Sample Pics from NX??

[Rosenkrantz]

This is what I need to see. I alreayd have a 2.1 mp camera but I wouldn't mind carrying just a pda instead of a pda and a camera. But my Olympus camera takes beautiful shots. The NZ would have to take reall really nice pictures for me to upgrade.

Anyone have samples taken from the NZ? Inside, outside, action shots (fast moving kids, etc..). That's the true test. I find that my NX can't handle movement in less than pure daylight.

[ArK]

the only 1 I know of is at the brighthand website. He took one and the quality really was great. THe only thing is that your olympus might have a better zoom

[davy19]

The quality was so so IMO..there was a lot of noise

[eric2002]

so so? I think the picture quality is awesome... perfect for anything I could imagine using it for. I never print at larger than 4x6 and I read that the NZ prints great at up to 5x7. The quality in my opinion equals that of any 2 megapixel camera I've ever seen and used. I've used a few Kodak models, a Fugi, and a Canon I believe it was. This is just as good, I can not see a difference. Great photo, I bet it will even take better photos in better lighting, this didn't look like a flash was used (no reflections, glares, etc). So I would say it performed extremely well even in less than ideal lighting.

[davy19]

If there was no flash taken, then I agree it was pretty good, but if there was a flash, I dont think it was too good...lets hope it is

[oneeyesquare]

All I see is that big gravy spill down the side of the spinning table thingy!!!

[dks99]

To me it looks like the picture was taken WITH a flash.

- If you look closely there are strong highlights on anything close to the clie.

- Corner of the metalic case at the bottom is almost completely white (it was closest to the clie's flash).

- Also look at the difference in darkness of the table cloth close to the clie and farther to the right.

- The shadows of the glasses go in different direction than the shadow of the Sony camera on the right - indicating a very close light source.

Unless the guy sitting at this end of the table had a big spotlight right in his face... :)


here is the link (again :)
http://www.brighthand.com/images/Clie_photo_sample.jpg


Cheers
dks

[LITTLESIX]

there's a reflection in the bottom of the wine glass. kinda looks like a man taking a picture ;)

[davy19]

Yeah it does look like a flash was used, I hope I was wrong...well if I am right then I know it aint worth to spend $800...

[cjones]

Well maybe somebody who can get a hold of Ed (who took the picture) can tell us himself if the flash was used. :)

I'm still waiting on the 2nd review of the NZ like Ed said in his initial posting to ask the cliesource folks for questions:

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1105

-chris

[eric2002]

Flash or no flash, I think the picture the NZ took was awesome. I think it equals the quality of most all 2 mega pixel cameras out there. I would be extremely happy with it's picture taking abilities. Also this is a HUGE (or FAT!) if you prefer improvement for a PDA's photo taking abilities. I've used the 640x480 camera on the Hanspring Visor line and the Sony NX, neither come close even remotely close to this quality.

[davy19]

Originally posted by eric2002
Flash or no flash, I think the picture the NZ took was awesome. I think it equals the quality of most all 2 mega pixel cameras out there. I would be extremely happy with it's picture taking abilities. Also this is a HUGE (or FAT!) if you prefer improvement for a PDA's photo taking abilities. I've used the 640x480 camera on the Hanspring Visor line and the Sony NX, neither come close even remotely close to this quality.



No way does that quality come close to my Olympus 2100 which is also a 2 Megapixel camera. With or without flash.


I also cannot imagine it matching it, but because it is the NZ is small.

It is just for $800 I want it to be a camera I would use all the time, otherwise if I still have to carry my 2100 why bother getting it.

[eric2002]

a camera is made to take photos, and your olympus most likely does take better photos. However the NZ takes very good 2mega pixel photos in my opinion. In addition to taking good photos, the NZ plays mp3s, stores programs, plays movies and games, surfs the web, etc...
The NZ is a great all around device... I would say it's like a BMW... sporty yet luxurious... your Olympus is like a Ferrari, great... very great at one thing, and one thing only..

[EdFrmBrighthand]

The flash was used. The room wasn't very bright.

Full review coming later today (Monday) with more sample images. Check www.brighthand.com

[davy19]

Thanks ED,

I was afraid you would say that, means inside images are going to be very noisy even with flash....oh well.

[cjones]

I honestly don't get folks getting bummed out because of the flash-used picture not being what they'd hoped it be.

