OK, got a new Clié, so where do I go from here?

[Tenex]

Has anyone set out what can be removed from a Clie or where to store stuff for optimum use? The Clie is down to a mere 3.5Mb (without add in cards).

Also are there any essential patches I should add to a new Clie NX70?

That last question should really be accompanied with "what essential apps should I get for the new toy, err business machine"?


:D

[ricleo]

maybe you should check out this thread :)
http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18812

Welcome to the NX family!

[Tenex]

I already have but it doesn't really answer these questions for eg. it suggests some software resources but not essential patches; it suggests some apps but not why they are better than the installed stuff (eg ZLauncher gets mentioned a lot but it's never expained why its better).

[CanopicJar]

It is going to be kind of difficult for someone to tell you which launcher will be best for you. A launcher is really something you will need to test out to see which one you like. I have used silverscreen in the past with my IIIc, but since I moved to the NX80, I have been using (and loving) ZLauncher. It is very customizable as far as its appearance and it has many nice functions.

[ricleo]

essential patches for the NX70 are the US system patches and the MsPro patch all available from the sonystyle support page... no time to go get the link for you here..sorry! If you want the flash player to work with mp3 sound, download the flash player update too...

[Tenex]

Originally posted by ricleo
essential patches for the NX70 are the US system patches and the MsPro patch all available from the sonystyle support page... no time to go get the link for you here..sorry! If you want the flash player to work with mp3 sound, download the flash player update too...

There you see, there IS essential info just waiting to be divulged. ;) Thanks

[lthwc]

Originally posted by ricleo
essential patches for the NX70 are the US system patches and the MsPro patch all available from the sonystyle support page... no time to go get the link for you here..sorry! If you want the flash player to work with mp3 sound, download the flash player update too...
Here's the link: http://www.ita.sel.sony.com/support/clie/nx70v/softupdates/

[lthwc]

Originally posted by Tenex
... it suggests some apps but not why they are better than the installed stuff (eg ZLauncher gets mentioned a lot but it's never expained why its better).
It's cheaper, it has more features, it has better support, and it's updated more frequently.

[Eddy]

you can delete the clie demo & that will free some space, & it'll come back after a hard-reset, so not to worry. :)

I'd recommend JackFlash & PowerRUN, not sure if they would be essential though. :D

[Eddy]

& there're a few CF Slot hacks out there, if you would like to expand the storage of the NX70 by utilizing the CF Slot with a CF Card. All you have to do is search in the CompactFlash Forum. :eek:

[Tenex]

Thanks guys, all welcome contributions.

[*YellowRose*]

Originally posted by Tenex
I already have but it doesn't really answer these questions for eg. it suggests some software resources but not essential patches; it suggests some apps but not why they are better than the installed stuff (eg ZLauncher gets mentioned a lot but it's never expained why its better). I suggest doing a search for 'favorites' in the NX forum only - you'll get some helpful threads about software. The old posts are an excellent resource, I suggest starting at the beginning. :D

[Tenex]

Good point - I'd have never got it without the new fangled spelling of "favourite". ;)

[cbulock]

Another reason ZLauncher is good, is if you don't already have PowerRun, it has the same function built-in. I saved about 3MB of space in RAM because of that. Also JackFlash let me save another 4.5MB.

[Eddy]

by the way, congradulations with your new NX! :D

[Tenex]

Originally posted by Eddy
by the way, congradulations with your new NX! :D Thanks, it's great fun but I feel I've unwrapped it and not yet got near to tapping its potential. :D The Palm OS is completely new to me.

[Eddy]

I would say you'll be busy the next coming several of days. so many things to discover..! :D

[Tenex]

Originally posted by ricleo
essential patches for the NX70 are the US system patches and the MsPro patch all available from the sonystyle support page... no time to go get the link for you here..sorry! If you want the flash player to work with mp3 sound, download the flash player update too... Ricleo - just to clarify this: should I install the US patch for MP3 etc on a UK NX70?

[breakfastchef]

Install all updates and patches for your unit from the Sony site specific to your country.

Go slowly if this is your first Clie. Learn to use the unit as shipped from the factory and determine what you would like for it to do.

Then search for applications that address your needs. Test, experiement, reset and have fun. No one has a gun to your head and you have a huge learning curve to master.

Try every bit of software you can. This is what is so great about the Palm OS world. There are tons of freeware and shareware apps out there to keep you busy for months.

