point blank: Will you buy the UX

[dante21]

Ok here it is will you or will you not buy one of these PDAs. If you have enough time please state why or why not, it is interesting to hear why you guys like and don't like stuff. I would buy it because that is the main reason I use my PDA. Yeah I have addressess and such in it but I am always around and want to check my email (main reason for buying the NX70v). I will not buy it now for two reasons:
1. I am waiting for Palm OS 6
2. It's 699!

Now if it were like 400 or 500 dollars I may consider it but until that time I will just play with it when I go into best buy (like with the NZ90 and TC)

[myboyethan]

No, I'll wait awhile longer since I only bought my NX70 only three months ago. It does everything I need!

[ksjenkins]

Yes! It fits my Net Addiction perfectly! And besides my N760 is at the 18month technology limit.

[dante21]

Originally posted by ksjenkins
Yes! It fits my Net Addiction perfectly! And besides my N760 is at the 18month technology limit.

So I see you are addicted also!

[terrycg]

Just voted no. Pretty much the same reasons:

1. Too much money
2. OS6 to come
3. Really love the screen size as well as resolution on the NX series.
4. I read a lot with it in my hand and use it standing up if I'm outside WiFi spots and in a hurry so narrower is probably better.
5. I like my CF slot.

As others have said, an interesting new series, but I'm not in a hurry to upgrade (still love my NX60) and am perfectly happy to wait and see what happens over the next 6-9 months or so.

There seem to be lots of new toys for the existing NX's, which both support the third party developers and enhance my current Clie. That also keeps me happy...

[dante21]

Yeah I just don't see a reason to jump on this right now. But if it drops in price by about 200 bucks (I can dream right).

[a_clie_er]

Nope not buying it as well.. for the following reasons.

My TG50 is 1 month old and does what i need.
Waiting for NEW BATTERY technology called Silver Polymer which provides all day WiFi
read it at ~~>> http://www.zmp.com/cme.htm
Waiting for OS6 as it is only few months away.
Waiting for bigger screen size and want a vertical not landscape.
New LCD screen technology is emerging. (OLED??)
Waiting for 801. g stardard WiFi on PDA
Waiting for 128 MB ram.
Waiting for CF and MS both on device.
and last not least saving for a clie that has all that.

[NJL!2016]

hell yeah! just look @ my signature \/

[keesercc]

I will wait for UX version 2.0 before I decide to change. NR -> NX all the things I needed.

[perry_riposte]

Already bought it. Promised myself I'd buy the first Clie with built-in Wi-Fi (to replace my quickly aging NR-70). Indeed, I wish it was $100-200 cheaper, but I figure my inflated investment now will pave the way for the rest of you later.

[Jezlyn]

A resounding yes! :)

I have had an NR70 for a long while now, waiting to upgrade it and I almost went for the TG50 (it's so pretty! :) ). I also almost went for the NX60 when it went on sale at a bunch of places. I thought it would be a great upgrade since I could use the CF slot for extra memory, but I can't get over the design of the UX50. I think it looks great, is awesome for having both Wi-Fi and BT, and most important to me, it's pretty small. While I have enjoyed using my NR70 for all sorts of things, I've often wanted a smaller Clie (yes, I agree that Sony should produce a T-series hi-res+ device; that fake TW20 looked cool) because I found myself using my NR70 in tablet mode most of the time (I really like VG and used the VG version of MessageEase for my text input).

The UX50 is a refreshing change of pace for me. I admire the T3, as well as the new NX series devices (almost sprang for the NX73 when I decided to wait for the press release), but the UX50 just grabs me. Sony Clies are like Chicago weather. If you don't like it, just wait a little bit and it might change to your liking. :D

[greg elmassian]

No, too slow, too big, landscape mode not utilized in most apps, and no CF slot..

[Quantumduck]

I use my collapsable keyboard often, and having a keyboard that will approximate touch typing (albiet one or two finger typing) definitely is a plus in my book.  I will probably end up installing a WiFi router in my home to allow me to surf from my living room.

My SJ-30 is the first palm OS machine I have had, and it has been a great machine, but it is time to upgrade, and the additional memory, the ability to surf and type in landscape mode are definite selling points.  The larger screen will make my spreadsheets much usable, and it will be easier to read the Word to Go files I have.  All in all, just about everything I could want for.  I have already decided just upon my usage of the SJ-30 that a laptop is extraneous and expensive hardware that is no longer needed.  The UX just pushes the laptop further away for me.

The QuantumDuck

[archangel]

I will, but not at the $699 price point. I bought my NR70 and NX 60 when they dropped to $349. I will wait this one out and see if it drops in price a few months after release.

The NZ is now $599 so eventually the UX will be cheaper. My biggest complaint is giving up the CF slot, but hopefully MS Pro will continue to drop in price.

If I can get a UX50 for $399 then I will buy it. That may take awhile though.

[MythoFactory]

NO, nope, non, nada, ie. awful design, tiny screen, software isn't updated, and it bet that Palm, Inc. will release the device I've always dreamed of.

[newyorktd]

I will buy it if somebody lends me $700...

;)

Thanks in Advance.

[GummyDancer]

Originally posted by MythoFactory
NO, nope, non, nada, ie. awful design, tiny screen, software isn't updated, and it bet that Palm, Inc. will release the device I've always dreamed of.

Then you will lose the softwares that only Sony's PDA have......

[yOyOYoo]

Don't Buy it! YOU guys will regret it when the UX60 comes out!

Imagine all the Nr70 owners and their disappointment when the NX series came out with the new OS and much more feature changes.

The UX60 is going to be OS 6 and will come out 3 months after the UX50 and will make the UX50 look worse than the NX series made the NR series. Trust me on this!

[Unregistered]

no, since i have a nz90. look at most of the people wanted to buy this - they have nr's, etc. not people with nz90 or nx70. i'm talking about the majority of responses so far.

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by GummyDancer


Then you will lose the softwares that only Sony's PDA have......

I think I can do without.

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by GummyDancer


Then you will lose the softwares that only Sony's PDA have......

...and I will gain all the cool software of Palm devices, AND the freedom the developers have with those devices...

[OcellNuri]

I keep flip flopping. Built in WiFi is just soooooooooooooo attractive to me. Especially moving on campus this year, where WiFi will be everywhere. Also, I feel if Wordsmith is updated to 480x320, my formatting in papers will better be displayed, and editing will be easier. Also, this seems to be more compact than my NX70V, especially without the WiFi card sticking out.

Then, on the other hand, I see that my NR70V can already do WiFi, edit word files, and has the same resolution camera. So it's hard to justify an upgrade.

But then on the OTHER hand, I want a new toy as always!

I'm undecided right now. We'll see how much I fall in love when I hold it in my hands.

[PEG-SJ30]

If you don't buy a UX, you're not a true sony fan. :(

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by PEG-SJ30
If you don't buy a UX, you're not a true sony fan. :(

I agree qith you I AM NOT a sony fan at ALL. I buy a device if it is the closest to what I want to do with it. I don't care about its brand. And the only thing that made me buy CLIEs was the HiRes + screen. Sony policy of non-disclosure SUCKS. Sony exclusion of Apple computers SUCKS.
If Palm releases the T3 as it is rumored, then I'll go to Palm without hesitation.

[MartinWhite]

It looks REALLY COOL. I love the landscape display and keyboard, that folds out like a mini laptop. I currently have a t665c that does every thing I need. If I did not have a wife (who does wear pants ;-) I would buy it. I would have also bought all the intermediate models NX, NZ, TG.

Like others have said $600 is steep for a pda. I might get a used one it the price drop to around $300-$350.

Martin D. White

[rpungin]

I voted No. I got my NX80V couple of days ago just before I saw the announcement of the UX. But I am still happy I got my NX. I like the portrait orientation because it allows me to use one hand for all button operations. Also I like the CF support. I can just take out the CF card from my Canon S230 and stick it into NX and use AcidImage to see the pix. Finally 1.3 Megapixel camera is a big advantage.

[dante21]

Yeah like you said I would get it but I just got my NX70v and over 600 dollars when my NX70v does the same freaking thing not right now but when the Palm 6 version comes out I will be all over that!

[likestech]

I want the UX50 too, but with OS6.0 coming out this year, only a sucker would buy a new model clie for 600.00 running OS5.

[yOyOYoo]

I agree STRONGLY with likestech. don't be a sucker and buy the UX50!

sony will realize all the bugs the UX50 has when it comes out and will fix them with the UX60 and OS6 4 months later. You heard it from me first.

[elf]

No, not yet.

Reasons:

1. it's version 1.0 (never buy version 1.0 of anything)
2. OS5
3. I just got an SJ33 4 months ago and I love it because it does everything I want.

After the product matures (12 months or so), I will consider it.

It also depends on how popular WiFi spots become in Toronto. Right now there is a free hotspot at the train station-- and that's it! No downtown cafe has one, either for free or tolled.

[n2ifp]

I really like the design and layout for ME! The keyboard on most of the other Clies are terrible. The widescreen for browsing, email, and Wordprocessing appeal to me, especially if it has WiFi. The lack of a CF slot or a fancy camera is not important. The cost is not a concern. I would like the UX to have a slightly bigger screen and school is still out yet on how it performs, speed wise.

Besides, the NX is now boring to look at :D!

[dannn]

yes i would buy this, if i ahd the money
but then again i would buy anything if i had the money

[riversen]

No, because the actually physical screen size is smaller... read this:

While their display is the same resolution as the one used in the NX series of handhelds, Sony has slightly reduced the physical size of the screen to 3.2 inches when measured diagonally, while the NX series' screens are 3.8 inches.

From Brighthand (see below).

(http://www.brighthand.com/article/Sony_Announcing_Wireless_Handheld_on_Friday)

[brandonjr86]

after buying the nx73 to me there is no reason to upgrade. i will wait and have to see if they have a new nz90 model and i will get that.

