Screen Protector Discussion Renewed

[jasguild]

Before the Cliesource corruption there was a very valuable and lengthy discussion about screen protector.

I had just found a new screen protector that is being marketed in Japan and now in the US. In the event you all missed it before it got lost here it is.

It is called lumitector see http://www.lumitector.com/

It is a screen protector that looks darn cool. It has glow in the dark graffiti area.

Also it has the sticky side like the brando but the clearness like the G2. From what I was reading before that is like taking the best attributes from both of those products and putting them into one product. Also it appears that installation is easy.

let me know what you think. I just ordered a set and will be updating you all in the next couple weeks about my experience.

Jasguild

[jasguild]

Anyone else tried this product?

Jasguild

[tanker_bob]

No. I use CompanionLinks on my T665C. They are wonderfully transparent, easy to install, and last for months (last one for six months). My pack of 12 will last longer than I'll own my Clie. :) I use MessagEase Stamp on my grafitti area, so I cut the CompanionLink screen saver so that it comes just to the upper edge of the stamp.

[PlatRick]

Ouch.... got my first scratch on my 665, a pit in the grafitti area

Where do you find the companionlink product?:mad:

[tanker_bob]

Sorry to hear about your pit. I tried their website with no luck, but they still carry them at freescreenprotectors (http://www.freescreenprotectors.com/). They aren't actually free, but they are only $5 plus shipping for a pack of 12. I bought two packs--one for a friend--to offset the shipping. It's still a bargain, because they retailed for $19.99 for 12.

[TheMooch]

Lumitector is a neat idea, but not very practical for devices with Virtual Grafitti areas. I used to take the Fellowes brand protectors and cut them down to cover only the Hard Grafitti area on my Handspring. This worked great as the glass was protected during writing (with excellent tactile feel) and the main screen didn't become hard to see because of the screen protector.

[VLevyNYC]

I just ordered the iConcepts 12-pack for 9.99 from Amazon. Anyone have any input regarding this one?

[bobbd]

I recently purchased the G2 from PDA Screen Protectors (pdascreenprotectors.com) for my T665 after reading the various pros and cons on this forum. A friend has the Brando on his N760 and although he likes it, it is not transparent but slightly milky and does wash out the colours somewhat. Based on that I went with the G2.

It is somewhat tricky to install because you don't simply lay it down over the screen. Since dust is an issue, I installed in the bathroom, used a duster (canned air), and wore latex gloves (we had a box and they're cheap). With patience I was able to get it installed twice with no damage.

The reason for the twice is that I use TapPad and I installed over the overlay the first time. I did this because I figured that because the G2 doesn't stick to the screen, I didn't want the overlay moving if I stuck it on top. Also, PDA Screen Protectors advice was to put the overlay under the G2. Well it doesn't work because the TapPad overlay thickness raises the G2 such that you loose touch sensitivity and accuracy badly anywhere near the overlay.

The answer was to put the overlay on top of the G2. That's why the two installs. And since the G2 actually doesn't move once it's properly installed, everything works.

One thing I do find is that the G2 reduces touch sensitivity very slightly. I use an InnoPocket stylus (highly recommended) and there are times when I have to touch a second time harder. Without the G2, the screen is very sensitive. Other than that minor complaint and the TapPad overlay issue, it works as expected and I recommend it (for what that's worth :-) ).

Comparing it to the Brando on my friend's Clie, you can easily see the differences. The G2 is clear and doesn't affect the colours or screen brightness. However it also doesn't cut down any glare. But then the stock screen glares as well.

Both products are great and it's a matter of personal preference.

Sorry if this was a little long.

[JimmyX]

Hi there,
yesterday I sticked my Lumitector on my SJ30.

It is superb - the upper part (covering display) is veeeery clear - you hardly notice that there is any screen protector there. The lower part (your "new" Graffiti area) is also cool. It has interesting texture and writing on it is great. And of course - it nicely glows in the dark :-).

Instalation of this screen protector was simply smooth - no bubbles or any other difficulties. Maybe only this - on the SJ30, the protector is about 1 mm smaller than the display, so if you align it with the upper edge of the screen, you will have that 1 mm gap between lower edge of the display and Lumitector.

BUT I'd like to be wrong, but it seems that the Graffiti area will be a liitle bit sensitive to scratches. I use original stylus for my SJ30 (with plastic tip) and my first "Z" written on the Lumitector was there for a certain period of time - now it is not as visible as it was, but it is still there. Of course, I'm not using extreme force when writing (or I hope so ;-)).