Larry

[Eddy]

Originally posted by breakfastchef
Install all updates and patches for your unit from the Sony site specific to your country.
Larry's got a point. :)

[ricleo]

Haha, yeap, install updates specific to your country, that's the safest way to go. I told you the US patches coz I didn't know which country you were from. But I think that as long as you install the updates from a country using English Rom in the Palm OS, you should be fine. MY unit is from Singapore, and I install all my patches from the Sony USA site. The Sony Singapore site is much slower in updating their support page. I don't know about the speed/efficiency of Sony UK.

[n2ifp]

Some patches don't work if you download from the wrong region, the MS Pro driver is one example. Just because it says English, doesn't make it American. I didn't find any updates for the NX80 yet though...

[ricleo]

Yeap, no updates for the NX80 yet. Hopefully there'll be a landscape Netfront update for the 80 soon enough.

[Tenex]

Originally posted by breakfastchef
Install all updates and patches for your unit from the Sony site specific to your country.

This is going to be interesting beause I can't find ANY patches at all on the UK site. There are tutorials, how-to's, etc., but no patches or downloads available that I can see. Surely this can't be correct? Is there a UK member who can point out the patch download pages or do we genuinely not have any?



Ricleo: I think I may go your route of installing the US patches if there are no UK specific ones.

[cbulock]

Here's the direct link for the patches for the NX70 on the UK site. It was under the support link.

http://www.clie-link.com/UK/updates.asp?ID=884&submenu=updates.asp&mainmenu=compatibility.asp

[Tenex]

Thanks! Missed it what with all the tutorials etc..


edit:
wow, viewer's performace has improved after patching....

[Tenex]

OK, I've eventually got my new Lexar MS with the cute LED now I need some more advice.

How should I organise my Clié? What should be stored on the Clié and what on the MS (or CF - I have spares of those)?

Should I reorganise the NX70 as is, or should I hard reset and start there instead?

Do I need to backup to the MS (it's hot sync'd t the desktop already) and if so how?

So many questions still ... ;)

[Tenex]

*BUMP*

What no advice? Maybe a FAQ somewhere on the 'net?

[ricleo]

Haha...hmmm.....what do u mean by reorganize the NX70 as it is or hard reset? If u hard reset, all the updated patches will be wiped out from memory. So hard resets are usually a no no for a NX70 if u dun wanna go thru the hassles of reinstalling all the patches for MSPro and system patches etc...

[Tenex]

Actually I was hoping you experts would tell which was better: hard reset or reorganise.

Assuming you think it's the latter, what would you suggest?

[ricleo]

As for what should be stored on the MS/CF, here's my take on things.

Firstly, keep apps you use frequently that you need to be loaded up immediately in the palm internal memory. For apps that you do not need immediate loading, keep them in your MS Palm/programs/launcher folder to run them direct off the card. The Clie will copy the PRC to RAM when u use the programs in that folder and delete from RAM when you're finished with it. So the loading takes some time.

Opps...forgot something important. Keep a back up copy of the system and MSpro patch on a regular MS. If you go thru a hard reset, you can simply copy the files back over into the Clie for easy access.

The MS is more reliable compared to the CF. So keep more important files you don't wanna lose on the MS. Keep stuff that you can easily replace, like MP3s and Movies on the CF.

[ricleo]

Originally posted by Tenex
Actually I was hoping you experts would tell which was better: hard reset or reorganise.

Assuming you think it's the latter, what would you suggest?

Wow..you're fast. I was still typing the second response...  If you want to delete inecessary stuff and start afresh on your CLIE, you can actually Hard Reset , reinstall the patches, and then reinstall the apps you want one by one.

[Tenex]

I'll go your suggested route of reorganising.

Sorry if this is a really silly question but - is there a "drag & drop" method of moving existing stuff to the MS and will any associated files also be moved?

A directory structure has been created automatically on the MS - I assume apps should go in the programs folder? (Related question: Confusingly there are 2 Cliealbum folders \images\cliealbum and \programs\Cliealbum are both needed?)




[ couldn't resist putting some MP3s on the MS - must now move them to CF as I need the space - but I was really surprised how good the playback is (through Koss SportaPros) ]

[ricleo]

Clie album features, I'm not sure as I personally do not use the Clie Album functions.

Drag and drop? from the MS to the internal memory or vice versa, nope. You can use Clie files to transfer your existing stuff to the MS. If you want to run apps from MS, place them in the Palm/programs/launcher folder as I've mentioned earlier. Note that only the main app PRC goes into MS. The settings/preference/ associated files still have to remain on the RAM.

Other stuff you can store on the MS to save RAM will be stuff like E books, Bible volumes, etc that take up more space. For the exact folders to store these stuff, you need to check each individual app for where it searches the MS for the files.

[Tenex]

Thanks Richard that's freed up another 20%+ of Clié RAM!

I'm getting the hang of this thing slowly ... with help from Cliésource experts!