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stronggeek
07-10-2003, 09:13 PM
Stroke from home to battery on the status bar and your silkscreen will cyle to the next one on the list!

I still using okey so I needed a way to change the silkscreens and though I recall NX70's great tip for "Switching silkskins with one stroke"  http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16286&perpage=30&highlight=swipe&pagenumber=1

with this stroke you can cyle through all your views.

I know this works on the on the nx80, but I never tried it on my nx70. 

Also it may be documented somwhere else, even the manual(where is that thing anyway?).

I did a search, so please don't flame me. :)

leung
07-10-2003, 09:21 PM
this is old...

stronggeek
07-10-2003, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by leung
this is old...

Sorry leung.

Didn't find it my search.

Maybe new users cn benefit from it though.

OcellNuri
07-10-2003, 10:43 PM
If it's old, it's news to me...

Unfortunately, I can't get the old stroke to work on my NX70V right now... neither will this new stroke. I'll keep trying every now and then and see if I have any luck.

I know the old stroke works, because I had gotten it to work before.

Great find stronggeek!

stronggeek
07-10-2003, 10:54 PM
Thanks OcellNuri

I've never heard about it either, otherwise trying share.

You guys are always helping me!

avega
07-10-2003, 10:57 PM
I learned it last week, it's great. There are no old or new things as there are always new users, keep on posting, thanks for the tip!!

stronggeek
07-10-2003, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by avega
I learned it last week, it's great. There are no old or new things as there are always new users, keep on posting, thanks for the tip!!

So avega, you're doing this on your nx70 then?

If so glad to know it works on both!

Blazefire
07-10-2003, 11:04 PM
Ok, it works for me, and I think I may know why it doesn't work for others.

1. You have to have another silkscreen in your memory (ya I know, duh). And this doesn't mean another VG skin, (ie. a skin you'd change using Photoskin), but another silkscreen (ie. wondersilk, decuma, etc).

2. You have to change your silkscreen at least once. So when you reset your Clie, you have to go into the silkloader screen and change from the standard input to something else. Now the stroke will switch between the new silkscreen choice and the standard VG only.

3. The stroke has to be from the battery on the status skin on the very bottom, in between the silkloader button and the memory card icon, to the home button ON THE VG. Even if the VG area doesn't have a home icon (like Decuma), stroke to where the home icon would be on the standard VG area.

That's all I know based on trying different scenarios.

cbulock
07-10-2003, 11:24 PM
Blazefire, the method your referring to is the older method that is linked to in the first post and can only switch between two different plug-ins.
Has anyone got this newer method to work on an NX60/70?

stronggeek
07-10-2003, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by Blazefire
Ok, it works for me, and I think I may know why it doesn't work for others.

1. You have to have another silkscreen in your memory (ya I know, duh). And this doesn't mean another VG skin, (ie. a skin you'd change using Photoskin), but another silkscreen (ie. wondersilk, decuma, etc). This works withall my skins(including Decuma)

2. You have to change your silkscreen at least once. So when you reset your Clie, you have to go into the silkloader screen and change from the standard input to something else. Now the stroke will switch between the new silkscreen choice and the standard VG only. Mine works with no special steps!

3. The stroke has to be from the battery on the status skin on the very bottom, in between the silkloader button and the memory card icon, to the home button ON THE VG. Even if the VG area doesn't have a home icon (like Decuma), stroke to where the home icon would be on the standard VG area. The stroke you're reffering to is the one discovered in the link in the first post. Try Stroke the from home to battery on the status bar and your silkscreen will cyle to the next one on the list!


That's all I know based on trying different scenarios.

ometofu
07-10-2003, 11:28 PM
it actually works stroking any direction at the very bottom of the screen!!!

rob_squared
07-10-2003, 11:29 PM
I love you guys for this! Now I don't have to disable okey every time I want to use decuma!

PS: A stroke from the VG home key to the graffiti area acts like the back button.

stronggeek
07-10-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by cbulock
Blazefire, the method your referring to is the older 

Sorry about the crosspost cbulock.

Dude, you are quick

rob_squared
07-10-2003, 11:35 PM
I can't get this other one to work on my NX70.

stronggeek
07-10-2003, 11:42 PM
Originally posted by leung
this is old...

leung, since this is so old, would you kindly let these guys know how to use it on the (since it has to work) nx70.

I have the nx80 and would love to hear from other nx80 users as well, because I have a strange feeling this may be only nx80 activated, but I hope not.