Bye

Jimmy

[mapabl]

I've used Fellowes, WriteRights and CompanionLink screen protectors over the past couple years and my experience has been that for the first couple days, you might be alittle disappointed by tiny bubbles, etc. but for some reason by the third day, they settle in and disappear. I start at the top and stretch the protector toward the bottom as I'm installing it with that plastic card. They're almost a must if you want to recoup some of your cost if you want to resell your handheld on eBay. Sometimes you can sell it for what you bought it for as you keep moving up the handheld ladder - just got the T665 and I think I'm REALLY in love now and hopefully done buying. Thanks to all who keep giving us hints and answers to what ponders. Mary

[jams1fan]

I've tried to order lumitector on a couple of occasions. I found the site to be unfriendly. My credit card kept rejecting. Finally received notice from the site administrator that my order wouldn't go through because they don't accept yahoo email addresses. I finally gave up. I'm using G2 and like it pretty well.

[Gazpacho]

To JimmyX:

I would have tried the lumitector if they had the SJ version available on their site, but there's only a creepy Japanese version available with an alternate grafitti area.

Do you have an English lumitector for the SJ series? Or did you buy a T series lumitector? The grafitti area is not the same...

Gee, so many questions, I'm curious!

[JimmyX]

To Gazpacho:

Well, I'm using English version of T-series Lumitector. The Graffiti area is slightly different, but I didn't have any problem yet ...

The only problem (IMHO) could be with DA-Launchers (which divides the "Home" icon to four parts with different functions), but I don't use any, sorry ... maybe one day I'll test it.

I think the Lumictector is worth trying!

Jimmy

[Gazpacho]

Thanks for your reply JimmyX.

I was already wondering whether the grafitti area of the SJ/T series were the same. Almost, so it seems. So according to you, the non-aligned glow in the dark paint of the lumitector in relation to the grafitti area on the Clie doesn't bother you, or can't you see the paint in normal daylight?

[zipman]

I use #811 Scotch tape to cover the grafitti area. I have used it for over 5 years with 6 different Palm devices. I change the tape weekly with no residue and my grafitti area is perfect.

811 scotch (blue box, blue spool)
#19244-9 (3/4 x 1296 in.)
Office Max $2.35

[bg002h]

i use the writewright from fellowes, but I clip them so they don't cover the graffiti area. They don't feel right to write on. Something smoother...I might try the #811 scotch tape...any other ideas?

hey TheMooch -- clever .sig :)

[JimmyX]

To Gazpacho:

The Graffiti area on Lumitector is totally opaque (that's very good). So you can't see the original paint on Clie display.

BTW, the problem with scratches is gone ... I think there was probably some kind of coating(?). I wiped the Lumitector with a soft cloth and it's OK now.

Regards

Jimmy

[wnm]

I use Companionlink on my T665. I shared them with a friend, so it comes out pretty cheap ($20 at Amazon with free shipping). They are crystal clear and go on easy. Even if you get a few tiny air bubbles, they will dispear over time.

[rolando]

I have a Brando for my T665 and had one for my N610C before. They reduce the glare quit a bit, but do dull the screen a bit. After it's on for a day or so, I just forget it's there.

I got my first bad scratch on it yesterday, though. There must have been a piece of sharp dust of some sort on the screen. My stylus pushed it right across the screen and I could feel the scratch. Ouch! I'm just glad I had the protector: it's one bad scratch.

My grafitti area gets dull on my Brandos, but other than that, this is the first scratch. Are the other protectors more or less scratch resistant than the brandos?

Rolando

[Dxomas]

I just installed the Brando a week ago. Installation was a breeze and it cuts down on glare.

[Bionic Antboy]

Personally, I prefer the Innopocket / Sony brand type protectors. A friend of mine has a Brando, and it seems pretty much the same as Innopocket or Sony's. Have you tried using a small amount of an Armor-All type product on it? A couple of people mentioned that in the pre-database crash cliesource forum.

Also, I just wanted to sound out on my screen protector opinions in general, for what they're worth. :)

I've tried Fellowes WriteRight and the IConcepts and hated both.

Fellowes and IConcepts were both a pain in the arse to put on.

Fellowes seemed too 'cloudy' and became scratchy after about a week.

IConcepts were clearer (looked VERY nice if scratches could be avoided), but during the application stage, the screen protector would get at least a little scratched (even though I tried a couple of things to work as an applicator, including the Fellowes cardboard piece :) ). It seemed to last only 3 or 4 days before becoming annoyingly scratched.

IConcepts also left an annoyingly high amount of tacky residue on the screen after removal.

