Got my UX50 today

[sonicboy]

and I have my first gripe.. I should have spotted it earlyer THE SPACE BAR!

I put it on the desk to try quasi-touchtyping with 4 fingers but if you look at the lip where the buttons are it makes it difficult to press with your thumb (like a normal keyboard) I instinctivly pressed the back button :P well I might hack the browser shortcut key to act as space and it will be kinda OK but yeah..

I know I wont be typing like this much (if at all) but still, that would have been nice to thumb the space bar

I am currently waiting the 4 hours for it to charge ARRRGGGGHH!!!!!!

[james_young]

Congratulations!

How much is your UX-50?
As I know, it is about 70,000 Japanese Yuan.

I am also waiting 4 hours more to read about your UX-50 more.

[Sunscreen]

Congrats Sonicboy. I don't think you made a mistake, the UX is a first class machine. But 4 finger typing? Nope. Wanna borrow my Psion :). Bought the NX here in Singapore today.

Post some snapshots taken with the UX soon, would like to see the quality.

[sonicboy]

I AM POSTING THIS MESSAGE ON THE UX
whoops caps lock...

I must say, browsing in horizontal makes alot of sense...

and I dont know how new the mini stylus' are but when you pull it out it extends itself ready for use... a nice touch... be back later...

[AndyJapan]

Originally posted by james_young
Congratulations!

How much is your UX-50?
As I know, it is about 70,000 Japanese Yuan.

I am also waiting 4 hours more to read about your UX-50 more.
69,800Yen plus 5% tax is the list price (or SRP) that you pay in a shop like Bic Camera, Yodobashi etc. (not using a point card).
I guess that Sonicboy was checking out www.kakaku.com or www.bestgate.net and made a better deal and bought it somewhere else. The street price of the UX50 is already down at 61,800 Yen excl. tax.

[stronggeek]

Congratulations!

Looking forward to your review.

[ricleo]

Haha, I wanna see more pictures of the unit and taken by the unit!!! :D

[ayk7]

i want to buy too, in HK$4600 NO Stock.

[Enceladus]

Congrats

I pretty much already sold on it without even seeing it, you're lucky that it's out. I can't wait for the U.S. release!

[sonicboy]

DAMN!
the ux is so popular that in the time between when I posted my clie pics and movies and now (when I moved it to a different sever) I got a spike of 800MB+ traffic!

lucky I was making a new email account for my ux and saw it or the server would have died!

new site is here:
http://homepage.mac.com/sonicboy/clie/

[rened]

Congrats with your new toy! Did i hear pictures and movies :-)

[sonicboy]

I'll post some movies and pics with it soon.. but the camera is pretty average...

I didn't buy it for the camera as I have a cybershot but its usefull kinda.. I have been taking snaps of my friends to put in the contacts book..

[sralmas]

Can you (or someone) please post a picture of the UX, comparing it in size to the NX80, but with the UX on its side and the NX up and down. I'm trying to get a sense of how the width of the UX compares to the height of the NX and the height of the UX to the width of the NX.

Thanks

[sralmas]

I have been taking snaps of my friends to put in the contacts book..

Can you save those pix in the 29mb virtual MS space?

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by sralmas
Can you save those pix in the 29mb virtual MS space?
actually.. I dont think so!
I dont have the manual but by default it saves them on the 16 along with all the other stuff! thats pretty odd as the extra space IS for media files and that is where files from the camera/mic would go... if you dont have an MS

I've been putting that stuff on my memory stick so so far I havn't had to think about that 16mb... the images are like 7k each

anyway I'll post a wav from the mic as well as movies and pics (after I finish playing)

[cass_m]

Nice pix, especially the comparison ones.

[lubak]

Originally posted by sonicboy
and I have my first gripe.. I should have spotted it earlyer THE SPACE BAR!

I put it on the desk to try quasi-touchtyping with 4 fingers but if you look at the lip where the buttons are it makes it difficult to press with your thumb (like a normal keyboard) I instinctivly pressed the back button :P well I might hack the browser shortcut key to act as space and it will be kinda OK but yeah..

I know I wont be typing like this much (if at all) but still, that would have been nice to thumb the space bar

I am currently waiting the 4 hours for it to charge ARRRGGGGHH!!!!!!

sonicboy,

please, can you send me LatinLocaleModule.prc from your new UX50?

I need it for making new Fonts4UX.

Thank you

lubak@pilot.sk

[sonicboy]

all these developers are asking me to send them prc files.. is this legal?

[lubak]

Originally posted by sonicboy
all these developers are asking me to send them prc files.. is this legal?

:)

Hmm, I don't know is it legal :(

I have UX50 developer ROM (with UX Simulator), but LatinLocaleModule is different from real device :(

lubak

[BKirchhoff]

Probably an OLD question (so please excuse my ignorance). Does any one have the actual measurments (in inches or centimeters) of the UX50 screen? I've tried the simulator and it appears that it is slightly larger than the image and dimensions posted on the Sony website.

Brian

[thooeu]

Originally posted by sonicboy

actually.. I dont think so!
I dont have the manual but by default it saves them on the 16 along with all the other stuff! thats pretty odd as the extra space IS for media files and that is where files from the camera/mic would go... if you dont have an MS

I've been putting that stuff on my memory stick so so far I havn't had to think about that 16mb... the images are like 7k each

anyway I'll post a wav from the mic as well as movies and pics (after I finish playing)

Yes, you can store the pictures on the Media memory. By default it will go to MS if there is an MS in the slot. You can also choose the media to store your files in the config screen. You can choose the following settings:


Still Picture - MS Priority, MS, Internal Media, Internal (RAM)
Video - MS Priority, MS, Internal Media
Voice Recorder - MS Priority, MS, Internal Media, Internal (RAM)


When MS Priority is chosen, it will default to use MS if there is one in the slot; otherwise, it will use the internal media memory.

 

 

[sonicboy]

yes its set to MS priority but we are talking about the 8k image files created for the contact book.. and I still havn't figured out if you can put them on the built in memory, its a bit low on my list of things to try...

I still cant get the ***** to sync with this crappy G4

[thooeu]

When you click on the image for the contact, it will run Clie Viewer which will list all the pictures (from MS, RAM, medio memory). When you said 8k image, I presume you are talking abt the 160x120 image. They are all set in the Camera config.

Just curious what problem you encountered with the hotsync? It was quite easy for me, I migrated from my NX70V to UX50 in 20 min. I mainly use the network sync over wi-fi now.

I see, it is for a Mac. I hope you will resolve you issue soon and enjoy the UX.

[AndrewClie]

How are programs running on the odd-shaped screen with the VG on the side? That's one of my biggest concerns.

[sonicboy]

nope.. no sync for UX50 on mac yet this is the worst!

cant even mount the MS.. developers, look to a PC user for your files until I sell my mac RAAHHHH!!!!

[sonicboy]

just put some media captured with the UX up

http://homepage.mac.com/sonicboy/clie/

[rened]

Nice. You must be the fastest UX-reporter worldwide right now :-)
The first mpg doesn't play on my machine (the ones you put online yesterday do). The Sound recording and the unzoomed pictures seem very clear.
You own a nice machine!

[aoi tsuki]

The camera is surprisingly decent. It won't replace any decent digicam but then again, none of the Clie cameras will. It looks like it'll be great for "in the moment" shots, address book shots, and stealth shots.

Thanks for the pics and impressions sonicboy.

[pghart]

Originally posted by rened
Nice. You must be the fastest UX-reporter worldwide right now :-)
The first mpg doesn't play on my machine (the ones you put online yesterday do). The Sound recording and the unzoomed pictures seem very clear.
You own a nice machine!


Rename it to .MOV it will play.

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by rened
Nice. You must be the fastest UX-reporter worldwide right now :-)
Judging from my traffic spike I think so too! I guess most other UX users are too busy playing.
Originally posted by rened
The first mpg doesn't play on my machine (the ones you put online yesterday do).
give the index page a reload, I was having upload issues you must have caught a bad file.

[SilverbulletMR2]

cool stuff man cool stuff - thats awesome you report on this stuff so fast. That camera is fine, all these people 3 megapixels blah blah blah the digital camera my company uses is the same quality as this, i mean who really needs too much more than that for aorund town?