Thanks

rob_squared
07-10-2003, 11:57 PM
So far it looks that way.

Srevets
07-11-2003, 12:15 AM
That is so cool! Thanks stronggeek! Perhaps leung states this is old because he discovered it himself but failed to share with the community? In any event, better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission! :) Most people in this forum are both understanding AND forgiving. :)

It took me a while to figure which home icon since I was dragging a horizontal line from the icon in the bottom left straight over to the battery icon. For those who are still stumped (as I was) drag your stylus from the battery icon on the bottom diagonally upwards (northwest) past the home icon on the VG.

Another tip, in case nobody's discovered it, is to use Grafitti Anywhere with Decuma enabled. I have mine configured so that if I press and hold the jog dial, I can write grafitti strokes anywhere except on the VG area. If "this is old...", I wasted two seconds of your time to read this... sorry.

Srevets
07-11-2003, 12:16 AM
Ooops forgot... I'm using an "old" NX70V :)

stronggeek
07-11-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by Srevets
That is so cool! Thanks stronggeek! Perhaps leung states this is old because he discovered it himself but failed to share with the community? In any event, better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission! :) Most people in this forum are both understanding AND forgiving. :) He may have jumpe the good thinking about the old swipe

It took me a while to figure which home icon since I was dragging a horizontal line from the icon in the bottom left straight over to the battery icon. Srevets, you did it right the fisrt time! :) This apparently doesn't work on the nx70's but hopefully owners of the nx70 who don't know about the other way will benefit from these posts.

Otherwise, both methods work on my nx80

For those who are still stumped (as I was) drag your stylus from the battery icon on the bottom diagonally upwards (northwest) past the home icon on the VG.

This is the way descibed in the link from the orignal post



Another tip, in case nobody's discovered it, is to use Grafitti Anywhere with Decuma enabled. I have mine configured so that if I press and hold the jog dial, I can write grafitti strokes anywhere except on the VG area. If "this is old...", I wasted two seconds of your time to read this... sorry.

I didn't know this...  Thanks



 

Eddy
07-11-2003, 01:25 AM
Stronggeek! Thanks for looking after me bro.. :D
you know I go out of town often so might miss some things here and there. Really appreciate it. :)

I've tried it on my NX70 (JP ver.) & it simply is impressive, being able to swap between the decuma & Graffiti 2 input[/].
I like the [b]decuma for shows, but when I really need to do some intense input, it's Graffiti2 for me personally.

I find this swapping shortcut very useful, especially during security login (because I use the Graffiti2 shortcut "text input" that looks like a "loop" followed by your assigined alphabet), I always have to set it as Graffit2 because I still can't use the same "Loop" shortcut on Decuma (perhaps it's a Japanese ver. not sure), so I've to stick with Graffiti2 with the "loop shortcut" to quickily enter my password. I can't imagine entering my password with decuma, surely everybody would be able to read what I'm typing in. LOL :D

But it works on the NX70, for me at least. Great finding strongeek! :D

I wouldn't consider this "Old News", to me it's new trick! :p

PS. I couldn't do the horizontal swipe between the "home & battery mini icon" nor the other way around. I was starting from the battery icon, then (with the complete VG displayed), swiped from the battery icon "northwest" pass & beyond the big home icon on the VG & got it working. Special thanks to Srevets
with the Northwest swipe method. :)

Thanks again for all your help, now I can show off with my decuma yet, use this magic swipe when I need Graffiti2 for the quick input of password everytime I've to turn on my CLIE.

stronggeek
07-11-2003, 01:35 AM
Thanks for the feedback Eddy and the rest of you guys!

I guess it's clear that you need the nx80 to do the "Horozontal Swipe" though.

Wish other nx80 users would post too.

fix.bornes
07-11-2003, 02:04 AM
ARRRGGHHHH !
I tried this tip : don't know why, but it just hard-rest my NX70V :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

I thought I'd let you know before some of you try it :(

Unregistered
07-11-2003, 02:05 AM
nice, i didn't know about this.

druss
07-11-2003, 04:18 AM
thanks stronggeek for I am rather new here and love all ALL tips and tricks, data in fact any info i can get, so yes please repeat if you can us new users are learning whatever we can. :) Dr

stronggeek
07-11-2003, 08:03 AM
Originally posted by fix.bornes
ARRRGGHHHH !
I tried this tip : don't know why, but it just hard-rest my NX70V :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(

I thought I'd let you know before some of you try it :(

Sorry, that NEVER happened to me. :(

Not even on my nx70 with the first discovered stroke.

