1src Forums - New Powerrun 1.2 Allows Netfront to run on MS

bucalo9

01-28-2003, 07:34 AM

Originally posted by n0m0n
"Turn your cacheoff and reset".

How, were do you find this???
In PowerRun, Netfront, the NX???
Sorry for stupid question...

No stupid questions, just stupid answers....

In Netfront, go to options/Netfront settings/cache:disable. Also take a look at the other 3-pages of options there while your at it. There may be some features you can take advantage of too.

I found the cache really doesn't help much unless your visiting static pages over and over.:)

bucalo9

01-28-2003, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by n2ifp

Turn the cache off in NetFront.

I still think NetFront stinks:D!

I know your opinion, dude. And I respect it very much.:)

I'm lookin' forward to a "better" netfront soon.

bucalo9

01-28-2003, 07:40 AM

Originally posted by sputnik
It copies really fast...faster than I thought it would...I am now free 4 megs instead of 2 :)

I tried it, and it works without being slower too. What you loose is the ability in ClieMail to have mail with links/urls that when chosen/hit will start Netfront and go to that site. Other than that, if you use Powerrun for other apps, it makes allot of sense to use, by swopping apps in and out of RAM.

I removed the demo the day before last because it wouldn't work with Word to Go. I will try with this version and see if it improves.

NakMan

01-28-2003, 10:17 AM

Man, that is an excellent program.

I tried it on a few apps and it works great.

This is very good for apps that have a lot of databases associated with them, like NetFront, ClieMail, Bump Attack, Planetarium, etc. since those databases are also stored on flash.

I registered it about ten minutes after trying it and seeing how well it worked.

NakMan

bucalo9

01-28-2003, 10:25 AM

Anyone have success with Documents to Go and DatavizMail? Can you get all the apps onto the stick and have it all sync OK?

contempt

01-28-2003, 11:12 AM

This new version is a godsend!!! Before you have any hesitations, I've been bummed that PiDirect wasn't coming to OS5. Now, I really don't care.

Netfront is stored on MS, then copied to RAM and run. The whole process takes less than 3 seconds.

I also placed ZagatToGo with five city databases (approx 2megs) and it takes 6 seconds to launch. BumpAttackPinball with three game boards (585k) takes 2 seconds to launch. I'll live with that to get 4.5 megs free in RAM!!!

No Bugs yet.

contempt

01-28-2003, 11:14 AM

I'm not sure of DocsToGo, but the only app I use that syncs is TinySheet. That can not be used with PowerRun nor can it be moved to MS or else it won't sync. I know some apps only look for the database files to sync. You might have to play around with it.

Originally posted by bucalo9
Anyone have success with Documents to Go and DatavizMail? Can you get all the apps onto the stick and have it all sync OK?

pixelated

01-28-2003, 12:31 PM

Documents to GO still doesnt work with PowerRun-----what i found is that you can send word to go, and all the others to /Launcher directory in the MS and just keep Documents in Ram and it works for me that way

LeggNet

01-28-2003, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by pixelated
What i found is that you can send word to go, and all the others to /Launcher directory in the MS and just keep Documents in Ram and it works for me that way Hey....that works! Thanks for the tip.

I had tried in the past putting Word & Sheet ToGO on the stick along with my docs and upon synching it would place a copy of both back in RAM.... but with your tip of placing JUST the WTG & STG apps on the stick and leaving the docs, fonts etc. in RAM it works. This freed up about a meg for me.

Cheers, Rich

pixelated

01-28-2003, 01:20 PM

you welcome~~

nike33

01-28-2003, 01:27 PM

Hi pixelated

Your great find allowed me to give Netfront a second chance.

Netfront does not work very well, but at least its no longer tying up 2222222222222555555555555%%%%%%%%%% (me stuttering this unbelievable amount) of USABLE NX Memory!

Thanks!

cyclone

01-28-2003, 01:29 PM

Has anyone tried running Netfront from MS using Zlauncher?

bucalo9

01-28-2003, 02:14 PM

Originally posted by pixelated
Documents to GO still doesnt work with PowerRun-----what i found is that you can send word to go, and all the others to /Launcher directory in the MS and just keep Documents in Ram and it works for me that way

Thanks for feedback-that's what I'm getting. I was thinking maybe there is a combo that can work, because you can choose to put the files on the stick using the conduit, and DTG also lets you put "some" of the programs on the stick. Maybe one of these combos and PowerRun would make it work. Nope.