[sonicboy]

exactly, I have a cybershot in my backpack which takes fantastic pics anyway so when I saw that sony was putting cameras in the clies I was kinda dissapointed about duplicating technology.. but now that I have this "low res" one in the UX (and has already proved its usefullness and fun..ness) it actually makes sense.

ie: taking photos of maps on hiking trails (dont know how many peeps hike), taking happy snaps of your friends, mug shots for your address book... :D

[NJL!2016]

Originally posted by sonicboy
I AM POSTING THIS MESSAGE ON THE UX
whoops caps lock...

I must say, browsing in horizontal makes alot of sense...

and I dont know how new the mini stylus' are but when you pull it out it extends itself ready for use... a nice touch... be back later...

so netfront can use javascript? is there any problem with cliesource on it?

[X Destruction]

Hey, can you play aeroplayer/pocket tunes on this? I just want to confirm that this device has the palm sound api. If it does, that's awesome!

[ricleo]

try the new Bejeweled 2.2 with background music to see if the Palm Sound APIs are really incorporated?

[Defiant79]

Congrats!

Now I start getting second thoughts on the NX73V... should I get myself a UX?

Nah... I settle for the NX, b/c it's here now and the UX /E probably sees the daylight when Santa is in town.

Great machine, tough :D

[Massman82]

I also want to know what sound API this is using...

[kwajkat]

I noticed that you have one picture comparing the NZ90 to the new toy. How do the two compare as far as size and weight? It looks and by the size posted by Sony, that the two are very close in size and weight. Just curious on your thoughts.

[dihinaloudh]

I recall reading that the UX50 processor maxes out at well under 200 MHz - like around 170 or 180, correct? Could this explain the lower Flash Player frame rates seen by Sonicboy and reported at his site? How much slower, practically speaking, is this going to be than the 200 MHz models? Is there some kind of additional hardware to compensate for the slower processor?

[little-man]

I'm not sure about the effects of the slower processor, but I can answer your last question. Yes there is. The UX has a seperate graphics processor, and was advertised by sony as being able to play video at 30 fps because of this. I'm still not sure how this affects the actual performance of the machine. Probably ends up around the same as 200 mhz for most things, I assume.

[stronggeek]

Originally posted by ricleo
try the new Bejeweled 2.2 with background music to see if the Palm Sound APIs are really incorporated?

Man ricleo, you're always thinking.

I liked to know also.

Thanks!

[dango]

sonicboy,

I just read you can hotsync with mac via bluetooth.

http://www.clieclub.jp/cgi-bin/c-board/c-board.cgi?cmd=one;no=391;id=UX_bbs
(in Japanese)

good luck!

[sonicboy]

hey, cheers dango, great link! I see memory sticks still wont mount even with bluetooth. I contacted markspace and they said UX support will be released in Missing Sync v3.0.8 which will be released when the UX hits american shores. (next month)

If I didn't have a PC I would be pulling my hair out right now :D

yes, the processor is a very strange one.. some applications absolutley fly (30fps video w/movie player, clie camera, video recorder, picsel view etc) and some apps seem to be HANDICAPED by the handheld engine!!

I figure when developers get their heads around the api's performance should either improve or we will get more control over the processor speed.. its not like the handheld engine is a bad idea and it is going to be used in other devices.. the battery life is good, I was playing all last night (5 hours+) on a single charge with a low brightness and running a variaty of programs.. (nothing intensive for very long because I was testing) but I can see how it saves battery when doing the mundane things like contact book etc..

well I will be on the PC installing software today, I will get back to you re bejewled :D

[cykalan]

Originally posted by sonicboy

well I will be on the PC installing software today, I will get back to you re bejewled :D [/B]

Impatiently waiting...! :D

[keeperkeith]

is image convertor still used to make videos for the UX? i'm wondering how well these vids will play in an NX....or if they will.
this could get us our 30fps!!!
:)

[cykalan]

Originally posted by keeperkeith
is image convertor still used to make videos for the UX? i'm wondering how well these vids will play in an NX....or if they will.
this could get us our 30fps!!!
:)
what the are you talking about...?

it's not the image convertor that is special with the UX.....it's the DSP inside the UX that gives you the 30 fps...!! :rolleyes:

[keeperkeith]

Originally posted by cykalan

what the are you talking about...?

it's not the image convertor that is special with the UX.....it's the DSP inside the UX that gives you the 30 fps...!! :rolleyes:

actually....
the video encoded with IC is only 15fps
so.....image convertor must be "special" also to convert video to 30fps

Of course you are probably right about the DSP...but ya never know...OCing may help ;)

now that I think a little more about it though....if the UX is using the palm sound API....there would be no sound even if the NXs could play the video.

but hey its worth a shot

[sonicboy]

yep! the music works in bejeweled 2.2 :D

and thats some nice music too! :D goin back for some headphone action

[cykalan]

Originally posted by keeperkeith


actually....
the video encoded with IC is only 15fps
so.....image convertor must be "special" also to convert video to 30fps

Of course you are probably right about the DSP...but ya never know...OCing may help ;)

now that I think a little more about it though....if the UX is using the palm sound API....there would be no sound even if the NXs could play the video.

but hey its worth a shot

ok i got what you mean now...sorry about that....

seems like you won't get NX to work with the new IC now..! it's really using the Palm OS 5.2 API....!

[cykalan]

Originally posted by sonicboy
yep! the music works in bejeweled 2.2 :D

and thats some nice music too! :D goin back for some headphone action

oh my god....one more reason fo the to pick the UX instead of the NX.....

can you verify MM and Aeroplayer too...? that should works too...

oh my god oh my god..

[sonicboy]

what is MM?

[cykalan]

MM player i mean...! :p

http://www.mmplayer.com/

[JackAxe]

How does the UX handle MP3 music?

Does it support MP3 playlists?
I want to be able to change the order of my MP3 music from the Clie'. ArrrRRrrrGgggghhhHhhhh.

if the name of a MP3 file is changed from the UX, will the Audio Player still recognize that renamed file? Or does it automatically label it as (no title) and state; "This track is not available...blah, blah, blah...."

<]=)

[cykalan]

Originally posted by JackAxe
How does the UX handle MP3 music?

Does it support MP3 playlists?
I want to be able to change the order of my MP3 music from the Clie'. ArrrRRrrrGgggghhhHhhhh.

if the name of a MP3 file is changed from the UX, will the Audio Player still recognize that renamed file? Or does it automatically label it as (no title) and state; "This track is not available...blah, blah, blah...."

<]=)

i thought all OS 5 CLIEs Audioplayer already all support playlists..!

[jaimejr66]

Nice pics.&nbsp; Sonic.

Question:&nbsp; How does the UX behave with application built for portrait mode screens like DateBk5?

Can you post some screen shots of different applications.

Thanks.

&nbsp;:D

[sonicboy]

most programs support landscape I dont know what all the fuss is about..

screenshots hehehe, one at a time!

I will try aeroplayer cause that sounds like something I would use

[sonicboy]

OK, I'll make you a deal.. if you send me a program I will try it out for you.. these apps aren't that big are they :)

email: sonicboy (at) mac.com

[jaimejr66]

After making some quick measurements. The usable area of a screen is almost an exact square when the Virtual Grafitti area is in use. As such, I can see that generally speaking a program should look the same in Landscape mode as it is in portrait mode.

Sonic, is it awkward to hold the UX in one hand, while doing graffitti input into the UX? Or does it just take some getting use to?

[sonicboy]

the keyboard is so nice I have been avoiding graffitti..

that and I dont have a screen protector yet..

yes, the traditional "square" apps run with the virtual graffitti area and they run without a problem.

[sonicboy]

AeroPlayer works a treat! thanks for that that is a nice piece of software...
it doesn't sound too bad through the internal speaker either :P

[sonicboy]

I tried to play the file with AeroPlayer and sony Audio Player at the same time and it did some VERY INTERESTING THINGS HAHAHAHA

The built in sony Audio Player is better IMHO.. why did you want to use aeroplayer?

[cykalan]

OH MY GOD!
now the UX really rocks.....! :D

thanks sonicboy....!

coz you can get other formats playback on the CLIE...! and the most important thing is that it verified that the UX is actually using the Palm OS 5.2 Sound API....! which is a good move for Sony....at least they are now trying to adhere to new standards...!

And of coz with MMPlayer you can get all sort of movie formats playback on the UX...! :D :D :D

[aussie_nx70v]

i wonder how zlauncher will go on this machine? any chance you can try this for us?

[sonicboy]

any chance you can send it to me? (read prev posts)

[aussie_nx70v]

Originally posted by sonicboy
any chance you can send it to me? (read prev posts)

you can get it from www.zztechs.com

it will be quicker than me sending it to you.