[brandonjr86]

oh yeah another raseon why i wont buy it is because of the price tag.i rather get the nz90.

[Caffeine kid]

The CPU is too slow. I want the 400mhz intel chip in the new Tungsten C or the Tungsten T3 (when it comes out).


The Tungsten C is most likely my next Pda. It has the wifi and the 400 mhz with the 51megs of user memory.

[Unregistered]

"The cost is not a concern. "

Maybe you can help this guy out.

newyorktd
Junior Member

Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Metropolitan NY
Posts: 28
I will buy it if somebody lends me $700...



Thanks in Advance.

[rened]

Originally posted by Caffeine kid
The Tungsten C is most likely my next Pda. It has the wifi and the 400 mhz with the 51megs of user memory.

It would be for me too, if it had hires+. But that will be fixed in the TC2, march 2004 :-) Including OS6 of course

[ballistic]

No.

1. Bought my NX70V in November '02.
2. WL100 card.
3. Stowaway XT Keyboard.

My upgrade cycle is about 2 years no matter what else comes out. I will not get caught in the constant upgrade mentality; you end up spending way too much money.

Plus, I really don't see the need to 'upgrade' to the UX;

1. No portrait orientation, absolutely necessary in tablet mode.
2. Keyboard; still too small for touch typing.

I can surf the web wirelessly on my NX70V, surf and post on the forums while typing on the XT keyboard. The UX really doesn't offer me any capabilities that I don't have with my NX/WL100/XT keyboard, while giving up portrait mode and the (limited) CF slot.

[dante21]

Originally posted by dannn
yes i would buy this, if i ahd the money
but then again i would buy anything if i had the money

You got that right

[macktv]

I'd buy it as it is pretty much exactly like me first pda the Siemens IC35 which was the first to come out with this kind of design about 3-4 years ago. It even included a smart card slot which would work like a credit card over WAP services in Germany. Of course Sharp copied the design and so all you guys think they were the first but you're very wrong. Bottom line is I like the fact that I can have a keyboard and touchscreen without it being a brick. Only thing is the price which I would never pay, even if I had the money and the fact that it is version one. As someone already said, it's never worth buying version one.

One more thing though, as my phone is Bluetooth with GPRS I don't have the need for Wi-FI so I'd really actually get the UX40 which I hope will sell at a good price in europe although considering the fact that I doubt many people over here would go for the WI-FI anyway they might just actually push the price up on this one...

[Seow May]

I'm waiting for possible NZ90 replacement!

[ricleo]

NO UX for me :) Love my NX80v and will get the next OS6 NX model... or a NZ replacement if it's smaller.

[Unregistered]

I bought it. I've been waiting a long time for a PDA such as this - I'm an old HP 200LX user.

[mattyj2002]

No.

Im waiting for the OS6 devices, hopefully with a nice ~400mhz Intel Processor, and >~64mb RAM (useable).

Besides, hate the design and small screen, uuugh!:mad:

[cass_m]

Yes but not right away. I'm hoping for an upgrade for Christmas and so far this looks the best for me and by then the price should have dropped into a reasonable range.

Hey you only said get the UX - not when:D

[UKClieBoy]

I will certainly buy the UX-50 when I move to Japan. I still use an N770 here in the UK and it does me fine with the BT MS. The addition of WiFi will allow me to easily browse the net in Japan whenever I need to get info or whatever. Currently this is beyond the scope of services offered in the UK, hence no need to upgrade over here (not to mention the cost of Clies in the UK anyway!).

I also like the form factor (smaller than the NX series - thickness not an issue), with the widescreen layout and the keyboard. The low res camera is a bit of fun when I don't have my camcorder or digi cam with me, but I don't need an NX 80 or NZ 90 cam in a Clie at all. The built-in connectivity means that the MS slot is free for storage and a Pro stick will do just fine for me! I have a dedicated music player and so don't need to use the Clie for that.

Overall, the UX is pretty much what I have been waiting for! Mostly it is the form factor that appeals to me, plus the WiFi.

[Orincarnia]

ok, finally after i dont' know how many posts, i was thinking "OS 6 comes out very VERY soon, and the UX doesn't ship till september......doesn't it mean it'll have os 6? or am i mistaken?

i'll admit that the wide edge to the screen is a bit ghetto, but the wide screen viewing of pictures is the one thing i wish i could do with the pictures on the nx's, rotating the picture between taking it and showing it is a little unatractive when showing the device off

and the side memory stick slot is the same place as on my laptop, so its a detail thats all cool, but whats up with that hole on the end.......it looks like its meant to attach to somethign but it would only snag stuff in my pocket......

but the UX is sexy i must admit

[Enceladus]

Yes. I'll get one for the built in Wifi and widescreen design.
It'll be a nice contrast from having the NZ with me always.

[Jeffry]

I want it but it costs too much. I really wish Sony could cut down on the cost by not including that stupid crappy camera.

[Orincarnia]

hmmmmm i would agree normally but that stupid camera comes in handy at the stupidest times (not mocking your words or anything)

[Jeffry]

Originally posted by Orincarnia
hmmmmm i would agree normally but that stupid camera comes in handy at the stupidest times (not mocking your words or anything)

Well you have to pay for it, and the resolution at VGA is what makes it useless.

[TheZodiac]

Expect the UX series to be the first devices release in the sony line to use OS6.

I voted no.

[acraniotes]

I'm still on the fence here. While I love the size, design and built-in BT and WiFi (which makes the ommission of a CF slot easier to stomach), the lack of OS6 and portrait-mode orientation bug me. I am currently using an NR70V, which was pre-ordered the day they were announced, so I'm definitely due for an upgrade, but I'll tell ya, right now, that Tungsten T3 is looking awfully nice -- hi-res+, landscape and portrait orientation, compatible with a Stowaway XT (most likely), BT-enabled (hopefully we'll see SanDisk's rumoured Wi-Fi SD card soon...), and it will definitely cost less than $700. Money's not the biggest issue for me, but if the T3 comes in at $500...

-Adam

[babsk]

No, because I have a Tungsten C and NX70. NX70 does a great job with wifi card. I have two already toppest of the line PDA's.
UX series is interesting, but I wouldn't buy it over an NX series.

[NJL!2016]

Originally posted by greg elmassian
No, too slow, too big, landscape mode not utilized in most apps, and no CF slot..

i could care less about a CF slot. its basically crippled and only good for one thing-the Wireless lan cards

[NJL!2016]

Originally posted by greg elmassian
No, too slow, too big, landscape mode not utilized in most apps, and no CF slot..

i could care less about a CF slot. its basically crippled and only good for one thing-the Wireless lan cards

[Trident/Delta]

I think that it is really interesting that Sony would suddenly release a cool new unit just about the time that the NX70 is mainstreaming. When users like Pelaca have hacked the CF drivers (which, by the way works like a charm) and now I can REALLY use the machine... out comes this "pager on steroids" that, "ta-da" can ONLY support memory sticks. Can you say "captive technology"?? Nice try....


As for me, Maybe when my NX70V craps out, but, I had a Motorola pager that used the same form factor and it REALLY isn't as cool as it seems.

But, cest 'la vie.....

[jiserrab]

Not this one. I am one of those "320x480-665-form" PDA hold outs..and that new T3 is looking awfully nice. I really don't need all the "other" stuff(BT, WiFi, Camera, Keyboard) they would be nice but I would rarely use them. ;)

[JackAxe]

I'll wait for OS6 since OS5 limits what can be done with the hardware and software. I would like to own a Clie' that can run Flash 6.

It's definitely first Clie's since the NR and TG50 that is truly new for SONY. The NX/NZ with their mediocre memory capacity and second rate CPUs were just another NR with better specs.

Thank you SONY for removing the XSLUG from your new product line.

The screen being slightly smaller doesn't bother me since it's orientation is much better for most PALM applications. 480 wide will be a nice change.

When it comes down it, when an OS6 UX is released, I would buy it over an OS6 NR style. I just wish they would include a music remote.

<]=)

[donaldekelly]

I have the NX70v. It seems like spending $700 for a slightly smaller pda with a smaller screen and with blue tooth. I already have a wifi card, I can buy a bluetooth card for about $100 - so what is to gain? For $700????

[JackAxe]

Originally posted by donaldekelly
I have the NX70v. It seems like spending $700 for a slightly smaller pda with a smaller screen and with blue tooth. I already have a wifi card, I can buy a bluetooth card for about $100 - so what is to gain? For $700????

A more capable multimedia device.

<]=)

[donaldekelly]

Maybe I missed something.

What does the UX series offer that the NX series doesn't already have - more or less (with a card or two sticking out).

[n2ifp]

I find the form factor more suitable to my needs. No one is being forced to buy one, are they? It appears to be only an addition to the current model line that some might feel attracted too. I agree it's not for everyone, but for me it maybe ideal for how I use mine. Not everyone likes using the same shaver either. We are individuals with different needs and tastes. As one grows older things change too, but that's life :). Then again I am an old fart and I admit it, but so what... :D

[JackAxe]

Originally posted by donaldekelly
Maybe I missed something.

What does the UX series offer that the NX series doesn't already have - more or less (with a card or two sticking out).

The UX has a fast CPU coupled with a DSP chip, OpenGL support and a USB port. IMHO, the UX screen orientation will be nicer for typing notes.

<]=)

[n2ifp]

Either you like or you don't, no big deal. I haven't had this much fun since the NZ90 came out ;)!

[JackAxe]

Usually a new PDA is good when it stirs up this much discussion.

After this it's back to Off Topics until something new and exciting is released again. :)

<]=)

[chankla]

It is great to see all of the diversity of opinions regarding one's preferred Palm OS implementation. So, here is what I am thinking...

