The 50 post limit has ruined this site.

[exiii]

Now instead of having a small number of OT threads that continue inanely, the number of OT threads has doubled(?), tripled(?), and every thread is being hijacked by the inane. And personally I'm quite bored by it all.

Stated another way: good humor and OT discussion (when contained) is a good thing, but now that it is policed by quantity, the quality of every thread is suffering. People are getting out of hand. And I don't think it can be fixed overnight by lifting the limit.

Trends continue, and can only be modified slowly. And any trend modification here would require actual moderation - which is mostly nonexistant at ClieSource - so I see little hope for this site.

Sure, ClieSource will continue to grow unchecked. But it'll be populated by 12-year-olds.

Just my humble opinion. But I'll start a poll just for the inaneness of it.

[soybomb]

What 50 post limit? Please explain...

[Unregistered]

That limit was imposed in the Off-Topic forum.

[exiii]

Exactly.

And that's why the OT is now infesting the rest of the boards & On-topic threads.

Explain? ... look at any locked thread. Count the number of posts in each one.

[Unregistered]

even a little moderation could go a long way to making finding info easier and getting rid of the crap that takes up its own share of server space.

but effective moderation does not seem to be the norm here. they could take some lessons from some much larger/higher activity sites that keep their boards clean, helpful and easy to use.

[exiii]

I'd like to change this thread title from 'has ruined ...' to 'is ruining ...'. A small change perhaps, but it's a little more fair and not nearly as extreme. This site does still have much good info - you just need to strap into your hip-waders to find it.

Agreed, the moderators here are a bit slow to respond to anything. But at the other extreme is the old 'Brighthand' site, where Steve Bush would ban you for addressing him with a frowny face - we don't need that either. We need moderation with rules and real judgement, and moderators that aren't afraid to take action when it's justifiable.

One of my problems with the 50 post limit is that it hinders any sort of intelligent discussion and is more suited to the one-liners that are so prevalant here lately.

... and now some moron (feed the ego, baby) decides to attempt a revival of the UDT over multiple threads (and d@mn the limit), adding exponentially to the clutter here. But then, who's worse: the person who starts the nonsense, or the mod who let's it continue?

I don't know. But I don't like where this is going.

Unreg: Come on, let us know who you are. People are going to think I'm padding this thread with agreement.

[cbulock]

I can kind of see where the moderators are coming from. The reason the limit was imposed was because off-topic was draining the sites resources. But I think the limit should be much higher. Even 200-300 posts so at least some topics could be discussed without having to start new thread after new thread. This would also stop threads from getting out of control and too large. I like the off-topic forum and think it's a great place to really meet fellow ClieSource members and get to know more about them than just what model Clie they are using. But at the same time, I think it is important that the sites main focus, Clies, doesn't get pushed aside for off-topic discussion.

[sebring]

I personally appreciate the 50 post limit in OT. There is nothing to stop a new thread from being started to continue a discussion from a closed thread, but it is nice for those of us that venture into OT infrequently to usually only have, at most, 30-40 posts to read to catch up on the discussion. IMO, the old UDT was ridiculous. Who wants to wade through 20 pages of post just to determine what a particular post is refering to. Although there isn't a post limit on relevant topics, most threads seem to die in well under 50 posts anyway. I also don't believe all the OT discussions going on in clie related threads has anything to do with the 50 post limit.

[DigitalDeath]

I think what is ruining OT at CS is all the closed minded political topics that pop up daily. Not to mention all the flaming in said politcal threads. The true UDT was not the cause of the site problems. The cause was all the complaints about the UDT from those who did not understand. Scociety always tries to kill that which it does not understand.

[Unregistered]

"all the closed minded "

So true with most of this board, not just OT.

[Serotta]

Originally posted by DigitalDeath
...The true UDT was not the cause of the site problems...

But in actuality it was. The resources required to index all those posts brought down the server. I kept up with it for quite awhile, but toward the end trying to get to a particular page was painfully slow. Sorry DD, I know that was your "baby".

