Latest CF driver and bluetooth

[rmchale]

Hello,

I was wondering if the latest CF driver works with the bluetooth card? I am looking to play MP3s and SMS message away....

Ryan

[MMHein]

Is there any CF driver already available?

Currently I am using a 128MB Memory Stick with my Clié, and I am intending to add some bluetooth support to the very same device.

Unfortunately nearly all of my applications and data are residing on the MS, so when I want to use bluetooth, I have to have some bluetooth MS, hence I cannot use my memory MS at the same time, right?

The solution to this would be either using a CF-II bluetooth adaptor in conjunction with my memory MS, or vice versa!

So, if you have got the latest CF-II driver for die Clié please let me know where you have got it from, and share your experiences with me.

[jmg_NX21]

Oooohh, you have to JOIN us in the COMPACT FLASH forum... soo far it's been AMAZING. not Perfect but ayasin & eruware.com has been a customer friendly (and cliesource friendly) company...

[rmchale]

Originally posted by jmg_NX21
Oooohh, you have to JOIN us in the COMPACT FLASH forum... soo far it's been AMAZING. not Perfect but ayasin & eruware.com has been a customer friendly (and cliesource friendly) company...

Really so BT & CF? Do you need to use "Trick mode" now or does it work with "dual mode" ?

Ryan

[Eddy]

Originally posted by mmHein
So, if you have got the latest CF-II driver for die Cli$B!&(Bplease let me know where you have got it from, and share your experiences with me.

The latest version is ver1.2 posted right on the front page of ClieSource. www.eruware.com
Originally posted by rmchale
Really so BT & CF? Do you need to use "Trick mode" now or does it work with "dual mode" ?
Although I don't have BT MS myself, I assume it would work just the same under MS Cloaking with the "trick". Not sure about the dual mode :D

[jmg_NX21]

DOES any beta tester have a BT MS???

I do not know if it currently does work...

[Eddy]

I think there're many BT owners out there... :D

[n2ifp]

I know Greg has an NZ90, but I have no idea if any of the other testers have the BTMS. I am an 802.11b WiFi WLAN MAN.

[Eddy]

I am an 802.11b WiFi WLAN MAN.
whatever happened to Bluetoothless? :D

[herpalm]

Has anyone answered the question will the bluetooth compact flash card work with the new version cf driver?

[lookman]

Works fine. Have 1.2 (beta) and hotsync via bluetooth with my notebook.

Have not tried dial-up yet.

[rmchale]

Originally posted by lookman
Works fine. Have 1.2 (beta) and hotsync via bluetooth with my notebook.

Have not tried dial-up yet.

Have you tried MP3s on the CF and SMSing at the same time?

[MikeD]

This is great!! This is exactly what I've been looking for. I'm planning on upgrading from my NR70 to the new NX80 and if there's a driver where I can use a Bluetooth CF card or combo (BT and WiFi) I'm all over it. I know Sony wouldn't support such a thing.

I know I can get a BT memory stick.. But that thing sticks out the side and wouldn't be good when I put it in my PortaGrip (grips cellphones, iPods, and PDAs in your car) as it would probably break it.

Mike

[lookman]

Originally posted by rmchale


Have you tried MP3s on the CF and SMSing at the same time?


Crash with soft reset the first time.

Tried second time and it hangs !!!! Need to do a soft reset

It's buggy

[gunmetal]

Bluetooth CF cards won't work with the driver but you can use a bluetooth memory stick with a CF memory card. It works for most applications but you still can't use AudioPlayer because it reports it as a data only memory stick. MoviePlayer does work. I've got v1.2 of the driver and a BT ms if you want me to check anything else.

[rmchale]

Originally posted by gunmetal
Bluetooth CF cards won't work with the driver but you can use a bluetooth memory stick with a CF memory card. It works for most applications but you still can't use AudioPlayer because it reports it as a data only memory stick. MoviePlayer does work. I've got v1.2 of the driver and a BT ms if you want me to check anything else.

Could that be fixed in the driver? You are saying "dual mode" reports the actual memory stick as data-only?

Ryan

[gunmetal]

Originally posted by rmchale


Could that be fixed in the driver? You are saying "dual mode" reports the actual memory stick as data-only?

Ryan

It works fine for most apps but Audioplayer and a few others will not see a valid memory stick if the BT stick is installed even if you use dual mode or masquerading. They appear to check the memory stick slot directly bypassing the masquerading code. I've reported it to Eruware but no indication that it could be fixed. I believe Movie recorder and the camera app do the same thing. Clie Files, MoviePlayer, the built-in Launcher and most others work fine.

[Unregistered]

Originally posted by rmchale


Have you tried MP3s on the CF and SMSing at the same time?

Audio player seems to require a memory MS in the MS slot to be able to read MP3s from a CF. So, when a comm MS card such as Bluetooth is in the MS slot, Audio Player does not find any MP3s on the CF. Which is a shame, since with version 1.2 MS Cloaking is not necessary any more and I hoped this SMSing while MP3ing would have been possible...

[bigfathavana]

I agree with you MMHein. I'd rather deal with a BT CF card and data storage MS than the other way around due to the very issues presented by our fellow members here regarding things not working or working optimally. I've read that the MS Pro has a faster transfer rate than CF. I see that many members have added BT CF to the CF driver wish list. So maybe I am not alone here? Any thoughts?