I have an NR70V and over the last year have rarely used the camera (resolution is just too low) and even less frequently used the keyboard.
I really like the larger display, but would like it in the smallest envelope possible. I want bluetooth so I can get to the internet via my phone. Why, well I travel a lot and WiFi is not that popular in the UK yet; however you can always get on-line via your mobile phone for a quick email session.
This means I am giving serious thought to the rumored Tungsten T3.

[Joel]

Originally posted by JackAxe
Usually a new PDA is good when it stirs up this much discussion.

After this it's back to Off Topics until something new and exciting is released again. :)

<]=)

Right you are! :D

[Unregistered]

Hello,
I had a palm IIIX that I used to keep contracts and letters with doctogo. Then i had a Jornada 548, screen was terrible when outside, pictures were awfull and proc was anemic. I have clié sj 22 with nice and crisp screen and it's very fast to open big docs like books, PDF, Word and excell files. I can get emails by irda and GSM.

I wish a palm could get my Word letters and contracts fullscreen and edit it with headers and footers and GSM fax and mail it ;)

So if this UX can do that I don't need anymore to carry a laptop. Specialy if it comes with national keyboard. The apn is good enough to do some live shooting on the go and send pics with BT GPRS phone.

If UX can do all that then i sell my laptop and can buy the Sony thing.

About speed proc, my 33 Mhz SJ 22 is much faster and more responsive than former hitachi 133 Mhz Jornada and i see on forums that pocket pc users complain about speed : 400 Mhz PXA aren't twice as fast as former 200 Mhz PPC but OS and files get heavier. Proc speed doesn't matter to my sense, editing header and footer does :)

[LaserProUSA]

Hell yes. I just picked up a iPAQ h5555 Pocket PC 2003 for it's integrated WLAN and BT of which I use both extensively. This will give me a reason to upgrade my NZ90. I use my PDA's primarily for business so the frills of the multimedia don't interest me much. I simply want speed, great screen, plenty of RAM/ROM and built in Bluetooth & WLAN.

Besides this offers better battery life and since I don't use my camera much due to the poor battery issue this new UX looks to resolve all the issue that my NZ has.

[cyclops]

it looks amazing and the specs are great.
the only thing that bothers me is the price, so ill wait for the price to drop and ill order it.
its the best looking clie i have ever seen:cool:

[Raptor]

Will I buy? Yes.

Why?

I've still got my trusted NR-70v (signed by Leo LaPorte and Megan Marrone from TechTV! WooHOO!), but it's starting to get long in the tooth. I feel left behind by all these OS 5 devices.

One of the primary uses of my NR-70v is writing. I'm a writer and a game designer, and the built-in keyboard on this thing looks to be infinitely more useable than the NR's.

One of my secondary uses for my PDA is web-surfing and information gathering on the road. I've got a Bluetooth phone already (which I also need to upgrade, methinks) and the BT Memstick. However, having to lose all my Memstick apps in order to use the BT stick gets rather annoying. That, and I also worry about losing the thing due to its small size (The BT MS, that is).

The tertiary thing that I do with my PDA is entertainment. I watch movies and listen to music. Granted, I don't do this anywhere NEAR as often as the two above, but I still do it. The flash player and the promise of 30fps MPEG is quite tantalizing.

Now, one of the things that I'd LIKE to do with my PDA is draw. Unfortunately, no PDA is quite up to my personal preferences just yet, so I've basically given up that hope (I'll use my laptop and Wacom tablet w/pressure sensitivity for that).

I figure since I've held on to my NR-70v this long, I've earned the right to upgrade. A year and a half is quite long for me to hold onto a piece of technology (yes, I'm a "gadget fiend").

[sebring]

Looks interesting, but too much new stuff, including an untested processor. I'll wait to see how it works out first. May just wait for the followup version (hopefully with all the bugs squashed).

[yawn]

All the lively discussion is appreciated.

[riversen]

I will have to wait a bit. In another group, it was noted that the physical screen size will be 30% smaller. Yes, it will have the resolution of the NX80V, but it will be significantly harder to read.

I am thoroughly concerned about this.

[IndyMCSE]

No!

[riversen]

No, what? You disagree about size or you are concerned, too? It is what it is...

[JackAxe]

Originally posted by riversen
I will have to wait a bit. In another group, it was noted that the physical screen size will be 30% smaller. Yes, it will have the resolution of the NX80V, but it will be significantly harder to read.

I am thoroughly concerned about this.


And you know this for a fact since you own one? :rolleyes:

The NX80 is about %40 bigger, so it will be harder to carry. :o

<]=)

[Orincarnia]

Originally posted by Raptor
Will I buy? Yes.

Why?

I've still got my trusted NR-70v (signed by Leo LaPorte and Megan Marrone from TechTV! WooHOO!), but it's starting to get long in the tooth. I feel left behind by all these OS 5 devices.

DUDE!!!!!!!! you got it signed by them?!!!!! how'd you get that? leo and megan are my fav 2 people!!!!! (well next to martin sargeant) dang...i'd give anything to get my clie signed by them!

definitly keep the nr70v its a collectible!!!

[Raptor]

Originally posted by Orincarnia


DUDE!!!!!!!! you got it signed by them?!!!!! how'd you get that? leo and megan are my fav 2 people!!!!! (well next to martin sargeant) dang...i'd give anything to get my clie signed by them!

definitly keep the nr70v its a collectible!!!

Yeah, I'm most definitely keeping this NR because it's signed. I'm just gonna stop using it here in a few months (It's showing its age) and preferably put it away somewhere safe.

They visited a local mall here last November (Louisville, Ky), and I attended. Got Leo's book (signed), a photo (also signed), and I had to be a real geek and get my PDA signed as well, heheh.

At LEAST one attendee there had Leo record his outgoing message for his answering machine. I found that rather amusing.

Truthfully, if they ever come back here I'll have them sign my laptop AND whatever PDA I have with me (hopefully a UX model, heh).

[sigelang]

BUT I am waiting for an SJ/TG EQUIVALENT.

with!

Hi res+
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[sz1999]

No, i won't buy this one. This one is too big for pant pocket.

Small Size/HiRe rules

[zzd]

The keyboard doesn't interest me. I already have 320x480, VG, bluetooth and wi-fi.


Like many, I suspect, I won't be buying a new Clie until there's a TG form-factor no-keyboard good-battery-life no-camera OS5.2+ model.

[Enceladus]

Originally posted by sz1999
No, i won't buy this one. This one is too big for pant pocket.

The smallest Clie yet, the UX is too big for your pants pocket?:rolleyes:

[JackAxe]

Originally posted by sz1999
No, i won't buy this one. This one is too big for pant pocket.

Small Size/HiRe rules

I found the perfect PDA for you.

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[JackAxe]

Originally posted by zzd
The keyboard doesn't interest me. I already have 320x480, VG, bluetooth and wi-fi.


Like many, I suspect, I won't be buying a new Clie until there's a TG form-factor no-keyboard good-battery-life no-camera OS5.2+ model.

I don't think that PDA would be a TG form factor without the keyboard.

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[JackAxe]

Originally posted by sigelang
BUT I am waiting for an SJ/TG EQUIVALENT.

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Until September. :) Then something better will be available............ The UX.

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[n2ifp]

LOL, who said the UX wasn't entertainment device :D??

I never had so much fun with a new Clie that hasn't the store shelves yet! Go Sony Go!

[Jeffry]

Ok I admit, I do love the UX but unlike most people, my money does NOT grow on trees.

[Orincarnia]

same here, i have so much stuff to buy with so little to buy it with, i hate that, but my parents say "budgeting will get you through life" i say "i'll budget later"

if i could get the UX i'd keep my NX and use them simultaneously for whichever one i needed when i needed it

[PDA Expert]

My goal for now is to own the 500 or at least the 400.

[jaimejr66]

For $699 I give it an unfortunate no for the following reasons.
1) Must at least, match the specs of Tungsten C
Memory 64MB (51MB actual storage capacity)
Operating System&nbsp; Palm OS® 5.2.1
Processor&nbsp;&nbsp;400MHz Intel® PXA255 Processor with Intel® XScale Technology

2) Give us at least the Camera found on the NX-80: 1.3 MP

3) Hi-Res+ Screen with Landscape AND Portrait Modes

4) With less than 4 or 5 months to go.&nbsp; It's probably worth the wait to see what type of devices show up with OS 6.
<P dir=ltr>The UX-50 is definitely innovative.&nbsp; But not enough for me to give up my nx-70v and cough up $699.
<P dir=ltr>I'm waiting.
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[Orincarnia]

the UX 50 will be sony's last device with Palm OS 5

it says it in the specs, and i like sony cause it makes things different, everyone thinks my nx 70 is some kind of revolutionary camera by sony, but they'll never find it in the cybershot section....i hope sony restores the original nx size screen on the UX, and then makes it thinner, and then turns it all silver (i hate the black border on the screen (whats the technical name for it again?)

[Rokiteer]

Personally, I'm on the fence. The UX50 has definitely got the gee-whiz factor going for it. And after buying my wife a Palm Zire 71, I can appreciate the MP3 and mini pic features. But this model is really all about ultra-mobile communications via wireless. Is that something I can really get benefit from yet, or not? I will wait on my decision until after I get my wireless-capable laptop in a couple of months, and after I read about how well the UX series holds up under heavy use.

[Sam K]

Originally posted by Orincarnia
i hate the black border on the screen (whats the technical name for it again?)

I think you mean the bezel.

By the way someone mentioned that they are concerned with the screen size. I am too. There is a lot of wasted space around the current screen that could have been used to make the screen larger.

Also the funny thing about the built in camera in the UX is that it has the same resolution as the camera attachment for my Nextel i95 (which is the same camera as the one for the T-Mobile Motorola T720i and T722i).

[JackAxe]

There's probably a reason for the smaller screen.