[sonicboy]

AeroPlayer can play some songs that sonys software cant.. I take it back :D

[TechnoCat]

Originally posted by sonicboy
I tried to play the file with AeroPlayer and sony Audio Player at the same time and it did some VERY INTERESTING THINGS HAHAHAHA

The built in sony Audio Player is better IMHO.. why did you want to use aeroplayer?
Perhaps due to bitrates. Does the Sony software now support VBR rates around 80bps? Or mono rates around 30bps ABR (sufficient for talk radio)?

The Palms have been better at this than the Sonys.

[JackAxe]

Ahhhhh, the UX looks sooooo nice. Thanks for posting the picks.

The screen looks nice and crisp. Typing also looks easier then with the old clam shell design.

I'm definitely gettting two ( One for me one for my wife. ) now. :)

<]=)

[sonicboy]

my girlfriend played bejeweled and has diamonds in her eyes too

her's comes next week :D




P.S. it wasn't just bejeweled.. what is it with that game!

[JackAxe]

Bejeweled is EVIL... It will never inhabit my UX.

<]=)

[Eddy]

wow, just started to read this post, & already 5 pages!!! :eek:
congrads sonicboy! :D

[neogin]

wow .. getting jealous now ..

it looks pretty small compare with the nx80 !!

[JackAxe]

My jealousy kicked in last night.

<]=)

[sonicboy]

I have 3 gripes so far...

1: cant press space bar with thumb very easily and

2: the round cap near the side of the camera is not quite aligned properly (check yours before you buy it)

3: I dont have a screen protector yet

[JackAxe]

Does the UX have capslock?

<]=)

[sonicboy]

err... yes :D

[JackAxe]

Cool. I must have misunderstood a comment about no auto-caps or something like that.

<]=)

[james_young]

Snicboy,

Maybe u can cut the screen protecter of NZ90 to the size of your UX-50.

I do cut the NZ90's to fit my P802,

it works fine

[SprSaiyan8]

sonicboy,
How is the Battery life on it

[sonicboy]

I get about 1.5 days use out of it and keep in mind its a new toy so I am using it at every possible moment.. I've been using it all day today and I still have... 40% battery..

not for long tho, about to go online with the wi-fi and sit in the toilet till it goes dead WHOOOO!!!! excess technology rools.


if you want an idea of how long the thing will last YOU, get a stop watch and time how long you spend each day doing different tasks (mp3s, address and cal, video etc) and then do the math with sonys specs dividing each thing into the time from each activity.. :D all I can say at the moment is that the handheld engine IS working and it IS saving my battery.

as for cutting the screen protector, thats a good idea in the interim.. I am unfortunatly a perfectionist, thanks for that tip tho

[mj12]

my UX50 battery meter tends to jump around between application, is it how the CPU works to save battery?
Sonicboy, is it happening in your UX50?

[isotope]

With the included software in the Clie UX50, is there a way to edit Word and Excel files? It not, are there any optional software titles available out there (like Documents To Go - I'm not sure if this is compatible with the Clie UX50)?

[rened]

DTG is probaly usable in 320x320 mode. Just like all old software. You might try the simulator to check (see other thread (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23278) ).

[sonicboy]

mj12: yeah I get some anomalies as well! the most bizarre was putting on AeroPlayer to play some tracks then watching the battery level INCREASE from 30% to 40% LOL :D I wish it worked THAT well..

yeah I think it is related to the draw on the battery.. a variable draw will mean a variable battery meter

[anthonymoody]

Sonicboy,

I'm interested in your spacebar issue. When you say that it's tough to press with your thumb, are you talking about when holding the unit 2 handed and using 2 thumbs (only) to type? Or, do you mean when you place the unit on a flat surface and try to type with both hands (and many fingers)?

Thanks,
TM

[LeoW]

Congratulations to that terrific machine :cool:

whats about display's behaviour in the sun - compared with the NX73/80 e.g.

and is it possibal to view a picture on the whole screen, respective to rotate that picture on the screen, like Acid Image e.g. can?

do you think the display isn't to small-smized, after using a NX?

and last but not least, what do you think about the handling of the jog dial - placed on the buttom bar?

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by sonicboy
I put it on the desk to try quasi-touchtyping with 4 fingers ..... difficult to press with your thumb (like a normal keyboard)

crystal?

if your thumbing it gameboy style there is no probs, I just chase the psion experience with any handheld I get..

[anthonymoody]

Got it. I thought so, just wanted to confirm. Thanks,
TM

PS - btw have you used a treo? just wondering what you think of the keyboard comparison

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by LeoW
whats about display's behaviour in the sun - compared with the NX73/80 e.g.
the screen is more than bright enough, I keep it at 50% in sunlight or fluro lit conbini
and is it possibal to view a picture on the whole screen, respective to rotate that picture on the screen, like Acid Image e.g. can?
yah, you can use piscel viewer or any program like that... rotation is a program thing not a hardware thing, I can only see more improvments as more and more handhelds go back to the future, for lack of a better description.
do you think the display isn't to small-smized, after using a NX?
not at all.. like I said, I dont care much about size as long as the res is there and THE RES IS THERE :D
and last but not least, what do you think about the handling of the jog dial - placed on the buttom bar?
it is hard to get to but I thought that was a problem with MY hardware (my hands are huge) not the clie.. after using it a few days, I've come to prefer using it with just the jog dial and keyboard shortcuts ala: gameboy style :D

keep that stylus in its holster as much as possible I say

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by anthonymoody
PS - btw have you used a treo? just wondering what you think of the keyboard comparison The treo looks similar to the T|C which I dislike.. those dinky keyboards are useless in my eyes (but my eyes are belong to psion) they are badly positioned, way too small and hard to press/painfull to press. I can swear on my clie that I will personaly never use a keyboard like that again ever in my life not even if you paid me. :D

at least the clie line stick the keyboards up near the top of the device, much more comfortable IMHO

[LeoW]

Thanks for that rapid answer,

I think you're in fact the fastet UX reporter !!!
By the way, I have the same problems with my personal hardware :D

[anthonymoody]

Thanks sonicboy. LeoW is right - you're fast on the draw! I bet your biggest problem is that we're not letting you get any work done ;)

TM

[sonicboy]

HAHAHAHA! fast on the draw and my stylus is still holstered!

nah, I'm server admin man, I never get any work done anyway!

ahhh, back to "work" :D

[anthonymoody]

yeah, I bet those servers need lots of 'administering'....

have fun!
TM

[sindu]

I definetly want this beast !!!! It's all Sonicboy's fault...:D :D

[anthonymoody]

Hey BTW what do folks think of the 'must be in the cradle to charge' issue. I'm pretty much a road warrior. So, is the cradle big and cumbersome? Haven't seen any pix. Isn't it sort of a PITA to constantly have to connect/disconnect the cradle from your desktop when you travel and come home?

TM

[sonicboy]

sindu: arrgh, what have I done! I am so.. so sorry! :D

anths: join me in prayer for a 3rd party cable.. "ommmmmm"

the cradle is very slim and light (like.. very) and its actually comfortable to use the device while its charging I think this was in the designers minds.. but the adapter, while still much smaller and lighter than most power adapters, is still a little bulky in my laptop bag.. I'm going to leave charging it at home untill I get slapped in the face :D

I'm taking it to a all night rooftop rave tomorrow night, I'll see if it lasts as long as I do..

[anthonymoody]

ommmmmmmmmmmmm

btw love the pornography photos - very sexy! :)

btw...maybe dumb Q, but does netfront scale webpages or display them pixel for pixel? Also, have you tried hotmail? If so, does it work well?
Thanks!
TM

[sonicboy]

thanks :) I couldn't help myself hehehe

netfront is the best piece of software I have seen in a long time.

for scaling things you can tap a magnifying glass icon to scroll through various modes.. one is pixel for pixel, one is squash horozontally (so you can scroll verticaly) and one halves the res of the images (which is nice since the screen is "half VGA") I am constantly clicking it to either look at pictures, read text etc.

I havn't used hotmail because I dont have an account but I am sure it will work fine as my personal web mail interface does.. like I said, great software. it is a REAL WEB BROWSER, not a halfas s PDA browser as we have grown to fear ;) lovely

[jaimejr66]

Strong work Sonic....

We'll see how the North American Version measures up next month.

[Omnitron]

Any word on when this will appear in the stores??? I know when it is released - but that doesn't always coincide with actual appearance. Certain chains get preference, limits on stock, etc.

