1src Forums - Poll: Do you want *UNREGISTERED* members to post/reply??

Hannibal

08-04-2003, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by harpgliss
...I agree with the above but feel uneasy on telling the owners of this site how to operate it.

With that said i do feel that the "unregistered " option of posting is being used by members to post anoymously and feel this should no longer be an option....

Yes, it would also help to stop registered users from playing "guess who" games. ;) And, by the way, the FAQ is incorrect. According to the FAQ (http://www.cliesource.com/forums/misc.php?s=&action=faq&page=1#1), unregistered users can't post or reply......really?? :confused:

LaStigmata

08-04-2003, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by AndrewClie
I haven't seen too many annoying posts from unregistered users. Any examples?

I would say do a search for the Unregistered user name but you can't.

s_n_m

08-04-2003, 03:20 PM

how about instead of the name "unregistered" you see their email? :D

LaStigmata

08-04-2003, 03:34 PM

Originally posted by s_n_m
how about instead of the name "unregistered" you see their email? :D

Ouch! How about they get a number assigned to there IP.

Twinkle

08-04-2003, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by s_n_m
how about instead of the name "unregistered" you see their email? :D

Well not all people like giving out their emails?!!

I agree with the Idea that they can Search and Read. If they want to post they must register :)

Cheers,

LaStigmata

08-04-2003, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by Twinkle

Well not all people like giving out their emails?!!

I agree with the Idea that they can Search and Read. If they want to post they must register :)

Cheers,

Thats all we are asking for!

ScottLP

08-04-2003, 05:14 PM

If they want to post they must register-agreed.

babsk

08-04-2003, 05:57 PM

I don't care for the simple reason that even registered user names don't divulge people's real names necessarily, so even registered users who are in one of those back & forth wars with one another might still be anonymous in the larger sense.
There are plenty of snide remarks from registered users too-any rudeness is unnecessary, registered or not.
Anyway-my feeling is it's a free country-people should be able to express opinions. When an opinion is not the same as yours, sure, it can be irritating, because we all think we're right. As long as it is not an outright insult to a specific individual, well, you can just choose to ignore the posts that annoy you. Even with obvious slams to people, I just stay out of it and let it wind itself down. Responding can feed into it anyway. And people can always agree to disagree. Vast opinions are fine-we're all individuals.

Enceladus

08-04-2003, 06:23 PM

No I do not want them to be able to reply.

A lot of the time it is just some rude comment and I think it's pretty pathetic for a member to log out just to post some remark that they are to scared to put a name to.

sebring

08-04-2003, 06:49 PM

timw_de

08-05-2003, 03:27 AM

after reading the recent barrage of filth written elsewhere, we should most definitely make people register in order to use this board, (as do most other boards)

RoyoftheRovers

08-05-2003, 04:02 AM

Seems like there is little choice if control is needed over mindless posts such as we have seen today. What's the problem with registering anyway? If you don't like it, don't post.

cbulock

08-05-2003, 05:15 AM

I agree with the need to register to post. Every board I have seen that has moved to this requirement has only seen large improvements. Trolling will not be gone, but it will be reduced. I would really like to hear from the moderators of this site though. This is one of those topics that keep coming up, but the mods are ignoring. At least if the mods said, "Hey, we like it how it is, and it's not changing", then fine, we can move on.

jconaway99

08-05-2003, 05:22 AM

If you want to post, you should register.:)

*YellowRose*

08-05-2003, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by cbulock
I agree with the need to register to post. Every board I have seen that has moved to this requirement has only seen large improvements. Trolling will not be gone, but it will be reduced. I would really like to hear from the moderators of this site though. This is one of those topics that keep coming up, but the mods are ignoring. At least if the mods said, "Hey, we like it how it is, and it's not changing", then fine, we can move on. Well, it's an admin issue . . . it's Reggie & Joel's decision. Not a 'mod' choice... :)

The are aware of my views on the subject...for what it's worth.

jimroad

08-05-2003, 06:47 AM

I continue to ignore unregistered post for the very same reasons stated by others.....silly and useless.

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 07:45 AM

LOL, such an elitist crowd. Did any of you consider that most of us unregistered "bad guys" may ocasinally have answers to many of the questions asked here? The crap you all are complaining about will never be stopped by forcing viewers to register in order to be able to help once in awhile. It hasn't helped to keep kids off the porn sites, why do you think it would work here?