You indeed have another problem if a swipe in any direction can cause a hard reset.

druss
07-11-2003, 11:43 AM
I found that if you dont do it on the status bar it will cause a reset, but if it is on the status bar it is pretty cool. dr

srodsimpson
07-11-2003, 12:24 PM
Pleas pardon my asking, but where do you get Graffiti 2 for the NX70?

...Rod

ccelada
07-11-2003, 12:55 PM
There's an app called Jot... that's Graffiti2

avega
07-11-2003, 02:22 PM
You can find JOT here: http://www.palmgear.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=software.showsoftware&sid=E7D472A8-99D3-4655-86B11268EB47B7AF&prodID=5865

leung
07-11-2003, 03:24 PM
sorry for that reply. I thought you meant swapping the vg input.

stronggeek
07-11-2003, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by leung
sorry for that reply. I thought you meant swapping the vg input.

No prob, I was a little mixed up also.

I thought everyone knew about the swipe from the battery to the home along the status bar and apparently as I metioned before the swipe from home to the battery along the status bar only works on nx80s.

Guess it doesn't matter, either direction works and I tried to dulpicate the hard reset and couldnt.

I use the "Horizontal Swipe" to cycle through the calc, date, schedule, decuma, clock and my own personal & matching vgs.

Just to clarify something though, you guys with the nx70's, you are able to cycle through and not just go back and forth between 2 vgs-correct.

Anyway, I'm glad have okey arrows back again.

Later

stronggeek
07-11-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by srodsimpson
Pleas pardon my asking, but where do you get Graffiti 2 for the NX70?

...Rod

srodsimpson, I use still use jot even on my nx 80.

I bought a while back.

graf 2 I beleive is just the barebones version of jot the standalone app.

I like the standalone jot better, so I had to intall it back on the palm anyway.

Thanks to Eddy and the gang (you know who you are) I got to try decuma earlier (like most of us) on the nx70-days before my nx80 purchase, but I'm still not sure about it yet.

clie_wannabe
07-11-2003, 08:11 PM
anyway, this works with my japanese nx80v...
thanks for the tip!!!

clie_wannabe
07-11-2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by clie_wannabe
anyway, this works with my japanese nx80v...
thanks for the tip!!!

now it would be easier for me to switch between graffiti (for latin characters), and decuma (for japanese characters)...

whew!!! and i thought id have no use for decuma (graffiti is better for latin), moreso, i really hate going through the silk plugin button and jog-dial to switch between the two...

now that is a tip worth putting to good use!!!:)

stronggeek
07-11-2003, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by clie_wannabe


now it would be easier for me to switch between graffiti (for latin characters), and decuma (for japanese characters)...

whew!!! and i thought id have no use for decuma (graffiti is better for latin), moreso, i really hate going through the silk plugin button and jog-dial to switch between the two...

now that is a tip worth putting to good use!!!:)

Cool, I think that Eddys doing the same thing!

I used it at work quite a few times to day.

Didn 't have to leave an app to swich vg silks and kept my okey.arrows active
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stronggeek
07-11-2003, 09:29 PM
clie_wannabe I know you have an nx80 and ometofu, I'm assuming you do&nbsp;because you can stroke both ways (You know what I mean) :) , Well,&nbsp;while I knew I&nbsp;could stroke the status bar both ways I also just&nbsp;realized that a swipe from right to left(at the battery or just about anywhere to the right of it to the home icon) cycles the vg skins backwards and a swipe to from left to right(from home to battery or anywhere to the right of it) cylcles the vg skins forward.*All taking place accross the status bar of course

Are you guys doing this too?

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Later&nbsp;All!

Gettin ready to get my party on!

n2ifp
07-11-2003, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Srevets
It took me a while to figure which home icon since I was dragging a horizontal line from the icon in the bottom left straight over to the battery icon. For those who are still stumped (as I was) drag your stylus from the battery icon on the bottom diagonally upwards (northwest) past the home icon on the VG.

Ah! Now that works! Thanks for clarifying it.

Different strokes for different folks :D!

cbulock
07-11-2003, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by stronggeek
Just to clarify something though, you guys with the nx70's, you are able to cycle through and not just go back and forth between 2 vgs-correct.

Anyway, I'm glad have okey arrows back again.