I really want to get Dataviz Mail on the stick and all the attachments. I sync my Notes mail, and get quite a big bag of mail/attachments.:rolleyes:

cepler

01-28-2003, 04:07 PM

NetFront+All it's files takes about 5 seconds to load, 2 seconds to unload.

n0m0n

01-28-2003, 10:27 PM

Actually if I may;
I have WordView+ on my MS in the launch folder.
SheetToGo also on the MS in the launch folder.
DocToGo I have moved via PowerRun.
Through my Windows interface, I always choose for my documents to sync over to a
DXTG folder in the Programs directory on my MS...
All works, and I have SO MUCH more room on my ram..
Just make sure that you have enough ram to move all back (temp) when you use it...

clieShadow

01-28-2003, 11:14 PM

btw, could anyone verify my line of thinking... and correct me on some points...

A) PowerRun works by first copying an app in MS into RAM then running it from thre... upon exit, PowerRun deletes that app from RAM... right?

B) you say that PowerRun save you, say 2MB of RAM; because it allows you to move NetFront to the MS, and you'd have 2MB free for other uses... right?

but what happens if you dont have 2MB free on RAM, then how could PowerRun work with NetFront? in effect, that 2MB you free by moving NetFront to MS, would still be UNUSABLE because you need it to be FREE whenever youd like to use NetFront... right?

pixelated

01-28-2003, 11:17 PM

clieshadow----the point is that after using powerrun you will have more than 2MB of ram available-----because you will move more programs from ram to MS----almost all of the ones can be moved-

clieShadow

01-28-2003, 11:33 PM

however, that available RAM is still unsuable right? or it is? as in though it may be AVAILABLE, it is still UNUSABLE... what good is that then?

i just cant see the point, and that is why i posted the above reply, re: btw, could anyone verify my line of thinking... and correct me on some points... ... in a sense, im waiting for someone to do some knocking on my stubborn head for me to get the idea...

UI018397

01-28-2003, 11:42 PM

Powerrun lets you time-multiplex that "unusable" 2MB between different applications at run time.

BClie2k

01-28-2003, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by clieShadow
however, that available RAM is still unsuable right? or it is? as in though it may be AVAILABLE, it is still UNUSABLE... what good is that then?

i just cant see the point, and that is why i posted the above reply, re: btw, could anyone verify my line of thinking... and correct me on some points... ... in a sense, im waiting for someone to do some knocking on my stubborn head for me to get the idea...

I'll give you a real life example. I have a whole banch of flash files in my MS. However, they require a lot of RAM space to run. More than 2MB to run. Now, that NetFront is in the MS I can run this applications without a problem.

Got it? If not then don't use PowerRun and delete NetFront.

You will know it when you need it. In the mean time do your own thing.

Al

bucalo9

01-29-2003, 03:31 AM

Originally posted by n0m0n
Actually if I may;
I have WordView+ on my MS in the launch folder.
SheetToGo also on the MS in the launch folder.
DocToGo I have moved via PowerRun.
Through my Windows interface, I always choose for my documents to sync over to a
DXTG folder in the Programs directory on my MS...
All works, and I have SO MUCH more room on my ram..
Just make sure that you have enough ram to move all back (temp) when you use it...

Thanks! How about others in suite? Pics, Slideshow.....:)

birick

01-29-2003, 04:12 AM

I have the whole docs to go suite loaded to MS via PowerRun, and I haven't had a problem with it. I'm not a heavy user, but the 5-6 docs a week that I load sync just fine.