The way I see it, if you're going to buy the NZ (I'm hoping I can use my extended warranty to upgrade my NR) you're not buying it for the 2 megapixel camera. You're buying it because it's a piece of hardware that's got an awful lot of PDA bells & whistles all wrapped up in one package.

That is *EXACTLY* why I want it. I'm not planning on getting it because I need a digital camera (although it's gonna be nice having a better quality one on hand). I'm not buying it because I need something to surf wi-fi on.

I'm buying it because it's got both those things along with a killer screen, the capability of up to a 1Gb memory stick, running OS5, fast processor, a clamshell design (which I happen to like) and it's by a company that's gonna be around for the long-haul.

All of that combined is why I love Sony... even though they do a great job of pissing me off from time to time... :) They still make some darn neat products!

Stepping of my soapbox now,

-chris

[davy19]

then cjones, may as well get a NX70, becase for the $200 less you get almost everything the same except for 2mp camera (which is not so good as I hoped), and bluetooth


i dont see why anyone would spend $800 on this if they are not really interested in the 2 mp camera, plus getting a pda size of a brick

[eric2002]

It's funny how two people can look at the same photograph so differently, I personally think the photo taken' with the NZ is a very good photo. I don't agree at all that the photo is "grainy" as stated on an earlier post. The photos from the NX were grainy and very poor quality in my opinion.

[Molerat]

Ed's new photos indicate a camera that is sufficient for anything I'd ever want, short of wedding photos (in which case, I'll have a professional photographer ;)). Still, I can't justify the cost!

[cjones]

Well justifying the cost *is* probably one of the most important reasons to buy/not buy. I am hoping to use my extended warranty, so the cost isn't so much.

But I use my PDA *extensively* at work... so in years past of purchasing a PDA I've written it off on my taxes as a business expense. :) Well, technically I didn't do that since I don't do my taxes. But I also make a good salary, so I can afford to have somebody else do it just like I can afford the expensive toy.

But then we've all got stuff that we spend a lot of money on that others would think is insane... right? :)

-chris

[ArK]

cjones. what is this about the extended warrenty. Are you usinga previous warrenty on the new product? I don't see how it will help you upgrade. Also where did u get it from? I'm going ot need one and the only one I read anythigna obut tis macks 3 yr for like $30. Thanks

[davy19]

Originally posted by eric2002
It's funny how two people can look at the same photograph so differently, I personally think the photo taken' with the NZ is a very good photo. I don't agree at all that the photo is "grainy" as stated on an earlier post. The photos from the NX were grainy and very poor quality in my opinion.


Yes the photos are grainy in poor light on the NX, but I expect that from a 300,000 cmos pixel camera.

But from a 2 MegaPixel CCD, you dont expect any noise especially when using a flash, especially when the camera costs $800.

I am not a professional photographer per se, but I can tell the difference between quality on photos.

[peterh]

im wondering whether that picture has been resaved and compressed in another program, before putting it on the net?

i will be getting one. I didn't think it was worth upgrading to an NX but the NZ offers that bit more

[dks99]

Here's the way I see it:

I have a 4Mp Olympus (e-10) camera. Its an SLR camera with great zoom, focus and all the other professional stuff you would want. I plan to use that REAL camera for taking high quality pictures.

However I can see hundreds of situations where it would be nice to have a smaller camera where pictures don't need to be stellar perfect.

To me the PDA/Camera combination is a great compromise between size,portability and picture quality...

[cjones]

Originally posted by ArK
cjones. what is this about the extended warrenty. Are you usinga previous warrenty on the new product? I don't see how it will help you upgrade. Also where did u get it from? I'm going ot need one and the only one I read anythigna obut tis macks 3 yr for like $30. Thanks

I've talked to folks directly at CompUSA and they said that I could (when the NZ wasn't out yet and they only had the NX in stock) purchase a warranty from *them* (even though I already had one w/Circuit City), then pay the minimal fee to trade my NR in and get the NZ. She said many people have done it.

So I figure I should be able to do the same thing at Circuit City (plus I've seen folks on here say they've done just that). But worst case I just pay a little $$$ for a new warranty with CompUSA and then trade up.

I wouldn't feel so confident that I could do this if I hadn't talked to a person behind the little customer service counter at a CompUSA near me.

-chris

[ArK]

thanks