped to the CF instead of the internal media, yet once I choose the CF as destination, VoiceRecorder will not run.

Thanks for the Tip there ,Siliconbuy, guess you were quite correct about VoiceRecorder Ver1.2 not working on the NX70, somehow I feel that certain files are missing that causes the NX60/70 to behave that way. :confused:

Since I'm using CliePet's 3-bit CF Driver, everything works as should, but I just never see the CF icon, eg. in MoviePlayer format selections column. Oh well, guess that's what I'd have to live with unless I upgrade to the NX73/80. :p

[jackho]

Originally posted by Siliconbug

I think I miss something....

With my Movie Recorder v1.3 from UX50, I can't find the setting about MS/Internal Media. Can you mail me your file?
As I said before, "maybe missing the skin file of MovieRecorder, the option screen is still same as my NZ version". I'm sure this is multi-volume as I tried it in UX50.

[Siliconbug]

Does CLIE Camera from UX50 also support MS and Internal Media? I think now it'a the time to forcus on Movie Recorder and CLIE Camera. Maybe we can have Movie Recorder and CLIE Camera to support both CF and MS.

[jackho]

As I remember, CLIE Camera is also multi-volume. But I won't test CLIE Camera as UX50's cam is only 0.31MP. I'm using NZ... Maybe someone who use NX70/73 can try.

MovieRecorder is quite different w/ CLIE Camera as MovieRecorder only support very low quality output (no matter in NX80/NZ90/UX50). Only difference in UX50 is supporting up to 30fps, 768kbps output.

[Siliconbug]

I think you're right. But you know, I just wanna "POWER IT UP" as far as possible. Also, NX80 comes with 1M pixels camera, and it'll be better if users can save pictures or movies directly into CF. :D

[jackho]

If I need to save photos to CF in CLIE Cam S (in my NZ), then I will use Eruware one. But actually I don't use my CF often.

[marciton]

good work
thanks

[Eddy]

Jack, as I've also posted on another thread "AudioPlayer3.1 grabled" (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=24710&goto=newpost).
You're a genius! :D
now my NX70 can support playback with AudioPlayer without any problems at all. I can even start MP3 playback without MS inserted, just direct playback right from the CF in AudioPlayer! & if I insert the MS in the middle of playback, still the MP3 isn't interrupted at all. Very nice indeed! Thank you so much! :D
Eddy

[clie_wannabe]

Originally posted by Eddy
Jack, as I've also posted on another thread "AudioPlayer3.1 grabled" (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=24710&goto=newpost).
You're a genius! :D
now my NX70 can support playback with AudioPlayer without any problems at all. I can even start MP3 playback without MS inserted, just direct playback right from the CF in AudioPlayer! & if I insert the MS in the middle of playback, still the MP3 isn't interrupted at all. Very nice indeed! Thank you so much! :D
Eddy

been so busy at work lately that ive been out of it for a little while...

can anyone tell me where i can download the latest audioplayer?
im not in japan right now so i cant just go into a store a rip it of the new ux

thanks!

[Eddy]

here's the original source, thanks to cykalan! :D
AudioPlayer & MoviePlayer3.1 (JP ver.) (http://home.iprimus.com.au/cykalan/ux/temp.rar)
Just install the MoviePlayer.prc & AudioPlayer.prc should be fine, there's no need to install the AudioLibrary.prc from this *.rar file.
& remember to make a full backup before tinkering with things like these. Hope you'll have fun. :p

[clie_wannabe]

thanks...
i would start playing with them 2nite

[Eddy]

anytime! :D

[jackho]

Originally posted by Eddy
Jack, as I've also posted on another thread "AudioPlayer3.1 grabled" (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=24710&goto=newpost).
You're a genius! :D
now my NX70 can support playback with AudioPlayer without any problems at all. I can even start MP3 playback without MS inserted, just direct playback right from the CF in AudioPlayer! & if I insert the MS in the middle of playback, still the MP3 isn't interrupted at all. Very nice indeed! Thank you so much! :D
Eddy

It's weired that file I sent to you in first time is working in my NZ, but not in your NX... Did you try background playback? Is it ok?

But anyway, good to hear from you that means the "whole" AudioPlayer project is finished... :)

Next project is MovieRecorder, but I have no time now.. Maybe I will try in this weekend.

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Jackho
Did you try background playback? Is it ok?
Background playback is perfect! I was just playing bejeweled from MS & listening to MP3 from CF! :eek:

Yes, the whole AudioPlayer issue is now finish, even for my NX70 version. :p

Oh, I can't get the VoiceRec. V.1.20 to work? :confused:
Any ideas? Thanks in advance Jack! :)

[jackho]

Did you try VoiceRecorder again after installed THAT file? It may help also... As I didn't install that patched VoiceRecorder...