In fact, I have everything on my NX70 except for Zlauncher and Datebk5 running from MS with PowerRun, Datebk worked except for the alarm function, so if you don't need alarms...

n0m0n

01-29-2003, 04:42 AM

clieShadow:
To answer your question, If you have 3 programs that use up 2 meg of memory each
just by being there, and you move it onto the card well then you have 6 meg that you
have freed up.
Now I don't know about you but I have only been able to use one program at a time
on my NX so you really only need in this case 2 meg free foor the copying purposes
for PowerRun...
Hence you still have 4 meg that you still have freed up.
You will always have to have enough room of RAM so that the largest program
stored via PowerRun can be copied over, but that's it.
Calc the largest program size, and use the rest for new app's / programs.

quantum

01-29-2003, 06:35 AM

The software certainly works as advertised. However after i installed it, i am unable to hotsync without getting a fatal error at some point of time during the sync. I stop getting these errors after i remove powerRun. Does anyone else have this problem?

quantum

01-29-2003, 08:31 AM

Looks like i solved my own problem. After 3 hours of trouble shooting, i finally removed the program in conflict. The program was Jot. And it was the reason for quite a number of other unstablities. Might as well live without it. My silk keyboard wasn't working when i had Jot anyway. Luckily it was still a trial and i haven't purchased it yet. ;)

n0m0n

01-29-2003, 09:25 AM

quantum:
Well you beat me to my response...
I seem to remember seeing a thread about this.
Someone reported that they found that Jot did have a conflict with PowerRun..

pixelated

01-29-2003, 10:17 AM

yes Jot does conflict with alot of programs Zlauncher, Powerrun etc

garyme

01-29-2003, 10:40 AM

Has anyone compared Powerrun 1.2 with MemHack?

I've used MemHack for a couple of weeks now and it seems to do the same thing. I've moved a lot of applications over to the MS and it seems to work the same way.

I'd hate to mess around with getting rid of MemHack and starting over with Powerrun unless there is a significant reason to do so.

n0m0n

01-29-2003, 11:08 AM

Yes, they are different...
MemHack is where you store db's and have the app's in RAM...
It’s like MSMount but it has a problem with larger db's...
PowerRun moves app.’s as well as all associated db's to the card where there is a folder created with its name.
When you tap on the shortcut to the app (PowerRun creates the shortcut) all parts are moved back to the RAM so PowerRun will allow you to write or change the contents in the db's...
MemHack is read only...
Hope this helps

zeke87

01-29-2003, 02:26 PM

Comment. I notice with PowerRun, when I delete the shortcuts. It leaves a couple of stubs. No problem, cause I have UnistallHack which detects them. I'm guessing they're preferences for those apps that are not fully written out to card??

zeke87

01-29-2003, 02:56 PM

Oh, something else. I did what someone had suggested and moved sheet to go to the palm launcher folder, and run DocsToGo through power run. I created a spreadsheet, and when I tapped done after it launched sheettogo, powerrun seemed to get into an infinite loop of loading and unloading

bucalo9

01-29-2003, 03:33 PM

I found that some of the programs you move to the stick using PowerRun, get reinstalled to RAM after you hotsync. This caused the programs to crash. I don't know if the DTG onduit is doing it or if its the Palm backup software. I haven't checked what happens with Dataviz Mail yet.

fnm

01-30-2003, 07:16 AM

Has anyone moved Avantgo and SmartList (ThinkDB) using PowerRun? I got about 3mb in ThinkDB + 1mb in Avantgo which equal to 4mb of free space if PR works. : )

n0m0n

01-30-2003, 08:02 AM

AvantGo will not sync if it is moved via PowerRun....
Nothing is there to activate when syncing of AvantGo if its on the MS.

AndyMillson

01-30-2003, 08:06 AM

I run the following apps from my MS and have 9.6 Mb free ram

Agendus
Mobipocket Reader
All the Quick Office Pro apps and data files (Quick office save to the MS 8-)
MegaCalc
MegaHolidays
MS Dict and all the datafiles
SplashID
Blazer
WebProV
Mergic Ping
AcidImage and keep all the images on the MS as well
ComicGuru and any comisI might have
f/Calc - Photographic Utility
Focus+ - Photographic Utilitiy
Bejeweled
Billiards
Dragonfire
Frobnitz - Gotta love those old infocom games 8-)
Insanquarium
MGammon
Sol Free
Zap2016

And they all appear to work perfectly

For those of you running Docs to Go and having problems, check out QuickOffice (http://www.cesinc.com/quickoffice/) It is imho a much better product that DTG and works with the MS a lot better

Andy

n0m0n

01-30-2003, 08:19 AM

AndyMillson:

Via PowerRun, or in the MS /Palm/Launcher folder?

