Be Honest: is there anybody who really is happy with his NZ90?

[mhb]

Hello,
I had the strong wish to buy a Clie NZ90. But after reading many threads, it seems as everybody is unhappy with his NZ90. Battery life, form faktor and RAM seem to be major issues not to like the device.
So an honest question: I know it is hard to admit to have bought the wrong device, but are there people out there who "really" love their NZ and want to keep it a for long time?
Thanks for answering! I would like to finally make up my mind what to buy: a NX70, a NX80 or a NZ90?

[Unregistered]

i'm actually quite happy with mine.

[tonyreynolds]

Originally posted by mhb
Hello,
I had the strong wish to buy a Clie NZ90. But after reading many threads, it seems as everybody is unhappy with his NZ90...

WOW!

I'm thinking about getting an NZ90 (Friday's announcement notwithstanding...), and I got the opposite impression by reading the threads.

Did you mean threads here in the NZ forum or somewhere else? People here have generally been very positive IMO.

(Perhaps they have to be to justify the cost.)

The NZ seems like a fairly unique animal, with a lot of good points if you can put up with the bad ones, ie, shot battery life, 10 oz. weight, etc...

Tony

[Denis]

I'm very happy with mine.

Does that mean I consider it to be perfect?

NO!

But it comes considerably closer to providing perfection than any other Palm OS device I've owned (going all the way back to my Pilot 1000 in 1996) and I DO intend to keep it for a couple of years.


When trying to decide what device to buy for yourself, I think the best thing to do is to first decide what you intend to use it to accomplish, then match real hardware to your personal spec.

All of your possible choices are good.

Good Luck!

Denis

[Bo_]

YES... I am VERY happy with my NZ90

It does more things right than any other device I have owned.


Bo

www.bophoto.com/clie

[billymac1268]

Yes, I'm happy with mine, & it has everything I want in it. MP3 player, Bluetooth, 2 MegaPixel camera...Everything all in one!

[kitfreak]

After the first week with my NZ90 I was beginning to think I had made a mistake. This was solely due to the poor battery life. However, after trying the running the battery all the way down trick, that some posters had mentioned, battery life is now much better. It is still not ideal, but it is good enough for me.

Now I love my NZ, and would not have anything else.

[Clie-mama]

I am VERY happy with my NZ90. Sure, I wish it had a better battery life, but other than that IT ROCKS! Having a 2 MP camara, MP3 player, beautiful screen display, and ability to surf the web with Wi-Fi make it worth every penny for me. I plan on keeping it for at least 2 years, (about the average lifespan for a PDA with me anyhow.)

[Rosenkrantz]

Very early on I expressed dissatisfaction with my NZ. The battery performance was poor (even with the camera upgrade) and the flash would only last for a handful of shots. I disliked the size and weight and clumsiness. I downgraded just yesterday (even got store credit for the difference) to the NX80 and so far veyr very happy. Battery life seem quite remarkable and little things like the light up keyboard and fast loading camera are icing on the cake.

[tonyreynolds]

Originally posted by Clie-mama
I am VERY happy with my NZ90. Sure, I wish it had a better battery life, but other than that IT ROCKS! Having a 2 MP camara, MP3 player, beautiful screen display, and ability to surf the web with Wi-Fi make it worth every penny for me. I plan on keeping it for at least 2 years, (about the average lifespan for a PDA with me anyhow.)

How do you find the screen to be outdoors?

Some have said that the new NX's are much better than the old in this regard, but it's my understanding that the NZ screen was better than the NX60/70 anyway. Is this true?

One of my biggest gripes with my Jornada, besides the PIM's, is the way the screen is nearly unreadable in outdoor light.

Tony

[Unregistered]

I am very happy with my NZ90. Most of the percieved short commings of this device are either exaggerated or able to be worked around. I have a Ipaq 3650, HP Jornada 520, and Palm IIIE and the NZ is by far the best one I have seen. Take a look at the issues broght forth

1. Size- When you put the NZ90 in a case (as I do with all my PDAs) The difference in size is only about MAYBE an inch in any given demension. I can fit my NZ in my pocket. It is a little bulky but not much more noticable than say my IPAQ.