The UX is physically smaller then other Clie's with similar specs.

Look at the image below, SONY used the extra space around the bezel for internal wiring and other tech mumbo jumbo. ( Do people honestly believe that this extra space is empty. )

Maybe the smaller screen size equals less power consumption... And on that thought, the battery life on the UX PDA is by far better then all other PDAs currently on the market.

These are quotes from this article: (No where did the wrter mention that screen looked too small.)
http://www.pdabuyersguide.com/feature/sony_UX50.htm

"The display is quite nice, about on par with the NX70V and SJ33."

"documents look lovely on screen with formatting preserved, and it can read native Word and Excel docs, with no conversion (or formatting) loss."

"While you'll still have to do some scrolling since most web pages are designed for a minimum 800 x 600 display, it is more pleasant to browse in landscape mode."

"the high res plus landscape display is perfect for web browsing"


http://www.dreadscott.com/UX/clear2.jpg

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[Medcat99]

I really love this machine, but I voted no. I love it the way I loved my NR70v when I first picked it up at BestBuy and couldn't put it down. It was such a leap from other PDA's on the market at the time. Plus, it had so much more than my m505. I could get everything my 505 had and a whole lot of extras too.

Right now, I love the design of this machine. It is so close to what my design of the perfect PDA would be. I love the built in wireless. The problem is, 16mb is not enough for me, bottom line. I can live with the processor and the camera could be better, but it's ok. You put 64megs in this thing and I will pay for it. Right now, I would be getting a cool-looking machine with no real advantage over my NR. In fact, I'd probably loose memory because I can't use Flash memory on it. Then, of course, I'd need to buy new accesories and a larger memory stick. When you add it all up, it's not worth it........right on with the design, but the guts aren't up to speed yet.

[EPSOLON]

simply NO.
1. dont like design
2. wont accept less than a 1.3 mp camera
3. too expensive

[rolando]

I voted "no."

If it could run in portrait mode, I'd certainly be interested. I'm more likely to pickup the NX80 and a WiFi card.

Rolando

[IB Michael]

I'll end up getting one but I believe I'll wait for OS 6 to hit us between the eyes first. If that operating system was out now, I'd buy the UX 50 for the simple reason that I hate the WiFi card sticking out'a the top of my NX 70V, but that's jsut me.

[noktoto]

no
I wont pda, not mini notebook

[hausman]

Just to counter this page... :) Yes! I want a mini notebook, not a PDA (seriously). Been waiting for this for a *very* long time, want to show Sony how much I appreciate them bringing this device to the states. And esp. with bluetooth! This is a trend I like. Recognizing that according to this poll, only about 30% of readers here feel that way - that's probably not unexpected. Just hope that's enough user base for Sony to keep this design as an option along with their other items that people love so much.

Sure, there are some things I don't love about the UX, but I'll wait my whole life for the "perfect" PDA and die before it's released. This one looks good enough to hold me over for awhile - least I hope so. My first Clie (and first Palm since Palm Pilot - the big square plastic one with the green button - LOL)...I'm crossing my fingers that the software won't wildly disappoint. Web and email are paramount to me, along with being able to thumb-type quickly, with two hands, and use bluetooth and Wifi without carrying any cards around - dream come true! We'll now turn the next N posts over to your regularly scheduled UX-bashing. :)

[GeekGod]

Originally posted by MythoFactory
NO, nope, non, nada, ie. awful design, tiny screen, software isn't updated, and it bet that Palm, Inc. will release the device I've always dreamed of. What he said. :)

[ecouturi]

no I won't buy it I'll wait for one with more memory, 128 mb at least

[midtoad]

So, Sony wants to recover its development costs from the first, what, 1000 buyers of this unit? The CLUX would be be a good buy at $500. At the current price, it's very expensive. Especially with the disadvantage of the smaller screen and no portrait mode. And no slots in which you can use 3rd-party accessories.

Sharp has shown with its C-760 series that an acceptable product can be built with this form factor. It has 640x480, larger screen, more memory (IIRC), two slots (CF, SD) that allow all manner of accessories from GPS to WiFi. Too bad Sharp seems intent on failing to sell or promote this unit, and so lose its competitive edge.

I'll wait for Palm to come out with something in the same form factor.

cheers
Stewart in Calgary

[T1000X]

Maybe, I'll have to wait and see if there is more information for the devices. I love my TG50, and have grown to love thumboards but I plan on waiting to see what people think of the thumboard before I upgrade. Honestly, like a few here, I would like a laptop replacement and I think the UX series fits that for now. I do think that someone will come out with a program that will rotate the screen and give us a portrait mode. Someone did have a sreen rotate program for OS4, but now I can see it being useful for OS5.2 on the UX models.

Oh, and the UX models will suck straight out for arcade gaming. They lack the necessary four buttons and the up/down scroll bar.

[papogator11]

Waiting for OS6, plus more memory... and how come there is not specifics on the processor? Is it the same on the NZ?

My NZ rocks right now... until that better one comes out.. and with sony, its just a matter of time.

Is it just me or is there a new clie every 2 months?

[dante21]

Over 50% for no....hmm. I am suprised!

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by dante21
Over 50% for no....hmm. I am suprised!

I'm not. I Expected over 70% 'nay'.

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by dante21
Over 50% for no....hmm. I am suprised!

I'm not. I Expected over 70% 'nay'. As it is, there's a lot of Sony Fans here (logical). In the 'normal' Palm world, the UXs raises more ? than $, I think.

[rened]

LOL How many times did you say 'no' now?
That's a way to count up to 70% :rolleyes:

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by rened
LOL How many times did you say 'no' now?
That's a way to count up to 70% :rolleyes:

good idea! :D but I'm not THAT mean.
I can't explain it, it's physical, I HATE THE UX CLIEs *pant, pant*
I have to see my physician... soon.

[TheZodiac]

What pisses me off is the NR, NX yada yada dosnt have Landscape mode - if they did&nbsp;- there wouldnt be a reason for introducing one that did.

Reason #1 I just sold my NX70V.

[hausman]

Wouldn't it be hard to use the keyboard on the NX, NR series in landscape mode, if that was an option?

[kjbad]

Cnet.com replaced the picture of the UX50 with an image of the T2 on their handheld page already...looks like Sony bought off the wrong CNet editor!

For my needs, this device has to have the same e-mail functionality as my laptop. If it can provide me with reliable e-mail capability, I might as well turn in my Talkabout pager and my clunky camera and get a UX.

Just wait until Sony is *smart* enough to make a portable DVD-player size all-in-1 unit that can take digital pics, use CD-R discs or Mem Sticks, play DVDs, MP3s, AND function as a PDA. Now THAT will be my mini-laptop!

[jaimejr66]

After reading thru all these gazillion of posts. The conclusions are pretty much in.

UX not to mention the nx-73 and NX-80 are busts for Sony. Based on posts that I have been seeing, the upgrade percentage on all these models are extremely low.

UX-50 is just to expensive for a first-timer as well.

[jaimejr66]

Considering the first OS-6 models will be in stock before Christmas time. I would definitely wait to see what Sony has to offer.

The Benefits coming from OS 6 alone will make the Upgrade worth it.

Sony needs to break the 16 M barrier and start offering more Usable RAM. The rumored Palm T-C replacement with OS 6 will start looking Darn good, if Sony doesn't come thru with some Major Ram improvements.

Hopefully that UX-60 that someone keeps posting about will finally whet my appetite for a new Sony.

[jimod]

I already got my kid a Gameboy SP, no need for one with a calender

[T1000X]

I really like the design of the UX series, but the ideal UX model is one that Sony isn't coming out with. I would've rather had a model with Bluetooth and WiFi with no camera, then one with a camera and no WiFi.

A few other things that bug me about the UX is it doesn't have the Clie Remote Media Commander application and capability, doesn't have the standard T series connector (there goes a few accesories I use with my TG50), and it only has three application buttons! What was Sony thinking there? Well, I know what I want in my next PDA and the UX series apparently does not fit that bill. I really want a TG sized device with 320*480 screen and 64MB of RAM.

[Raptor]

Originally posted by jaimejr66
Considering the first OS-6 models will be in stock before Christmas time. I would definitely wait to see what Sony has to offer.Just curious, but have there been confirmed reports from companies stating that they will have OS6 models available by Christmas?

Last time I heard OS 6 wasn't supposed to be released until late 2003. June was the release of OS 5 and it took to October before anything started showing up. It's almost August now, which would put an OS 6 device out in December if we follow a similar pattern.

Sony needs to break the 16 M barrier and start offering more Usable RAM. The rumored Palm T-C replacement with OS 6 will start looking Darn good, if Sony doesn't come thru with some Major Ram improvements.Ed from Brighthand has seemed to have received confirmation that the 29MB in the UX-50 IS usable as a "virtual memory stick", making the UX-50's usable RAM 45MB or so. That, plus you get an automatic 16 for the backup of the device, AND most of your big apps sit in Flash. To me, this means that Sony has learned something about RAM improvements.

[GadgetMike]

45 MB usable is enough for me. I'll definitely be buying one of these. I never bought a WiFi card, so the UX is perfect for me.

[click]

I am undecided but for mixed reasons.

I thought I was going to have to turn to the "dark side" (and still may) and get an IPAQ 5550 so I can use the wireless network at my office for email and the such. Also my work supports the "Windows Mobile 2003" initiative, as they like to call it.

And I have gone so far as to convince my wife to let me spend the money for an IPAQ.

And although my 615C is still rockin and rollin along doing what I need on a daily basis (I can at least sync my mail and calendar) I think the UX is to cool. But I'm apprehensive about first releases.

HELP ME...... I'm being torn.......HP? Sony? no wait Toshiba?

AXIM? get real.

[rened]

Originally posted by T1000X
Well, I know what I want in my next PDA and the UX series apparently does not fit that bill. I really want a TG sized device with 320*480 screen and 64MB of RAM.

