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Hi Everyone,
I try to convert a music video from .MOV file to the watch on my NX using the image converter. However, when the video is converted and transfered to the memory stick, I can watch it. It simply jumps immediately from start to finish with a blank screen.
Please can someone help ??
Thanks
:confused:
Picasosz
01-29-2003, 07:52 PM
The problem is they all do that try converting the file to an mpeg file then use image converter there seems to be a problem with QT
Tek Phreak
01-29-2003, 08:11 PM
there's no need to convert a .mov file. Simply rename it .mqv and save it to the mq_root/100mqv01 folder and it should be in your list of movies in your movie player.
Enjoy.
-Tek
Hi,
Thanks for the reply.
Any idea of any good program to convert .MOV to MPEG file ?
The .MOV file is large and if I just rename then it use up half the memory stick size.
Thanks again.
Tek Phreak
01-30-2003, 09:25 AM
converting it to mpeg will make it larger.... Unless you wish to convert it to mpeg, then reduce size and other things to make it smaller and then convert it back to .mqv. If this is what you want to do, then i think the latest version of quicktime allows of exporting in different formats. Other than that i'd say just search for one. After you convert it to mpeg you can edit that with tmpeg and then convert it back to your clie with image converter. A long process, but if it's worth it to yah....
Enjoy.
-Tek
nmincone
01-30-2003, 02:21 PM
Simply renaming a QuickTime v4 or v5 or v6 movie to .MQV will not allow a Clie to play back the movie. Sony's Image Converter application specially decodes/encodes the file for use on the Clie. if you have been successful playing QT movies without conversion using MS import, I suggest you post the details here for everyone to see.
clieconverted
01-30-2003, 03:51 PM
Tried converting an .avi file and it showed up but when directly to a white screen. The file was listed as a .mqv? Should there be another extension type?
Tek Phreak
01-30-2003, 05:09 PM
it wont convert avi's into viewable video, only mpegs. You'd have to convert the avi to a mpeg using tmpeg and then convert. However this will most likely give you a much larger file size. BUt with some tweaking you should be able to make it viewable.
Enjoy.
-Tek
hansschmucker
01-30-2003, 06:10 PM
frameserving is the key just use link2 from videotools.net to link a virtualdub framserver signpost vdr into image converter. Make sure RAW audio is enabled. This way you won't have any loss in quality and you can perform functions like crop/resize/color correction without saving your movie over and over again
Tek Phreak
01-30-2003, 06:31 PM
wait hans, i didn't quite follow some of the jargon there... are you saying that will allow you to convert a virtuald dub .avi file through image converter and then to the clie to make it viewable?
Enjoy.
-Tek
reactor18
01-30-2003, 10:43 PM
I have gotten MPEG-4 movies to play back. I had to use cleaner to convert them. I haven't triied any other formats, mostly because of size and Sony recommends MPEG-4 for playback. Does anyone know if you can save FROM the clie in MPEG-4 format?
Hi Everyone,
Thanks for the reply.
I now use the TMPGEnc program (with QT plugin) to convert my .MOV files to .MPG first then use image converter to MPEG-4 for my clie. It works perfectly with good image and sound.
I have a lot of MTV video in .MOV format which is from 50MB to 100MB size but after this conversion process they all down to 7~8MB. Perfect for keeping it on my MS. I now have all my favourite MTV on my NX.
I am a happy man now.
raphaels
01-31-2003, 07:44 AM
Hi,
Could you tell us the settings you used to create your MPG in TMPEG?
I tried to figure out... but my MPG are not accepted by image converter!
Thanks!
Raphael
Tek Phreak
01-31-2003, 08:35 AM
I don't know how tmpg could create an mpeg that is not convertable... the normal settings should be fine. Might want to check to make sure you not encoding into mpeg-2 though, other than that, i dunno what could be wrong...
Enjoy.
-Tek
P.S. hans scroll up if you read this to reply to me question. Thanks!
nmincone
02-13-2003, 05:15 PM
There is an awful lot of back and forth going on here. The solution is very simple. Take and QT, MOV, AVI or MPG file and drpo it on MS Import. Let it convert it for you and your all done. I don't see the need for a tmpg conversion to get the media to play on your Clie, unless your media is in a strange QT, MOV, AVI or MPG format that MS Import can not interpet.
nextyoyoma
02-13-2003, 05:58 PM
erm...ms import? no, that won't convert anything. I think you meant to say image converter...but otherwise, you're pretty much right. The problems I've had (and that others have had) also relate to problems with incorrectly coded .mov files. That is a problem for me. Basically, we have another flaw in sony's programing. They have made it so that the only way to view movies (without third party software such as kinoma) is to use their image conveter to convert movies exactly as they want....however, this is KINDA a good thing, because it automatically adjusts the resolution to an optimal setting for the desidered quality.
nmincone
02-13-2003, 10:27 PM
Yes, I meant to say Image Converter. I have MS Import on the brain. It works very well for all my video needs. I only wish there were QT6 settings I could find so I could do transfers from a Mac. You see, there is no Mac vers. of Image Converter, and a work around would be welcomed.
