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Phydeaux III
06-23-2003, 07:56 PM
It seems that my NX crashes alot more often than any other palm I've previously owned. I am not sure if this is inherent to OS5 or it is just me.

How often does your NX crash ?

the_tick
06-23-2003, 08:12 PM
My NX70 rarely crashes. :D But I don't use any of the hacks, third party launchers, or special utilities.

What sort of software are you using? Could that be the source of your crashes?

reimer
06-23-2003, 08:32 PM
Palm Os5 applications can work in dual mode, native or emulating old PALM OS.
Because of emulation mode, most crashes appears. I had 2 Palms before with OS 3.5 and 4.1 and they were solid rock.
With NX and Palm OS5, I need to have updated MS backups, that I used them specially after some combinations of software generates soft or hard resets.
Some hints that may help to avoid crash and poor recovery data:
Use emulator to test new software before installing.
MS backups, or if you donīt want that space to be permanently used in MS space, generate MS Backup to stick, use MS Import to copy it to Desktop, then delete backup set from Memory Stick.-

Hope that this may help.

NJFP42
06-23-2003, 08:42 PM
Mine crashed when I tried to convert my 4.1 into 5. Some programs said ".....NO!" Got rid of them and all is well! BTW, they were third party programs. Had a dickens of a time with Launcher X, got it working, but decided I liked the NX70's OS5 launcher better! X-master and the associated hacks will NOT run on OS 5. Pity, I really liked name switch!

Cheers,
Steve H.

avega
06-23-2003, 08:43 PM
it depends on software, simply be sure to hotsync often and you are covered.

Soft resets don't harm your system or data

ccelada
06-23-2003, 09:25 PM
Hard resets doesn't either, as long as you have a recent Backup, or Hotsync... I've had lots of resets, mostly due to CF driver, i guess.

clie_wannabe
06-23-2003, 09:28 PM
yeah... unless one is so sleepy that id chosen "handheld overwrites desktop" after i had my hard reset...

*bummer*

n2ifp
06-23-2003, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by the_tick
My NX70 rarely crashes. :D But I don't use any of the hacks, third party launchers, or special utilities.

What sort of software are you using? Could that be the source of your crashes?

Ditto!

Crashes are caused by memory issues, be it software, user induced, or corrupted RAM. Sometimes the memory stick too. This is where you play detective and find the offending culprit.

abosco
06-23-2003, 10:24 PM
Mine crashes I'd say once every 3-4 days. But usually I'll soft reset once a day to keep NetFront nimble, so maybe that helps system stability in general.

rrickee
06-23-2003, 10:43 PM
My NX70 which I've had since Christmas has only crashed once. I'm very impressed after switching from a Visor Pro.

I too don't use any kind of hacks.

Richard

cbulock
06-23-2003, 10:44 PM
Mine rarely crashes, execpt for today. :( Had my first hard reset and it turns out the saved perferences file isn't saved by the Hotsync, nor by the MSBackup app. Been spending all day returning my settings to normal.
But, generally, if it ever does crash, it's usually due to switching Memory Sticks, or messing with apps that change stuff at the OS level.

*YellowRose*
06-23-2003, 11:00 PM
I rarely have even a soft reset (that's usually only when using/making changes in JackFlash), even rarer still is a hard reset. I think I've had one hard reset since Nov . . .

My NX is awesome!

leung
06-23-2003, 11:01 PM
cf driver cause my nx to crash

rldunn
06-23-2003, 11:16 PM
My NX rarely ever has a soft reset, maybe once a month, and that's usually due to testing software. If yours is crashing more often, I would start to look for files that may have been hotsynced from previous devices.

Eddy
06-23-2003, 11:23 PM
I'd have to say mostly due to 3rd party softwares, causing unstability but crash as in a soft-reset right? I just always keep an MS full of backup recovery in case of a hard-reset crash, which seldom occurs. Only when I do so intensionally when I've added a new software that seems to make the unit unstable. Just choosing delete is another option, but my preference is a full recovery, fast & clean. :D

stevek
06-24-2003, 12:13 AM
Mine rarely has a soft reset. well right now every couple of days. I am not sure what changed to cause it. but it has always been software and usually software not up to date.