2. RAM- No matter which pda I use the amount of on board ram will be enough espesically if you plan to take pictures, record movies, mp3 player, ect,,. Through the use of Memory sticks I do not even notice the amount of (or lack of) Internal memory

3. Battery Life- With the assessories available (Car charger, battery extender, travel charger) battery life is not an issue at all. I have been able to record 30 minutes of video and take 100+ pictures with flash with no battery life issues/problems.

4.Cost- Yes the retail price of the NZ90 is $799; However, if you are willing to shop around (as I did) there is not need to pay any where near this amount. I purchased my NZ90 for $535( about the same as other high end PDAs) shipped. Pricewatch.com, Ebay, Pricegrabber.com, Bizrate, ect are all good places to shop around for good deals and alot of the places you can find dealers with return policies and warrenties.

All other things being equal There is no better PDA on the market today and mine is not going anywhere. I can honestly say that I do not regret getting this device

[Drachen]

mhb: Everything you've heard on these forums is basically true. The device is big and bulky, it's got mediocre battery life, it doesn't have a lot of RAM and there are a few design issues. If none of those things bother you, or you are prepared to work around them, by all means get the device. I don't use the flash much and I recharge it regularly both at home and at work and I keep a lot of large programs in flash or on my memory stick. Otherwise, I am VERY happy with the device. In addition to organizing my life, I play music on it, surf the web while commuting, read ebooks and more. It was the best electronics purchase I've made in a long time, and considering the number of toys I have, that's saying a lot!

If on the other hand, one or more of these problems bothers you to the point where you don't want to use the device, don't waste your money on something you won't like. The Tungsten C is a much lower-cost alternative without many of the NZ's failing points.

I will be upgrading at the end of the year or so, mainly because I have a compulsion to upgrade devices! Sony has stacked the bar pretty damn high for PDAs with the NZ90, and there isn't a model out or announced yet that would make me want to give it up for another model.

tony: It washes out quite a bit in direct sunlight, but it's clearly legible. I don't know if it means anything to you, but it is about the same as my Casio E-200 was. I can't say the same for my brand new T616, though... :rolleyes:

[greg elmassian]

for my use, it is the optimum pda right now... not bragging, but cost is no issue, and if the new one coming out on friday is better i'll buy it.... yes it's big, and has some limitations, but i wanted hi res, fast, swappable batteries, bluetooth, 802.11 capability, mp3 player, cf capability.... got them all...

greg

[gadgetman901]

I love it! Now that I can finally use it's BT capabilities to get online unlimited, the sky's the limit! This is the best product on the market. I actually do not mind the size, plus I like the battery option since I can swap it on the go!

[AnthonyM]

<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">I&nbsp;love mine. Not sure who you have been talking too or where you have been reading all of these negative things about the NZ90 but I do not know anyone that owns one that is dissatisfied with it. It is not perfect (there isn't a perfect PDA) but it is worth the little imperfections.</SPAN>

- Anthony

[orol]

if I had that much money I would definitely buy one
it's a great machine. not that bulky as it looks like ..
the keyboard is great (could have backlight)
otherwise really great unit
I would definitely go for it even in favor of nx series

[jedix]

I love mine! I got it the first weekend it came out, and its the first one I think I'll keep for the long term! I can't say anything bad about it.

[penwatch1]

I love the NZ-90 and it is one awesome handheld. Great performance so far and the camera is really cool. Yes it uses alot of battery power but thats life, nothing is ever perfect.

Live long and prosper NZ-90

[vansouza]

I love it, close to sickness I love it...

[EvilErnie]

Love it! Nothing else comes close. With all it features, its worth the buck you are paying for.

[mhb]

Thanks for all the posts. I think I will go for the NZ! How about battery life if you are not using the camera a lot? Will it last a full day work with appointments, notes, voice recording?
How much fash is available with Jackflash?
I will come to the US in August. How much tax do I have to pay in Chicago? Why is there no tax if I buy online? Would you recommend buying online and where?

[RonEMP1]

I've used each and every unique feature there is.... it's a Nintendo emulator, it's a Gameboy emulator, it's a arcade emulator, it's a alarm clock, it's a web browser, it's a remote, it's a Windows XP desktop remote, it's a voice recorder, it's a mp3 player, it's a camera, it's a video recorder, it's a dictionary, it's a graphic calculator, it's a picture album, it's a movie player, it's a ebook-reader, it's a... it's a... it's a... I Freakn love it!!! every drop, every OZ... I love my NZ90 to death... If anyone hates it too much, then wipe that dust off your NZ90 and sell it on ebay, to someone who really really deserves it! In short: Don't like it, sell it, someone will put it into good use.