If you want to censor posts, then do so. It would be far more effective.

ricleo

08-05-2003, 07:55 AM

I agree that unregistered users occasionally have answers to the questions we want. However, I think that the % of those unregistered users posting insulting/unproductive comments far far outweighs the % of good replies... So...I would like Cliesource even more if only registered members have the ability to post replies and threads.

Look at the F**K Off posts made by unregistered users today... Those new threads only convince me even more that unregistered users shouldn't be allowed to post.

LaStigmata

08-05-2003, 08:03 AM

It's funny, that for the most part the registered supporters of this site seem to be in favor of registering to post. Why do you think that is? HUMM! I mean really what does it hurt unless you want to post something that you really shouldn't. This site with all of its morals and good standing should do everything in its power to maintain such a forum, there's not that many sites like this on the net these days. There should be no reason for users like jimroad to look over and ignore post some of them may contain the information he needs. But I know where he comes from when he says this. Even though an unregistered guest might have a good response to a question or even a good question. The value of there response is diminished by there anonymity.

Reggie

08-05-2003, 09:31 AM

Here's what I think. The site was created with the intention of creating a virtual community of Clie enthusiasts to share their Clie experiences, ask questions, and help one another. Unregistered posters are just like any other member here in ClieSource who visits the site to learn, share, ask, and/or help -- they are just part of the community.

A lot of unregistered members are actually members who wants to make a quick reply on something but they are not home or not in their own terminal and they feel lazy loggin-in or just wouldn't risk logging-in. I do this once in a while, which I suppose most of you do too, when I'm on a friend's house or office, and I see an interesting topic which I can't help replying on.

Unregistered posters, as with members, sometimes get out of hand and become unruly. Maybe because of anonimity, there is this sort of feeling that lets them think that they can be more vocal and use a harder tone on their posts. While we allow this, we just make sure that it doesn't get out of hand. How? While moderators are not on-line everytime, we are very thankful that it has become automatic to a lot of members already to report offending, 'personal attack', and warez posts. As moderators and admins, we can look at the IPs of posts which usually contains the domain name (that is why we know that the post is from Australia, Harvard, etc). We edit posts or delete them if necessary. In some cases, for out of control unregistered posters, the admin bans a range of IP addresses to stop him/her. The admin then does a reverse look-up on the members database to check who the IP belongs to so we can email the member, if it exists, on what has happened.

So why register? There are actually some advantages in registering that not everyone is aware of. First, you don't get pop-up ads. I know this is not a big deal to some since a lot are using pop-up blockers already but as a member, you can receive a unique user name, subscribe to forums & threads for automatic notification, download files, upload & download skins, send & receive private messages to other memebrs, upload pics in the gallery, and maintain a private calendar. As a member, as a lot have mentioned already, people can associate your posts to your ID and it gives you an identity. If you then use the same ID in other forum sites, people can then recognize you and already treat you with the same respect.

Well, these are my views. I hope this helps.

Griff

08-05-2003, 09:41 AM

Originally posted by Reggie
Here's what I think. The site was created with the intention of creating a virtual community of Clie enthusiasts to share their Clie experiences, ask questions, and help one another. Unregistered posters are just like any other member here in ClieSource who visits the site to learn, share, ask, and/or help -- they are just part of the community.

Well, these are my views. I hope this helps.

While I appreciate your taking a moment to tell us your views, I must point out that 74% of the virtual community that has voted has asked to have unregistered posts banned. There comes a time when the community must have some say in how the site works, or the community itself will see itself as less of a community.

I'd encourage you to keep this poll open and maybe even make mention of it in the off-topic area so that the majority of registered users here might vote. Hopefully, if you see a majority of votes proposing the ban you will decided to implement this feature that the community, at this point, obviously wants.

Eddy

08-05-2003, 09:45 AM

yep, some unregistered users actually are quite friendly & very helpful offering direct solutions. Many thanks to those. :)
& whereas for some that misabuse the advantage of being unregistered, really a sad case. :(

I think what Reggie has covered says it all. :D

Got_Clie?

08-05-2003, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by Griff

While I appreciate your taking a moment to tell us your views, I must point out that 74% of the virtual community that has voted has asked to have unregistered posts banned. There comes a time when the community must have some say in how the site works, or the community itself will see itself as less of a community.