I couldn't recommend any of the soft style (12 in a pack) protectors, as none of them seem to last a full month of normal usage (which is generally considered to be about 1 hour a day).

I picked up an Innopocket protector ($10 US for one), which is thicker and harder (no jokes please) than the soft types. It can be washed, and after almost months of use, there is no permanent wear. Any scuffs from heavy use (say Bejeweled) seem to wipe away with a soft cloth or even shirt sleeve.

It reduces the glare without being cloudy, and seems to improve Grafitti recognition. H always seemed to be the most difficult to write before putting a protector on.

I also bought a Sony brand protector for $10 US, and it seems to be IDENTICAL to the Innopocket one. Of course, I've been using the Innopocket one for almost 3 months, and don't have any desire or need to remove it yet. :)

Costwise, it makes more sense to get one of these harder screen protectors.

My .02
Antboy

[Macabre Man]

I love Brandos.


I order them for every PDa I own.

[madkins007]

My experiences:

Fellowes- tried the textured version on my old Visor, hated them. Never went back.

NuShield new versions- Very similar to G2's, but install and fit differently. I am not quite as happy with the fit or install as i am with the G2, and do not think they are quite as durable (but no hard evidence for that!)

G2 (www.pdascreenprotectors.com)- my fave. Tough, scratch resistant, clear. I use a trick from an earlier thread and disassembled my PDA, laid the protector on the clean screen, then used thin pieces of tape to adhere it in place- sticking the top edge first and blowing off any new dust, then the other edges quickly. (I used normal tape then trimmed it after installation!) Result- dust is sealed out from between the two layers. Only problem is that I got a minor smudge trapped in there and it is awkward to disassemble.

Brandos (Innopocket/Sony): I love these- easy to install, durable, easily washable (more 'forgiving' than G2s in this respect). ONLY drawback to me is the slight dulling of the screen.

Radio Shack brand: These are thin, clear Mylar (I believe) adhesive protectors that are relatively cheap, but start showing scratches almost immediately. Grafitti area will haze up in a very short time. On the other hand, because of availability, I consider them a sort of back-up plan- if I am ever caught without my G2, I'll grab a quick pack of these to use until I get covered again.

Tape on Grafitti area: Cheap, easy, effective, but no protection for the main screen, and bad things can happen so easily! Low-tack tape is best, but regular tape will work if you reduce the tackiness by pressing it on some cloth, like your shirt, first. I preferred the clear tape as opposed to the frosted stuff, but that is a personal preference.

Home-made protectors: You can make your own from vinyl and adhere it with a drop or two of water, or from pieces of film, like overhead transparencies. I gave it up because the transparencies scratched so easily (or moved around or whatever), and the vinyl bubbled and scratched, etc. For me, it was too much trouble for too little protection for too little savings.

[Gazpacho]

To JimmyX:

Wow, but... but... the grafitti area of the T and SJ series are not the same, how can you write on the opaque T grafitti area of the Lumitector without missing the *actual* SJ grafitti area all the time?

I hope you can answer this one. :)

[jasguild]

Well its been over a week. Still waiting for my Lumitector to arrive. :(

jasguild

[Anita]

>>>Well its been over a week. Still waiting for my Lumitector to arrive.

Oh my, don't get your hopes up. There were long threads about this before Cliesource got wiped out. Average delivery time is 3-6 weeks. Some theorized it's because the company seems unable to get US shipping addresses entered correctly. . . .(or maybe they ship by boat, which is why it's so cheap <G>).

I ordered mine Dec. 14. Not here yet. I figure they will get here when/if they get here.

Anita

[Unregistered]

I read the pros and cons of various screen protectors and ended up going with Lumitector. It is perfectly clear and does a great job. Maybe I've developed better graffiti habits, but it seems to help with graffiti recognition. The glow-in-the-dark feature has turned out to be very useful. It took forever for my Lumitectors to arrive, but overall I'm glad I waited for them.

[JimmyX]

To Gazpacho:

As I wrote before, the Graffiti areas of T and SJ Clies are only slightly different. IMHO the difference is at most 1 mm (in size and position together). Due to opacity of the Lumitector I can't say more precisely. I think, such a inaccuracy isn't critical for using new Lumitector Graffiti area ... you probably don't use the area from corner to corner. I didn't have any problem yet ;-) ...

Jimmy

[jasguild]

Lumintector website says five days for shipping but this is beyond five days now.

I even wrote them but have not heard back from them yet. OF course they have already billed my credit card.