[Unregistered]

i am happy

[mhb]

Can I use my accesories of the NR70 with the NZ90, like extra usb-hotsync cable or charger cable?

[Drachen]

mhb: AFAICT the biggest power drainers are the MP3 player, the camera flash and the WiFi card. It should last you an entire day for normal business use, but you are probably going to have to charge it every day for heavy use. To be honest, if you don't use Bluetooth or the camera, getting an NX would be the better purchase. If you want the camera and/or BT, the NZ is the way to go.

You'll get about 4 MB in flash with JackFlash.

I seem to recall that sales tax in Chicago is well over 8%.

[Unregistered]

count me as happy

[Drachen]

The hotsync and charger cables will work, but the cradle is TOTALLY different.

[Unregistered]

so what, just use a cable, i'm happy!

[LaserProUSA]

I am very satisfied for business purposes and utilize the camera quite a bit, bluetooth with my bt gps, bt printer, and bt computer. I use the LAN card only for email purposes as Netfront although great simply has to many read errors. I've invested so much into my NZ90 as this is the closest to a complete notebook replacement possible.

My only gripes are really multimedia related. So with my new iPAQ 5555 and it's built in Wifi and Bluetooth I have a great web surfing platform, can watch Windows Media video, RealPlayer video, Flash animation, MP3 ability, audio books (excellent organizing audio via playlists) and of course gaming. These issues could easily be addressed by Sony but since they haven't been yet I keep my NZ90 for business ONLY and the iPAQ for multimedia/Internet/gaming.

Hopefully this new Clie soon to be announced will address these issues and I can dump the iPAQ :)

[Unregistered]

i love my nz90!

[Flash-57]

I'll have to agree with the majority. I love the NZ90, but wish it had better battery life.

But, I have a charger at home and at work, so I am never away from the nearest charger for more than about 4 hours. In that time, I rarely drop below 79% charge, even if I am using the PDA constantly for those 4 hours.

As for the size, initially I didn't like it. But now, whenever I have to hold my wife's N760C (my old one), it feels cheap and flimsy.

[Unregistered]

Just got one yesterday and it's fantastic.....sure the battery life could be better...but if you can affoard to buy this NZ90, just buy an extra battery.

Look at the size of the machine and the gadgets that are packed into it? There aren't may laptops that weigh 10 times as much, that could do what this little power bundle can do.

Look at the resolution alone.....

[billdupont]

I LOVE it!

With second battery, battery life no longer bothers me.

Everything else is WONDERFUL!

Camera
Bluetooth
Screen
Everything!

[jlbunting]

I am happy and would buy it all over again with no regrets.
Battery life at first seemed short but not any more. I charge it every night and it easily gets me through a day.

[CYber_Stingray]

Well I have to agree with many of you above... I LOVE my NZ90... and yes the Battery life could be longer; but again as mentioned above; two is better then one!...

[csuser]

Sony has wasted precious RAM with software I dont want. Their poorly-thought-through drivers require download updates which take up more RAM. Launchers help somewhat but ASony puts a lot of poorly thought-out devices on the mkt. Their support is poor.

For me, NZ 90 is not enough real work machine and too much premature toy. They follow up with the UX which seems like it fell-off the drawing board also. Sony acts like the world is their sucker.

Stick with Palm they're the truly fastidious group with excellent support.

[Enceladus]

I too love my NZ. The pics are amazing. In the whole line of palm powered pdas it's quite a unique model.

[dstabb]

Drachen mentions the MP3 player as a battery drainer. I've not found it objectionable. If you are into fidelity, battery life may be extended by sending the output to a headphone amplifier (look at www.headwize.com and www.headphone.com). You can even drive real audiophile headphones with them. (I drive some etymolics and audio technica, but not my stax).

Configuring the NZ90 with all you want does require a bit of work, but I am quite happy with the PDA. It's a lot smaller than my old Newton!. And it's a lot more competent than the Tungsten T I used to use. So far, the worst was getting it to talk properly to my Nokia phone and use ATT wireless internet, but that's been solved thanks to help here.