:rolleyes: The UX is about the size of a T-series. It has 480x320 and it has 64Mb (16 RAM, 16 Heap, 32-3 RamDisk).
So, what are you waiting for then ?????
In fact the UX is a Tungsten C with Hires+ screen, you got BT and a nice keyboard extra (and you pay soem more :-| )

[riversen]

Originally posted by rened


:rolleyes: The UX is about the size of a T-series. It has 480x320 and it has 64Mb (16 RAM, 16 Heap, 32-3 RamDisk).
So, what are you waiting for then ?????
In fact the UX is a Tungsten C with Hires+ screen, you got BT and a nice keyboard extra (and you pay soem more :-| )

I am waiting for the TT3 or the T665 version of the UX. I want compact with power. It is possible, I will not settle for anything else, and I will not upgrade my T665 till then. The UX does not have true RAM for me to use and run applications on. This is unacceptable, unless I hear that some significant amount of the memory is accessible ROM (like I do with with my JackFlash application now).

I just am not happy with this and the smaller screen physical size. I need glasses now and don't want to up my prescription just so I can see this screen. The Japanese make all things smaller (keyboard, etc.). I was so excited about the keyboard on this one, but was so frustrated to hear about the screen. I don't are if it is crisper. I have a Dell laptop that came with the higher resolution screen, but makes my letters so small because I cannot resize my screen easily. Crisper is not always good when you don't up the size of the monitor... or PDA screen.

Just my 2 cents,
Robert

[pedsmd]

I will probably wait. The nr70v was my first PDA purchase and I had to send it back for the memory stick problem. I would rather wait to make sure all the bugs are worked out, the price drops and I am curious about the software compatability issues.

[kusumo]

Just bought TG50 for about 3 months and still LOVE it... a lot!
So far I don't see the real benefit of this UX compared to my TG. Besides, it's damn too pricey for a PDA.

Although having built-in WiFi is nice...but I'm currently quite satisfied with BT.

So, no, no reason to upgrade for the time being.
But if the price is about $400, I'll definitely get it! :D

[markpmc]

I voted "don't know".

I've stopped myself a few times from grabbing a TG-50. I do want a Clie w/ thumboard. But OS6 devices are less than 9 months away. If OS6 is a disappointment I'll just grab a TG or UX OS5 model on clearance.

I do think there is still much confusion about the new memory layout in the UX series. I'll be glad once Brighthand Ed can explain it to me after playing w/ a UX for real.

markpmc

Basically unhappy in PPC land.

[Dang Dog]

Originally posted by T1000X

... A few other things that bug me about the UX is it doesn't have the Clie Remote Media Commander application and capability, doesn't have the standard T series connector (there goes a few accesories I use with my TG50), and it only has three application buttons! ...


I was sitting on the fence until I saw these points. Now I'm on the no side ( or wait and see ).

I have adjusted to a TG-50, although I can't say I like it, and I'm looking for a small form-factored replacement; the UXs seem like a good prospect, as do the T2 and the T3. I hate not having a dedicated or virtual graffiti area, and the keyboard on the TG isn't very good. I like the Bluetooth, could use Wi-Fi, and don't care about a CF slot.

For me, pocketability is a big consideration. The fact that the NRs and NXs are so big has kept me from adopting one of those. While the UXs are a bit thicker, they'd fit in any pocket and I'd keep it with me all the time.

I know this might seem silly, but I use the remote feature a lot. I'd really miss it and that's part of why I haven't moved to a Tungsten ( I know that there are 3rd party RC apps; the range on the T's sucks ). I guess I'll wait until there's a small Clie with a good RMC.

[dante21]

hmm...

[riversen]

As I said in another forum... what if Palm came out with a M525 or M535 that had the 400 Mhz processor (or 533 Mhz), 320X480 High resolution screen, extended battery, and 64 to 128 Meg's of RAM, I would be the first in line to buy it. Let's all start a rumor that may spur Sony to come up with the true T665 replacement... LOL :-)

[MythoFactory]

I am very interested by the Palm T3, but the Design... is not what I would call 'modern' I hope Palm will improve their Industrial design department...

[Enceladus]

Sony has great stylish designs with the Clies IMO. Newer Palms look kinda flimsy I think. The last Palm design liked was the M5XX series.

[Gadgeteer_7]

I am also waiting to see what Palm does next. I hope this T3 is real and will come quickly.

[BL4KKAT]

Originally posted by terrycg
Just voted no. Pretty much the same reasons:

1. Too much money
2. OS6 to come
3. Really love the screen size as well as resolution on the NX series.
4. I read a lot with it in my hand and use it standing up if I'm outside WiFi spots and in a hurry so narrower is probably better.
5. I like my CF slot.


i voted no for the same reasons as TERRYCG ;)

[jaimejr66]

Until the UX is in the hands of the public. No one will really know how it performs in the Real World.

Personnally I'm going to wait until the first batch of OS6 Clies hit the market, before dipping into my wallet for an NX-70 replacement.

[sonicboy]

yep.
I live in tokyo (and speak enough japanese to brave a JP OS) so I will be getting my pre-ordered UX50 in a few weeks..

this will also be my first palm, I wanted a NX60 but they have sold out and I am not one to buy things on ebay.. looking foward to using it with my yahoo broadband.. 802.11 in my palm sounds so good...

[Omnitron]

I'm looking into a new unit -- having endured a HS Prism for a couple years now. I expect to be able to get a new unit by some time in September. I've been looking at the NX80, but may change my mind if/when I see these in the store. It'll be a trade off - Give up the CF slot, larger screen, better camera for one that has has the newer processor and built-in wi-fi. I've got to hear MORE on how that memory works -- I've worked with under 8 mb Ram for far too long. If the large UX memory has too many qualifications -- I may pass.

This would be my THIRD Palm, whatever I chose. The one thing I'm positive of so far --- odds are it will be a Sony. The closest contender is the PALM Tungsten C, and it wins no awards in the look and feel category that either of the above Clies do --- at least in my book

[sonicboy]

palm design = palm

clie design = ghost in the shell

[dante21]

If you had the money though would you get it. I think I would if had 700 bucks to blow. I really like the fact that you have both bluetooth and WIFI without the MS.

[Unregistered]

don't you just love all these point blank STUPID questions

[sonicboy]

is as does mate ;)

[Orincarnia]

everyone loves a good stupid question in the morning, like this one "why aren't you registered?" hehe just messin with ya

[Unregistered]

i didn't write that earlier comment, and yours is well accepted. i would say though, there are quite a few threads asking would you or would not not buy a certain pda. but by the way, if the earlier comment is just as silly as the original thread comment, does it matter if it is registered? (remember those wonderful and colorful threads by the registered "nzuser" hey hey)

[haohmaru]

I would buy it, because I have a buyer lined up for my NX-70V. I don't mind not having a CF slot because Bluetooth & Wifi are built in. Would rather have a high speed ms than a work in progress CF/drivers.

[Orincarnia]

hey unregistereed is cool, but if you're seeing this um...i dont know what to call you.....you know whats been happening in this forum, why not register and become part of the club? i'm just curious if theres a direct reason anyone doesn't register.

and i actually agree with you hao and i'm wondering loading the pics. would it be faster from the ms or HD on the clie?

[flashgordonv]

I'd buy this, maybe after it has been out for a while.&nbsp; I left the Clie camp (NR70 then a T665) for PPC about 6 months ago and bought an iPAQ 5450 because it had bluetooth and wifi onboard, 64 Mb of RAM and a removable battery - all things I really like.&nbsp; However it has been a bleeding nightmare.&nbsp; The iPAQ was as buggy as hell, there were huge issues with the wireless dlls in the OS which didn't seem able to cope with them.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The 5450&nbsp;has stabilised now after 2 major ROM upgrades and a wireless firmware upgrade.&nbsp; One of the reasons for the 2003 version of Pocket PC is supposedly to cope better with multiple wireless functionality in the one organiser.&nbsp;

The apparent downsides of the UX for me are the unproven nature of Bluetooth and wireless onboard a Clie, the small file space and no removeable battery.&nbsp;I'd really like somebody else to debug the thing first.&nbsp; &nbsp;However it is intriguing.&nbsp; In the meantime, I am flicking the 5450 and buying an IPAQ&nbsp;2210 which has removable battery, SD and CF slot and bluetooth.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by MythoFactory


I agree qith you I AM NOT a sony fan at ALL. I buy a device if it is the closest to what I want to do with it. I don't care about its brand. And the only thing that made me buy CLIEs was the HiRes + screen. Sony policy of non-disclosure SUCKS. Sony exclusion of Apple computers SUCKS.
If Palm releases the T3 as it is rumored, then I'll go to Palm without hesitation.

I think you just contradicted yourself man! You state that your only concern is that the PDA does what you want it to do, and do not care with the brand. And then you're disgusted with the non-disclosure and exclusionary stuff. What do those things have to do with the functionality of the pda? And then you declare that you'll jump to palm anytime? Doesn't that sound like brand bigotry?

(sorry, just venting. Personally, I don't care if it's palm or sony, or palm os or ppc, as long as the pda does it's purpose for me!)

Chill(i)

[Omnitron]

For me the end decision will be whether or not I can get a full keyboard to work with this unit. EVENTUALLY I find myself on occasion using a PDA like a full laptop. Not all the time, but certain times it does come in useful - in meetings or classes, I've taken notes. Typing fast on a mini keyboard, even one as large as the UX series, will not allow for LONG messages.

Battery life, ARM processor and associated programming, video and built in WiFi may be attractive, but in the end NO attachable keyboard may be an unforgivable absence...