I hope the product was worth waiting for. I think you are right Anita.

Jasguild

[Anita]

Yes, they are QUITE prompt about the billing, aren't they?

I haven't e-mailed them. From what I've read from others, they don't respond; it's sort of a waste of time.

I don't remember anyone saying it took SIX weeks (which is where I'm at) -- but I do remember in the threads that the addressing was incorrect for US Postal Service. . . .

I wonder if there's anyone who has ordered these and never received them period. Don't recall anyone saying that. But I figured it was a possibility.

Meanwhile, I use Writerights. I would like to try the Lumitectors; I could use the glow-in-the-dark feature. And my Writerights are wearing out very quickly on my T665C, because I'm using it so much more than I used my IIIc.

Anita

[breegenie]

I've used a few screen protectors on my various Palm devices:

WriteRights: loved the pen on paper feel, best Graffiti recognition, but I could barely get a month out of one and they were wretched to install. Went through two twelve packs in 8 months!

iConcepts: pretty similar to WriteRights but they fell apart even faster!

Brando: the texture wasn't bad, but the milky look under flourescent lighting made my T615C's screen impossible to read at work. Although it is supposedly washable, I can't seem to get the lint off the sticky side.

G2: I love the durability and clarity, but my Graffitti recognition has gone down dramatically. I am doing almost all input on my computer now :(

Can anyone recommend a clear protector with good texture?
If I don't use the Sony toothpick/stylus, Graffiti input is slightly better (I actually like the iPaq 3600/3700 series styli--nice weight, length and tip--got them the BF when he discovered they stuck in the silo of his 3700 series).

[Unregistered]

Does anyone which lumitector to use for the Clie T415?

[Yatt]

i have got my 665 in my hand, not gonna write on it until i got my brando!

(right now i am just jog dialing around.....):p

[jasguild]

When I ordered my lumitector for my T665 there was a big notice saying it wont work with T415.

Now I had a T415 and the only difference I can tell between these two models is that the T 415 had brightness and contrast buttons whereas the T665 only has contrast.

So my guess is that if you keep that in mind, the T665 one should work. YOu will just have to remember where the brighteness button is because the lumitectors graffiti areas is from what I understand, completely opaque and has its own borders and titles. So you wont see anything where the brightness button is.

jasguild

[jasguild]

By the way I am getting really pissed off with Lumitector. I ordered mine about 4 weeks ago. The charge appeared on my credit card the following day but I have not received anything yet. WIll give them another week and then I will contact my credit card company.

[jasguild]

Anyone received their lumitector yet?? If I dont get mine by the end of this week, I am getting my credit card company involved.

These guys are unbelievable. Great product idea; horible distribution.

jasguild

[Anita]

Been over two months on mine. I gave up. I ordered G2s last week.

Anita

[VLevyNYC]

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">&lt;&lt;&lt;IConcepts also left an annoyingly high amount of tacky residue on the screen after removal&gt;&gt;&gt;</SPAN>
</SPAN>

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Thanks so much for your post; I found it ver y helpful. I unfortunately bought one of the iConcepts and when I removed it&nbsp;the first time there was is residue all over the place.&nbsp;I tried removing it with a light spray of Windex, but that seemed to create spots on the screen so I stopped that. Then someone recommended buying, which I did, the Scoth Brite cloth from 3M to remove it. The problem is I think I should use some type of cleaner with it to remove the residue but am lost as to what to use.</SPAN>

<SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt">Wha</SPAN>t did you use to remove the residue?

P.S. After all the good things written about the Lumitector, I think I'm gonna get one myself. Hopefully it'll arrive by Memorial Day.

[jasguild]

By the time you get your lumitector, your pda might be obsolete..


jasguild

[jasguild]

Anita, did you get back your money??

jasguild

[Anita]

jasguild, dunno about the money. Was just going to write it off to my own stupidity -- since I'd seen the threads on poor delivery (tho no post from someone who'd simply not received them at all). But you inspired me to go ahead and send in the credit claim (and e-mail Zeus, instead of Lumitector). . . . .That was only today. . .

In many-odd years of buying a ton of stuff off the Internet, that would be the first time I never got the merchandise. And I've never had an Internet seller refuse a return.

My only other bad Internet experience was a pilfered card number, but my card company called me within an hour of the first (and only, it turned out) charge -- someone used it to charge a phone call in Bulgaria. Not in keeping with my "usual purchase pattern," immediately raised a red flag, particularly since I'd had an Iowa charge the day before <g>. I was pretty impressed with the card company's speedy pickup on that.