____|)avid

[tonyreynolds]

I just got back from the local CompUSA and had the opportunity to play with the NZ90 and the NX80 side-by-side. The NZ really ISN'T that much bigger. My guess would be about 15%.

Both units are very nice, but the NX80 with the CF slot deployed (the way I would need to carry it, not wanting to insert and remove cards continually...) is ALMOST as thick at the top as the NZ...

Both cameras worked well indoors. On these digicams as is the case with many, there is significant shutter lag, so it's essential that the camera be held still for the 2-3 second AFTER the shutter is pressed.

Faced with the possible situation of getting a new NZ with a discount at around $600, and with the NX80 going for $599, I'd have to go with the NZ...

Tony

[gadgetman901]

Anyone figure out how to hack the cradle to allow it to play movies through it instead of just jpegs? I wish Sony allowed this to work.

[gadgetman901]

Anyone figure out how to hack the cradle to allow it to play movies through it instead of just jpegs? I wish Sony allowed this to work.

[greg elmassian]

the hack would not be in the cradle, but in software, the video is generated in the clie...

Greg

[cyclist]

I own 5 computers. . .2 Dell Laptops, an HP Desktop, Dell Desktop. . .and the NZ90. The 90 is the one that gets the biggest workout. It's a WONDERFUL machine and does nearly everything the others do. . .and it's truly portable.

An outstanding replacement for a laptop/desktop computer.

I love it.

[laforgeNZ]

Yes I am VERY happy with my NZ90/U and will keep it indefinately( that means beyond the three year warranty I purchased from Future Shop).

[EvilErnie]

Originally posted by billdupont
I LOVE it!

With second battery, battery life no longer bothers me.

Everything else is WONDERFUL!

Camera
Bluetooth
Screen
Everything!

It would make more sence if sony made an external charger for the NZ's batts. Right now the only way to charge then is through the NZ itself. Imagine charging the batt the whole night, you have to wake up just to change the batt. If there was a charger one could use the full batt and charge the empty one.

[tonyreynolds]

Originally posted by EvilErnie


It would make more sence if sony made an external charger for the NZ's batts. Right now the only way to charge then is through the NZ itself. Imagine charging the batt the whole night, you have to wake up just to change the batt. If there was a charger one could use the full batt and charge the empty one.

There is a charger from Maha that will do this:

http://www.thomas-distributing.com/maha-mh-c777.htm

Tony

[mkpc]

I am extremely happy with my NZ90.&nbsp; I can't even think of a thing that Sony could put into a newer model that would entice me to upgrade - at least in the next 6 months or so.&nbsp;

The ONLY thing I would change on the 90 is the paint job! One that doesn't peel.....

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[pdagal]

That one is for NiMH / NiCad batteries. Might not be a good idea for Lithium Ion batteries since they have different charge requirements and heat sensitivity.

Originally posted by tonyreynolds


There is a charger from Maha that will do this:

http://www.thomas-distributing.com/maha-mh-c777.htm

Tony

[upshot88]

Hi all fellow CLIERS,

Ever since I set eyes on the NZ90 and having read so many comment on it...I can say there are more nay-sayer then those who holds positive sentiments about the CLIE NZ90.

From the first day it was introduced ..The CLIE NZ90 is a difference beast. Yes some of the nay-sayer would say Sony comes out with too many models to choose from. Well that's business for you and they were trying to market to as broad a market as they can universally. But variety is not there so much to confuse but more to cater to various people with various needs and budget. I had been a CLIE PDA owner for a long time since the first model in fact. ( okay I confess...I think Sony has made some great stuff.. they did not get to be that big and famous for nothin' ) NZ90 is my 4th CLIE. And by far the best built and fortunate for me it fit my need and all done in a package that appeal to me.

Heavy? Bad battery? big like a brick? Limited flash? I still think a lot of thought went into developing it and yes it could always be better...but then is that not why so many successive models keep coming up every 6-12 month? You want the best parts and bits for your money..I tell you what...keep it! Just keep reading about each successive model that comes out. There will always be a better one around the corner ..... deal with it.