I'd encourage you to keep this poll open and maybe even make mention of it in the off-topic area so that the majority of registered users here might vote. Hopefully, if you see a majority of votes proposing the ban you will decided to implement this feature that the community, at this point, obviously wants.

This site is not a democracy, it is owned and paid for by Reggie. Thus, he gets to dicatate the rules to us. We are visiting HIS house so HIS rules. Would you go to your neighbor's or friend's house and say to them, "don't let this or that happen?" NO. So why would you come here and try to dictate to Reggie how to run HIS webhome?

Reggie

08-05-2003, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by Got_Clie?

This site is not a democracy, it is owned and paid for by Reggie. Thus, he gets to dicatate the rules to us. We are visiting HIS house so HIS rules. Would you go to your neighbor's or friend's house and say to them, "don't let this or that happen?" NO. So why would you come here and try to dictate to Reggie how to run HIS webhome?

Not to disagree with you Got_Clie, but we do listen to suggestions. If it hasn't been for them, the site wouldn't have grown to its size now.

One thing I left to mention is, in order to become a registered user, you should have a valid email address for validation. While ClieSource maintains these addresses, as I have mentioned, we value privacy and we don't use, diverge, or sell them. This might be another reason why not everyone would like to register, with all the spam problems nowadays.

Eddy

08-05-2003, 10:21 AM

oh by the way, I really like the Harvard IP track. :D

Griff

08-05-2003, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by Got_Clie?

This site is not a democracy, it is owned and paid for by Reggie. Thus, he gets to dicatate the rules to us. We are visiting HIS house so HIS rules. Would you go to your neighbor's or friend's house and say to them, "don't let this or that happen?" NO. So why would you come here and try to dictate to Reggie how to run HIS webhome?

This argument is used over and over again and it's not in line with how the web actually operates. Yes, Reggie is free to run the site any way he wants, but if he did things that upset many people he'd find no more community...just look at Brighthand for an example.

I also might mention I have never been to my neighbors house when he's had 150+ people over at the same time. You cannot compare the community to a household, it simply doesn't work.

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 03:30 PM

Whether you like it or not, he IS free to run this however he wants even if it doesn't jive with your particular definition of community.

You can always start your own community and pick up the tab.

Griff

08-05-2003, 03:36 PM

Ya know, that is the childish way to read what I said...and even more chilidish to disagree as unregistered...sad.

Yes, I said he can do whatever he wants...did you forget to read that line...the point is that to be a true community he must listen to those IN the community.

FWIW, I already run a community AND pick up the tab. It's not about Clie's or anything like that but I do have experience. I am also think of opening up a more generic community at some point, but have not decided on the best way to start it yet.

Thank you for the love it or leave it type of argument.

Rob

08-05-2003, 03:45 PM

I have a question or a suggestion:
Is it possible to add 'unregistered' to your ignore list? If so, then I don't think this is a huge problem -- everyone who voted yes to this poll, just go to your ignore list and add unregistered posters to it.
If this is not possible, then my suggestion to Reggie & Joel is to look into how hard it would be to make this work. It seems like a very reasonable compromise to me.

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 03:50 PM

i personally think everyone is correct. for this discussion, there is no right or wrong, only different opinions.

i would simply point out however as an egineer - any survey requires basic upper and lower control points. this survey from what i can see is certainly telling of the respondants. the question is - is it telling of the community (both registered and non registered). what are the control points so that you know when you have a large enough sample size, and the right population to indicate what cs users want? and you also have to factor/weight the apparant fact that the voters are registered users. technically, and you have to built in an error rate and including repeat voters if any - you need to let the unregistered vote as well. otherwise, it is a given what this poll will show.

i know this is a simple survey, but my above points are that it is actually quite difficult to come to a fair conclusion based on the survey results.

maybe you need to start from the other end of the stick - find out why people like myself don't register. (in my case, i am lazy, no other reason)

my .02

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 04:25 PM

how many actively posting registered users are there? only 62 responded. how many unregistered voted? what is the error rate?

"While I appreciate your taking a moment to tell us your views, I must point out that 74% of the virtual community that has voted has asked to have unregistered posts banned. There comes a time when the community must have some say in how the site works, or the community itself will see itself as less of a community"

no offence, but how can you draw this conclusion out of 62 people, that includes only registered and those who care about this subject? surely cs has more. its like the presidential election, the more people and the more diverse, the more likely you get a close election. the less that vote, are tyipcally the more opinionated.

in fact, i would draw a guess that because only 62 voted - it is actually not that big of deal for the majority of people, unless cs only has 100 people.

devilic

08-05-2003, 04:31 PM

Originally posted by lthwc
Unregistered visitors can read and search the forums. If they want to do more, let them register.