NakMan

01-30-2003, 09:18 AM

bucalo9,

The programs that are getting reinstalled are probably sitting in your Backup directory.

I made a batch file that moves all files out of there into another directory for safe keeping. I then set all the backup bits with SuperUtility (there are many utilities to do this) and HotSync.

This way, nothing gets reinstalled and everything gets backed up.

The HotSync takes longer, but I'd rather have that than any data loss or programs reappearing.

NakMan

vansouza

01-30-2003, 09:40 AM

The NX all by itself allows Docs to Go to be moved to the sick, that is the sheet and doc programs but the Documents file must stay in the NX and not on the stick. So does this program allow the Documents file to be move to the stick as well. That would be great... BUT... Brayder is due to publish the new OS5 JackFlash today or tomorrow... I like that better...

n0m0n

01-30-2003, 09:52 AM

Yes I have DocToGo moved over to the MS via PowerRun...
WordView+ and SheetsToGo are in the MS Launcher folder...
The documents are on the MS also in the /Palm/programs/DXTG folder...
Remember that when you tap the shortcut PowerRun moves DocToGo back onto the RAM...
So simply put, PowerRun just stores programs, db’s whatever is associated with the app on the MS until needed...

eichin

01-30-2003, 09:54 AM

Can anyone explain the difference? or rather, why do we need powerrun, given that things run out of the launcher folder on the stick? (My big complaint about the latter is there's one monster category, "stuff on the stick"...)

n0m0n

01-30-2003, 09:57 AM

vansouza:

Is this according to them via phone / emails, or via there webpage...
It has said that an OS5 version would be available in January for over a month...
I kind a doubt it for this month...
There would more chat about it if it really was ready...
Also they have not come out with a beta 1 version yet…

eichin

01-30-2003, 10:00 AM

(oh, does it move a whole *set* of files, the prc and the pdbs, together? rather than just the prc? that might be helpful for some apps, like the MBTA app (or even Metro) that are small apps with lots of data...

AndyMillson

01-30-2003, 10:06 AM

Apps in /Launcher Directory

MegaCalc
MegaHolidays
MSDict
Bejewelled
Billiards
MGammon
Zap2016

And these ar eonly there as they were installed before I installed PowerRun. I may attempt to move them using Powerrun at some point

The difference between PowerRun and moving to the /launcher directory is that PowerRun creates its own directories for each application

/Palm/Programs/PowerRun/<APP_Name>

And all files for that app are installed there. so that everything is a lot more tidy than the /launcher option

Andy

contempt

01-30-2003, 10:24 AM

the reason being is for certain apps whose databases need to reside in RAM, not on the MS. a good example is BumpAttackPinball whose boards need to be in RAM but the app itself could be in ms/launcher. also, ZagatToGo and DocsToGo. and most importantly, for those braving to use it NetFront.

If you just use the MS/Launcher technique for these apps, you'll still be left with about 400k or more left in RAM. this way it only copies those files back into RAM when you're ready to use it. It's quite practical.

Originally posted by eichin
Can anyone explain the difference? or rather, why do we need powerrun, given that things run out of the launcher folder on the stick? (My big complaint about the latter is there's one monster category, "stuff on the stick"...)

bucalo9

01-30-2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by NakMan
bucalo9,

The programs that are getting reinstalled are probably sitting in your Backup directory.

I made a batch file that moves all files out of there into another directory for safe keeping. I then set all the backup bits with SuperUtility (there are many utilities to do this) and HotSync.

This way, nothing gets reinstalled and everything gets backed up.

The HotSync takes longer, but I'd rather have that than any data loss or programs reappearing.

NakMan

You are a crafty dude. I sometimes clean that folder after deleting prc and conduits, for fear of them re-appearing. On the other hand, I've lost programs and have appreciated being able to find them stored in the backup folder. What's the diff between that folder and the archive folder?

bucalo9

01-30-2003, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by vansouza
The NX all by itself allows Docs to Go to be moved to the sick, that is the sheet and doc programs but the Documents file must stay in the NX and not on the stick. So does this program allow the Documents file to be move to the stick as well. That would be great... BUT... Brayder is due to publish the new OS5 JackFlash today or tomorrow... I like that better...