Unregistered
04-26-2003, 01:06 PM
Hi, i'm new to this forum, I've read a lot of posts similar to my situation, but none have been on the mark about my current problem.
I have trouble transfering my movies with MS import (after previously Converting an Image with IC), and having them play in the CLIE.
When i move them from the MS to the PC, or viceversa, the file doesn't play in my Clie. Only when i Image Convert them directly to the MS do they work.
Also when i rename the MQV and the MAI files for easier reference then numbers, they do not work. So everytime i have to reconvert from an original AVI, MPG and can't just swap MQV's that i've previously created.
After viewing, if i want to back up the movies to my HD to clean out the MS and convert a new movie, I have no trouble saving it to the PC. Its just restoring it onto the Clie later that causes problems.
The files don't show up on the clie viewer even after i restore the MQV and the MAI files.
Any help on how MQV's can be saved and restored? Or something easier then to constantly reconvert every image since sometimes files need to go through a couple step proccesses to be CLIE compatible. Thank you in advance and Please email me at kimisaac@hotmail.com
soybomb
04-26-2003, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by reactor18
I have gotten MPEG-4 movies to play back. I had to use cleaner to convert them.
reactor18, can you post the Cleaner settings file you used somewhere?
Juryrigger
04-26-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by nmincone
There is an awful lot of back and forth going on here. The solution is very simple. Take and QT, MOV, AVI or MPG file and drpo it on MS Import. Let it convert it for you and your all done. I don't see the need for a tmpg conversion to get the media to play on your Clie, unless your media is in a strange QT, MOV, AVI or MPG format that MS Import can not interpet.
This can be a real problem. A lot of QT files have weird compressed audio that WILL NOT allow them to play back properly when run through "image converter". Try dropping the latest Matrix trailer into MS import, and you will see what I mean...
-Jury
nmincone
04-27-2003, 08:07 PM
Does anyone know how to create a movie directly from QT Pro that will play on a Clie? If so, what are the exact export settings. Please post a full reply.
batsai
04-27-2003, 08:50 PM
I have a solution to the problem, and it's not that complicated.
I was experiencing the same problem with the latest Matrix trailer. You can reencode it as an mpeg, but I find I get better results by converting from .mov format.
When the above symptoms occur, it's usually because the audio is encoded in an unsupported format, namely VBR (variable bit rate). Here's the fix- make sure you have Quicktime Pro...
1. Load up the latest Matrix trailer.
2. If you choose Get Movie Info from the Window menu, you'll see that the audio format is listed as 'variable bitrate', which is NOT supported.
3. Choose 'Export' from the file menu.
4. Make sure next to Export, it says 'Movie to Quicktime Movie.'
5. Click on 'Options'
6. Make sure 'Video' is checked and click on 'Settings'
7. Choose 'Best' quality and click 'Ok'
8. Make sure 'Audio' is checked and click on 'Settings'
9. Select uncompressed, 44.100 KHz, 16 bit, and Stereo and click 'Ok'
10. Save the movie to your desktop, covert it with Image Converter and enjoy! You can delete the exported copy when done.
I hope this works for you! :D
Brownster
04-27-2003, 09:03 PM
I haven't seen the answer to this question...If I get QuickTime Pro, can i just rename the files converted to .mov files to .mqv and play them with MoviePlayer?
When I use Image Converter I get 128mb files.
Jim
mrbjg4
04-27-2003, 09:21 PM
The discussion is getting confusing. It is not the file extension that determines whether or not the file will run clean through image converter. By clean I mean viewable w/audio. It's the video codec/compression and audio format and compression which determine it. I have found that all avi's or mpg's run clean through the image converter utility as video type divx (prob some others too), and audio type mpeg layer 3 specific rates or MSADPCM. If a video is not compatible, the easiest (and it's not that easy) way to fix it is to pass it through a frameserver such as virtual dub, for full audio and video processing. It is not so hard, but takes a while and probably a lot of determination the first time through.
batsai
04-27-2003, 09:21 PM
No, that doesn't work- try selecting a lower quality when you encode your movies- standard or long instead of high. I actually see a pretty substantial savings in size when I encode my videos; the Matrix Reloaded trailer was over 38 MB when downloaded and only a little over 9 MB when converted with Image Converter at High quality.
Brownster
04-27-2003, 09:28 PM
So does Long Play setting have the converter write one large file instead of breaking it up into 128mb files?
I want to have one large file instead of multiple 128mb files
Jim
batsai
04-27-2003, 09:41 PM
Oops, I misunderstood your question, I'm sorry. I believe the 128 MB limit is built into Image Converter. If you encode at a lower quality, you'll be able to fit more video into that 128 MB limit. Sorry. BTW, what are you trying to encode?
Brownster
04-27-2003, 09:57 PM
I have some hour long tv shows...i can use standard play and get them under 128mg. There are some DVD's that I would like to try out...but not a necessity.
Jim
AndyJapan
04-28-2003, 02:01 AM
Brownster,
I can confirm that ImageConverter breaks up files in 128MB segments. I had the same problem that you described when I tried to convert the whole Matrix movie (MPEG1). Quite annoying, but I assume that ImageConverter was created when SONY did not yet think of larger media than the standard MS. Guess, we'll have to wait for an update.
Andy
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