Curious...You pay for your clie software?

[Chatbox]

Just wondering, how many people actually pay for their Clie's software? And if you do, what software is/are it/they?


Just very curious...

[yOyOYoo]

just curious, did you do a search about this topic before you posted?



well anyways, software applications that I paid for include: Agendus, Acid Image, McFile, MS Dictionary, YiShow, Pocketlink, Blazer, PocketMoney, MegaCalc, Wordsmith

Games that I paid for include: Bejeweled, Bump Attack Pinball, Acid Freecell, AtomSmash, and Zap2016

[pipedaddy]

Yes, if it's something I use a lot. I had to erase a few things once I realized I couldn't explain why it was OK to use shareware without paying to my daughter.

The registered/paid software:

WordSmith
iSilo
QED
BugMe!
ZLauncher
Bible Thumper
AppIcon
Wassup
DateBk5
JackFlash
JackSprat
PopUp Names

These came with the Clie, so I guess they're sort of paid for:
Documents to Go
Sheet to Go
Margi Presenter-to-Go

[utahjazz85]

Originally posted by yOyOYoo
just curious, did you do a search about this topic before you posted?


There hasn't been a warez topic since the crash. Don't be suck a jackass unless you can get it straight.

And lmfao @ the Hyundai owner acting like he pays for his software, we all know the truth.

[cbulock]

I think this would qualify:
http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1173&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

[rldunn]

Originally posted by utahjazz85


There hasn't been a warez topic since the crash. Don't be suck a jackass unless you can get it straight.

And lmfao @ the Hyundai owner acting like he pays for his software, we all know the truth. There's no need for this kind of language, especially since you're the one who needs to get it straight on this particular topic. Please refrain from posts like this in the future.

And why wouldn't a Hyundai owner pay for software? I fail to see the correlation.

[wellsjs]

Do you pay for your Big Macs, or use a gun? :D Of course I pay for good Palm OS software. You'll find free stuff, some quite good, but as a rule, if it's very good, it's not free. Though not always successful, I try to get what I pay for, and pay for what I get that's of value. It's the free enterprise way! :)

[jedix]

Originally posted by wellsjs
You'll find free stuff, some quite good, but as a rule, if it's very good, it's not free. :)

I agree with this completely. There are FEW really good free programs. I would rather pay for a great program than use a semi-par free program. That is why I pay for all my programs.

[Chatbox]

Ah, cool, so I got some positive answers...
So a Palm device programmer do get pay, it's good to know because I got my degree in software engineer back in June last year. And still unemployed at the moment. So I'm thinking maybe I should try to write some programs for my clie (which I got back in December, and totally loving it), and then maybe I can say "I've written some apps for my clie" on my CV...plus, maybe if I write something that you guys like, then I might get pay on the way too...

So, what are popular software that you guys would pay for? this list goes on....I want to know...

[Rosenkrantz]

Do I own all the software on my clie? I'll be honest - no. But i do onown a lot of it. Much of what I don't own I don't use that often. I know, if you don't use it - delete it. Well, I have the space so there it stays.

Palm Reader Pro
YahtC
Acid Image
BreakOut

and many others I own straight up.

[yoonsang]

At the moments, I paid for Hantip.

These came with the Clie, so I guess they're sort of paid for:
Documents to Go
Sheet to Go
Margi Presenter-to-Go

But I bought my Clie at Japan, so I'm not sure I have to buy english version again or not.

[sindu]

Chatbox,

Good for you...you want to do something you are trained for. You can take a look at palmgear.com to see which category of software is popular among the palm user and you can decide which software you want to write. I have been searching for a very good expense account which allow multiple trips and currency and yet able to sent it to Excel.

[jims]

Here is a previous thread on what people considered to be their "must have" apps.

1) This will show you what types of apps are popular
2) Many of them have time outs that will require purchasing a license for prolonged use, so assume that someone got paid sometimes. ;)

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58

[yOyOYoo]

Originally posted by utahjazz85


There hasn't been a warez topic since the crash. Don't be suck a jackass unless you can get it straight.

And lmfao @ the Hyundai owner acting like he pays for his software, we all know the truth.