Yeah, DTG lets you move some of the progs to stick, but you definately can determine the destination of files using the conduit menus.

This way, allot of the RAM required to use the suite can be pushed to the stick. PowerRun can get all of it to stick, apparently for some. I tried but was getting crashes with Word+

nmincone

01-30-2003, 01:55 PM

clieshadow you have the point that I shared when investigating this issue. The ideal here is that you can almost pretend there is no 11MB limit in the Clie because your in essence moving most of your apps to a MS, which can be as large as say 128MB. This app miraculously allows apps that normall would not run from MS to run by transfering them to RAM. So, unless you run into a Palm app larger than 11MB the theory here is that you are now the owner of a Palm with 128MB of internal memory.

bucalo9

01-30-2003, 02:25 PM

The setup is similar to the way PCs used to be before Windows. Think of it as having 11mb of RAM to run programs which are stored and loaded from a 128mb hard drive. I'm dating myself, but older versions of DOS would only run programs that would fit within the amount of RAM available-and no multitasking was possible.

n0m0n

01-30-2003, 02:32 PM

I purchased the matte, and chrome stylus from innopoket .
I like the weight, feel and look.
BUT I find that the stylus slides up tight, and I am worried that if I ever return to the Sony stock one the shaft will be slightly enlarged...
Does anyone else have this or feel concerned???

fnm

01-30-2003, 02:39 PM

Jeff, in what way your comment is related to this subject... I was wondering. ; )

n0m0n

01-30-2003, 02:57 PM

Oooppppp I cut and pasted to the wrong thread...
Sorry All

estabayl

01-31-2003, 02:29 AM

This is a great program. I have moved both Net Front and Web Pro to memory stick. The problem is I use my Bluetooth stick and Sony Ericsson T68i via GPRS for net access. You cannot run a web browser in memory stick and use Bluetooth at the same time !

estabayl

01-31-2003, 02:45 AM

I tried saving quick office to mem stick but it keep crashing? Help!!!

n2ifp

01-31-2003, 02:52 AM

Originally posted by n0m0n
I purchased the matte, and chrome stylus from innopoket .
I like the weight, feel and look.
BUT I find that the stylus slides up tight, and I am worried that if I ever return to the Sony stock one the shaft will be slightly enlarged...
Does anyone else have this or feel concerned???

After being shafted by Sony, you have nothing to worry about!

sputnik

01-31-2003, 01:43 PM

can you switch the memory stick with the blue tooth after you load Netfront?

AndyMillson

01-31-2003, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by estabayl
I tried saving quick office to mem stick but it keep crashing? Help!!!

Did you use PowerRun or just drag everything to the /pal/launcher directory of the MS?

I have used PowerRun and QuickOffice with great success and would highly recommend this program to anyone!

Andy

estabayl

02-01-2003, 02:49 AM

I was able to switch memory sticks after loading Net front so that once loaded I could bluetooth to my cell phone.When finished, I switched back to return Net Front to memory stick. Thanks

Re Power Run and Quick Office I did use Power Run to transfer Quickchart ,Quickword,Quicksheet and Fontbucket but then when I choose Quickword via Launcher X I crash "Fatal Alert Memory manager c Line 3598 invalid handle". Help !

Mr P

02-01-2003, 06:24 AM

Maybe I am being stupid or something but what does Powerrun do that ZLauncher can't, so far I have nearly all my apps running from MS using Zlauncher including Docs To Go.

palmsolo

02-01-2003, 07:26 AM

estabayl,

I get the same fatal error reset with QuickWord and SilverScreen. If I turn off SilverScreen, launching QuickWord from the MS works fine. There is definitely a bug with QuickWord, 3rd party launchers, and PowerRun. I'll email the PowerRun developer.

palmsolo

02-07-2003, 11:20 PM

After buying the software I found I was able to move all my Quickoffice apps to my MS with no problems. PowerRun is awesome!! I now have over 5MB free and a ton of programs that I use.