I'd really like to get my HANDS on one and see it in action. I've ALMOST made my mind up.

[NJL!2016]

i think they'll be in stores in the US by the middle or end of september

[NJL!2016]

Originally posted by sonicboy
thanks :) I couldn't help myself hehehe

netfront is the best piece of software I have seen in a long time.

for scaling things you can tap a magnifying glass icon to scroll through various modes.. one is pixel for pixel, one is squash horozontally (so you can scroll verticaly) and one halves the res of the images (which is nice since the screen is "half VGA") I am constantly clicking it to either look at pictures, read text etc.

I havn't used hotmail because I dont have an account but I am sure it will work fine as my personal web mail interface does.. like I said, great software. it is a REAL WEB BROWSER, not a halfas s PDA browser as we have grown to fear ;) lovely

both yahoo! and hotmail have mobile sites you can check email and stuff.

[wellsjs]

http://www.shopharmony.com/search.asp?t=c&s=15

9/4 ship/release date!

[JackAxe]

$629 is much better then the first price listed.

<]=)

[Eddy]

very informative about the UX50! :eek:
I feel like I want one myself now. :D

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Eddy
very informative about the UX50! :eek:
I feel like I want one myself now. :D

Naw, it doesn't have a CF slot...

[Eddy]

you know one thing that would really make this UX50 a real rad PDA, allowing the camera to enable video conferencing, in combination with the internal built-in WiFi/ BlueTooth, there would definitely be no comparison. Just my personal opinion. :D

[n2ifp]

Yes, that would be the schnitz, huh??

[Unregistered]

hmmm, a PDA that reminds one of dried apples, ham and dumplings???

[sonicboy]

yum :D

[Omnitron]

I'm still concerned about a verified exteral keyboard (pity the KB100 wasn't compatibile). I was looking for Bluetooth portable keyboards and came up with zip.

Otherwise I'm very interested in one. I still hope to see more reviews over the next few weeks to clinch the deal.

[TechnoCat]

Originally posted by Eddy
you know one thing that would really make this UX50 a real rad PDA, allowing the camera to enable video conferencing, in combination with the internal built-in WiFi/ BlueTooth, there would definitely be no comparison. Just my personal opinion. :D
That certainly would result in, as you say, no comparison. It also doesn't fit into the nomenclanture of "Personal" or "Organizer" at that point, instead becoming a "Business Communications Device".

The newest cellphones get you closer, cheaper, to that.

It also would be way rad if it had those little metal-cutting laser beams in it, like in the Bond movies. Oh, and a jet-pack option. And a 15" diagonal screen. And 200GB storage. And a full-size keyboard. And a DVD player. All in the current form-factor and at $200 less.

But realistically, isn't it already the most "rad" unit out there? And, equally realistically, would you ever be satisfied, and if not, why should they try to satisfy you?

I'd rather they skipped the camera and saved $50 off the price myself. In other words, I want less 'rad', more focus.

[sonicboy]

camera is good, I was a skeptic too before owning one..

I am glad people spend time thinking about what I need so I dont have too..

thanks peeps!

[edeab220]

Originally posted by TechnoCat

I'd rather they skipped the camera and saved $50 off the price myself. In other words, I want less 'rad', more focus.
Yeah, same here. My Nokia 3650 already has the camera, so all I have to do is take the pic w/ the 3650, then beam the photo via BT, that is, if I had the UX50. :D

Yo sonicboy, you did a good job! I ALMOST want one. :p Now that I have the "users" view, all I need are those people who review it for PIC and BH, and then I'll make the final desicion. :)

Oh yea, I'm not sure if you answered it (if you did, ignore me :p), but does the UX50 come with a built-in WiFi sniffer?

[sonicboy]

yes wifi sniffer is built-in... *sniffsniffsniff*

[Azxel]

i just realise how much i hate you sonicboy!!

nah.. just kidding.. great work on the review.
now, comes the hardest part in my life... the waiting.

[Gar]

Yea... but really. Did Sony finally allow for any kind of WiFi sniffing? This has been an issue with all of us Clie users at the office... them Palm users get to sniff out and connect to all kinds of net connections and keep up to date.
Thanks for the ongoing info on the UX. While my wife was sold from day one, I have finally become a convert to this new look/feel.
Still praying for that aftermarket charging cable!!

[Gar]

I just saw this on Sony's new UX site... and a window showing different access points. Are those like now on the NX70 where you preconfigure your settings and just try to connect all the time, not knowing if there is a base 802.11b out there.
Or does the new OS and hardware show available base stations and their status (ala NetChaser)?
Do you have 'open' stations there to even test this? I'm in Portland where it's standard to have an open (left that way on purpose) access every couple blocks.
From Sony site:
Carefree wireless LAN access.


Straight out of the box, CLIÉ UX50 is ready for wireless LAN communications*, including data synching with your PC on the same 802.11b network,** surfing the Net and exchanging email. In the Automatic Connection mode, CLIÉ even detects available networks and connects you with an available Access Point.

[sonicboy]

you can press "scan" and it scans.
then you see a list of base stations and you click one.
you can save it in a list of favorites and you can configure it.

why doesn't sony answer these questions..

[anthonymoody]

b/c they know you will sonicboy :D
TM

[sonicboy]

I am going to stop soon, people have started emailing me asking questionable questions about the thing.. like

"How did it "feel"? It looks totally Cool. How long have your been using it?"

and

"How does this device sync? My laptop is not wifi, does it have a cable?"

and

"I am a Mac user and am thinking about getting the UX-50. I am worried about syncing the UX-50 with my Mac."

please RTFM, or failing that, contact the software makers and manufacturers BEFORE contacting me.. I'm happy to answer questions about the UX but not questions like "does it have a cable?" :D

[anthonymoody]

ahhh, the joys of being first with a new toy! ;)

TM

[khyasad]

hi ..

Does UX50 come with Clie Remote Commander (Clie RMC) ? Couldn't see it on the spec list ??

[Gar]

Thanks for all your help SonicBoy. Everyone here has become a fan! :-)
Sony should pay you the big bucks for making so many of us fence sitters jump on over and stand in line to buy one now.
Keep us informed as the next hot Sony hits!

[sonicboy]

lol

if its not there (on the list) dont you think it might not be there?

no its not there..

[khyasad]

boo hoo ...

Thanks for checking :)

I'm in the UK but possibly flying out to Singapore and Tokyo ... Can you advise which store you got yours from ?

Thanks :)

[sonicboy]

if you can read japanese (or kanji) check out kakaku.com they list really cheap deals in different locations.. or

failing that, just visit a few large chains like best denki, yamada denki, bic kamera, yodobashi kamera, etc etc.. they will give you 5 year store warrantee+insurance for a little extra as well which is good to have I think.. I got it

[edeab220]

Originally posted by sonicboy
lol

if its not there (on the list) dont you think it might not be there?

no its not there..
hmm...if I gave you a copy of the RMC, could you try it out and check the range?

[sindu]

In Singapore, you can go to Funan IT Center, Sim Lin Square, or major electronic store such as Harvey Norman and Best Denki.

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by edeab220

hmm...if I gave you a copy of the RMC, could you try it out and check the range?
if you think it will work without an enhanced IR port send away man, I'd love to try..

[skccs]

Just searched the ux forums for netfront and found way too many post's than searched for "page too large" and found only one thread which didn't answer my question. So I read throug this one and still don't know if the good old "page too large" errors from all the various previous clie-versions of netfront still appear on the new ux-series clie ????

Greetings from Switzerland, Christian.

[sonicboy]

just increase the cache and the page too large errors dissapear..

I haven't had a single PTL since I did that..

[khyasad]

thanks ppl !

[iJITSU]

congrats on you purchase. enjoy.

[Jeffry]

I have a question. Which parts are made out of plastic in the UX50?

[sonicboy]

everything but it does have some metal parts and they are the rails along each edge and memorystick slot door, the key chain loop, the stylus bulb thing and several small screws.. there is probaly some metal inside too

[edeab220]

Originally posted by sonicboy

if you think it will work without an enhanced IR port send away man, I'd love to try..
heh...I'm not sure the OS4.1 version will work on OS 5.2 :(

Anyway, go try out this program, and tell us how far you go. :D
http://www.pacificneotek.com/

[rened]

Originally posted by sonicboy
everything but it does have some metal parts and they are the rails along each edge and memorystick slot door, the key chain loop, the stylus bulb thing and several small screws.. there is probaly some metal inside too

To my supprise! I thought it as all magnesium.