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by Unregistered


I think you just contradicted yourself man! You state that your only concern is that the PDA does what you want it to do, and do not care with the brand. And then you're disgusted with the non-disclosure and exclusionary stuff. What do those things have to do with the functionality of the pda? And then you declare that you'll jump to palm anytime? Doesn't that sound like brand bigotry?

(sorry, just venting. Personally, I don't care if it's palm or sony, or palm os or ppc, as long as the pda does it's purpose for me!)

Chill(i)

The non-disclosure prevents developers to take advantage of Clies functionalities, so in fine it prevents us to enjoy a lot of possibilities.
As for the Apple exclusion, I don't need to explain how much it hurts.

Me? Palm Bigotry? I never owned a Palm! My first PDA was the N700, then NR70, NX70, NX73. Palm is catching on, and the T3 is very tempting for someone like me who is waiting for a T-form Factor Hires+ device since the birth of the NRs.

Your 'venting' is brand bigotry, despite what you say at the end of your post, as was the 'sony fan' post from the other (self-censored).

(sorry, I'm just venting)

[sralmas]

Whether I purchase this is going to depend upon whether an external keyboard option becomes available. I would otherwise consider this my dream PDA, but the dim prospects for an external keyboard make this a dead deal for me.

[Orincarnia]

i need something that more or less blows my nx out of the water....

[nickster87]

This doesn't?

I think it would in terms of specs, but maybe not practically. It really depends on your needs.

[Orincarnia]

people would see me as holding a mini laptop and then say "why do you have 2......" cause if they can't tell the difference.....hmmmm, and the fact that i have to hold it horizontal 24/7 doesn't blow anything out of the water.....if anything the ux would fall in the water cause i can't always hold my clie with 2 hands

[mad212]

os6 is my next machine, i broke my nx70, and sold my nr70, all i ahve left is my m505, m100, and palm3 crap.. and i relized they are very limited and suck compared to my nx70.

so os6 will be the next jump i make! w00t

[Orincarnia]

if they madea palm m5*5 with VG then i would immediatly buy it, and if they made anythign like that that held memory sticks then i would pay 1000 bucks if i had too, it would be slim and full screen and sexy and mine!


* being whatever number

[Orincarnia]

don't get me wrong i'd still want the camera and all the functions of the nx70 that would be my other pda, so i'd have a slim line one and a functionality one. a sexy one and a wide load one, it would be cool though.

[AndyJapan]

Originally posted by mad212
os6 is my next machine, i broke my nx70, and sold my nr70, all i have left is my m505, m100, and palm3 crap.. and i realized they are very limited and suck compared to my nx70.

so os6 will be the next jump i make! w00t
Hold your breath and be patient... I guess that it takes quite some time until OS6 is available. Next year or so...
I also have some old rubbish (Palm m100) that I only use to switch my DVD player to region free. I would never want to switch back to a non-HiRes+ device. I may join you waiting for OS6 if the UX50 does not turn out to be a killer Clie...

[riversen]

Originally posted by AndyJapan

I also have some old rubbish (Palm m100) that I only use to switch my DVD player to region free.

How do you do that? Is this some hack or freeware??? It sounds cool.

[nauta]

Well, here I was all set to drop $1800 on an iBook with airport card, Applecare, and a 10 GB iPod, to tote around with me to college and to do word processing, surf the 'net and check email and listen to music between classes.

Now, I look at the UX-50. For $700 I can connect to the campus WiFi network, I can check my email, chat, surf the web, word process (I'm used to small keyboards, I had a K-PDA Zaurus for three years), listen to MP3s (the 10 GB iPod was overkill considering how many MP3s I have), and the extended warranty from Best Buy is only $70 as opposed to $200 from Apple for the iBook.

The desktop Mac I have works just fine; I don't *need* a whole new machine. I just need a portable unit that can do what the UX-50 can do. And if it weighs six ounces and fits in my pocket, all the better. I just need to find a home for my nearly-new (six month old) SJ-30, which has been a wonderful PDA in the time I've owned it.

Now, my only concern is syncing the UX-50 with OS 9 on my iMac.

[sonicboy]

like I said dude, install OS 10.2

install it now.

[nauta]

Like I said, dude, I can't run X, it's not an option.

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by nauta
Like I said, dude, I can't run X, it's not an option.
I think you are afraid of upgrading for some reason.. from what I know of your system and softare you DO have an option..

I have installed OS 10.2 on a friends REV. B and it runs fine!

[Unregistered]

take my advise, don't get into a long running argument with sonic boy

[jconaway99]

I really don't have a need for the built-in wireless and bluetooth at the moment, and the price tag is a little steep. My NX70V does everything I need. So that is a no for me.

[nauta]

Originally posted by sonicboy

I think you are afraid of upgrading for some reason..

Maybe it's because I don't upgrade unless I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. I'm still using a version of AIM from 1998 because it WORKS even if it doesn't have Direct Connect or Buddy Icons. The new version boldfaces my system fonts and doesn't support logging. But it's new, so I should run it, right? Christ.

OS 9 works just fine on my machine. I already spent $30 on MissingSync in February, so there's nothing gained by upgrading to X just so I can boot into Classic to run Photoshop and my other classic apps, defeating the purpose of upgrading. I won't waste time and money for something so menial.

[Unregistered]

like i said, don't get into a long running argument with sonic boy...now you're drawn in....

[randy_m]

Nah,

I'm tired of my clamshell NX60 - it's too frickin' BIG! Plus, I have an iPod now for music, so don't really need the multimedia stuff.

I'm going to look at a Tungsten C to see if its size fits my lifestyle better.

[nauta]

Originally posted by Unregistered
like i said, don't get into a long running argument with sonic boy...now you're drawn in....

Nah... I can decide not to reply to him. =P

I don't understand why people are so hung up on "OMG UPGRADE NOW!" I used a 60 Mhz PowerMac for 7 years, it faithfully served me and did everything I wanted. The only reason I even got a new machine was because I was moving out of the state.

New technology may have all the bells and whistles, but old technology is tried and true. If there was a way to upgrade my SJ-30 to WiFi, believe me, I'd do it instead of getting a new unit. =P

[ErnieB]

Nope.

Not nearly enough memory (my T|C has 64MB).&nbsp; No telling how the "landscape" screen will work with existing apps.&nbsp; Don't need a camera.&nbsp; Don't have a BT anything--don't need BT.

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by Unregistered
take my advise, don't get into a long running argument with sonic boy
see! even unregistered here advises installing 10.2 :D

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by nauta
Maybe it's because I don't upgrade unless I ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO. I'm still using a version of AIM from 1998 because it WORKS
if it aint broke dont fix it.. ok, well I upgrade because normaly when I do so my productivity is increased but hey, do whatever you want ;)
Originally posted by nauta
I already spent $30 on MissingSync in February, so there's nothing gained by upgrading to X just so I can boot into Classic to run Photoshop and my other classic apps, defeating the purpose of upgrading. I won't waste time and money for something so menial.
OK, sorry, I didn't know you actually PAID for your software.. in that case.. yeah.. stay with 9 dude ;)

[nauta]

Originally posted by sonicboy
OK, sorry, I didn't know you actually PAID for your software.. in that case.. yeah.. stay with 9 dude ;)

What, you think I'd steal it? o.o

[Unregistered]

actually, i wasn't agreeing. i was saying based on the other threads - don't get into a long drawn out argument with sonic boy, unless you enjoy this. see what happened now?

[nauta]

Yes, but at this rate, I'll be a full member in no time. =P

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by nauta
What, you think I'd steal it? o.o
errr, yes?

if people dont want to share infomation (http://www.opensource.org/) I think its best to make them.

[Unregistered]

unless i am reading this wrong, if you just accused him of stealing, or that you thought he/she was a thief, that crosses the line. i'm signing off this thread now.

[vcleniuk]

Not sure yet. I would buy it right away, but:

- I must hold it in my hands to make any type of judgement before buying.
- Been waiting for integrated WiFi and BT, but want to see if there will be a new NZ model.
- Palm OS 6 out soon, so I may wait. But with new OS's I like to wait and read reviews, wait for patches, etc. (I just recently moved to WinXP).

[nauta]

Originally posted by sonicboy

errr, yes?

if people dont want to share infomation (http://www.opensource.org/) I think its best to make them.

Then you go on and keep living in your perfect little world of open source where developers don't need compensation for the time they spend writing software. It's not like it's their job, or anything.

But then again, not everyone gets to enjoy an educator's discount from being in college. =P

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by Unregistered
unless i am reading this wrong, if you just accused him of stealing, or that you thought he/she was a thief, that crosses the line. i'm signing off this thread now.
your reading it wrong, Unregistered, I accused myself of stealing :D

And its true, I am a thief baby :D

I havn't paid for any software (not including shareware, I pay those guys..) since 1995.

(of course being freelance means I am outsourced from large companies who obviously own all the lawsuit-avoiding-legit-software that I use on any particular job so there you go, its not a perfect world yet.. but you knew that right?)

[Orincarnia]

man you people are crazy

THIS IS SOOO COOL!!!!!!

[nauta]

A portable machine is hardly useful when it's tied to an outlet every two hours.

[sonicboy]

but I would be using my UX for 1 hour going to work on the train, then I'd be charging it wit the usb cable..

then I'd be using it again on the way home.

then I'd be checking mail/ surfing on the balcony when I got home then it would be docked while I was sleeping.. but yes I think 2 hours is pathetic, and this is supposed to have that new battery saver CPU whats going on!

[nauta]

You can't charge it with the USB cable. It's only for sync. The only way to charge it is to haul along the cradle, in which case you might as well be carrying the extended battery.

[Unregistered]

didn't we tell you to not engage in this with sonic boy? now its the never ending (but certainly entertaining) thread

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by nauta
You can't charge it with the USB cable. It's only for sync. The only way to charge it is to haul along the cradle, in which case you might as well be carrying the extended battery.
really... that sucks if its true, I only heard about using a usb cable to charge from a friend so if your reading a manual then it must be true and it must suck...

having that huge a s s battery in my pocket is not appealing at all

[sonicboy]

judging from grammar and spite towards me, I think Unregistered is TP ;)

[nauta]

Unfortunately, that's what I've read both in the manual and on the forums.