But for those who came to find this CLIE NZ90 a really cool and handy piece of technology .... you know what I am talking about. Yes it sapped more power but that is why it has a removal battery pack right? So you could insert another and carry on whatever you are doing outdoors or far from a power point. Get more batteries. It has a more powerful camera that stands at 2 megapixel CCD (not some cheap early generation CMOS found in cheap digi webcam) and a fair powerful flash. This camera is more complex thus needs draw more juice to work. For those like me, who knows photogaphy especially those who switch to digital camera like me (Sony S70 & 717 digital camera) you know how much battery it can eat when shooting with the flash. I know how much power flash will suck off the batteries. When I was using a Metz Flash system with my Nikon 35mm film camera, the battery attachment unit that power the flash was as heavy as two brick which you sling to your shoulder. And it would cost you an arm and leg to purchase at least two of them if you use alot of flash in your photography like a wedding.

Memory stick? Yes alot of nay sayer hate this memory...I hear this for years. My first encounter with them was with my Sony S70 digital camera. Till today I still have the first 4 pieces of 128mb. They are still working like the first day I bought them. I am sure SD, CF and Flash cards are great too. But I see nothing wrong if Sony is promoting them and making them exclusive to their product. Back then you might have valid reasons to hate them as they were too proprietary and expensive but prices are falling and price will fall further as more companys are also starting to take the manufacturuing licencing and producing memory stickers to sell too. Companies like Lexar, Hagiwara..etc. As they have the broad base to market to, price will soon fall further if anything to compete with CF, Microdrives...etc. In any case already some folk have found ways to get around using the CF slot. I think Sony see it as unavoidable that they will be those who will not use the memory sticks. If they really want to make sure you can use the CF slot for anything else but the wireless module..they would be suing eruward for infringement in writing programs to take advantage of that slot to fit a CF memory model on it. Okay I might be just guessing but so long as there option and more thrid parties taking an interest in exploiting more features and ability of the NZ90 or other future Sony PDA models..I think that is good news for us all :)

And with the added feature and a better, solid and tougher casing which I have to say is the coolest next to Titanium. That would adds weight...I can live with that. I had a Newton before ...you want to talk heavy..I have experienced heavy but even then I love the newton way back then. ;P

If it is the size of a brick as some call it and can't fit the front pocket of your shirt. I say..tough baby! :) ....deal with it realisitically. Even if you had the lightest Palm Titanium PDA...would you really want to place it in your front pocket. Hell! I have yet to see any owner of a PDA in all these years who would put it in their pocket. They might in the begining so they too can live up to that damn 'cool' claim a PDA can fit in your front pocket. What they meant as a marketing ploy is that is is SMALL enough and compact. But in real life, it is missing from their pocket after a very short while. For one thing ( especially in Asia) where it is humid and if you tend to sweat easy..( your shirt get's all hot and wet from sweat from your chest and near your armpits level) you are doing more damage by introducing wet smelly sweat to your PDA ....opps..okay, you put it in a leather case.....well now not only would sweat moisture get into the PDA ( which might creat fungus on the screen underside) it also soil the leather casing it might be placed within as sweat is absorb into it. Plus what if one day you forgot you had it in your pocket and you bend down to pick something up or you had to make a mad dash and your pda come flying out of your pocket ....BANG.. good luck!

As for the weight...if you dont intend to place it in your pocket but in your hand or your side pouch or bag...what weight are the wimps talking about here that is "so" heavy? A few hundreds of grams or a few tons?

As the technology progress, pda like other tech toys will gets smarter, offer more features, more powerful and user friendly..... the best of the best of these techno toys will not alway mean getting smaller, lighter and less costly to use or maintenance. In fact sometime it can be more the opposite. A PDA can only be so small and so light to a point. When Sony first introduce the NR70 with the bigger 320x480 screen I thought it was a god send compared to whatever pda was in the market for the many years before! Then when colour come to the mini screen of a PDA.....battery life took a hit!....Colour PDA did not last as long in terms of battery life...but why are people still buying it....(me include) ...Becasue we can deal with and did not mind it as we have more better feature that compensated for the shorter battery life. So this time it got bigger and not smaller. But doing so meant using up more battery power. Can you live with that? I dont know about the majority or nay-sayers...but I sure can!

