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karasu
01-28-2003, 12:40 AM
Well, that's the only thing I can figure out. It worked great earlier today (the AIM). I installed the NX updates and then went to run AIM on the NX and BAM!! Fatal alert.

For the coders out there here is the error:

DataMgr.c,Line:9524, Index out of range

Only a full hard reset will clear it. No evidence at this point of other programs being affected. Will update if I find more.

n2ifp
01-28-2003, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by karasu
Well, that's the only thing I can figure out. It worked great earlier today (the AIM). I installed the NX updates and then went to run AIM on the NX and BAM!! Fatal alert.

For the coders out there here is the error:

DataMgr.c,Line:9524, Index out of range

Only a full hard reset will clear it. No evidence at this point of other programs being affected. Will update if I find more.

So far no problem for me!

pixelpainter
01-28-2003, 06:31 AM
What are the updates for?

Should I bother?

n2ifp
01-28-2003, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by pixelpainter
What are the updates for?

Should I bother?

Look at this thread for update explaination

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1850

CosmicBlend
01-28-2003, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by karasu
Well, that's the only thing I can figure out. It worked great earlier today (the AIM). I installed the NX updates and then went to run AIM on the NX and BAM!! Fatal alert.

For the coders out there here is the error:

DataMgr.c,Line:9524, Index out of range

Only a full hard reset will clear it. No evidence at this point of other programs being affected. Will update if I find more.

I dont think the update caused that, because ive seen that EXACT error before with mine.. it has to do with something with the CF card and sometimes it "lags" the clie and if you do a soft reset it will cause that error.

karasu
01-28-2003, 10:01 AM
Originally posted by CosmicBlend


I dont think the update caused that, because ive seen that EXACT error before with mine.. it has to do with something with the CF card and sometimes it "lags" the clie and if you do a soft reset it will cause that error.

I would think so as well except I could duplicate the problem. I performed a hard reset, deleted the updates and reloaded everything else. AIM works. loaded the updated and get the aformentioned error. Delete aim, restore. No other items have a problem. I've tested everything else, including programs that use the CF and no other produce it. AIM is the only one and it doesn't produce it w/o the update. I'm not going to play with it anymore since it takes 15 minutes to resotore each time(my address book is friggin huge). I'm using the original version of AIM (from the UK site) so maybe if there is an updated version I'll give it a shot. It just appears that the update has changed one of the resources that AIM addresses and creates the fault.

davy19
01-28-2003, 11:07 AM
I could never get AIM to work with at all on my NX70, before installing the update

Everytime I tried it, I had to ado a hard reset, so gave up after a while.

Wonder if it will work after the update..who knows

contempt
01-28-2003, 11:17 AM
Now I'm hesitating on this update. Anyone else experience this AIM bug after the update? My AIM works perfectly right now (prior to update) and I've gone through so many system restores because of the CF buggin' out.

outie
01-28-2003, 01:30 PM
Actually you don't need to perform a hard reset at all.

1.) Do a safe mode soft reset (reset + "up" button)
2.) You won't see the virtual graffiti screen in safe mode, so what you need to do is (since u are in Prefs) go to Buttons, and assign one of your hard buttons to "application", which is the default launcher.
3.) Then run CLIE FILES and delete all the AIM files, including the *session file. do a soft reset and ur clie is healed w/o hard reset.

If you want AIM to work again, all you have to do is delete the file "saved preferences" but you'll probably lose all your reg codes and obviously preferences of your softwares. So make sure you have a way to retrieve those before doing this.

I tried this and it worked, it happened to me when I closed AIM before logging off properly. Looks like aim some how corrupted the saved preferences file and caused the error after every reset.

Good luck.

karasu
01-28-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by outie
Actually you don't need to perform a hard reset at all.

1.) Do a safe mode soft reset (reset + "up" button)
2.) You won't see the virtual graffiti screen in safe mode, so what you need to do is (since u are in Prefs) go to Buttons, and assign one of your hard buttons to "application", which is the default launcher.
3.) Then run CLIE FILES and delete all the AIM files, including the *session file. do a soft reset and ur clie is healed w/o hard reset.

If you want AIM to work again, all you have to do is delete the file "saved preferences" but you'll probably lose all your reg codes and obviously preferences of your softwares. So make sure you have a way to retrieve those before doing this.

I tried this and it worked, it happened to me when I closed AIM before logging off properly. Looks like aim some how corrupted the saved preferences file and caused the error after every reset.

Good luck.

An excellent piece of information. I doubt that I will bother with AIM anymore until I see something of an upgrade to prevent it from reoccuring.

helmutk
01-29-2003, 08:38 AM
Mini tip...
When doing a soft reset you loose the Virtual Graffiti.
You can either re-define a hardware button for the default application launcher, as mentioned in an earlier post, or you can press Ctrl - H on the keyboard to go to the default launcher.

n2ifp
01-29-2003, 08:49 AM
Originally posted by contempt
Now I'm hesitating on this update. Anyone else experience this AIM bug after the update? My AIM works perfectly right now (prior to update) and I've gone through so many system restores because of the CF buggin' out.

AIM still works perfectly after the upgrade!!! In fact everything does, amazing:D!

Now the upgrade may cause an earthquake, or the cat to lose it's teeth, your car to have a flat, as one user said it did. Other than that, my NX still runs like my Seiko watch, takes a lickin and keeps on tickin!

The safe mode procedure is also know as a warm reset.

FrankG
06-18-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by outie
Actually you don't need to perform a hard reset at all.
<snip>
3.) Then run CLIE FILES and delete all the AIM files, including the *session file. do a soft reset and ur clie is healed w/o hard reset.

If you want AIM to work again, all you have to do is delete the file "saved preferences" but you'll probably lose all your reg codes and obviously preferences of your softwares. So make sure you have a way to retrieve those before doing this.
<snip>


Thank you! AIM started acting up with this fatal alert last night for no reason I could figure -- other than the logoff one mentioned here. In a valiant attempt to search before posting, I found my answer! It worked.

Only change I'd make is to not delete the entire prefs file. A prefs edit app like systool lets me delete only the AIM related pref entries and that fixed the problem -- along with deleting AIM related DBs.

Afterwards, I figured I could have dragged the AIM icon to LauncherX's trash icon and selected to delete DBs, prefs, but not the application itself. I bet that would have worked as well.

Thanks,
Frank

Alistar
06-18-2003, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by helmutk
Mini tip...
When doing a soft reset you loose the Virtual Graffiti.
You can either re-define a hardware button for the default application launcher, as mentioned in an earlier post, or you can press Ctrl - H on the keyboard to go to the default launcher.

Actually the grafitti area is still technically there, you jsut can't see anything.
So you could also tap the area where the home button normally is and it will take you to your default launcher. Menu and Calc also work.

n2ifp
06-18-2003, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Alistar


Actually the grafitti area is still technically there, you jsut can't see anything.
So you could also tap the area where the home button normally is and it will take you to your default launcher. Menu and Calc also work.

Originally posted by helmutk
<B>Mini tip...
When doing a soft reset you loose the Virtual Graffiti.
You can either re-define a hardware button for the default application launcher, as mentioned in an earlier post, or you can press Ctrl - H on the keyboard to go to the default launcher. </B>

Most of us know it as a warm reset. A soft reset is when you stick the pin in the rear of the Clie.

Six months later and AIM 1.1 still works with all the updates :)

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