Anita

[jasguild]

Zeus?? I bought mine at www.lumitector.com

At least you have another middle man to raise hell with.

jasguild

[Anita]

If you look at your e-mail receipt, you'll see that Zeus USA is processing the orders (or processed mine, anyway). Zeus is the name that appears on my charge bill. That's the Zeus I meant. I hadn't thought to e-mail them either until today; there was an e-mail address for them on the receipt.

Anita

[Unregistered]

I ordered from Europe my screen protectors fr www.lumitector.com in Dec 02.

After the 10th day of waiting, I decided to write an email out of curiosity. They assured me, per email in broken english, it was on the way, after billing my CC on the 1st day of ordering. I recieved my order 2 weeks after ordering.

They also mentioned that billing and ordering depts were being restructured for 2003!?!

Try writing an email to customer service, it worked for me.. no probs!

The protector is a very clear, easy to apply film and I would highly recommend it. I use a T675.

Good luck!

regards, Brian

[jasguild]

I have written to support@lumitector.com about 10 times which is the email I got from lumitector.com. That is the email they said to write to for billing or shipping issues.

I have not heard back ANYTHING from them. Which email address did you write to??

jasguild

[Anita]

creditinfo@zeroweb.co.jp

And I did get a response. Trust me, it's not worth e-mailing them, they say it's all up to Lumitector. Zeus is "just a card processing company".

I never got a response from lumitector either.


Anita

[jasguild]

Hey Brian

What email address did you write to?? Anita and I only have email addresses which have provided no assistance.

Thanks

Jasguild

[VLevyNYC]

I was walking around today and had to stop into the Sony store to check out their screen protector. I have the lumitector on order, but I am OCD and bought the Sony one anyway. It's awesome! Leaves no residue, and applies truly with no bubbles! Much better than the iConcepts crap I was using.

It says it's reuseable, but does anyone know how I can clean it, if at all? I seemed to have gotten some dust on it while applying, so I removed that by tapping the sticky side with some scoth tape. But there are still fingerprints on that flip side and I can't seem to remove it (now I understand the comments by the person who used latex gloves).

Any suggestions for cleaning it and/or removing the fingerprints would be greatly appreciated.

[Burdie]

Jasguild:

I, too, am waiting (not very patiently) for my order to arrive. I have written a couple of strongly worded e-mails to maeda@lumitector.com and have received replies. The latest reply came from support@lumitector.com

Burdie

[jasguild]

Thanks for the update Birdie (and the email address)

What did they say in their emails??

thanks

Jasguild

[madkins007]

Cleaning reusable screens- what works for me:

1. Use a piece of tape on the 'up' or write-on side to give you a handle to work with and keep you from forgetting which side goes up.

2. Wash your hands with liquid soap under running warm water. When all sudsy, wash both sides of the protector well. Rinse under the stream of water. From this point on, only use the tape handle.

3. Using the tape, stick the protector up to drip dry somewhere dust free while you clean your PDA screen.

4. Using some canned air, blow off the water on the protector, and blow off any dust that may have fallen on the PDA.

(If you don't have canned air, dry the protector with a lint-free towel and 'puff' off any lint or dust on the protector and screeen.)

5. Reinstall, giving everything a final 'puff'. Check for problems, repeat if necessary.

Note: A tiny bit of water left on the protector helps some films adhere better (Brandos, etc.), while others should be bone dry (G2's, etc.)

[Burdie]

Jasguild:

Here is the text of their latest reply to me:

"Dear Sir and Madam,

We are very sorry about delay of shipping.
The result of investigation of the omission in dispatch orders,
It turns out that your order was not shipped yet untill now.

We finished shipping your order today, so
you will be able to receive your order in 2-7 days just this time.

Please enjoy the merit of Lumitector.
I hope you would love to use them.
We have confidence with which you are satisfied about using them.

Thank you."

Today was day #2. I received a very similar e-mail two weeks ago when I first wrote to them. As the screen protectors had not arrived after 2 weeks, I wrote again. I heard back (the above e-mail) the same day.

It sounds like they will be good - if they ever get here!

Burdie

[MadBob]

I got am email last night from PDA Screen Protectors (http://www.pdascreenprotectors.com)

this was unsolicited as I only ordered on 14-02-03 so wasn't expecting it yet being in the UK,

Dear customer,

Your G2s shipped several days ago, and are well on their way.

We are about to let the transaction system know that your G2s have shipped (several days after the fact). The system will now generate an email to you to let you know they just shipped, and you will receive this email shortly. We just wanted to make sure you weren't confused by this.