Eddy
06-24-2003, 12:51 AM
actually I lost count of it....

dach95
06-24-2003, 01:27 AM
AIM1.1 caused me to to boot into fatal error several times resulted in hard reset. I now boot into save mode and just delete the settings to recover....other than that...I had a few soft resets now and then. C

Gerald_Schuh
06-24-2003, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Phydeaux III
It seems that my NX crashes alot more often than any other palm I've previously owned. I am not sure if this is inherent to OS5 or it is just me.

How often does your NX crash ?


Never. I have my NX70 since at about 3 weeks and it never does a hard reset. I'm using JackFlash, Zlauncher, Isilo, PalmReader, Plucker, MS Dictionary and a lot of other programs. But i DON't have eruwares CF driver. Maybe it's the reason of your crashes?

aithir
06-24-2003, 01:59 AM
Very rarely, I use software from serious palm OS software companies, no third party utilities, no CF driver.

clicker
06-24-2003, 04:27 AM
I have a problem with having to do a soft reset every so often and all I see is the virtual graffiti area in a smaller size in the middle of the screen then slowly fades away... at this point I have to do the soft reset, and I don't know what precipitates this problem. Sometimes this would happen 3-4 times a day and sometimes it won't happen for a week or so. Very wierd. I'm using Launcher III. No other hacks or CF drivers installed. Just regular programs.

Any thoughts from anyone?

lal2707
06-24-2003, 05:14 AM
I have not done a hard reset since start of the year - however soft resets many times. Most seem to happen when I am using Avantgo or the browsers.

qwertyuiop
06-24-2003, 06:44 AM
i've had my clie for about 4-5 months; it's crashed only a few times not including the time i tried using scummvm (or whatever that open source thingy's called)

*YellowRose*
06-24-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by clicker
I have a problem with having to do a soft reset every so often and all I see is the virtual graffiti area in a smaller size in the middle of the screen then slowly fades away... at this point I have to do the soft reset, and I don't know what precipitates this problem. Sometimes this would happen 3-4 times a day and sometimes it won't happen for a week or so. Very wierd. I'm using Launcher III. No other hacks or CF drivers installed. Just regular programs.

Any thoughts from anyone? Well, sounds like some sort of software conflict to me . . . Maybe try a hard reset and installing all your programs fresh instead of from hotsync or backup? It will be kindof a pain, but you may be very happy with the result - a stable NX. Oh, and make sure you're using the very latest software available from the developer . . . sometimes older versions of software acts real strange on OS5.

reactor18
06-26-2003, 03:47 AM
From day 1 I've had more crashes than I can count. Today, the unit crashed so badly (I think the MS getting ejected while in my pocket did it this time) that a hard reset has not been able to restore it. This is the third NX70 I have used from Best Buy and I can't wait to get rid of this thing and get the NX80.

Thank goodness for the warranty. When it's NOT crashing, it is the most wonderful PDA in the world... but when it goes...

I'm not running anything weird on it either. I use it mostly, to read, shoot video and pics and play insaneaquarium... maybe THAT'S what's doing it... hmmmmmm... :|

Eddy
06-26-2003, 03:49 AM
Lost count... :(

archangel
06-26-2003, 08:26 AM
I've had a few freeze ups when I would have to push the reset button and then the Clie would then do a hard reset. I've learned to always keep a current backup on my memory stick.

I haven't had to many problems lately though. Even the Eruware driver has behaved well.

choyue
06-26-2003, 12:37 PM
I have had hard-reset crashes since day 1 and it's probably because I want to use Presenter to go - see my post on a separate thread.

helmutk
06-26-2003, 12:55 PM
I have never had a hard reset crash since I first received the NX70 last Nov., and I do have many third party apps and games installed.
I do get an occasional soft reset, may once every few weeks, and this is also usually when using a browser or syncing Avantgo.

druss
06-26-2003, 02:02 PM
mine now crashes every time i go to use M3 icons in datebk5. I know I am doing something wrong but ? I havent a clue. I switched icons in the datebk5 folder and it still did a reset then used the other hi-res icon folder. it seems if it is very blah then it is ok to use but any nice detail ones it sets it off in hard reset. One time lost all. Any suggestions I am using icon manager that i paid. and deleted the db+icon and vis-versa and still it wont work. it seems like i am the only one haveing problems with this so any fix would be much appreciated thanks Dr

abosco
06-26-2003, 02:04 PM
AIM1.1 caused me to to boot into fatal error several times resulted in hard reset. I now boot into save mode and just delete the settings to recover....other than that...I had a few soft resets now and then. C


AIM1.1 does this sometimes when you disconnect your Palm from the network without signing off AIM. After that, AIM is unusable. You need to delete AIM and reinstall. Usually, I keep a backup of the program in a folder in the MS and copy it over when it happens. It's old software, so you can't be too careful with it. Just MSBackup often, that's my only recommendation.