The NZ90 is not your usual PDA as per say..it was built that way for a reason ( it targets a niche group of users) beside, nobody is forcing you to buy it.....there are choices...if you choice the NZ90 and then regret it after using it for a day or two..... I have to ask why you bought it to begin with when there are enough information out there for you to make an "INFORMED" choice unless youare telling me you were seduce by the fact that it was the most expensive and latest, thus let you be the envy of all your peers then I think the nay-sayer's arguement is muted.

So am I happy with my CLIE? You bet! You would too if you bought it for all the right reasons. It is not cheap but it comes with the territory of owning a NZ90...if cost is a factor, this is not for you. Get a writing pad or a filofax :)

And if you finally choose to buy it....congratulation and welcome to the club of NZ90 owners. It is a great buy...take your time to get to know it. The day you bring it home...stop reading anymore comments about it. Erase all the links and article good and bad about it. Just play with it and find out for yourself now. How good it really. That is why you bought it to begin with right? For your own use not for the sake of some nay-sayer. :)

But if you feel it does not fit your need and you rather not buy it that is fine too. Happiness is finding something you like that fits your idea of use. There are no wrong or bad PDA really....just wrong choices made by human beings buying them....most of the time anyway :P LOL


Just my two cents......

[rasto]

HI,

best reading about NZ90,
I enjoy new NZ90 which is to come with me friend, from USA.
and I then stop read... but I start have a good time.
My "old" NX70 leave...

[tonyreynolds]

Upshot88:

VERY good comments and exactly my reasoning and why after all the research I've done in considering a switch BACK to Palm OS from PPC, the NZ90 is STILL at the top of my list.

I don't have to have the most expensive thing, nor the latest. I won't spend top-dollar for the NZ anyway, I'll find a deal somehow. My friends would think I was STUPID for spending $800 and change on a PDA, not COOL.

I'm a professional designer and I happen to really believe that 'form follows function'. And function is the thing that's most important to me. I applaud Sony for giving us so many choices...

Excellent post!

Tony

[PvV]

Right on, Upshot! Glad to see your intelligent and well-reasoned arguments in favor of the NZ90. I'm one of the black-brick owners and have never been happier with a PDA. It does more things than any other PDA I have ever owned and it does them better than anything else on the market. I was willing to spend the bucks and got an amazing device for it. Certainly no buyer's remorse here!

[oneeyesquare]

I had a brief affair with a NX80v... I brought it back... I honestly prefer the NZ more. Feature set is far better. Camera smokes the 80. Builtin bluetooth. Size isn't as nice, but it fits in my Targus case with the extra battery just fine. It is an awesome convergance device. One package containing every little gadget I would normally like to carry minus the phone. Seeing as the phones are practically free with a contract here in the US, I could care less if Sony ever makes a phone/Clie.

[upshot88]

tonyreynolds:


Salutation Tony,

Like yourself I am in the art direction and desiging work :) I am not surprise you feel the same way. Looking at it from a packaging design angle..Sony has alway been up there. they spare no expense in good design. Of course it will never be B&O ( look at the price difference that's okay if it loses to more exotic brands) But judge among it's peers it give the best bang for your buck it is really right up there close to what you would call Designer Products but at reasonable pricing.

Frankly, they got it right this time with the colour. Due to it's larger size, keeping the casing colour dark blue-like made it look smaller compare to the NV or NV models.

In terms of functions I think folks in the multimedia would find it pretty good for moderate uses. I mean if you really want raw power usage and portability...I would be bringing along a G4 Mac or Sony Vaio multimedia note book. But for a multimedia person who want something to use after the work hours..the NZ90 is a good standby when you need it.

For what's it advantages and limitation, it still manage to do more for me because I fit the NZ90's feature or the target group that Sony made the NZ90 for......well almost....I needed longer battery life( I bought 2 more batters) I like the Bluetooth as it will go well with my next purchase, the SonyErisson T610 but I want wireless as it is more popular in Singapore at majority of cafes and public places ( so I bought the wireless module) I love my mp3s I download tons from the usernet.alt.newsgroup but it does not have a single memory stick given to me free with the NZ90( so I bought 1 more 256mb memory stick + my 4 older 128mb sticks)...so as I see it...there are options!! So, once I got all those parts....I am one happy camper!!!.