ClieNut

02-08-2003, 12:00 AM

I'm still interested to know the answer to Mr. P's question. Can Zlauncher do the same thing as PowerRun?

matt7777

02-17-2003, 12:31 AM

NoMoN and Bucalo9

I can follow you for putting word and sheet in /launcher directory.
But then what did you do with Documents or docs to go? Mine on Clie file says it is locked and so is word to go fonts.

And how did you get all the data files to go into DXTG on the stick and get sync'ed from there? I didn't see anything in the PC software for Docs to go.

Also - what about other things like ebooks/manuals, things ending in DB, skins, backgrounds, icons? I tried to put an ebook on the stick, but tealdoc couldn't see it.

Needless to say, I want to try and get as much on the MS as possible.
Thanks
Matt

mashoutposse

02-17-2003, 07:47 AM

Use PowerRUN -- it automatically carries all related DBs to the MS. You cannot move backgrounds and skins to the stick as they are active. You CAN move them temporarily and move them back if you're not using them right now (makes sense).

bucalo9

02-17-2003, 09:33 AM

Some programs can use the stick effectively without the use of a prog like PowerRun. DTG's conduit allows you to install some DTG progs to stick, and gives you control to sync any file to either ram or MS. Those DTG progs that weren't intended to go to MS, show up with the lock icon. However, PowerRun can still move them. Which move to MS and work effectively is what some here are testing.

I'm still confused as to which to move using the conduit, and which to use PowerRun(since my last post, my demo expired and I haven't experimented more). But the posts reveal some people able to move everything to MS, and some moving everything but keeping the DTG main prog in ram.

Other progs without MS support probably need to be in the same folder as the db file, after moving using PowerRun. Some db files may need to stay in ram though.

mashoutposse

02-17-2003, 09:58 AM

Docs-To-Go has been a special case for me. Docs-To-Go works best when only Word To Go, Slideshow To Go, and Sheets To Go are loaded on the MS (Palm/Launcher). Leave the main program in RAM; I have found that moving it to the stick with either method makes the program unstable, requiring the user to enter and exit the program in a very specific manner.

As far as other programs are concerned, here's what I've got loaded on the MS via PowerRUN (Docs To Go is the ONLY app that I have loaded through Palm/Launcher):

* = syncing issues

300 Bowl
4.0 Student
AcidImage
Acid Solitaire
Agendus 6
AOL Instant Messenger
Ancient Red
Bang!
Bebop
Bejeweled!
Bible Reader
Billiards
Handspring Blazer
Bonsai
Kickoo's Breakout
Bubble Trouble
Bump Attack Pinball
Car Master
Chain Reaction
ChessMaster
ChromaGames
CLIE Demo
CLIE Mail
Columns
Crosswords
Dartz
DataViewer
DayNotez*
Defender 2
Dragonfire
Dynomite
F1 Sprint
FileZ
Hexxagon
Insaniquarium
iSilo
Kinoma
LAN Status
Launcher X
Lemonade Tycoon
M. Desailly Pro Soccer
MegaBowling
MegaClock
MegaLauncher 4
MicroRace
Ultrasoft Money
Monopoly
MSDict
Master Thief 3D
My Diary
Napalm Racing
netClock
NetFront 3
PalmVNC
PhotoSkin
Pinballz
Power48
Quest of the Hero II
Rayman
Omniremote
Scrabble
Shadow Planner*
Speedy
SplashID*
SplashPhoto
Spy Hunter
StoneAge
Kickoo's TakTik
TealAuto
TealDoc
Teal Master
Teal Movie
TinySheet 4
Pocket TV Browser
TV Grid Listings
upIRC
Verichat
WebProV
Win-Hand
XCade
Due Yesterday
Zap!2016

I have about 7MB free. The only things that I have in RAM are ZLauncher, Docs To Go (main program), DateBK5 (for alarms), and system-related utilities such as TTFonts4NX and the Game Controller Configuration app, which are going straight to ROM as soon as JackFlash and JackSprat are released. PowerRUN is a killer app.

bucalo9

02-17-2003, 10:09 AM

Major thank you for detailed post. I just purchased PowerRun and will begin to move stuff!