For your information, i wasn't trying to be suck a jackass, (and yes I said suck) and I don't know how you can jump to that assumption so quickly. I simply made a kind comment and I even made a useful reply with factual information helping out the original poster.

You on the other hand ARE the jackass. Your post was directed straight at me. Please get your facts straight before you post such unnecessary thread crapping. Does your post service any purpose but to insult me and the hyundai owner.

Im sorry I am wasting this space making a reply to you, but I just wanted to point out your mistakes. No offense, lets be friends. :)

[wellsjs]

Don't develop launcher apps! You'll be driven crazy by staunch launcher loyal lunatics! :D :D :D

[Chatbox]

Oh, "don't develop launcher apps"?
Oh well, that's one option out the window...

[mjpd1]

In my opinion, if you're going to get into developing Palm apps, you should start small. Develop a few small, useful utilities and make them freeware. Make a name for yourself and gain the trust of your consumers. Let's face it, with a degree in software engineering, Palm OS apps should not be all that difficult for you. Once people see what you're capable of, the kind of support you offer, etc..., people will be much more willing to pay you $20 or $30 for a quality app.

As far as warez, sorry but I'm a fan to a certain extent. 15-day trials with half the options disabled is not going to convince me to buy a product...

EDIT: You might wanna try posting this is the "Clie Apps" forum...you'll probably get a better response as to what types of Apps to develop...

[sdkat2]

Originally posted by utahjazz85



And lmfao @ the Hyundai owner acting like he pays for his software, we all know the truth.

I'm a Hyundai owner because I spend too much money on apps. I've got 3 pages of purchases on Handango to prove it too. :p

[utahjazz85]

Originally posted by yOyOYoo


For your information, i wasn't trying to be suck a jackass, (and yes I said suck)

Newbieish and childish, you know it was a typo.


You on the other hand ARE the jackass. Your post was directed straight at me. Please get your facts straight before you post such unnecessary thread crapping. Does your post service any purpose but to insult me and the hyundai owner.


There were other posts like mine but the members only flip out on me, hahahaha. And one warez thread? Wow if I were doing a search I would be pretty po'ed if only one topic came up.

[utahjazz85]

For the most part, I treat everyone with fairness reguardless if I like them or hate them. But I can't stand to see people driving Hyundais thinking they own a good car. I mean that's insane that some people are paying $20,000 for crap! Same thing for the Kia owners, no mercy for you.

And how about when you see some teenager in a Hyundai Tiburon thinking their mommy and daddy bought them a real sports car, LMFAO!!!!

I've done my research on Hyundais, Kias, SOUTH KOREA and concluded that the people who buy these cars are poor, the others are just stupid.

[Anita]

The two pieces of free Palm OS software that I use and consider to be outstanding are Handy Shopper (a list program) and Vexed, a game. Interestingly enough, both developers have continued to improve those programs and they are still free.

I probably wouldn't pay for Vexed because I don't load up on games, even free games. I could set up something similar to HandyShopper in my ThinkDB/Smartlist program but actually would pay for HandyShopper now, since I already have all my shopping lists in it.

Since I upgraded to the Clie, I have found myself judging programs not only by their ability to do what I want, but also by their ability to use high-res capabilities, particularly small fonts. I just paid for Agendus strictly for the small-font features -- the rest of it is just candy for me. The built-in program was more than adequate for my needs, but doesn't have small fonts.

I'm also interested in the PC interface on many programs and how well that works.

One instant turnoff to me about a program is a really bad how-to-use-it manual. I just recently downloaded a hack I was interested in trying, but when I opened up the zip file and looked at the "manual", I trashed it immediately. I recognized the developer and I have seen his "manuals" before.

For me, the manual -- or the readme -- is the window to the software. I check those before I install anything, just to get an idea of how the program works. A complicated, poorly written, overwritten and convoluted manual -- or an underwritten manual -- raises all sorts of red flags to me.

And I'm not talking English-language problems from developers whose native language is other than English. I'll grant them all sorts of latitude (I think it's wonderful that they HAVE a manual in English <g>). I'm just talking BAD manuals or readmes.

So my plea to a developer would be that if you can't organize a decent manual or readme, don't be shy. Ask someone else to do it for you.

My rant for the day...