And yes ...like you I try to find the best prices for the additional components..happy to say I got slightly better prices. Fine by me.

Thanks for your comment by the way.....

Cheers

Sammy (upshot88)

[tonyreynolds]

Originally posted by upshot88
Thanks for your comment by the way.....

... you're quite welcome. Isn't the Internet great? You get to meet people from all over the world!

Tony

[upshot88]

Originally posted by tonyreynolds


... you're quite welcome. Isn't the Internet great? You get to meet people from all over the world!

Tony


Tony,

Great? You bet and I have been lucky to be a apart of it for the past 15 yrs at the very least.

I have to confess I have been very silent on these forum....was more active at one time in the ww.spug.net. But in that site...I hardly have anyone who talks about NZ90. There is quite a bit of naysayer there....that or NZ90 are too embrassed by negative talk about the NZ90 BRICK that no one dare own up to it. heheh....I hope I am wrong heh

[DISenchanted]

I agree, all that is missing is the phone... and mine is due out in October.

http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/3338.html

Anyone had any experience with the hbh-35 bluetooth headset and the nz90?

DISenchanted

[laforgeNZ]

Upshot88

I want to thank you for the excellent post on your experience with the NZ90. As a new NZ90 owner I have heard A LOT of negative comments about this Clie unit especially from individuals who have switched to the NX73 and NX80.

Lets be clear, the NZ90/U is NOT a perfect unit and Cliesource members as well as the unregistered guest have an obligation to post their comments about the problem they have encountered with it. Why? So that customer pressure of some level can be put on Sony Electronics to fix them in the next generation of the NZ90 which could be announced as early as Late September of this year.

From February 2003 to the present, Sony Electronics has made it very clear that the NZ90 was aimed at the high end PDA user market. From the initial press release it was marketed to individuals working in the professional services and industrial field as well as photo enthusiast who wanted a PDA that took better pictures. The NX series of Clies were aimed at individuals who wanted a smaller design with powerful tools.

I would like to point out that the NZ90 is still considered one of the most evolutionary and advanced Palm PDA ever developed (at this point of time-2003).There are a lot of Cliesource members who have had positive experiences in using the NZ90 (like my self). For example I used my NZ90 to take photo's of my niece's graduation from the Centinniel College Nursing School. When I talked to her recently she told me that the photo's taken by her friends at the graduation did not come out because they were too dark. All the 24 photo's taken by the NZ90 were nearly flawless and now she has the CD with the pictures to be developed.

In addition a lot of the positive experiences I have had with the PEG-NZ90/U would not have been possible with out the technical support from Cliesource members WHO have ironed out many problems on issues such as: Importing MPEG-4 recording into Apple Quicktime 6; ClieCamS usage, Bluetooth, eruware driver and CF-II cards, battery issues, MS Pro, running movies and TV episodes on MS, application software, using Sony download programs etc. I personaly have a 20 page file on technical notes that I use on a regular basis.

This shows that the Cliesource members who are NZ90 owners are getting the "MOST" out of their units despite its well documented short comings. Despite the shortcomings of the NZ90 it is so advanced that It can use long awaited Palm OS 6 (code name "Sahara") while third party vendors such as Vivid are developing software to capture MPEG-4 file using variable fps. Another company is developing software to allow the NZ90 to capture video via remote control. Another program called Lightspeed can overclock the NZ90 to over 300mhz to a maximum of 400mhz.

Given the tone of this thread you can easily guess that I enjoy using my NZ90 . Upshot 88 experience shows that with a lot of patience and effort an individual can get a lot out of a PDA especially one(among a number of Clie series) that may be out of stlye 6 months from now.


Cheers:)

[SprSaiyan8]

I'm very happy with mine.

[the_iceman]

Myself Personally.... I'm SUPER Pleased with my NZ90.

On a side note... I'm sure glad it doesn't have a phone in it.

Less battery time.....

Talk and surf? .... leads to problems. I, personally, would rather not have the 'voice' in my PDA. I love everything else my PDA has... and sure wish it had more. But I like my Phone Seperate. I would much rather be able to talk on my phone, and not have it 'tied' to my PDA.