Please get back to us with any further question/comment.

Best Regards,

John Salazar

this was closely followed by the Automated email telling me my Screen Protector had shipped,

this morning I got my Protectors!

very happy with them, they are not sticky, easy to apply (read the instructions carefully) and - as long as you are reasonably prepared - dust free, once in place you wouldn't even know that there is a cover on, no difference in clarity or colour, it looks and feels like my Clie Screen did pre Screen Protector, no difference in feel or stylus pressure either,

I would have liked a Lumitector but there automated payment wouldn't accept my Visa (same one everyone else does) it is something I have come across with online purchasing before, in fact it was this that prompted me to get a Visa when my Master Card kept being rejected (sometimes you just cant win) :)

if I could only find Luminous Tape that I could apply to the Grafiti area, a matt finish Scotch tape that I could print on,

Ideas?

[Anita]

I got my G2s today and I actually managed to put one on without lint or hair under it. I was amazed.

For context, I live with five hairy dogs and two cats in a very old house that blows 100-year-old furnace vent dust etc. all over the place as well. There is no such thing as a "lint-free cloth" (including the one that came with the G2s) in my house.

Now, it did take me a while (about 30 minutes), because of the lint problem. But other than that, it was much easier than I thought it would be. And I love not having to write over scratches in the graffiti area. The old Writerights scratched up instantly.

Anita

[Graloo]

I use the Sony protector for my NR70. I&nbsp;like it a lot, but&nbsp;after six&nbsp;months&nbsp;it's finally showing&nbsp;scuffs and it's time for a replacement.

And that's my trouble. Does anyone have tips for REMOVING a sticky-style screen protector without damaging it or the CLIE?

I've tried pulling the edge up with&nbsp;packing tape as well as a small suction cup with no luck. I've been advised to superglue a strip of plastic near the edge to use as a handle, but I'm terrified it might ooze onto the screen or case. And superglue would definitely destroy the protector.

Any ideas?

--Graloo

[MadBob]

I eMailed pdaSceenprotectors.com to explain that there seemed to be a small scratch on one of the 2 protectors, and it was about 5mm long with the appearance of a knife blade scratch (as if it was done during cutting) but that it was very small and I would likely get used to it,

(note) this was a passing mention during the full email thanking them for a very fast delivery,

they replied saying if I wasn't completely satisfied that they would replace my order,

I mailed back the next day to say it didn't matter as,

1: I couldn't be honestly say that I hadn't done it during installation (the Clie T675C is very sharp at the bottom button panel) and although I was careful, it is still hard be certain,

2: I was getting a replacement Clie as the older one had a problem,

3: I had completely creased the screen protector taking it out, as I was damned if Sony were getting it off me for free, :)

they then mailed me to inform me that they had sent me my order again!

so I can recommend them as they don't arse about, they just deliver.

oh and I have had this protector off since to re clean underneath (there appeared to be a Pube under there - hopefully mine) :/ and back on without creasing it,

[MadBob]

Don't know why it put me as guest (above post)

[Burdie]

Has anyone received their screen protectors from Lumitector? I am beginning to believe they are scam artists. They have had my money for two months, but now aren't even replying to my inquiries. I have gone ahead and contacted my credit card company to complain.

In the meantime, I ordered the ClearTouch Screen Protectors from Boxwave. They came today - as they had promised - and went on just as easily as they said. I was still able to get dust on them, doh! But they seem nice, and seem to work well. I would recommend them.

Burdie

[VLevyNYC]

and price? Also, do they leave any residue when you take off the screen protector&gt;?

[Burdie]

Here's the link I have used for the three pack (seems like the best value).

www.boxwave.com/products/cleartouch/threepack.cfm?type=

BTW - there are other threads about screen protectors in the Accessories Forum, including comments from someone who represents Boxwave.

I took my screen protector off and reapplied it - no residue that I could tell.

Burdie

[BoxWave]

Hi all,

I'm the representative from BoxWave - and just wanted to say, yeah, please try our product out.

We've received tons of reviews, one of which has hit ClieSource : ) -

http://www.cliesource.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=7300

Trust us, this is just one of many positive reviews, I stand behind our product - if you don't like it, you are welcome to return it upon trial.

Very best wishes all,

Wing Lum
BoxWave

[VANWALL]

I have been using a G2 protector on my 665 since 1/1. It is good but not near as nice as nothing. (do not get any ideas I'm talking about screen protectors!)

I have mixed feelings about screen protectors. I can't help but wonder if we are like all the people that used to buy plastic seat covers for their cars to keep the seats nice for the second owners.