It's too easy to troll as an unregistered.

Well for me, I think if they wan to search, they should register too.
:o

LaStigmata

08-05-2003, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered
how many actively posting registered users are there? only 62 responded. how many unregistered voted? what is the error rate?

"While I appreciate your taking a moment to tell us your views, I must point out that 74% of the virtual community that has voted has asked to have unregistered posts banned. There comes a time when the community must have some say in how the site works, or the community itself will see itself as less of a community"

no offence, but how can you draw this conclusion out of 62 people, that includes only registered and those who care about this subject? surely cs has more. its like the presidential election, the more people and the more diverse, the more likely you get a close election. the less that vote, are tyipcally the more opinionated.

in fact, i would draw a guess that because only 62 voted - it is actually not that big of deal for the majority of people, unless cs only has 100 people.

IF YOU WANT TO VOTE REGISTER!

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 06:31 PM

the point is you are already self predicting your survey results. if i wanted to register, i would have. if not, how can i vote, right? then your survey results are self predicted. what are your upper and lower control limits for the survey? or did you know your answer before you started, and wanted a way to 'prove it'?

you can't have your cake and eat it too. if you want to clean up the unregistered, then also take action to clean up sloppy posts by registered users.

for me personnally, it is actually more iritating to see unsearched posts and cross posts. i saw a couple of cross posts from registered users today. and can you believe there are still registered users asking where they can get decuma in today's threads. how funny, you ban the link but people still ask for it. you know that i don't distribute warez because i'm warez free, but feel free to ask where you can get it. nice.... oh and more sony bashing today as well. whatever happened to that registered poster who was was giving false palmgear team leader information? GNR is reappearing under a new name. did you stop him?

my whole point is, clean up all these garbage posts in general, and you'll see a clean forum.

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 06:38 PM

oh, and don't you love the registered users who ask almost daily for a cf faq? why don't they search and read the forum? sure some unregistered ask the same silly question, but what are you doing about the rest? if you 'fix' this problem, what is your next challange or are you happy? why is that there are always more visitors than users online? some say disable their search function. well then how are they going to look through the site and see if they want to join? why are there multiple threads all on the new car charger? talk about spending time vetting through the forums........what is being done about that? didn't someone search and see there was already a thread????

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 06:47 PM

there are 26 thousand registered users. why are they not all active? 66 have voted. that's point 2 percent.

maybe the push should be to get the inactive to become active - to contribute to the board or do they just download stuff? if so, what are you doing about the 'leachers'?

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 06:52 PM

"Thank you for the love it or leave it type of argument."

You're welcome. Notice that is you're and not your :).

Unregistered

08-05-2003, 06:58 PM

Interesting how when people run out of valid rebuts they always resort to using the word childish.

Name calling is a poor debating technique.

Byte Me

08-05-2003, 08:00 PM

i fail to understand why you will be blasted for asking where you can get warez (since this board does not host warez) -

yet we allow registered members to ask where they can get decuma files (since this board does not host copyright material). and if these same members say they did not know - why don't they read and search before asking where they can get a file?

a quick check shows 2 unregistered current posts - yet 4 posts on the new car charger, and one on decuma - all by registered members. when i want to quickly see the current posts - this is what irritates me a lot more than an unregistered user.

i fail to see why this of all things - if the most important suggestion for the board. isn't there anything more pressing? or if this is changed - then what will people complain about?

sebring

08-08-2003, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by s_n_m
how about instead of the name "unregistered" you see their email? :D

Better yet, why not their Social Security Number, Birth date, mother's maiden name, street address, phone number and a picture of them standing there naked.:D That should satisfy all those opposed to "unregistered".

OOPS, forgot to logout again.:D

Unregistered

08-09-2003, 11:56 AM

Yeah, that ought to satisfy the nosey bunch of biddies here ;).

How about it if the unregistered(s) will all register when the registered(s) learn how to spell?

Griff

08-09-2003, 05:10 PM

I wonder what nitwit would be harping on typos and misspellings. Whoever it is must be completely insecure and in fact afraid, a little child, to show their face around here. Now, as I am not attacking any individual, merely an unknown, I'll assume this is not a personal attack.