[rened]

Originally posted by sonicboy
everything but it does have some metal parts and they are the rails along each edge and memorystick slot door, the key chain loop, the stylus bulb thing and several small screws.. there is probaly some metal inside too

To my supprise! I thought it was all magnesium.

[Eddy]

an entire 90% plastic piece? wow..... Sony could have done better than that! Bad you Sony... why not the Magnesium?! :confused:

[sonicboy]

its very light, I am concerned about the sparkly finish on the keys wearing off.. when the keyboard backlight is off it looks silver, when its on they look clear.. pretty nice..

[sonicboy]

actually.. maybe it is magnesium..

it does feels cold to the touch and I cant seem to scratch what I thought was metal paint finish off..

yes it is all metal!! HAHAHA how could I have not noticed that!

ok.. now the question really is what parts are plastic..

well.. on the power switch and the buttons.. the camera wheel and there are 2 caps on each end of the hinge that are not cold to the touch and sound like plastic when tapping.. I also suspect the black area on the front of the screen is plastic although that is cold to the touch as well

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by edeab220

heh...I'm not sure the OS4.1 version will work on OS 5.2 :(

Anyway, go try out this program, and tell us how far you go. :D
http://www.pacificneotek.com/
doesn't work at all.. missing a lib

[Eddy]

Originally posted by sonicboy
I cant seem to scratch what I thought was metal paint finish off..
:eek: ouch, did you really try that? yikes! :)

[sonicboy]

well only after I was pretty confident it was magnesium :D

actually, that was kinda dumb, I would have got real sad if I scratched it

ALL IN THE NAME OF JOURNALISM!!

[rened]

I'll never mention the word magnesium again :D but i am glad it was a magnesium body.

[Eddy]

yeah, so am I glad to hear that it is magnesium. Now I can run up to the nearby store whether be it Japan or Hong Kong, where ever I'm at, & get that darn piece. It's sweet! :p

[skccs]

Originally posted by sonicboy
just increase the cache and the page too large errors dissapear..

I haven't had a single PTL since I did that..

Well this migth be the solution for the ux50, but on my nx70v and on my nz90 it doesnt help at all. They are all set to maximum cache.

I saw yesterday a report explaining the memory-concept of the ux-series on pdafrance.com. It shows that the ux50 has 16 mb of dynamic-heap. My nx and nz have only about 4 or 5 mb. This might explain the ptl errors.

http://www.pdafrance.com/img/pdanews2003/Sony_UX50_17.gif

Good to know that there is now a clie running netfront without ptl errors ;-) and in landscape too!

[skccs]

Originally posted by Eddy
yeah, so am I glad to hear that it is magnesium. Now I can run up to the nearby store whether be it Japan or Hong Kong, where ever I'm at, & get that darn piece. It's sweet! :p

If you read the interviev with the developpers on the recent english ux-site from sony (for hongkong customers) its clearly said, that the prototype was plastic and the finished product has a magnesium-cover. This site has a lot of informations about the ux-series and i even understood my nz better after reading the description of the apps (for ex. colored dots show which apps work with wifi, which with bluetooth and which with infrared).

[skccs]

Originally posted by edeab220

heh...I'm not sure the OS4.1 version will work on OS 5.2 :(

Anyway, go try out this program, and tell us how far you go. :D
http://www.pacificneotek.com/

As the nx-series and the nz90 have enhanced ir there will be os 5 apps for it.

But if the didnt build in the hardware it won't work. Maybe that this is a further step of sony to get more compatible (like with the sond api's). Because previous sony devices hat to ir-diodes build in. The strong sony one, which could only be used for the build in remote-app and the predefined devices (dvd, vcr uso.). Then there was the standard ir-diode for ex. for exchanging vcard's which had such an low range, that when you tried to train new ir-code with omny-remote or other third-party apps, you will have to stand up and get in front of your tv to use them. This means that whenever you wanted to get an ir-app to learn your personal ir-remote-code's you had to use a application which supported only the palm-standard ir-diode which has to low range.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[sonicboy]

where is that page skccs? love to read...

and about IR diodes I dont know much about it, it was my understanding when I bought the ux that it didn't have enhanced IR and it wouldn't be able to function as a remote control.. thats interesting if it has 2, there might be hope with third party apps..

I have a really neat analogue IR remote control car and it has a huge battery of about 10 IR diodes on the front of it but it still only has a range of about 5 meters LOL :D

[skccs]

Originally posted by sonicboy
where is that page skccs? love to read...

It depends on which article you meant.

1) I refered to an acrticle about the build in memory-structure of the nx50, which has been posted in the news section of pdafrance.com. You might have to press first the link "50 dernières news" to get the older news. The Post which I meant had the Title "Plus de détails sur le Clié UX50" and was posted the 16 of August.

2) The second article I was talking about was from the news section of cliesource:

http://www.clie-online.sony.net/prod_info/peg-ux50/index.html

The Interview with the developpers you will find here (linked from the home-page):

http://www.clie-online.sony.net/prod_info/peg-ux50/interview/index_body1.html



Originally posted by sonicboy


and about IR diodes I dont know much about it, it was my understanding when I bought the ux that it didn't have enhanced IR and it wouldn't be able to function as a remote control.. thats interesting if it has 2, there might be hope with third party apps..

I have a really neat analogue IR remote control car and it has a huge battery of about 10 IR diodes on the front of it but it still only has a range of about 5 meters LOL :D

From the moment when Sony came up with its clie-remote-control (T-Series) they had a second, more powerfull ir-diode added tho the clie-models. I suppose that this is true for the nx- and nz-models too, because the still have this remot-control-app. However the 3rd-party-remote-control-developpers could not access sony's proprietary second ir-diode. This meant, that you had to use the build in sony-ir-diode with the from sony delivered remote-functions. As well you could use the third-party-learning-remote-apps (learning from your home-remote-controls) only with the lower-range-standard-ir-diode which had been added for compatibilty (exchange calendar items, contacts with other palms, connect to mobile-phone via ir).

If the UX has no remote-control-app and if it has not the second sony-ir-diode. This might mean, that sony helps to get back to the standard. Other brand have only one diode and they use the 3rd-party apps like palm-remote or omni-remote or others.

[foresscum]

Sonicboy,

I am wondering if I can buy an English model in Tokyo? And do you have any idea where is the the best place to get it?

Thanks

[sonicboy]

I dont think you can get an english model in tokyo.. maybe you can in akihabara but expect to pay more (ie: american price)

[Galapagos]

Does anyone know, if you can run the AudiblePlayer for PalmOS5 on the UX50?

And is there an external Keyboard for it (like the Stowaway)?

[Omnitron]

I've been looking for an external keyboard --- an IR universal MIGHT work like from Targus, but I've heard no one report on successfully using one. And IR keyboards have a quirky success rate. A bluetooth keyboard is another option, but would be another option, but I've not found a portable version of those. Each of these keyboard types would be a self-powered variety, meaning you'd have to be worried about KEYBOARD battery life. No such luck with the other. I contacted Sony a few weeks ago about any keyboards for the NX80 and they said no. Last week the KB100 came out. I can't imagine if Sony is making and selling there own keyboards that they'd ignore ANY handheld for long. I think we are just in the lag between unit deployment and keyboard deployment.

Not sure about the Audible stuff - It sounds like they ought to, but I don't know what the security protocol is and whether it is purely OS based. I would think they would want to block playing except by a certain Palm account - and maybe beaming as well. Sounds to me like the OS and the file would work together, but who knows... Might be something you'll have to write Audible about...

[sonicboy]

you know what would be really really cool... a clie that was compatable with USB keyboards

[Omnitron]

Originally posted by sonicboy
you know what would be really really cool... a clie that was compatable with USB keyboards

Which would probably mean a Clie with a 1/2 hour battery life too... :rolleyes:

[edeab220]

Originally posted by Omnitron


Which would probably mean a Clie with a 1/2 hour battery life too... :rolleyes:

More like 1 1/2 hr battery life w/ the expansion battery ;)

I'll probably never be allowed to upgrade to such an expensive device, so to all those planning to sell their UX when OS 6 comes out, contact me! ;) :p

[sonicboy]

lol..

I bumped into someone else with a UX today.. after beaming a few apps and our contact details for future software/tip exchanges I got the feeling he shared my absolute contentment :D

it is expensive but man, I so dont regret it..

[sonicboy]

OH and I figured out why my little UX site got so much traffic! it got linked to an article on a handheld news site!