Will my Clie become obsolete before I wear out the screen by not using a screen protector????

[riversen]

I know that I will probably seem archaic, but I actually use the Sony Screen protector and like them. Am I nuts or is there a better product that is as thick, strong, and durable while not being glossy? I don't need anything glowing in the dark now that I have Jot 2.01. This is the replacement for Grafitti that Palm will use in all of their new PDA's. It works all over the screen and is very friendly, so I don't have to write in the Grafitti area when I am in the dark. Any thoughts on the my choice or any better recommendations... I am willing to pay extra for a quality product that does not leave bubbles. Thanks.

[jasguild]

Well I guess the Lumitector I paid for will not be coming. It has been several months with no product or even a response to my emails.

Step 2 tonight will involve filing a fraud claim through my credit card company.

Anyone else got theirs/?

jasguild

[Burdie]

Jasguild:

I'm in the same boat. They are not responding to my e-mails.

Like you, I'm curious if anyone has received theirs, and if so, how long it took.

Burdie

[jasguild]

Well I had enough.

I called my credit card company who said they will reverse the payment from them unless they can prove otherwise.

I ordered mine on 15 January. That is unacceptable to be waiting this long especially considering they dont even answer.

jasguild

[alanpgh]

It is called lumitector see http://www.lumitector.com/

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I ordered the screen protector from Lumitector probably a month ago. They charged my credit card right away, but I haven't received it yet. Anyone else have this problem?

Thanks,
Alan
;)

[Burdie]

Alan:

Yes - I have the same problem, as does jasguild. I don't know if Anita got her Lumitectors - she had some posts earlier in this thread.

I also ended up contacting my credit card company and getting a refund (from the crdit card).

I would not recommend anyone buy Lumitectors. Their behaviour makes them seem to be either incompetent or deceitful.

Burdie

[jasguild]

The thing that bug me out is I really wanted the product. It really look like a product I would have liked especially the glow in the dark graffiti area.

I tried brando and G2 and they are both above average. However the lumitector appeared to be the best. Of course it is only good if you can actually get one.

If they get their crap together I would reorder again. IN the mean time, I will use my Brando.

jasguild

[Anita]

Originally posted by Burdie

I don't know if Anita got her Lumitectors - she had some posts earlier in this thread.


No, I never did. Ordered them in um, mid-December? I had my credit card company credit me (I'd ordered two or two sets or whatever. . .Anyway, it was $18). I never got a response to e-mails. Credit refund was a breeze, just filled out the little form on the back of the monthly statement, said I'd never received the merchandise.

I put the G2 on my T665c. I really like it -- BIG step up from Writerights <G>. Considering the number of hairy animals in my house (I even have dog hair in my freezer, I kid you not ), I was amazed I managed to get one on with no hair and no lint.

Anita

[jasguild]

My G2 got smeared much more easily than the Brando and would be moving all over the place. I currently have Brando on despite the fact that it is not as clear as the G2

Jasguild

[Mastervtec]

I just got my screen protectors from freescreenprotectors.com, they are like $12 with shipping, so not free, BUTT, they seem to be pretty good!!

[DarkDynamo]

I just bought Fellowes Writeright protectors yesterday and I have not one complaint. At first there was a lot of bubbles that I couldn't get out even with that credit card thingy they give you. But I was like. "Hey, i Rather have a few bubbles than a crappy screen. And after using it, the bubbles started to disappear!! I can't complain at all!!

[KEVIN88GT]

i just got my boxwave screen protector and so far it's great...does anyone know the proper cleaning procedure for them...washing etc etc... and i have one little fuzz hair under neath...can i get it out with an air gun?

[Jayman]

I like my fellows screen protectors, a little milky but I love the texture.

[Mastervtec]

Fellows are so expensive.

[hampants]

is the luminector scratch proof like the g2? has anyone used it for an extended period of time? otherwise, it looks like the best of all worlds.

for the record, i installed my g2 with no problem, but it definitely DOES move around. every once in a while, i find the top edge peeking out, and have to move it back up, worrying each time that i am scratching the screen i am trying to protect with the dust underneath.

[Pete]

Hi all,

This is how I protect my 665c and my Palm Vx: I cut a piece of transparencies (just a little bigger than the screen) and slip it into the screen between the screen and the metal case. It's very clear and provides good protection to the screen. It's also inexpensive. Don't waste your money on the protection products. Do it yourself! :)

Pete

[riversen]

No one responded to my previous email. Does anyone think that there is a better screen protector than the Sony ones. I like them, but they get scratched very quickly. I use Jot, so I like to write all over my screen. Any recommendation... and yes, I am willing to pay more for quality. Thanks in advance, Robert.