Yvette
06-26-2003, 07:53 PM
I have hsd my NX70V for six months and it never once crashed.

okmozart
06-26-2003, 09:24 PM
Mine crashes several times a day. Not sure why. The latest Plucker seems to crash each time I delete a doc. I am also suspicious of the CF driver, but nothing conclusive as I cannot duplicate crashes other than Plucker.

My Palm 505 NEVER crashed. Not sure if it's OS4 vs. OS5 or Palm vs. Sony.

boagie17
06-26-2003, 09:53 PM
My NX60 crashes every now and then when I play movies and then hit the home key in mid play. When I say crash I mean soft reset not total loss of data. That hasnt happened since the latest Clie patches that are available via sony support. I also have noticed when I my YiShow and have a background and skin enabled, which I have the files on a ms, it soft resets every now and again. Other than that, Im happy with the "hiccups" every now and then. On average I think its about once a month.

CleonVan
06-26-2003, 09:57 PM
I haven't had any crashes yet, NX60 owner as of May '03, but then I haven't played with any hacks, alternate launchers etc. I've installed a handful of apps but have been careful in selecting them.

To be honest I'm a bit skittish about installing any and every cool thing I come across as I just don't know what they might leave behind on my machine if I decide to remove them.

I am proceeding with caution I suppose.

Unregistered
06-26-2003, 10:01 PM
every time i use netfront

Eddy
06-27-2003, 12:13 AM
hum... occasional crash does occur when pushing the Clie too much with running powerrun to run applications such as netfonts or picselviewer. but rare cases..

contempt
06-27-2003, 12:57 AM
I've had about 6 hard reset crashes within the year. Good thing I run backupman. I can now recover all of files and reinstall everything in about 15 minutes.

alrosen
06-27-2003, 08:38 AM
If your Clie crashes using Netfront, make SURE you have the newest version, NOT the one that came with the CD packed with the unit.

Frequent poster Larry Winward found this link:

http://avina.best.vwh.net/palm.html

My NX-70 crashed all the time with the original Netfront. It's been fine with this version.

-Alan

qwertyuiop
06-27-2003, 09:01 AM
i'm using the original Netfront that came with the CD, and i haven't had any problems with it crashing.

Eddy
06-27-2003, 01:01 PM
I'm using the new ver. 1.1.47 NetFonts. of course Japanese version though..:)

Benvolio
06-27-2003, 01:09 PM
Mine crashes almost every time I use it.

The only software I can think of that might have an impact (the rest are un-used games) are NX Movie Aide and Fonts4NX (which I suppose have a system-wide impact).

All I have to do to provoke a needed soft-reset is to hit the thumb capture button, launch Movie Rec from the menu, or ???

Accordingly, I have become a very quick stencil tip unscrewer!

It does suck, but I don't know what to do about it...

boagie17
06-27-2003, 01:27 PM
Benvolio, have you updated your Clie software with the lates software/drivers? It can be found on the Sony support site. Do a search here and a link can take you there.

I used to get hard and soft resets due to the NX Movie Aide. But after the update of the software, its been really stable.

On an offnote, have you registered the NXMovie Aide? I also have found that to help also.

TheSpies
06-27-2003, 03:19 PM
mine crashes all the time, not because there are any problems, i just love mucking about with things and altering files.

Benvolio
06-29-2003, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by boagie17
Benvolio, have you updated your Clie software with the lates software/drivers? It can be found on the Sony support site. Do a search here and a link can take you there.

I used to get hard and soft resets due to the NX Movie Aide. But after the update of the software, its been really stable.

On an offnote, have you registered the NXMovie Aide? I also have found that to help also.


Yup, I'm all up to date!

Thanks for the advice,

-Benvolio