Many of the apps you have listed I have already on MS w/o PowerRun. Is there in benefit to moving such apps back to ram and then moving to MS with PowerRun?

mashoutposse

02-17-2003, 10:21 AM

I'm not sure if the launcher-based method will do this, but PowerRUN moves both the application and all of its databases to MS without fuss. PowerRUN will also delete applications relatively cleanly. In addition, I find PowerRUN to be a much more organized method of managing off-loaded programs.

Unregistered

02-17-2003, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by matt7777
NoMoN and Bucalo9

I can follow you for putting word and sheet in /launcher directory.
But then what did you do with Documents or docs to go? Mine on Clie file says it is locked and so is word to go fonts.

And how did you get all the data files to go into DXTG on the stick and get sync'ed from there? I didn't see anything in the PC software for Docs to go.

Also - what about other things like ebooks/manuals, things ending in DB, skins, backgrounds, icons? I tried to put an ebook on the stick, but tealdoc couldn't see it.

Needless to say, I want to try and get as much on the MS as possible.
Thanks
Matt

All you need to do is use PowerRun to move the DocToGo over to the card.
PowerRun will generate its own folder within the PowerRun directory.
Once moved over it will also move all associated files over to the PowerRun/DTXG
folder.
As for the books I hotsync them over to the MS via the DocToGo desktop app.
Hope this helps

mashoutposse

02-17-2003, 10:31 AM

So, you have gotten Docs to Go to work entirely from the MS with PowerRUN?

n0m0n

02-17-2003, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by Unregistered

All you need to do is use PowerRun to move the DocToGo over to the card.
PowerRun will generate its own folder within the PowerRun directory.
Once moved over it will also move all associated files over to the PowerRun/DTXG
folder.
As for the books I hotsync them over to the MS via the DocToGo desktop app.
Hope this helps

mashoutposse

02-17-2003, 10:36 AM

I am asking again in spite of his post because I just tried it and it didn't work. Well, the Docs To Go program started up, but I couldn't load any documents (blank screen when I try to load).

I simply want to know if he has thoroughly tested it and gotten it to work flawlessly. Because if he has, that will be excellent news (I can reclaim another 1MB).

n0m0n

02-17-2003, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by mashoutposse
I am asking again in spite of his post because I just tried it and it didn't work. Well, the Docs To Go program started up, but I couldn't load any documents (blank screen when I try to load).

I simply want to know if he has thoroughly tested it and gotten it to work flawlessly. Because if he has, that will be excellent news (I can reclaim another 1MB).

Ok first install DocToGo and all as normal.
When hotsyncing the documents or books within the desktop app choose to sync over to the MS.
It will create its own folder under the Programs directory on the MS.
Now move WorkToGo, Word+, SheetsToGo, over to the launch folder on the MS.
Make sure the WordToGoFonts remain on you unit not MS.
So we now only would have the DocToGo.prc on the unit, right?
Through PowerRun choose to move the DocToGo which will generate a DocToGo folder under the PowerRun which is in the Programs directory.
Now what will be moved into this Palm/Program/PowerRun/DocToGo folder will be DocToGo.prc, DocToGoDB.prc, DSDTGP.prc.
Hence only the font prc should remain and a shortcut.
Works for me...
Hope this helps.

n0m0n

02-17-2003, 11:19 AM

Let me add that the only app that I have not been able to move and continue to use
has been Avantgo which makes sense because it needs to be on the unit and able to
activate when synching.
I have tried Advantage and have not had much success...
I am sure there are other app's that may not work but this is it for my needs.
I must say that even Fonts 4NX works via the PowerRun program.

bucalo9

02-17-2003, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by n0m0n

Ok first install DocToGo and all as normal.
When hotsyncing the documents or books within the desktop app choose to sync over to the MS.
It will create its own folder under the Programs directory on the MS.
Now move WorkToGo, Word+, SheetsToGo, over to the launch folder on the MS.
Make sure the WordToGoFonts remain on you unit not MS.
So we now only would have the DocToGo.prc on the unit, right?
Through PowerRun choose to move the DocToGo which will generate a DocToGo folder under the PowerRun which is in the Programs directory.
Now what will be moved into this Palm/Program/PowerRun/DocToGo folder will be DocToGo.prc, DocToGoDB.prc, DSDTGP.prc.
Hence only the font prc should remain and a shortcut.
Works for me...
Hope this helps.