People, well I'll just put myself into this category, are generally more 'careful' with their PDAs than their phones. I can't count the number of times I've tried to re-click my phone on my belt-clip ... and missed.. boom down to the ground. I use my cell phone heavily. Course I work for AT&T Wireless.... and we all use them heavily (3000+ minutes a month usually). I've gone through 5 phones over the last 3 years.

I would not like my PDA in my phone... because when my phone goes crashing down to the ground... I've lost not only my 'voice' communications... I've also lost my data. until a new one is sent... charged up... etc.

I've only heard (personally here at work) of one person over the last 3 years, who has dropped/destroyed their PDA. I can't count the number of people I've heard (from work and outside of work) who have dropped their cell phones.. and oblitereated 'em.

Another Point.......Many people love to switch phones often. New features.. new ring-tones... flashy-lighty things on it ... Now Cameras built into them... etc. Phones are so cheap.. .people replace 'em every year or so (talking more toward the younger generation). How does one talk on the phone... and use their palm without either a cord dangling from your ear ... or having to have a BT Headset?

I'd hate to be talking to someone ... and say ... let me get your number... they give me their number... and I have to say ... 'hang on for a sec'.... so I can take the phone away from my ear... access my addressbook in my pda... enter the information ... and finally put the phone back to my ear 1-1.5min later I hate wired ear-buds. I like to just talk on the phone... as it was more meant to be. I can talk on the phone.. and use my PDA at the same time without any issues. This is what I like. I'm one that care to look like I'm Brittany Spears/Garth Brooks/Janet Jackson...etc with a remote headset growing out of my ear. I think some people want to give the impression they are 'important' and 'need' something like this ... but for the most part .. it is just a gizmo/gadget.

Anyway... I didn't want to get too far off topic... but I did, as usual.


To each their own. So long as Sony keeps making non-phone PDAs I'll be happy. They can make Phone/pda combos... that is fine for those who want it... .me... I'll stick with a non-voice PDA :)

[PvV]

Upshot & Iceman...

Thanks for writing your wonderful short essays. Instead of writing another one, I can simply say "I agree completely!" and be done with it. The NZ90 is the best PDA I've ever owned. Others may disagree - that's okay. They can purchase different machines. I'm not giving up my PDA for quite some time - Sony (or any other manufacturer) will have to come up with quite the extraordinary unit to replace the NZ for me.

[Bryan Smith]

Well I will throw in my two cents worth:
i just spent 5 and a half weeks in New Zealand on the road (not a good reason my mum died) but boy am I glad I had the NZ.
The photos were great. I carried my NZ everywhere and pulled it out to take photos and it was so much better than lugging a PDA and seperate camera around.
No wireless in New Zealand and so no email but everything else went well. Yes the NZ is great and is great to travel with.
Off to Switzeraland and then Singapore with it in the next three weeks and so will have more great experiences with it.
Yep I will keep this for two years and wait for the next great jump-NZ 110????

[DavidGMaynard]

The only problem with my NZ90 has been the hinge, which has not stood up to 6weeks use without becoming loose and distorting. Sony insist that this is due to user misuse and will not repair under warranty. I am concerned that the weight of the screen may have contributed to the problem, and would welcome views if other users have had similar problems.

[Unregistered]

Yes it does seem to be becoming a complaint; I would call Sony again as this is not an isolated complaint. Mine is not as firm when I first got it but it is still fine and that is after 6 months of constant use.

[DavidGMaynard]

Thanks - I thought I was alone on this one!

[YTTAN]

What about that -> Be Honest: is there anybody who really is happy with his NX80 or NX73 or TG50?

[Schabrunkel]

I'm quite happy with my NZ90. I pair it with my digi cam and can immediately show people the pictures I've take of them in big size.
(Especially nice: take a picture in the Biergarten and send it to everyone you know who is at work at the moment. Your friends will love you for it!)

[Unregistered]

Take the price grumble out of the equation and add a GSM/GPRS CF card to the NZ and it is the most complete piece of electronics I have owned.

[eric2002]

best PDA I've ever owned!

[YTTAN]

Unless there is an improve on battery life with at least 64mb ram + 400mhz + higher resolution like 720x480 dpi + replace CF slot with 2 or 3 slot for MS/MS Pro, replace the camera with WIFI, I will not giveup my NZ.