Anita

[yOyOYoo]

I don't know anything about Hyundais but I don't think they suck THAT bad, I mean after all don't they have "America's Best Warranty"? Its like 100,000 miles or something.

I had a honda accord 2 dr. v6 that had its engine die on me, because there was a massive honda recall on its automatic transmission.

Made me mad at honda =(

well everyone is entitled to their own decisions. I hate the Tungsten, but there are people out there that hate the Clie.

[utahjazz85]

America's worst car company with America's best warranty will lure more people in looking at cars in the same class who are too cheap to want to maintain their car out of their wallet.

[jrockway]

Originally posted by yoonsang
At the moments, I paid for Hantip.

These came with the Clie, so I guess they're sort of paid for:
Documents to Go
Sheet to Go
Margi Presenter-to-Go

But I bought my Clie at Japan, so I'm not sure I have to buy english version again or not.

I downloaded the evaluation version at DataViz's site and now I can even do charts within SheetToGo. It seemed to upgrade _and_ change to English!

However, since I do not have a windows machine, I cannot say whether or not the desktop software works. Oh well.

[Chatbox]

"I've done my research on Hyundais, Kias, SOUTH KOREA and concluded that the people who buy these cars are poor"

Are you implying something about poor people?

I believe the "poor" you mean is the kind that doesn't have a large number in their bank account.

I believe there are a lot more things out there more important to a person other than a bunch of numbers. Dignity, pride, compassion for others...

After all, think about it, a rich person probably means he's getting a lot of money from somewhere. This somewhere means either a job (legal) and/or other events (illegal). Job with high pay, well, it can mean you're very well educated. However, well educated doesn't mean you'll have a well pay job, and vice-versa. At the end of the day, money is just money, you can have a lot of money and still not happy (it's true).

I wish the world just wouldn't dwell on money as much.

[Macabre Man]

You guys just crack me up.

[schaper]

I think that this thread is starting to get a little personal and off the subject with the whole Hyundais, cars and "poor" talk. When I see a post like Utah originally posted, I see some with not much experience with what time can do to people(e.g. I'll never do this or that and next month they are advertising it. Have you driven a hyundai, Utah?) All the other people who are being cross with this opinion, it's only one person...... let them think what they want, you probably know better.
Most of the time when we criticize anothers actions, if we were in the same boat with the same background we would choose the same action.

Lets get on with the Clie software subject.

[Chatbox]

"Most of the time when we criticize anothers actions, if we were in the same boat with the same background we would choose the same action."

Rather unlikely.
Even when background and situation are identical, outcome/decisions can be very different from different people. That's what makes us unique.

[cbulock]

I agree with schaper about this getting off topic. Lets try not to get into being sterotypical by associating cars with groups of people. This isn't the place for it.



:D :D

[bwit]

Originally posted by wellsjs
You'll find free stuff, some quite good, but as a rule, if it's very good, it's not free.

In general I'd tend to agree with this. I'd be interested to know what free apps people think are very good.

bw

[timewaster77]

One great free app is Avantgo. Yes I know that it has a subscription service for over 2MB, but the software is still freeware.

As for programs I use a lot: Student 4.0 by Handmark.

[rob_squared]

Since my palm is less important than my desktop PC I only buy software that I wish to "support". Like omniremote and backdropGC because I want them to succeed and in the case of backdrop to support hires+ devices.

But let's be honest, you can get just about every piece of software you need for free. But what really annoys me are the people who try to rationalize that kind of theft by saying "they expect a certain amout of piracy", or "I could't buy it anyway, so they're not losing money."

[blastradius]

A great piece of freeware is MyCheckbook as well as YAPS. The only thing MyCheckbook doesn't do is synchronize with PC Quicken. YAPS is a password keeper utility that stores entries encrypted in memory. The Palm utility is free and you can buy a viewer to view the YAPS entries backed up on your PC too.