Unregistered

08-10-2003, 12:13 PM

Your posts are always good for a laugh.

Rob

08-10-2003, 12:29 PM

Why are we still arguing about this? Reggie/Joel, can't you implement an 'ignore all Unregistered users' in the profile section so that those who are annoyed by enough of them that they want to avoid all of them can, those who think they add more value than they distract can still see them, and those who prefer to stay anonymous but still participate in this forum can do so. Everyone wins.

AndrewClie

08-12-2003, 12:51 PM

The more points of view and answers the better.

Omnitron

08-12-2003, 01:45 PM

I've been on lots of forums - this is one of the first ones that I found that DID allow unregistered posts.

Given the tenedancy for some to post SPAM type promotions - I'd say its good for the board to have registered only posting.

zackepceo

08-15-2003, 03:44 PM

At least its not nearly as bad as the geek.com comment board system. ANYONE can take your name and post things. No regestration at all.

ebook junky

08-15-2003, 07:57 PM

This is the only forum I visit on a regular basis that will let those who have not registered post.

cbulock

08-16-2003, 12:16 AM

Same here

tovarish

08-16-2003, 02:31 PM

what difference does it make registered or unregistered the levels of anonymity are almost the same esp to the moderators who know the ip addresses of all users.
if we ban free speech then might as well begin dismantling the internet.
i personally think thats its the call of the owners of the website as its more trouble for them to remove erring posts from registered/unregistered users alike.

btw it takes <45 seconds to open a new account here and say what you like and no-ones wiser who you are except the mods who get your ip address which can be evaded using some kind of proxy etc.

Owners its great that you allow such great degrees of freedom at the cost of your time. keep it up guys.... freedom of anonymity and speech should be maintained

Defiant79

08-24-2003, 03:59 PM

Isn't there a way when logging out, the cookies from CliéSource will be completly erased? And then only let unregistered read and search, but no replying.

asterisk

09-20-2003, 04:59 PM

some people have said that you can't base this forum's overall opinion on those that have voted. What difference does that make? In any election in the USA barely HALF (if that) of potential voters actually participate. Does that mean that we have no right to make decisions because not everybody voted? HECK NO! if a person cares about this subject then they should vote. If they didn't vote, then it's their problem if they are unhappy w/ the results. They should have stood up and made there voices heard.

my $.02

PS: you can't call us elitist, because we give everybody an oppurotunity to register. It would only be elitist if there was some sort of selection process for those who are allowed to register:-P

Unregistered

09-20-2003, 05:07 PM

i don't know. i see threads almost daily from registered users of stuff like: can the os be upgraded, how do i use the compact flash, etc. you'd think there would be basic search and faq rules. i also see fighting between registered users. i see some still requesting warez or decuma (which as we all know is banned from distribution on this board, so it's like just pm me and you'll get it).

or how about registered users that are rushing by, like me at compusa, and don't want the extra step of signing in. call me lazy, sure. ban me, and yeah, it's my own choice, i just won't post anymore. and i am a senior member.

i simply can't believe this a burning issue. i think you have more than plenty of sloppy posts from registered users. perhaps registering shows more commitmment, but give me a break - how many of us actually use our real name or our real city.

or maybe we don't want others to know that we surf the web at work.

or how about the registered users with less than 5 posts in a year. think they might have registered just to download skins? tell me, what are you going to do with non-contributing registered users? and you have some unregistered that do contibute (and of course some who are rude, just like registered).

again, considering abuse of the board by some registered users, i can't believe this is the only thing people complain about (except also how bad sony support and best buy are). hey hey

Unregistered

09-20-2003, 05:18 PM

better hone your logic and debate skills, *

your behavior speaks louder than your words. btw, asterisk really tells me a whole lot about who you are. unregistered would mean as much.

"you can't call us elitist, because we give everybody an oppurotunity to register. It would only be elitist if there was some sort of selection process for those who are allowed to register:-P"

asterisk

09-23-2003, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered
better hone your logic and debate skills, *

your behavior speaks louder than your words. btw, asterisk really tells me a whole lot about who you are. unregistered would mean as much.