[im4givn]

Ordered my Lumitector in early February and still haven't received it. No response to 5 emails.

[VLevyNYC]

Originally posted by riversen
No one responded to my previous email. Does anyone think that there is a better screen protector than the Sony ones. I like them, but they get scratched very quickly. I use Jot, so I like to write all over my screen. Any recommendation... and yes, I am willing to pay more for quality. Thanks in advance, Robert.

I use the G2 and like it alot. Theres a bit of glare, but the recognition is fantastic. I threw out the Sony protector I had.

[iStormy]

I originally used the Brando on my S-320. When I upgraded to a T-615, however, I didn't want to obscure my fabulous new screen with a cloudy overlay, so I went with the G2.

I used the G2 for about 10 months. My Graffiti recognition was abysmal, often having to write a letter 2 or 3 times to get recognition. Writing was literally a drag, because the screen grabs the stylus and it didn't want to glide over the surface. I also had to double-tap fairly often for it to register once. And while the screen was crystal clear, it was SO glossy that it was often difficult to see my beautiful screen due to reflections, and I was always tilting the screen thisaway and thataway.

Everytime I used my old S-320 (my wife's now) I marvelled at the silky smooth glide of the stylus and the quick & easy grafitti recognition, and hated to go back to my G2.

So I bought a Brando for my T-615 this week, and it's a world of difference. Sure, it's a bit cloudy, but it's so much easier to see and read without all the reflections and glare. It's a real treat. My Graffiti accuracy has easily doubled. Single taps now register. And I didn't have to worry about scratching my screen during installation, a real risk with the G2.

So don't worry about the cloudiness of the Brando, and just buy it. Being crystal clear is not worth the reduction in usability.

I know nothing about that new Luminol (?) protector, sorry.

[vitoosu]

I use post-it note. Just cut to size for the grafitti area. Use the sticky side. You can cut it a bit long to insert under the cover below the grafitti are. Work great also. Last about 2 to 4 weeks. Many color to choose from.

[bobbd]

Originally posted by iStormy
I originally used the Brando on my S-320. When I upgraded to a T-615, however, I didn't want to obscure my fabulous new screen with a cloudy overlay, so I went with the G2.
So don't worry about the cloudiness of the Brando, and just buy it. Being crystal clear is not worth the reduction in usability.
I suggest trying the BoxWave. I too used the G2 and while I like the protection and non-stickiness, it affected my writing as it did you. The BoxWave seems to be a good compromise if you like post-it type sticky screen protectors (i.e. removable).

Bob

[Unregistered]

Scoth Tape #811
is fantastic
feels so nice to graffitize on
so cheap and yet works so well.

[BoxWave]

*Cleaning instructions* :). The best of us get a bit of dust under there from time to time.

Try rinsing it off (you can wash the protector), and gently brushing your screen with a fabric with longer, firmer threads that aren't prone to breaking off and adding to the mess.

Just my $.02.

Best,

Wing

[jasguild]

I waited 5 months for my Lumitector before I got enough. I called my credit card company and was given a refund. That was about 4 months ago.

Yesterday I went to their website and saw that they have a new billing intermediary. I will try my luck again. I really want this product. It is only $11 and if they are still inefficient, I will call and get back my money again.

I also tried G2 and Brando. G2 moved around too much for me and smeared too easy. It was crystal clear though. Brando was more durable, stays in one place but kind of milky. I use my pda to view alot of photos so I dont like this.

Jasguild

[GRDORI]

On my T-665C (T-615 before that) I use the Innopocket protector. First, I tried the Fellowes Writerights (all wrong) there are 12 to a pack for a reason. I then tried Innopocket's ST-0601, only one to a pack but easier to apply than the Writerights and they also reduced glare without interfering with image quality. Soon after getting this protector on, I gashed it, apparently with a sharp piece of grit between the stylus and the screen (protector). I decided to try Sony's PEGA-SP60, these were similar to the Innopocket style but were thinner, upon use, these protectors immediatly showed scratches (I use sketcher to jot notes), additionally, the adhesive seemed to come off at the edges. I returned the Sony protector and ordered more of the Innopocket protectors. From posts I've read and reviews I've seen the Innopocket version is similar to the Brando and Boxwave protectors some think that the Sony protector is the same, but the Sonys don't seem to be scratch resistant (probably becauset they're thinner.) To each his own!