The list of software I purchased since my Clie purchase is:
BackupBuddy
Bejeweled
Easylock
FastCPU
funSMS
Kinoma Producer
MegaLauncher
Mobipocket Oxford Dictionary (wish I bought MS Dict instead)
PowerRun
ShadowPlan and Desktop
XTNDConnect (to sync Palm Device, Palm Desktop, Outlook, and T68i)
YAPS Viewer for PC

[GLORYBEARER]

Originally posted by bwit


In general I'd tend to agree with this. I'd be interested to know what free apps people think are very good.

bw

These are mostly all the freeware apps I have loaded. I think they're some of the best (I have them under the categories that I use):

MAIN TAB

1 Year
A5
CBF Timer
DateBkCat
Holidays
McJobs (just in case. hardly use though)
Pane
Parking Lot (hardly use)
Projects
Ruler
TikTok
Yesterday

FINANCES TAB

Best Price (just loaded. don't know how useful)
Hours
WyrdIOU

STUDY TAB

Acrobat Reader
BDicty (unregistered version. don't care for the other features)
Palm Bible Reader
Bible Reader by Olive Tree
Bible Readme
Data Viewer
List
Quizzler

GAMES

Go
Konane
Memorix
OpenChess
Patience
PegSol
PilotGOne
Pilotski
Sea War
Space Trader
Stones
Bug Trap
Tan Free
Traffic
Vexed
vPoker
Yahdice

ENTERTAINMENT

Kinoma Player

UTILITIES

AppIcon
Colorize
Filez
Graffiti Anywhere
HR Capt
Keygen
Launch This!
Soft Track!

SYSTEM

Analyzer
CrsLauncher (my first launcher. don't use it, but still have it.)
DALauncher
SikSkin Change
Speedy
Stability Test
Syncer
XMaster

[Yuriv]

I'm very happy with my Hyundai -> and wonder what you mean by "poor," am I "poor" because I can't afford a lexus?
As far as I remember from another thread, Utahjazz is not old enough to drive....

Registered apps include:

LauncherX - excellent launcher, meets all my needs
Galactic Realms - great at first...but then I got tired of it before I finished
Kyle's Quest - the included level was good, but I haven't tried any others yet
Kinoma Producer - really a desktop app, but definitely a must have
Aldon's Crossing - not registered yet, but it will be my next program when I decide I need new amusement for on the subway

For the rest I find the available freeware meets most of my needs. I think TomeRaider is an exception though, I want to get the Oxford Desktop Encyclopedia installed on my Clie - it'll be a great help with the New York Times Saturday Crossword...

[thenightfly42]

I pay for what I need. In other words, if I can find a freeware app that does what I need sufficiently, I won't use the shareware one. If I need the shareware one, I pay for it.

[madkins007]

I have several paid-for programs, including a scarily large number I paid for and either no longer need (OmniRemote), or cannot use on my Clie (Portable Innovations stuff for the MemPlug), etc.

Currently, I have a paid for launcher (YiShow), word processor (WordSmith), date book replacment (Agendus), Bugme!, and some games (BeJeweled 6 pack, Text Twist, 10,000, Shanghai, TriPeaks, etc.)

Generally I play a game for as long as the demo lasts and decide if I liked it enough to pay for it, or just drop it. I liked Lemonade Tycoon, but I can't justify the cost. I have reloaded it a couple times to see if I have changed my mind, but I have not.

I use a lot of freeware. FileZ, Moon Phase, Converter, YahDice, Backgammon, PocketChess, AvantGo, dbScan, Big Clock, Kinoma, ClipList, KeepSleep, Vexed, Triviopedia, ThinFont. My kids use mostly freeware on their PDAs- including Today, an old freeware version of Launcher III, etc.

I think that some of these free programs are superior to many paid programs. KeepSleep disables the hardware buttons simply and efficiently in the Prefs section, while the shareware equivilant is a hack. I have yet to find a shareware backgammon game as good as the freeware version- ditto for Othello/Reversi.

Yeah, a LOT of freeware is garbage, and a lot of the rest is mediocre, but then again- the same can be said for shareware stuff!

[RNclie]

I had a lot of "freeware" programs on my old T615 and then began having problems with it crashing. Now with my T665 I try to stick with only well known paid for programs and haven't had any problems.

[clieuser150]

There are a couple of games that are freeware but generally you have to pay for it. EVERYTHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE PAID FOR IS PAID FOR. Datebk5, zzlauncher, Chess, Scrabble, Atom Smash, Klondike, Pacman, several launchers that I am no longer using. Etc, etc.