I'm completely torn 50/50 between this and an iBook. I think the only way I'll be able to choose one over the other is when I read a definitive review of the UX-50 and hold one in my hands.

[sonicboy]

damn! yes I just read about it too.. I was kinda looking foward to having one cable for both, stick it in my bag.. I'd probably get a usb bluetooth adapter for sync just out of convinience now that I know I cant charge with the sync cable...

but yeah, the battery life thing pisses me off.. gotta find out more about that.. if it was a charge a day that would be fine but I cant tell how long it lasts till I take it with me and use it as I would use it..

[NX70BOY]

It's sweet, but I'm satisfied with my NX70V. Plus I don't like the horizontal view.

[chrisw]

No. According to SONY's rule, it will release a better configuration in a short period of time.
A OS 6.0 model with most the bug fixed will be my target. I have a N710 version of CLIE and very disappointed when SONY released N760. Actually , this is a kind of dream CLIE for me - with keyboard, 480 x 320 pixels screen, 802.11b. It looks like a mini-sub-notebook. This is what I looking for over years - I did think of buying a Windows CE of the same design - not palm liked CE.

[ShellyBelly]

Not unless EVERY other Palm OS device was erradicated and then I might consider going to PPC first! (sorry)

:)

[n2ifp]

I had PPC at one time, then I went to Palm, never looked back!

[Orincarnia]

why doesn't sony make both palm and ppc devices?

[n2ifp]

Because Microsoft and Sony are competitors, why would Sony step downwards anyway, both companies want control?

:D

[Orincarnia]

then why do sony computers use windows

[sonicboy]

maybe because palm OS has more programs for it and a wider user base/market share? just a guess..

[n2ifp]

Originally posted by Orincarnia
then why do sony computers use windows

Because Sony doesn't like Apple either. You notice how Sony or Microsoft do not support the MAC OS with their respective PDA's? Each corporation would like to be the major player. Additionally, Sony doesn't do software :eek:

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by n2ifp
Sony doesn't do software :eek:

This I can notice everytime I open one of the "exclusive" CLIE apps...
they are so badly designed that they should be listed as study cases in the PalmOS SDK!

[dante21]

Man this thread is getting a little thick with all the admission to stealing and stuf but I'm not here to judge. I went to bestbuy and they haven't dropped any of the prices on the clies yet. I think they are going to try the old "as soon as it comes out we will drop the prices" nice plan but I have sen it to much now that it isn't that exciting anymore.

[riversen]

Have you all noticed how Best Buy is dropping prices like crazy for the Palms now that the TT2 is out. I am hoping that his is some hint of other devices maybe soon to come from Palm.

[dante21]

Yeah I noticed that :) I was messing with the T2 in our local compusa I must say that it is pretty nice I always liked the form factor of the T models but now that I do most of my writing with the keyboard I don't think I can go without it. I want to see what palm might have to realease they have come up with some pretty nice models so far I wonder what else they can do.

[Omnitron]

My Best Buy's are weird - One hardly has anything left Sony wize while another does have everything but is so Bolted down that you really can't get a feel for what the device is... even had flipcovers REMOVED so they could get the device IN the bolt/frames... Why bother putting them out at ALL if you are going to do that???

I saw the T2 in a CompUSA and thought it a tad small for my tastes. The NX80 seems better, but I'm waiting for more details on the UX before I make my final decision.

[imadrin]

i will certainly buy the second generation of the UX units-- I am sure that sony will do the same with ux as it has with all others and release an improved one a few months later. I'll wait for the os6 version.

[darussell]

I currently own the NR-70, my second Palm-type device. However, my most-used and favorite PDA remains the HP200LX. I'm looking for an up-to-date, keyboard-friendly, backlit, color display type device. I've read the User Guides for the UX-50, posted with the FCC, and am not sure how legible the screen will be (tablet or keyboard). Torn between staying Palm (NX80,) now, or UX-50 (keyboard), later.

[Unregistered]

well..... point blank...i have no idea until i can hold in my hands and play with it.

[sonicboy]

is it front lit? that would be good if it was..

I saw the light was dimmer, I assume its front lit... the trains have fluros as do most places so I rarely need lighting for my GBA-SP, I assume all front lit devices are the same if not better.

[darussell]

TFT color display with backlight, 480 x 320 pixels, 65,536 colors.

[sonicboy]

wierd.. so I take it you cant see anything with the backlight off?

that is teh suck

[dante21]

Yeah I will have to wait until I can tough it but I am that way with almost everything I buy.

[sonicboy]

I prefer a GOOD front lit to a back lit because you can do without lighting in most situations

[riversen]

Originally posted by sonicboy
I prefer a GOOD front lit to a back lit because you can do without lighting in most situations

I cannot agree with you. You would have to have an extremely white background that allows me to to view the LCD display very clearly. I have found all of the older PDA's that were front lit, were not very easy to view. I really like the back-lit and would want something with some extra battery life to allow me to do so.

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by riversen
I really like the back-lit and would want something with some extra battery life to allow me to do so.
isn't battery life related to power usage and isn't a backlight going to be using more power than say, no backlight? correct me if I'm wrong, I dont know much about PDAs

[Orincarnia]

you know enough to have the common sense i'll tell you that........no offence riversen

[dante21]

Orincarnia, do you like your VAIO I want one but I just bought a new desktop and my wife won't let me get a notebook.

[sonicboy]

well get a divorce braniac! (like, duh) ;)

[dante21]

Maybe the second version of the UX with OS 6 will be my notebook replacement.

[Orincarnia]

it might be a replacement possibility, even though once you get a laptop no pda could replace it.

for me both my desktop and laptop are sony, and they communicate nicely, they have the exact same ports so i can play against my friends on thew computers when they come over, just use i.link, (for you specific people: yes i know its firewire and sony just calls it that...) you could do what i did to my mom, tell her she deserves her own computer and that shes pretty well established on that one, so she should take it and use it for her own purposes, then you replace it with one of your choice, either a desktop laptop or both. all my friends love my setup (and so do i) thats why i suggest always having laptopto back up a desktop in the war of downloading and storage. i got my life on my laptop (id numbers job stuff budget parents credit cards [hehe]) and my replaceable stuff on my desktop......i don't use my parents cc's without their permission so my options stay open to get more stuff.

[dante21]

That's cool the only thing keeping a PDA though from replacing a Laptop is some areas is the Storage space which a PDA just can't beat. I wanted a Sony desktop but I could not wait my little emachine was dieing on me. I got a P4 2.53Ghz HP. It should be here by the end of next week.

[Orincarnia]

ooooo, hp's are nice, and my aunt has had her emachine for about 3 years now, shes got everything she can possibly fit on it. hey you're in the air force? dude you ever been to san antonio? big AF place.

[dante21]

I was down there for basic training. That is a lovely place and I am trying to get back there! I like my e machine but it is to sluggish with editing videos and such (only a celeron 1Ghz). I also like playing games and let's face it 1 Ghz is not enough anymore. When I graduated from basic they let us go to downtown San Antonio and man I never saw a more beautiful place!

[newyorktd]

The only thing keeping me from replacing my lappy is industry-specific software that I am using now...

If Icould only write Palm software...

;)

[jaimejr66]

I've looked at so many comments in this forum. People can't seem to understand that a PDA (UX or otherwise) will never be a laptop replacement. A landscape screen and a larger keyboard does not a Laptop make.

The guys at Sony, like to try new things. The UX is a trailblazer to test the waters of Market acepptance for this type of product.

I like the Concept of the UX. It many innovations make it VERY tempting. But Sony missed the boat on one handed use.

I'd bet that near 99% of clie users hold their Clie in one hand while using Graffitti input. Using the Keyboard on the rare occasion where there is a convenient desk to lie it on.

The UX will have the same issue. Unfortunately I don't see a comfortable way to Grafitti while holding it in one hand.

Had a portrait mode been available so that I can use one handed Graffitti, might have been the last temptation to get my Pre-order.

For now I'll wait for the OS-6 models come Christmas time.

[darussell]

Interesting observation, but one-handed input is what I expect out of a keyboard-equipped device. The one thing that has kept my trusty HP200LX around for so long, after trying several Palm devices, has been the ability to open it, and do a look up of name/tel# all with one hand, while driving with the other. My CLIE NR-70V has somewhat addressed this, but number input. requiring two fingers (a they're small ones at that) still remains impossible unless you're seated at a desk.

My concerns with the UX-50 revolve around legibility and screen display format of applications that expect normal Palm-portrait layout. The package is attractive, but is it functionally useable?

[dante21]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jaimejr66
[B]I've looked at so many comments in this forum. People can't seem to understand that a PDA (UX or otherwise) will never be a laptop replacement. A landscape screen and a larger keyboard does not a Laptop make.

Yeah your right I didn't mean it like that what I want it to do is mock a laptop not really replace one. I want to be able to put data in it like a laptop. I want to be albe to look at video and surf the net like it were a laptop that is what I meant.

[kjbad]

Originally posted by jaimejr66
I've looked at so many comments in this forum. People can't seem to understand that a PDA (UX or otherwise) will never be a laptop replacement. A landscape screen and a larger keyboard does not a Laptop make.


This UX, if it comes as advertised, WILL make my laptop gather dust on my desk. If I can answer e-mail on the go, take pics and send them to my database wirelessly, and access my documents when I'm not at my desk, it WILL replace my laptop. I will not need a pager either if I can carry this device all the time! MP3s are nice, and instead of hooking up my laptop at dB drag races, I'll just build a platform in my dashboard and plug in the UX-50 (won't that be cool - no need for radio!). Okay, I'm dreaming now, but I see lots of possibility with this PDA...