[Griff]

I think the 50 post limit is too limiting to make OT useful at all. I can understand the need to control threads and reclaim space as old topics, especially off topics, are no longer needed.

I'd propose a 250 post limit for the off-topic area. For the most part any discussion in that area stops getting responses around the 200 post mark or so.

I don't think it is logical or resonable for a forums bases system to be used as a daily blog viewed and updated by dozens of users. Foruming simply isn't meant to replace the chat systems that are out there and I don't think anyone should expect CS to keep threads that basically amount to a chat room.

That said, I think the UDT did serve a purpose by providing the ability to discuss many topics throughout the day without creating tons of threads, but all of the "hi I'm here" and "I'm going to bed" stuff was excessive.

I'm not sure I can say much about quality. I have seen a few threads hijacked, and that's never fun, but I don't think quality of posting has gone down.

I'd also agree that the site could use a bit more moderating. It almost seems as though no-one monitors the forums on a regular basis. I know I've seen a number of topics in General that should've been OT.

The real issue with CS though is clutter and speed. The front page NEEDS a dramatic overhaul to get it cleaner and quicker.

[Serotta]

I do see Yellow Rose here quite often, but others do seem to be around less then they used to be. I don't think anything is really different than it was before in the other forums though.

[Griff]

I'll also suggest they move this forum in line with the others. I really don't think to come down here and look through the forum and offer input.

[cbulock]

Originally posted by Griff
I'll also suggest they move this forum in line with the others. I really don't think to come down here and look through the forum and offer input.

True, I check this forum maybe once a month. Just happens that this was posted the same day I looked.

[DigitalDeath]

Originally posted by Serotta


But in actuality it was. The resources required to index all those posts brought down the server. I kept up with it for quite awhile, but toward the end trying to get to a particular page was painfully slow. Sorry DD, I know that was your "baby". First off I have not seen any speed improvement or increased stability since the UDT was moved. Also I never heard anything from management to the effect that the UDT was causing the problems or the crash. Granted the UDT made a great scapegoat for the problems though. Oh, and it wasn't my "baby," I just happened to be the one that restarted it after the crash.

[cbulock]

I don't think it was ever blamed for the crash by the mods here, but it was mentioned that threads from the Off-topic area were affecting the searches causing a lot of load on the servers.

[Roni]

Why didn't someone make so that the standard search only affected non-off-topic forums unless you chose otherwise?

[jedix]

I think CS has suffered since then, indirectly because of the post limit. I barely post here (or hang out here) anymore because a lot of people I talked to in OT left due to the post limit. What I mean is, I haven't left this site, but with the people I was chatting with leaving due to the 50 post limit, I really don't feel any reason to stay around. I guess many didn't leave, but are just posting less, like me. Its really a shame. I miss the old CS!

[Griff]

Yeah, it's a shame. It's starting to become clearer that the site is more an advertistment for global source than it is a community. It's a shame, I've recently started thinking about leaving CS and heading over to other sites for my news.

[Unregistered]

How about a daily post limit per posters esp with the ones who post the same comments about the same subject over and over on a near daily basis?? Those can't be helping the beleaguered search engine.

[cbulock]

Yea, a post limit will really benifit the site. If people aren't already leaving fast enough, this will get the rest of them to leave. Once most of the regulars are gone, I bet this site will be blazing fast.

[jedix]

Originally posted by cbulock
Yea, a post limit will really benifit the site. If people aren't already leaving fast enough, this will get the rest of them to leave. Once most of the regulars are gone, I bet this site will be blazing fast.

LOL!:D

[strider_mt2k]

I guess I came in late.
Since I've been coming here I've gotten lot of help, and had fun too.
What did I miss? Everything? -Again?? ;)

I respectfully abstain from voting due to newness.

[Eddy]

talk about OT posts, I've realized that CS pages are loading up much slower. :(
What's been up lately? :confused:

[Caffeine kid]

It was all Wnm's fault.

[asterisk]

Originally posted by Roni
Why didn't someone make so that the standard search only affected non-off-topic forums unless you chose otherwise?


under "advanced search" you can specify which forum you want to confine your search to, so that particular hurdle has already been taken care of