"you can't call us elitist, because we give everybody an oppurotunity to register. It would only be elitist if there was some sort of selection process for those who are allowed to register:-P"

Give me an example of my actions that shows me to be an "elitist"

If wanting to know who is the one who flames me is elitist, then I geuss I am. You flit in and out of the shadows attacking generally peaceful users who have opinions just like you, then you just "disappear" and noone is the wiser, except the mods, thus if the unreg who claims to be a senior member really is, the mods know him anyway. People like you are the most cowardly of all, pretending to be legitimate, but afraid to show who you trully are because of what "others might think"

PS- If you think I'm not generally a nice person, just check my posting in the off-topic forum. Oh wait, you can't you're not registered:p

Unregistered

03-08-2004, 07:39 PM

bump

winexprt

03-08-2004, 07:46 PM

Being able to get all the great info on here should be open to everyone. Posting replies and joining in the discussion should be the realm of registered members.

Bionic Antboy

03-08-2004, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered
or how about registered users that are rushing by, like me at compusa, and don't want the extra step of signing in. call me lazy, sure. ban me, and yeah, it's my own choice, i just won't post anymore. and i am a senior member.

i simply can't believe this a burning issue...

On the go users who REALLY need to post something of significance can take the few extra seconds to sign in, IMHO.

Despite your complaints about reg'd users abusing the board, the signal to noise ratio overall is MUCH higher with unreg'd.  It's not elitist to ask, as a common courtesy, to register to post.  No system is perfect, but out of all the boards I've been on, open boards tend to be the most noisy.

Just my .02

EDIT: I also agree that all the info, etc., be open to anyone.  Just identify yourself before saying anything. It's really the polite thing to do.  :)

Unregistered

03-08-2004, 08:19 PM

this hole topic makes no sense. whats the difference? go to any given chatroom and you know that people lie about there true backround, so registered or not makes no difference to me at all.
and yes, i am registered here, but just to lazy to do so for a quick drop in....fokes, just relax and enjoy our hobby`s, thats the reason we came here in the first place

dach95

03-08-2004, 08:34 PM

I believe people have a right to some sort of privacy if they choose to reserve when they still want to express their ideas. However moderators should pay more attention and weed out those who abuse the system by blocking those specific people.

ClieKun

03-08-2004, 08:49 PM

I wonder.................I guess some get-off posting as a unreg user.

winexprt

03-08-2004, 08:54 PM

Think so. Some get a rush not being able to be detected. Like little kids really, who like to hide behind masks and pretend no one can see them. I used to do that when I was 8 too.

hherbzilla

03-08-2004, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by Don M
I would prefer that they can only read posts and search. If they want to participate, then have them register. Simple as that. I concur!

ClieKun

03-08-2004, 08:56 PM

Win, there is a reason why I stay hidden, because of these types of posters. Oh well...........:(

lesliefranke

03-08-2004, 09:04 PM

Why do so many people have their panties in a wad over the registered/unregistered issue. If I have a problem or question, I want access to as many suggestions as possible. I don't care it the suggestion comes from a registered user or unregistered. Just because someone gave you an alias, you still don't know anymore about them than if they were just anonymous.

My thoughts exactly. Two points:

1. If you broke it down on a percentage basis, the unregistered user contributes more helpful posts to this forum that the registered user. If anything, it is certain registered users who are abusing this board. To get to something useful you continually have to wade through more and more useless posts and replies by registered users.

2. A LITTLE THICKER SKIN is an order. If someone says something you do not like, my suggestion is to move on. I would hope that other posters have no effect over your every day life and you do not develop your sense of worth from Cliesource.

in fact, i would draw a guess that because only 62 voted - it is actually not that big of deal for the majority of people, unless cs only has 100 people.

This tells you all you need to know about this thread. Another useless post clogging up Cliesource.

ClieKun

03-08-2004, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by lesliefranke

My thoughts exactly. Two points:

1. If you broke it down on a percentage basis, the unregistered user contributes more helpful posts to this forum that the registered user. If anything, it is certain registered users who are abusing this board. To get to something useful you continually have to wade through more and more useless posts and replies by registered users.

2. A LITTLE THICKER SKIN is an order. If someone says something you do not like, my suggestion is to move on. I would hope that other posters have no effect over your every day life and you do not develop your sense of worth from Cliesource.

you

But its the reg user posting as unreg users and trying to force some people off CS is the problem at times. But in the other hand some believe that having Unreg posters leads to " leaks " and other cutting edge facts. I don`t believe this a second.