[kjbad]

Originally posted by jaimejr66


I like the Concept of the UX. It many innovations make it VERY tempting. But Sony missed the boat on one handed use.

I'd bet that near 99% of clie users hold their Clie in one hand while using Graffitti input. Using the Keyboard on the rare occasion where there is a convenient desk to lie it on.

The UX will have the same issue. Unfortunately I don't see a comfortable way to Grafitti while holding it in one hand.



Here's where I strongly disagree. 2500+ people at my work site have Motorola Talkabout pagers with the small keyboard now, and they have no problem checking messages with one hand and typing replies with both hands. The UX-50 looks just like a Talkabout, except it has a bigger form and so much more usability!

Sony may have made the perfect corporate device for my company - wireless e-mail would easily replace corporate pagers when employees are on-site. Which would you rather use - text based pages or real-time wireless e-mail (with pics) to anyone with a connection? I can see the UX-50 being used instead of pagers when employees are on-site, and our employess already use small keyboards so there's nothing new to learn.

Simply put, we would jump all over these if the cost weren't so outrageous.

[Orincarnia]

woah its cool that i've been in this trhead since the beginning 2 pages and now we're on 6, i think if i'm not pulled to ppc and not to the tg i might get the ux, its all a process of elimination if yall saw shanghi knights......

[gbh]

the likelyhood me buying this as of today is small, simply because it is not available yet, and by the time it is available, there might be competition. for my buying decision, in other words, its what else will be available is my big question. maybe if the tt3 gets more meat and bones and is available around nov, or a nz replacement in nov, i'll head that way. i can afford to wait an extra two months for, what will be for me, a better pda.

[sonicboy]

the likelyhood of me buying this as of 2 days time is high, simply because that is when it will be avaliable.

if the tt3 gets more meat and bones? lol
I think that what is being manufactured is what is going to be released but then, that could just be me...

[riversen]

You know, CESD from the DateBK forum happen to mention OS6 in the TT3. I am wondering if he was referring to something that he writing code for and testing now or if he said this from speculation. He seems to know a lot about newer PDA's before they come, since his application is so widely used. I know that he is working on code for OS6 because his NDA stops him from answering any of my questions (he specifically said that he would NOT say anything because of the NDA and because he wants to have access to code before it comes out, so he can support it when it is officially released). I am waiting till October 1st now. A TT3 with 400 Mhz processor, 128 Meg's of RAM, Bluetooth, 320X480 resolution screen, and OS6 sounds really nice (especially since someone noted that Best Buy had 3 Palm PDA listed... one likely being the new TT3 or M525 or whatever they will call it).

[CFrizzle]

NO!, Absolutely Not! Not even at half the price! I've finished playing around w/ Sony and waiting only to see them get worse at PDA's rather than better. Totally wrong direction and getting ever so more off taget with each new device release. I need a PDA not a huge MP3 playing game boy that has no usuable memory!

Back to Palm and I won't stray again. Sony keeps this up Palm will get alot of us back along with many new users.

Happy T2 owner w/ 29mb ram, fits in my pocket, all it's features/and older Palm accessories already work w/ it, *and* it plays very well w/ others and everything right out of the box!

[*YellowRose*]

I want a T-3. If it comes out, I think I'm done with Mr. Sony and all his proprietary garbage.

:D

[MythoFactory]

Originally posted by *YellowRose*
I want a T-3. If it comes out, I think I'm done with Mr. Sony and all his proprietary garbage.

:D

amen.

[riversen]

I can't agree with you more. I am done with Sony if they don't have a TT3 simple response. I am going to enjoy my TT3 when it is available.

[bugbeak]

to buy or not to buy, the answer is quite obvious: NO.

true, i'm not a true sony fan if i say something against their products but i have an NX70 because of 1. the swivel screen that protects the LCD and 2. a compusa warranty policy that will only let me get a new PDA when my old one breaks down that costs the same price of my older model or more expensive (599.99) . but think about the following:

1. who needs bluetooth AND wifi at the same time? wifi is a hell lot more standardized and widespread than bluetooth and it's also got more range and more use. besides, for college students like me and probably a good number of users here, it's a lot more practical.

2. 700 bucks for a pda is too steep, especially if the additions are only a backlit keyboard and a sub-1 megapixel camera. maybe if the camera was 1 megapixel like the NX80V, then it would be a bit more appealing.

3. OS6 is months away. wait for that to be implemented, as well as whatever bugs are left.

4. there isn't any software that will support a landscape display. Heck, there aren't that many programs out there that will support the NX or NV or NZ's display for that matter!

so until 1. there's an option in which i can choose only wifi (there is only bluetooth) 2. the price drops considerably, let's say, to around 500-600, 3. OS6 and bugfixes are done and 4. there's a considerable 3rd party software market i'm not going to look at this model.

[silverbulletmr2]

amen to that

[sonicboy]

I think people should buy the best thing they can buy at the time they need to buy it. I am not new to propritary s h i t and agree the problem is large but you have to realise that while palm OS is closed source it in itself remains propriatry s h i t (I use a mac)

I am done with waiting for the latest and greatest model because there will ALWAYS be os6, t3, os7, UX80.. just around the corner. I get the feeling some people in here enjoy the waiting more than the using.

[lmame]

I will buy...
It's almost 7 months I haven't got any CLIE because there is always some announcments (hey wait, something better will come out...!!)...
I guess I'm a bit sick now, as for computers...
The days you buy a Radeon 9800 Pro you know a better card will be released in 3 months...

In my case the look suits me and it is really complete for me...
BT for my GSM, Wifi for work / home.
Small screen and size, SONY look :), completly diffenrent from what is released by Palm and different from previous CLIE...
Perfect for me...

But, of course, SONY is "again" playing the dum with "not optimized" programs... What would have take to SONY if they had modified a bit their programs in 480*320 look?
Even developers that have nor the simulator, nor the API calls manage to handle the new resolution (Zlauncher, Acid Image), so why not SONY?
What are they expecting? Some patchs for SONY applications as for the CF support on NX73V softwares?

Now some are speaking of the Palm OS6... Just look how much time it tooks for Palm and SONY to really handle Palm OS 5?
Do you really think they will release "killer handleds" from the beginning?
I prefer to buy "state of the art" of a generation rather a "brand new surely not optimized that will be replace two months later" of the new generation...

But again, everybody's choice :)

[lmame]

As for the softwares...

I bet that in two weeks after the offical release, most of the softwares will handle the new resolution...
It is already the case for Zlauncher and Acid Image... Others will follow...

I already made some "back screens tryes" for ZLauncher and I'm really waiting for the true PEG UX-50 :)

Look at:
http://www.palmspirit.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7292

[sonicboy]

looks so good! I took a few shots in the electronics store down the street today.. they are here http://jibjub.com/clie/

my hands are a bit big but the design is good!

[dante21]

Those were some great pics man!! If you can get anymore please put them up I'm sure a lot of people would like to see them.

[chaz03]

i would definately just wait until the nes OS6 PDAS come out rather than just blowing anohter 600 dollars or so like i did for my NX70/V afterall it has no updated software or anything just a smaller screen with a new design innovation thats the only thing i like about it is the design anyway but overall i dont think i would by it. BYy the way does anyone know what the first Sony Clie Os 6 model might look like just wondein

ye ye

[AndyJapan]

Nope! I don`t like the design (landscape format) and the screen is the biggest joke. Keyboard looks nice, but I am not a big user of the keyboard anyway. WiFi onboard is not convincing enough. Let`s see if the next release is more convincing for me. I am not hooked to SONY anyway, just to PalmOS as I have already invested quite some time & money in software.

[greg elmassian]

i agree.... i would buy one just for the heck of it, but screen is smaller than the nz, and the keyboard is not useful to me, i can grafitti faster, also it is slower running apps (except maybe movies)
if the screen was larger, faster cpu i would buy it, even with the lumpy battery pack...

greg

[Orincarnia]

well you must have money to burn then...........

[n2ifp]

Hey, we make our own Cuban cigars&nbsp;out of&nbsp;money!

So yes, I guess we have money to burn...

[sonicboy]

Originally posted by an NX owner the keyboard is not useful to me, i can grafitti faster
LOL :D
Originally posted by an NX owner if the screen was larger, faster cpu i would buy it
LOL :D
Originally posted by an NX owner Nope! I don`t like the design (landscape format) and the screen is the biggest joke. Keyboard looks nice, but I am not a big user of the keyboard anyway.
LOL :D
Originally posted by an NX owner i would definately just wait until the nes OS6 PDAS
LOL :D

hey, I said it wasn't for everyone, its not like you NX owners are being held at gunpoint and forced to upgrade, you dont have to pis s on the UX to justify your "old" machines.
new and better tech is released all the time. You cannot use these arguments anymore I have SEEN the UX and all these predictions are NO N ISSUES..

[AndyJapan]

Sonicboy,

I think we do not really want to justify our old machines. We also do not p!ss on the UX. I did not want to criticize UX owners (I know you will be one) with my postings. I just think -as you also stated above- that the UX is not for everyone. And it seems that many NX users are happy with the portrait mode and find the UX50 not worth to upgrade. It`s also a matter of personal perception. Some think the display is bad, others say it`s great. Let`s accept to have different views and be happy with our Clies.

[sonicboy]

yes, if I had an NX I wouldn't upgrade either, too soon and not enough reason

however I wouldn't come on to a UX forum preaching "WAIT FOR OS 6!", "SCREEN IS TINY", "LARGE KEYBOARD IS USELESS" etc that are based on photos alone.. the only reason for this, as I can deduce, is NX users wanting their attention back and their model to be the latest and greatest again.

your model IS still current.
people DO still buy it.
the ux IS much better.

:D