I so didn't expect that to happen HAHAHA pretty cool though

[Sonico]

Sonicboy, after the first impression, is the UX50 a cool Clié?&nbsp;

&nbsp;I'm happy with my NX70, maybe I'll change it for an NX80, I love the two slots on both machines, does&nbsp;the UX50 worth the change to the old days with one slot?

&nbsp;:confused:

[aoi tsuki]

sonicboy, using the keyboard, can you input kana/kanji? i always figured it would be like using an American keyboard in WinXP (using the IME) or Phantasy Star Online - as you type romaji, it translates it to kana and then into kanji. Just curious.

[Hakaida]

sonicboy-
I'm guessing you're in Japan. How does the input system work for entering Japanese text? You inspired me to use the 802.11b card in my NX-70. i'm sitting outside our CEO's office using his wireless access to our LAN. Netfront works pretty good.
Thanks in advance!

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by Sonico
Sonicboy, after the first impression, is the UX50 a cool Clié?&nbsp;

&nbsp;I'm happy with my NX70, maybe I'll change it for an NX80, I love the two slots on both machines, does&nbsp;the UX50 worth the change to the old days with one slot?

&nbsp;:confused: absolutly the UX50 a cool Clié, I havn't been this happy with a device since my eMate 300 LOL
but seriously, I do realize that its very expensive.. even moreso outside of japan, so you are PAYING for that coolness

Originally posted by aoi tsuki
sonicboy, using the keyboard, can you input kana/kanji? i always figured it would be like using an American keyboard in WinXP (using the IME) or Phantasy Star Online - as you type romaji, it translates it to kana and then into kanji. Just curious. yes, you obviously cant fit a full "ta,te,i,su,ka,n" (querty in japanese) keyboard system onto one that size so all input is done by typing romanji and spacebar to swap to kanji.. you have to switch if you want hiragana or katakana tho which is interesting.. anyway, its great having the japanese input system built into your palm espcially if your learning, it will also force you to learn kanji as you navigate the OS because be honest, kanji is a b i t c h and its not something you would willingly learn without being forced!! haha, I ignored it pretty much until I came here.

I think you can also use DECUMA to input japanese script on the graffitti area as well..

Originally posted by Hakaida
sonicboy-
I'm guessing you're in Japan. How does the input system work for entering Japanese text? You inspired me to use the 802.11b card in my NX-70. i'm sitting outside our CEO's office using his wireless access to our LAN. Netfront works pretty good.
Thanks in advance! the above is a description of how you enter japanese, I am not sure how familiar you are with japanese but that is pretty much how.. type romanji and swap it for kana then further swapping for kanji.. hope that helps! and yes, I love netfront too! :D

[MarianoSF]

I couldn't resist to congratulate you for your new toy :D&nbsp; . I bought my NX70 about three months ago. By now I already own several accesories (LAN card, battery adaptor, CF cards, GPS and cables to connect it, etc) At this point I can't afford to waste all that money I spent and buy a UX50 but&nbsp;I wish I could. I just don't&nbsp;make enough&nbsp;money to afford 2 "luxurious" PDAs.&nbsp; Congratulations again and thank you for keeping us informed. Great job.

[jaimejr66]

Hey Sonic,

Did the girl on the train know you snapped some shots of her. ;)

Anyway, you make a tempting argument as a real world user of the UX.

I can see why Wide-res would be so great for Web surfing.

&nbsp;

[JedTheHead]

Thanks for all your info Sonic... I read the whole thread last night in anticipation of my Clie arriving (ordered it awhile ago - maybe get it next week...)

How is the Linda Blair (Exorcist reference) feature? In other words... how rugged / durable is the rotating screen? Does it seem pretty solid and rugged? (I anticipate rotating mine alot!)

Also - did you get the UX50 case? Just wondering what you thought of it - I tacked one of those on my order.

[Unregistered]

How much was it in dollars?

[isotope]

Will a Sony Clie UX50 with an extended battery option fit into a Sony Clie leather case?

[NX70BOY]

Hey congrats on your purchase sonicboy! I bet u r happy. I was VERY happy getting my NX70V. I can only imagine how you feel.

Originally posted by sonicboy
everything but it does have some metal parts and they are the rails along each edge and memorystick slot door, the key chain loop, the stylus bulb thing and several small screws.. there is probaly some metal inside too

:P I could not help but laugh out loud at that.

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by jaimejr66
Hey Sonic,

Did the girl on the train know you snapped some shots of her. ;)
hahaha, thats my girlfriend!! although I have been taking spy shots lately.. I mute the sound and snap away or use Fun Cam to take shots every 5 seconds etc :D
Originally posted by Unregistered
How much was it in dollars? I forgot about dollars a while ago, please dont remind me how much money I am spending :D
Originally posted by isotope
Will a Sony Clie UX50 with an extended battery option fit into a Sony Clie leather case? I doubt it dude.. but I can say that if the battery is anything like the cradle, it is very comfortable to hold.. the UX body is really thin, its nice to come home and use it in the cradle.. gives it a bit of beef.. but I have huge hands

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by NX70BOY
:P I could not help but laugh out loud at that.
nyuknyuknyuk :D

[isotope]

Sonicboy thanx for the feedback in regards to the Sony Clie UX50 case and extended battery. I am contemplating right now whether to order the extended battery if it make it more comfy to hold especially when I am at home fiddling around with it.

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by isotope
Sonicboy thanx for the feedback in regards to the Sony Clie UX50 case and extended battery. I am contemplating right now whether to order the extended battery if it make it more comfy to hold especially when I am at home fiddling around with it.
if your at home you can use the cradle.. I would buy the extended battery if the UX was a central part of my day/work but I really only use it for about 2-3 hours a day when out of the house for reading books, music, address etc.. oh and if I can be bothered preparing, the odd video.. and for that the internal battery is more than adequate..

[Unregistered]

Sonicboy:

Thanks for all the hands-on info, it has been very helpful.

I have two questions:

1. I wonder if it would be possible to connect from the UX50 to a notebook with a Wi-Fi card in peer-to-peer mode?

I often find myself on assignment at a client's office and use a hard-wired Ethernet connection or a dialup connection when there is no Wi-Fi available. It would be easy enough to drop my Wi-Fi card into the notebook in peer-to-peer mode and share the notebook's Internet connection with a UX50, but I wonder if it would work since Sony materials all seem to refer to connecting to an Access Point which implies Infrastructure Mode. Would you have a way to experiment with this (if the idea even interests you)?

2. Have you tried a Hotsync via Bluetooth yet?

Thanks,

B(2)

[Hakaida]

sonicboy,

shitsurei desu ga, mata mata UX50 no tsukaikata ni tsuite shitsumon ga arimasu.

I would guess that the Japanese UX50's menus and dialog boxes are always in Japanese, even when in English grafitti/typing mode, yes?

That kakaku.com site has some REALLY cheap prices...you weren't kidding! Thanks for the URL!

itsumo no yo ni, arigato gozaimasu.

[fearlessfozz]

Originally posted by sonicboy
I have 3 gripes so far...

1: cant press space bar with thumb very easily and

2: the round cap near the side of the camera is not quite aligned properly (check yours before you buy it)

3: I dont have a screen protector yet


Hi Sonicboy,

I have contacted the company that makes the G2 screen protectors, www.pdascreenprotectors.com , and they have asked me to become a tester for a new UX cut when my machine comes in the mail. Once they send me the cut I will post my opinions on it and hopefully G2 can start making these before the year is out.

Are you farmiliar with the G2 protectors?

[fc2003]

Really tempted to order a UX.

If I buy one, my NZ will become a casual camera & pda with 512MB 40x CF...

[sonicboy]

shitsurei desu ga, mata mata UX50 no tsukaikata ni tsuite shitsumon ga arimasu.romanji... ??????????????? :D
I would guess that the Japanese UX50's menus and dialog boxes are always in Japanese, even when in English grafitti/typing mode, yes?
correct, but if you install an english app all the menus are in english so there you go..
[QUOTE][B]That kakaku.com site has some REALLY cheap prices...you weren't kidding! Thanks for the URL!
?????
[QUOTE][B]itsumo no yo ni, arigato gozaimasu.
????????????? m(_ _)m
Sonicboy:
Thanks for all the hands-on info, it has been very helpful.
no worrys Unregistered..
1. I wonder if it would be possible to connect from the UX50 to a notebook with a Wi-Fi card in peer-to-peer mode?yes its possible, I do the same thing with my laptop at work :D
2. Have you tried a Hotsync via Bluetooth yet?not yet, waiting for my new laptop with built in bluetooth
Originally posted by fearlessfozz
Hi Sonicboy,

I have contacted the company that makes the G2 screen protectors, www.pdascreenprotectors.com , and they have asked me to become a tester for a new UX cut when my machine comes in the mail.