Later

Nope, we can only go back and forth between two skins. I use this to switch back and forth between the calc plug-in and Graffiti.

stronggeek
07-12-2003, 12:07 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by cbulock
[B]

Nope, we can only go back and forth between two skins. I use this to switch back and forth between the calc plug-in and Graffiti.

cbulock,&nbsp;I&nbsp;was hoping that was not the case.

Thanks for the feedback

&nbsp;

Larry,&nbsp;well spoken, well written!

"Different strokes for different folks <IMG alt="" src="http://www.cliesource.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border=0>!&nbsp;"

Eddy
07-12-2003, 01:26 AM
Originally posted by strongeek
Cool, I think that Eddys doing the same thing!
Originally posted by Larry (not Winward):p
Different strokes for different folks !:D
......Larry, well spoken, well written!
yep, using it very often now with the easy swipe, it works like wonders. Thanks! :)
& very well spoken indeed.... LOL :D

ccelada
07-12-2003, 01:58 AM
Do you guys think there could be a way to make the "horizontal stroke" possible on our old NX70's?... maybe there's one or two files that need to be taken out of NX80's ROM, and stored on NX70's RAM?... is there any chance... 'cause it sounds like a cool thing...

I use WonderSilk, Decuma and the "Standard Input"... with this i could use the three of them without having to use the little button on the status bar... maybe i could also add some extra plugins, like the calculator!!!

Jeremyf
07-12-2003, 11:56 AM
Hi,

I have an NX80 and the horizontal swipe works fine. My swipes cycle through Decuma, Grafitti 2, Grafitti, and some weird screen that has "Serv, IP, Conn, Gway, ESSID, PDNS, MAC, SDNS, Speed, Sent, Dur., Rcvd". Two questions:

1) I'm guessing this latter screen is for WIFI access for those who have a WIFI card?!

2) How do I add more screens and options to cycle through? I've never really experimented with the virtual silkscreen - how can I customize it more?

Jeremy

HaLo
07-19-2003, 07:26 PM
Really cool tip, I'm putting it to good use right away. Thanks. The fun nerver stops!

Eddy
07-20-2003, 06:43 AM
yeah, new findings everyday! :D

ssulux
07-20-2003, 06:53 AM
cool ... ha ha ha ...
it works for me
thanks stronggeek

Joel
07-20-2003, 07:49 AM
Thanks for this tip! In an NX70, I've discovered something though, any stroke from the status bar area (to the right of the battery icon) going diagonally upwards to the left cycles the different silk plug-ins! It doesn't have to be from the battery icon to the home button in the VG.

Also, from anywhere in the status area, a stroke going diagonally upwards to the right brings up the shortcut bar.

I hope this isn't old already ;)

stronggeek
07-20-2003, 05:00 PM
Originally posted by ssulux
cool ... ha ha ha ...
it works for me
thanks stronggeek Anytime ssulux. Some of the others have listed more tips (some that are documented and some that are not) over at : http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=20169&amp;highlight=nx80

Originally posted by Joel

I hope this isn't old already ;) &nbsp; I don't think it is. I sure wasn't aware of tthese when I had my nx70, but even if it is, some&nbsp;may not have know about them and&nbsp;others may have forgotten about them. Great find as far as I'm concerned!

Enceladus
07-20-2003, 06:00 PM
Works good on mine. It's nice being able to switch between Decuma and my Audioplayer wondersilk VG so quickly.:)

Thanks for the tip. :D

LockSoft
09-12-2003, 11:30 AM
Great, thanks Stronggeek! :)

Dropzone
09-12-2003, 11:41 AM
You can find more info when you click on INFO at the Silk Plug iN

Reggie
09-12-2003, 11:44 AM
Here's ad addition, if you swipe from the battery back to home, it cycles in reverse. :)

Oh btw, you don't have to start at the home icon. just make a long stroke going to the right or to the left. :D

stronggeek
09-12-2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by LockSoft
Great, thanks Stronggeek! :)

Anytime LockSoft.

As you can see some have found some some documented info on this, espcially now that it's been out a while.

I normally don't read manuals unless I definitely have to, but I'm not the only one. :)

Obviously there's a lot to cover with the NX series!

And&nbsp;realize I'll&nbsp;never know it all. :(

But that's why we have CS.

I've had many share info with&nbsp;me (documented&nbsp;and not documented) and&nbsp;I very much appreciate it.For instance I just found out from n2ifp(Larry) that 2 files that I needed, okay wanted :)&nbsp;(NetMon &amp; SilkLauncher) were already on my inst. cd.

Thanks to all of you who contribute.

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