You should bypass some post just like others do.

winexprt

03-08-2004, 09:15 PM

Originally posted by lesliefranke

My thoughts exactly. Two points:

1. If you broke it down on a percentage basis, the unregistered user contributes more helpful posts to this forum that the registered user.

Just curious...percentage basis of what? Helpful vs. unhelpful? That's quite subjective and hard to quantify and or qualify. What were the percentages you came up with to enable you to draw this conclusion? 60/40, 70/30%?

If this is truly the case, and unreg's are providing a higher percentage of 'useful' info, then why have people register at all? Let's just do away with the whole registration process if it truly doesn't matter. I'm not sure then what registering is supposed to accomplish?

ClieKun

03-08-2004, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by winexprt

Just curious...percentage basis of what? Helpful vs. unhelpful? That's quite subjective and hard to quantify and or qualify. What were the percentages you came up with to enable you to draw this conclusion? 60/40, 70/30%?

If this is truly the case, and unreg's are providing a higher percentage of 'useful' info, then why have people register at all? Let's just do away with the whole registration process if it truly doesn't matter. I'm not sure then what registering is supposed to accomplish?

can you believe this post.win!

Unregistered

03-08-2004, 09:26 PM

dach 95:
"I believe people have a right to some sort of privacy ..."

wow, no offense, but "some sort" ? that sounds like big broda.

ClieKun

03-08-2004, 09:28 PM

"big broda"???????
What the hell is that? Anyways...........forget it.

Unregistered

03-08-2004, 09:30 PM

cliekun, try reading, pick up a book from j. orwell...maybe u learn something

winexprt

03-08-2004, 09:31 PM

According to my percentage analysis, The breakthroughs on this site almost always come from registered members who have a commitment to, and a sense of community with their fellow members here whom they grow to know through interaction on a daily basis.

There is a sense of pride that comes with ownership, be it a house, car or a user name here that you have worked hard to garner a reputation with. That is lost with anonymous/unregistered posting. Knowing who you are talking with engenders a sense of community, of 'knowing one's neighbors' if you will, that every good neighborhood strives for. Also with user names, you can come to expect a level of knowledge and or expertise that you can then seek out with a PM or email or whatever...which again, is impossible if you have no idea with whom you are speaking and have no way to tell him/her from anyone else.

Transience is the shifting sand that erodes the good foundation of real life communities. It can do the same to on-line ones as well.

winexprt

03-08-2004, 09:35 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered
cliekun, try reading, pick up a book from j. orwell...maybe u learn something

Try learning how to spell unreg. It's "Big Brother" from '1984' by George Orwell. Not "Big Brodda" or whatever incomprehensible dribble you spewed.

Oh...and I like the fact you hid behind unreg as well. There aren't too many Men left I guess. Just little boys.

Unregistered

03-08-2004, 09:42 PM

geez, its slang and made in the U.S.A...., and by the way, the rangers love little boys becouse they are stupid enought to play war, thank you...

winexprt

03-08-2004, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered
geez, its slang and made in the U.S.A...., and by the way, the rangers love little boys becouse they are stupid enought to play war, thank you...

Spoken like a TRUE UNREG! ;) Keep going, this is great. You are living proof supporting our argument against unreg posting. Good work! Thanks!

Unregistered

03-08-2004, 09:49 PM

good work to you to, proud ranger, i did not hear any real answer

ClieKun

03-09-2004, 01:38 AM

Originally posted by winexprt
According to my percentage analysis, The breakthroughs on this site almost always come from registered members who have a commitment to, and a sense of community with their fellow members here whom they grow to know through interaction on a daily basis.

There is a sense of pride that comes with ownership, be it a house, car or a user name here that you have worked hard to garner a reputation with. That is lost with anonymous/unregistered posting. Knowing who you are talking with engenders a sense of community, of 'knowing one's neighbors' if you will, that every good neighborhood strives for. Also with user names, you can come to expect a level of knowledge and or expertise that you can then seek out with a PM or email or whatever...which again, is impossible if you have no idea with whom you are speaking and have no way to tell him/her from anyone else.

Transience is the shifting sand that erodes the good foundation of real life communities. It can do the same to on-line ones
as well.
Oh wow!
The perfect people with their perfect lives :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Win, you know this is not worth the fight.You have mores brains then they do :)
ClieKun