Not as clean/cut if you have the premium edition. I cleared out all documents and synced before using PowerRun on DTG apps. I made sure all docs would be synced to MS by default, then moved all apps that would show. Some apps do not show in powerRun window and are locked, like WordToGoFonts & SmartChart. WTGclipboard is there but not locked.

Everything worked when I synced an exel sheet, a word doc, a jpeg and a PPT. However the PicsTo Go app re-appeared in ram-now I have two, one in ram, one in PowerRun MS. Yikes.

bucalo9

02-17-2003, 11:38 AM

I tried running the PicsToGo, not using the Documents app, but using the PicToGo app-mistake. Just got splash screen for PicToGo and now none of the other DTG apps would run, including DTG Documents. I moved Documents and PicsTGo back to ram using PowerRun, and everything works again.

n0m0n

02-17-2003, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by bucalo9

Not as clean/cut if you have the premium edition. I cleared out all documents and synced before using PowerRun on DTG apps. I made sure all docs would be synced to MS by default, then moved all apps that would show. Some apps do not show in powerRun window and are locked, like WordToGoFonts & SmartChart. WTGclipboard is there but not locked.

Everything worked when I synced an exel sheet, a word doc, a jpeg and a PPT. However the PicsTo Go app re-appeared in ram-now I have two, one in ram, one in PowerRun MS. Yikes.

I have the premium but only use the basics.
Not to impressed.
Also the tech support personnel have bad attitudes.
I more prefer WordSmith, for there desire to be very helpful in supporting there
product.
Anyway, the other app's you mentioned cant say anything about deleted them a long
time ago.
As for PicsToGo, I have it but, don't like it, so I would recommend that you delete
the prc from the ram, and then move via PowerRun the one from the MS back to
ram.
I use AcidImage, SplashPhoto, for my viewing needs.
To each is own though.
Both the viewer apps that I mentioned can be moved and work extremely well via
PowerRun though.
Again hope htis helps.

bucalo9

02-17-2003, 11:47 AM

Jeff, its not that I feel DTG is better than some stand alone programs-I have AcidImage for instance. I have been using DatavizMail to sync my company e-mail and really like the the ability to read attachments on my PDA. It would be great to get all of the Premium's version capability, DatavizMail and all the attachments onto the stick. Doesn't look like PowerRun really takes me any closer though.

mashoutposse

02-17-2003, 11:54 AM

n0m0n

02-17-2003, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by mashoutposse

Thanks; I'll try this!

BTW, I thought Pics To Go was necessary to see pics in your documents?

Yes I believe it would be.
I though have not had a need that would justify turning to PicToGo.
The issues far out way the needs.
For me at least.

Booler

08-03-2004, 06:13 AM

God day,

Netfront isn't listed when i start Powerrun.

I use a Sony Clie TH55, Powerrun 1.3.

So what can i do?

Thx

sebring

08-03-2004, 07:36 AM

Is Netfront stored in RAM or ROM on the TH55? Powerrun can't move apps stored in ROM, only apps stored in RAM. On my NX80 Netfront is in ROM.

winexprt

08-03-2004, 02:48 PM

God day,

Netfront isn't listed when i start Powerrun.

I use a Sony Clie TH55, Powerrun 1.3.

So what can i do?

Thx

Nothing. You have absolutely no need for this. NetFront v3.1 is stored in ROM on the TH55. You can't move it around via PowerRun. Only people who use NetFront v3.1 in RAM on Clies that didn't come with 3.1 can, i.e. UX50, NX80V...you get it now. :)

addict

08-03-2004, 11:13 PM

Maybe I am being stupid or something but what does Powerrun do that ZLauncher can't, so far I have nearly all my apps running from MS using Zlauncher including Docs To Go.

I think it was established way back in the cliesource days that ZLauncher can do the same thing with apps (store on MS, load into RAM on deman) as PowerRun. The biggest benefit of using ZLauncher to do this, of course, is that it's also a very nice Launcher (for one price).