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Jackho
Did you try VoiceRecorder again after installed THAT file? It may help also... As I didn't install that patched VoiceRecorder...
humm.. good point there Jack, I'll try the voice recorder again and see what will happen. Thanks again. ;)

I'm having only 4MB of RAM remaining in my NX70! :(

[jackho]

You can move MoviePlayer, VoiceRecorder to MS/CF. If you use ZLauncher, much more memory can be saved...

I also have only 5MB free as I installed chinese system...

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Jackho
Did you try VoiceRecorder again after installed THAT file? It may help also... As I didn't install that patched VoiceRecorder...
I've tried installing VoiceRec1.2 out last night, it is still not working.
When I select:
"save to MS" = OK (shows an MS icon)
"save to CF" = blinking --:-- not OK (no icon, there should be CF icon)
"save to internal" = OK (shows PDA icon)

Something about the CF Card icon, seems some files are missing on the NX70 to display the CF icon, CF icon will not show up in MoviePlayer/ also not showing on the StatusBar. Oh well....
____________________________________
ZLauncher .... hum.... I'll take a look into it. Thanks for the suggestion. :p

[jackho]

I'm too lazy to patch, send me VoiceRecorder to let me try first... :)

Of course CF icon won't show because you are using 3bit patch! This makes CLIE looks CF as MS...

[Blazefire]

Originally posted by Eddy
Jack, as I've also posted on another thread "AudioPlayer3.1 grabled" (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=24710&goto=newpost).
You're a genius! :D
now my NX70 can support playback with AudioPlayer without any problems at all. I can even start MP3 playback without MS inserted, just direct playback right from the CF in AudioPlayer! & if I insert the MS in the middle of playback, still the MP3 isn't interrupted at all. Very nice indeed! Thank you so much! :D
Eddy

How about sharing that file? I've been having the same problem and would definitely love to have that fix. Thanx.

[jackho]

Sorry. That file still has some problems... So it is better not to share it now.

[jackho]

Eddy,

I've tried VoiceRecorder 1.2 on my NZ. If using 3bits patched, CF recordable time is "--:--:--", non-patched driver can show the time correctly, but when started rec, it will display an error.

I think that's the differences between NX73/80 w/ our CLIEs, some libraries are missing. If we can use original driver w/ AudioPlayer & MoviePlayer, then we can also use VoiceRecorder.

[Eddy]

Jack, I'm keeping my hopes up, it might be difficult but....
just need to figure out which libraries are necessary for the CF "--:--:--" problem to be fixed. ;)

[jackho]

That's quite difficult for me as I haven't neither NX73/80 nor UX50. I can't go to the shop many times to rip those libraries. And what I found the solutions in CF access is enough for me (as you know that I don't use CF actually, just for fun).

As I know others will continue trying on this, so I give up now...

[Eddy]

welll, thanks for all your help though Jack! :D
You've been a big help to not only me, but many others here who also have benefited! ;)

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Eddy
welll, thanks for all your help though Jack! :D
You've been a big help to not only me, but many others here who also have benefited! ;)

Eddy,

Is there a Voice Recorder app in the UX? If so is it multi-whatever aware?

Thanks!

&nbsp;;)

[Eddy]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Eddy,
Is there a Voice Recorder app in the UX? If so is it multi-whatever aware?
Thanks! ;)
well, let me see.....
I have one here that's VFS aware, & remapped to recognize the CF, but can't get it to work.... :(
&... Multi-whatever aware... Sorry I don't have that application. :D

[Siliconbug]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Is there a Voice Recorder app in the UX? If so is it multi-whatever aware?
The Voice Recorder from UX50 supports multi-volume, but for MS and "Internal Media" only. And that's why I ask mini to rewrite his patch program, and remap "Internal Media" to CF.

After using mini's patch program to patch Voice Recorder from UX50, this patched Voice Recorder from UX50 supports CF/MS now.

Voice Recorder - v1.2 in Japanese
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid77/pb6c975893af5625f8540dea458e6275d/fb3fafd4.jpg

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Siliconbug
The Voice Recorder from UX50 supports multi-volume, but for MS and "Internal Media" only. And that's why I ask mini to rewrite his patch program, and remap "Internal Media" to CF.

After using mini's patch program to patch Voice Recorder from UX50, this patched Voice Recorder from UX50 supports CF/MS now.
Now you hear that Larry? happy? :D

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Eddy

Now you hear that Larry? happy? :D

:D