Are you farmiliar with the G2 protectors?
I am not familiar but anything other than the expensive sony protectors (1000yen) is very welcome.. I actually bought one of the sony UX protectors so I am fine for the moment but the sony protectors have a strange texture.. its nice to use.. very smooth but it makes the screen dull..

[fearlessfozz]

The G2's are the best protectors IMHO. They are very smooth and very durable. 2 protectors cost about 14USD but they are well worth it. They are not like the sticker ones which can damage the screen some times, which I always do when I change them out lol. But they are plastic sheets that slip under the cover, and they are hard plastic so the graffitti writing is very smooth. And most Important of all, they dont affect the screen brightness or sharpness all that much if at all!!!!

[fearlessfozz]

woops for got to and that the one I have on my NR70V is one year old and still kicking. No major scratches, just normal ware for a 1 year old protector

[sonicboy]

the day after I put my sony one on I put a big scratch in it.. there must have been something on the stylus..

I'll check out these screen protectors

[Lammerstyle]

Just wondering...

The virtual graffiti area...can you make it be on the left hand side instead of just the right hand side of the screen? Just curious since I'm left-handed...and if I ever had to use that area (hopefully not =p) It would be nice if I didn't have to write on the right-hand side and try and see through my hand to look at what I wrote. =p

Thanks Sonicboy! You've sold me on the UX50 as well. :)

[SuitCase]

I don't have one, but after playing with the simulator, yes, you can. There's an option in the Prefs for it.

[sonicboy]

you can have it on the left or right side, you can even put it diagonally which is only really ergonomic when hanging upside down.. say, from a tree

[Sonico]

Originally posted by fc2003
Really tempted to order a UX.

If I buy one, my NZ will become a casual camera &amp; pda with 512MB 40x CF...

Hold the temptation, your NZ is really a wonderfull machine...

Don't live in a material world,&nbsp;though is a wonder, the UX50 lacks many of the things that distincts the NZ or NX families...&nbsp; :cool:

[Edoras]

How good is the Web Browser? Very similar to MS Internet Explorer?
Any problem in veiwing Java-enabled sites?

[Unregistered]

Hi Sonicboy,
After reading your take on the UX, I'm completely convinced and plan to get one myself ASAP.
One thing though:
How are you going with using it with your Mac?

I haven't got a PC so that's really my main concern... wouldn't be much point if I can't sync it with my mac...

I understand that there is some 3rd party software out there, but I'm wondering if it's good and complete, or if I should just settle for a mac-friendly PDA like the Tungsten 2...

Please advise =)

[fc2003]

After playing the demo unit in Sony Shop, I am disappointed with the small size of UX keyboard. :-(

[Hakaida]

sonicboy,

I was just saying that I'm being rude, but I wanted to ask another question about the useage of the UX50 and that was that I would suppose that even when using English Grafitti input, all menus from built-in apps and OS dialog boxes are written in Japanese?

And, that second bit of romaji was just to say, thank you as always.

Looking forward to your reply (thanks again...and sorry for adding more to all the questions everyone's asking)

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by Unregistered
How are you going with using it with your Mac? I use missing sync 3.0.8 it has full UX support.

Originally posted by Unregistered
[BI haven't got a PC so that's really my main concern... wouldn't be much point if I can't sync it with my mac...

I understand that there is some 3rd party software out there, but I'm wondering if it's good and complete, or if I should just settle for a mac-friendly PDA like the Tungsten 2...

Please advise =) [/B]
it has full UX support, you can do everything with the exeption of network sync.. but you can bluetooth sync and use all the featires of palm desktop..

and if the mac is restricting you purchase choises maybe its time to file a divorce with steve.. I'M pretty sure my next compu will be a pc, just gotta find the right one theres so many to choose from

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by fc2003
After playing the demo unit in Sony Shop, I am disappointed with the small size of UX keyboard. :-( are you serious?

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by Hakaida
sonicboy,

I was just saying that I'm being rude, but I wanted to ask another question about the useage of the UX50 and that was that I would suppose that even when using English Grafitti input, all menus from built-in apps and OS dialog boxes are written in Japanese?

And, that second bit of romaji was just to say, thank you as always.

Looking forward to your reply (thanks again...and sorry for adding more to all the questions everyone's asking) i could read it I just replied in japanese but obviously phpBB cant handle unicode... I dont like romanji that much, bad practice..

speaking of which yes all the OS menus and that of the built in apps are in japanese

and your not being rude :D

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by Edoras
How good is the Web Browser? Very similar to MS Internet Explorer?
Any problem in veiwing Java-enabled sites? I dont think it would handle java, you cant view embeded flash..

it is a fantastic browser for a PDA but they have to draw the line somewhere.. and it is not UX50 specific (although the UX isn't plagued with PTL errors).. its netfront..

[Hakaida]

Originally posted by sonicboy
i could read it I just replied in japanese but obviously phpBB cant handle unicode... I dont like romanji that much, bad practice..

speaking of which yes all the OS menus and that of the built in apps are in japanese

and your not being rude :D

Thanks for the answer, and being so gracious. I should have&nbsp; known you could read my simplistic Japanese :) I never thought that all those question marks were this forum software's inability to deal correctly with unicode.

Again, thanks for being so patient with all of us. I'm going to see if I can purchase the UX50 from ousama.tv from that kakaku.com site you suggested we take a look at. What a great price! I'm just waiting to see if my contact in Japan would be willing to help me out by receiving it there and shipping it to me here (of course, I'd pay for that to be done!)

Yeah, romaji can be confusing and I don't care much for it, but I never thought to use the Japanese IME on this site. Well, now I know it won't work! :)

mata, arigato gozaimashita!

&nbsp;

[sonicboy]

yeah, kakaku.com is da bomb.. good luck with buying the UX, just remember if your getting it shipped to the states get whoever sends it to check GIFT on the package otherwise you might have to pay tax..

[UZI4U182]

Since there's no way I'm reading through almost 200 replies to this topic, has anyone asked if you could send them the UX version of netfront? :)

[sonicboy]

nobody has asked but you..

[fearlessfozz]

Sorry but I am having trouble finding the answer to my question, and I apologize if it has already been asked but...

I have been reading that the UX has a slower processor than the NX series and my question is, doing a side by side comparison on the UX and NX clies is there any real difference in speed in running applications. Can you notice a difference?

I plan to run some mapping software on it too and use the bluetooth to run a gps, on the NR70V it ran kinda slow, but on the NX70V it ran much better. Hopefully it doesn't hamper this option too much but the UX does have many more advantages over the NX, i.e. the bluetooth so no cables and the internal ms so the maps should run faster anyways.

thanks...

[LupeValenz]

Hiya ho everyone! A brick user here and am wondering bout the UX, simply bout the swivel screen.....do it feel solid or flimsy? Like the NZ90, its begining to feel flimsy whenever i put the stylus back in place, I pray taht the screen doesn't come falling off. Other than that, everything else bout the UX is answered :) Thanks alot.

[sonicboy]

speed: fast enough

swivel: solid as


I dont know about this gps software your running but if its graphics and video are obviously much better than any other clie.. not nessicarily proccessor speed related.. if speed is a big issue, why not test it on a friends UX?

[c0mm0n]

News from my ux50 :cool:

It's gonna be ordered on thursday on kakaku.com, and my mate will fly back to France on 9/22, 3 long weeks to wait :o but the final price will be below 60000Y&nbsp;equals to&nbsp;512USD or 470€

To get it next week&nbsp;may i ask my mate to send it to me via fedex/ups ? any risks ?

[Eddy]

wow, somebody sounds really thrilled. LOL :D

[fearlessfozz]

Yaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooowwwwwweeeeeeeee!!!!!!


My UX-50 is coming next week from J & R. Only paid 600USD and no sales tax. I can't wait for it to get here. I think I am going to take the day off work so I can be here when it arrives. I concider my new toys of technology as my boys, maybe I will name this one after the UPS man, LOL. Can ya tell im exited? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :eek:

[edeab220]

Originally posted by fearlessfozz
Yaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooowwwwwweeeeeeeee!!!!!!


My UX-50 is coming next week from J & R. Only paid 600USD and no sales tax. I can't wait for it to get here. I think I am going to take the day off work so I can be here when it arrives. I concider my new toys of technology as my boys, maybe I will name this one after the UPS man, LOL. Can ya tell im exited? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :eek:
How?!?! Online they're sellin' it for $669...

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by c0mm0n
To get it next week&nbsp;may i ask my mate to send it to me via fedex/ups ? any risks ? Yes but if you can get your friend to sign the customs declaration GIFT so you wont have to pay import tax.

have fun!

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by edeab220
How?!?! Online they're sellin' it for $669... you can buy the UX in japan for close to $500 US.. so not "HOW?!?!" more importantly, why?

because japanese look after each other and dont give a rats about you (the rest of the world) THATS WHY :D

[edeab220]

Originally posted by sonicboy
you can buy the UX in japan for close to $500 US.. so not "HOW?!?!" more importantly, why?
I meant...how can I get that deal ;)

[fearlessfozz]

On J and R I just click the icon that says "click here for you price" after I logged in with my account that I have had with J and R for business and for personal accounts it said that the UX-50 was 599USD and 15USD for shipping, it has charged to my credit card already and It is shipping to my home in California next week. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wahooooooooo:D

[Hakaida]

I wonder if it's because you have a business account. When I click on the link, it says the preorder price is $669.00

&nbsp;

[fearlessfozz]

Yea its probably the business account I have set up. But also, I just realized that I can do a tax write off on the UX and you know what that means! :D

[Gar]

I do a bunch of wholesale purchasing through J&R and do not see that sub 600 dollar price that you are getting. That is really a great deal. Looking forward to hearing from you when it shows on how you like it.
Also, the date they are giving wholesalers is not next week but the week after that.

[fearlessfozz]

I did a little research of my purchase and found out that as far as the price goes, that I got the extra off because when I logged in to the account my company had some credit left over with J&R. That explains that part. As for the shipping, I talked to an J&R person and they siad they are shipping next week and I have a next dy air in order so I should see it next week.


Also I ordered a case for my UX from sony and It was about 50USD and it is like a sleave or glove over the UX so no velco!!!! And it has wallet like features for credit cards and ms's too. Sorry about leading you guys on about the price but I wasn't paying attention to the receipt that close when I ordered it. I just saw the top part of 669USD and when it posted to the account it said 600USD so I was like cool. I thought it was a price leader but I was mistaken. Oh well I just got to convince the company the credit never existed lol. I will let you guys know it the UX does actually ship next week.

[splat]

I just read this entire thread and wanted to thank all of you, especially sonicboy, for your input on the UX series. I've owned 3 different Clies so far, currently using an NX70V, and immediately found interest in the UX50.

After reading all of these comments, I'm still fairly sure I want to upgrade to the UX. I do wish it had the extended range IR and the ability to use portrait mode in the hardware, but I think I can live, especially with the wireless capabilities built in.

Anyway, I await the US release and hopefully I can find it at a decent price!

[Vagrant]

I've never shopped with them, but Froogle.com shows Sparco.com as the lowest priced retailer for the UX 50. http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A51C962 Their price is $633.21 USD and you can slip it through different warehouses to avoid taxes. I checked out resellerratings.com on them http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1184.html and they appear 'ok'. Has anyone purchased through Sparco?

[TechnoCat]

Originally posted by Vagrant
I've never shopped with them, but Froogle.com shows Sparco.com as the lowest priced retailer for the UX 50. http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A51C962 Their price is $633.21 USD and you can slip it through different warehouses to avoid taxes. I checked out resellerratings.com on them http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1184.html and they appear 'ok'. Has anyone purchased through Sparco?

Their ETA shows it as shipping on 02-Sept, but "Live Availability" shows it not in stock (on 03-Sept). I called, spoke to Dillon, he said the ETA is now 06-Sept but I should place a backorder because there's quite a line for it. I said no thanks, because they might slip it again.

Be leery of any place that doesn't keep their ETAs either updated or realistic. That's just like charging $30 for shipping. Remember those old Columbia House record clubs - something like any record for $6, but plus $2.49 s+h for the first item and $1.49 for each additional item... that's not $6/record, that's $7.50 per record (which wasn't nearly as good a deal), plus $1 for shipping the first one... in an era when $1 was a reasonable mail shipping charge.

This smells like the same crap. Bait-and-switch on the ship date to get the orders in. Probably very high shipping costs compared to, for example, CDW or Staples or Sony. I'm not saying that's what Sparco is doing, but ask yourself why their ship date is so far off.

[Hakaida]

Yup, good example about the ambiguous "Shipping and Handling" term. Like some, including myself, had discussed about that NYC electronics e-discounter, Harmony. They low-ball their base price but make it back in the undefined "shipping and handling". For 2-day shipping to Hawaii, Harmony (I just mistyped and corrected it, but maybe I should have left it "Harmoney") was going to charge me $49.95 for "shipping and handling". I work in an IT departmetn and we order stuff from all over the U.S. all the time and I know for a fact, it doesn't cost anywhere near $50 to ship from NY to HI, 2-day (which to us is really 3-day, anyway) I could ship a bulky 17" monitor to Hawaii for that much.

Of course, places like Harmony who low-ball the base price and rip you off in "s&amp;h" do that so that they show up as the lowest price when you search for something via froogle or pricegrabber. A lot of times, people don't check other sites even after finding out how expensive (read rip off) the delivery charge is, thinking that the other places would charge about the same anyway. Places like Harmony are banking on that fact. And, don't even get me started on their poor track record for actually shipping the item to you. Companies like these are what give NY camera and electronics discounters the bad rep they have.

[fc2003]

Hakaida made a good point.

Price sensitive buyer should just wait and avoid buy in the first couple of months. If I buy my NZ now in Hong Kong, it comes with a free WL110... Having said that, I share the urgency to upgrade and catch up with the advance of technology. ;-)

[Lustre]

Try a service like American Goodies if you don't live in the USA or Japan to order a UX50.
http://www.americangoodies.com/page/page/683642.htm

[Unregistered]

I live in the UK.. and Im thinking of ordering UX50 from the states. I can get in UK soon as well but i can get it at least 100 dollars cheaper if i get it from the US.

HOWEVER, I noticed that the UK model says "UX50.CEL" whereas the US version is just UX50...

Could anybody tell me whether this indicates a significant difference in the 2 products? Im a bit suspicious..!

The main differences i can think of right now are:

1. PAL not NTSC video playback?
2. Possible Wifi differences (dual-band or single band)?
3. Spelling and Currency

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

JT.

[Unregistered]

I live in the UK.. and Im thinking of ordering UX50 from the states. I can get in UK soon as well but i can get it at least 100 dollars cheaper if i get it from the US.

HOWEVER, I noticed that the UK model says "UX50.CEL" whereas the US version is just UX50...

Could anybody tell me whether this indicates a significant difference in the 2 products? Im a bit suspicious..!

The main differences i can think of right now are:

1. PAL not NTSC video playback?
2. Possible Wifi differences (dual-band or single band)?
3. Spelling and Currency

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

JT.

[Unregistered]

I live in the UK.. and Im thinking of ordering UX50 from the states. I can get in UK soon as well but i can get it at least 100 dollars cheaper if i get it from the US.

HOWEVER, I noticed that the UK model says "UX50.CEL" whereas the US version is just UX50...

Could anybody tell me whether this indicates a significant difference in the 2 products? Im a bit suspicious..!

The main differences i can think of right now are:

1. PAL not NTSC video playback?
2. Possible Wifi differences (dual-band or single band)?
3. Spelling and Currency

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

JT.

[Unregistered]

I live in the UK.. and Im thinking of ordering UX50 from the states. I can get in UK soon as well but i can get it at least 100 dollars cheaper if i get it from the US.

HOWEVER, I noticed that the UK model says "UX50.CEL" whereas the US version is just UX50...

Could anybody tell me whether this indicates a significant difference in the 2 products? Im a bit suspicious..!

The main differences i can think of right now are:

1. PAL not NTSC video playback?
2. Possible Wifi differences (dual-band or single band)?
3. Spelling and Currency

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

JT.

[ricleo]

???? Unregistered trying to increase post count??? :confused:

[Unregistered]

Ordered UX50 from Dell on 9/24, received on 9/25, good news!!

BAD NEWS IS THEY SENT A UNIT THAT HAD BEEN OPENED, USED,
AND A NEW "SONY" seal was attached over cut one! Oh my god Dell- wake up and smell the roses......in Brazil!!

Bud