Battery II

[sonicboy]

I'm reading the UX50 manual cause I am a sick and twisted person.

It shows how to take out the internal battery and its really quite easy..

I guess that would kill the memory inside the device correct? whats to stopping someone with enough money to buy a spare internal battery from swapping them ala NX90?

[ricleo]

What's stopping someone from buying a spare internal battery and swapping them?... hmmm....nothing i guess, except that the UX uses a new battery that outside vendors do not have access to yet. I do not think that Sony will sell you an internal battery direct. Sony may replace them for you for a fee, but they will not sell you one directly.

2ndly, I think you need a screw driver at least to get access to the battery right? If u do not think its too troublesome to unscrew, replace battery and screw back the battery cover, I guess its an option for you.

Guess the loss of power temporarily will not be too bad for a UX since the UX allows you to have a back up of the RAM stored internally... but you still have to go through the process of restoring to internal RAM from that back up. I'm not sire how long it takes, but I guess I shouldn't be too difficult.

[sonicboy]

hmmm...

it would look a whole lot better than that huge *** pack hangin off the arse of the thing.. sony should have done this!

oh no, have I become one of those people that say "companyX should have done Y because it would benifit my personal applications of their product", gorsh, uhyuck!

[nauta]

Originally posted by sonicboy
I'm reading the UX50 manual cause I am a sick and twisted person.

That's not sick and twisted. I printed the entire thing out. >=P

[EdFrmBrighthand]

Theoretically, you can do this with any Sony. As ricleo said, you'd have to take your handheld apart with a screw driver. And I believe taking the battery out would do a hard reset, though you could restore with the built-in backup. And I don't know how you'd recharge the spare battery, though I suppose you could build your own recharger if you know what you're doing with a soldering iron.

So, all in all, I think this is possible but not practical.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by ricleo
What's stopping someone from buying a spare internal battery and swapping them?... hmmm....nothing i guess, except that the UX uses a new battery that outside vendors do not have access to yet. I do not think that Sony will sell you an internal battery direct. Sony may replace them for you for a fee, but they will not sell you one directly.

2ndly, I think you need a screw driver at least to get access to the battery right? If u do not think its too troublesome to unscrew, replace battery and screw back the battery cover, I guess its an option for you.

Guess the loss of power temporarily will not be too bad for a UX since the UX allows you to have a back up of the RAM stored internally... but you still have to go through the process of restoring to internal RAM from that back up. I'm not sire how long it takes, but I guess I shouldn't be too difficult.

If you closely at the internal pictures of the UX50, it looks like there is a second coin cell type battery included, that's not easily accessible. Might be there for the backup it makes when the main battery dies.

[ricleo]

Originally posted by n2ifp


If you closely at the internal pictures of the UX50, it looks like there is a second coin cell type battery included, that's not easily accessible. Might be there for the backup it makes when the main battery dies.

Hmmm...nice observation. Maybe that's really how the internal back up of the UX works. Coin cell type batteries last between 1-3 years, so after that the internal back up will fail too, and the battery will have to be replaced by Sony.

Haha, wonder how much Sony will charge to replace a coin cell type battery... but anyway, don't think most users will keep a pda for more than that battery lasts.

[newyorktd]

Where can you find the UX manual?

:::Off to look:::

[EdFrmBrighthand]

Originally posted by newyorktd
Where can you find the UX manual?

:::Off to look:::
It is included with the FCC approval. You can download it
here (https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/oet/forms/reports/Search_Form.hts?mode=Edit&form=Exhibits&application_id=269570&fcc_id=AK8PEGUX50)

[SumDumGuy]

I think your coin battery is the speaker.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by ricleo


Hmmm...nice observation. Maybe that's really how the internal back up of the UX works. Coin cell type batteries last between 1-3 years, so after that the internal back up will fail too, and the battery will have to be replaced by Sony.

Haha, wonder how much Sony will charge to replace a coin cell type battery... but anyway, don't think most users will keep a pda for more than that battery lasts.

In today's non-volatile memory schemes, the Lithium battery coin cells can last 10 years or more. I have 2 way communication gear that are over 10 years old and the Lithium coin cell hasn't been replaced.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by SumDumGuy
I think your coin battery is the speaker.

If your referring to the last picture of just a shell with the round disc having red and black wires, yes that's the speaker.

What I see is in the fourth picture down under a circuit board on the opposite side from where the speaker is. It alsmost looks similar to the speaker, but it's not and it's silver. There where some other pictures of the Clie in a clear case where I originally had spotted it.

[ricleo]

Originally posted by n2ifp


In today's non-volatile memory schemes, the Lithium battery coin cells can last 10 years or more. I have 2 way communication gear that are over 10 years old and the Lithium coin cell hasn't been replaced.

Hmmmm....that's strange...the coin type battery in my computer lasted 2.5 yrs and died on me... maybe different grades of batteries were used.

[cbulock]

In my Windows CE handheld, if you took the main battery's out, the coin type battery would only last a month or so.

[n2ifp]

In those situations yes! I didn't mean to say it definitely would, but in other memory devices it does, that's all ;)

[SumDumGuy]

Larry - are you referring to one of those button things that's soldered onto the circuit board?

[Unregistered]

In reading the User Guides, posted with the FCC at the previously-mentioned url, you'll see it references replacing the coin-type battery.

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by SumDumGuy
Larry - are you referring to one of those button things that's soldered onto the circuit board?

It's silver, round, looks similar to the speaker, but much shinier underneath the one loose circuit board. The magnify option in Adobe Reader makes it nice for a close up view.

[greg elmassian]

you should be able to buy the battery from the sony parts guys, but it will probably take a while to get the part number and get someone to help you... but taking it out and swapping it seems to be too much of a pain to do on a regular basis..

greg

[neil@domino.org]

One good thing is that it uses the same power adaptor from the TG-50 so I'm happy as I bought a couple of spares, and its 110/240 switchable. Looks like i need to find a reason to goto the US in the next couple of months :D

Cheers,
Neil