[rmchale]

Originally posted by bigfathavana
I agree with you MMHein. I'd rather deal with a BT CF card and data storage MS than the other way around due to the very issues presented by our fellow members here regarding things not working or working optimally. I've read that the MS Pro has a faster transfer rate than CF. I see that many members have added BT CF to the CF driver wish list. So maybe I am not alone here? Any thoughts?

As long as I can BT and MP3 I don't care if its CF BT or an MS BT..

Ryan

[cyg]

Originally posted by rmchale


As long as I can BT and MP3 I don't care if its CF BT or an MS BT..

Ryan


i was a few disappointed... cannot bt and mp3 at the same time even with our beloved driver...

:(

[MMHein]

Originally posted by lookman
Works fine. Have 1.2 (beta) and hotsync via bluetooth with my notebook.

Have not tried dial-up yet.

Which BT CF card are you using?
Do you use it in parallel with a MS?
Where can I get the appropriate BT driver for PalmOS 5 on my NX70?

I'm really wondering what is the most appropriate and future oriented approach: 1) BT CF and Memory MS, or 2) the other way round, Memory CF and BT MS?

Any ideas?

[Eddy]

Memory CF and BT MS?
I think this will most likely be the case since Memory with CF is already possible with eruware, just need time to fine tweak it.
Though I've not yet invested in BT yet, but all these talks about them are getting me interested in getting a BT MS for my NX70V so that I can connect online via GPRS with a bluetooth enabled phone. :D

[Slugman]

I use the CF driver alongside my BT MS, and just thought I could add to a few points above.

I think that when you enter MS Masquerading / Cloaking mode, the CF driver pretends to be whatever mode the MS slot is currently in. For example, when you stick in a standard memory MS, the MS slot is in "memory" mode. When you stick in an I/O MS like the BT MS, the MS slot is in an "I/O" mode. If you enable MS Masquerading / Cloaking whilst you have an I/O MS in the slot, the CF driver is then pretending to be an I/O MS.

Some programs such as Movie Recorder, Voice Recorder, Camera and AudioPlayer check to see what kind of MS is in the slot, and if it sees an I/O MS, reports back that you can't record to that kind of MS (in the case of Movie Recorder, Voice Recorder and the Camera anyway). So if your CF driver is pretending to be an I/O MS, you'll get the same message.

Some programs such as Clie Viewer and Movie Player don't appear to bother to check the type of stick in the slot, probably because it doesn't really need to - if you tried to record to an I/O MS then you'd probably get a crash, but if you tried to see what files were on an I/O MS, it would just come up blank.

Or maybe I'm completely wrong, but that's what appears to happen.

Ben

[Eddy]

so this I/O such as BT MS only happens in MS cloaking right? so if it was in Dual mode then shouldn't be any problem? thanks for the info, I'm really thinking about going for the BT with GPRS service. this would be good news... more toys to fiddle around with. :D

[Slugman]

Yep dual mode works fine - used it over the weekend to watch The Two Towers on the train to visit my folks.

I felt pretty cool on the train, probably looked like a show-off idiot though.

Dual mode is great.

[rmchale]

Originally posted by Slugman
Yep dual mode works fine - used it over the weekend to watch The Two Towers on the train to visit my folks.

I felt pretty cool on the train, probably looked like a show-off idiot though.

Dual mode is great.

But just to beat a dead horse.. It doesn't work with AudioPlayer?

Ryan

[Slugman]

Hi Ryan,

Though I haven't tried it (at all), apparently MP3s play ok in dual mode.

So I can't tell you yet if MP3s will play from CF whilst you're using the BT MS but I'll try and give it a go soon, and report back. Unfortunately from this thread I was under the impression that this did not work very well, but we shall soon see.

Ben

[rmchale]

Originally posted by Slugman
Hi Ryan,

Though I haven't tried it (at all), apparently MP3s play ok in dual mode.

So I can't tell you yet if MP3s will play from CF whilst you're using the BT MS but I'll try and give it a go soon, and report back. Unfortunately from this thread I was under the impression that this did not work very well, but we shall soon see.

Ben

Hi,

I have the driver.. and dual mode with MP3s ok.. I am debating on getting teh BT card..

Ryan

[Eddy]

yeah, it's tempting with all these issues about the BT, wouldn't mind to give it a try. :D

[Slugman]

Ok I just had a play and did a bit of research through the forums. It appears that in order to get MP3s playing from the CF in dual MS mode you need an MS inserted as well.

Of course if like me you only have a BT MS then Audioplayer still seems to think it's an I/O MS and reports "No Memory Stick".

:(

Then my thoughts turned to Movie Player - it should be vaguely similar, if not a little more intense.

First I mounted the CF, then mounted the BT MS. Tried starting a movie up off the CF but couldn't get it to play, and had to soft reset. I tried a few different combinations such as using Clie Viewer to start the movie etc. but to no avail.

Then I tried mounting the BT MS, then mounting the CF. The movie started up fine. I backed out and started up Netfront, made a network connection, then exited and started the movie up again. The movie played, so I then backed out again and started Netfront - the network connection was still conncted.

Now this doesn't actually help anyone, as there would have been very little data travelling across the BT link whilst the movie was playing...

...but at least this proves it is possible to access the CF card for multimedia whilst the BT MS is connected.

Umm, I guess that's it. Feel a bit like I've just wasted the last 45 mins... Oh well. Once I get hold of a normal MS I'll try audioplayer in the background whilst surfing, but I guess it means we'll have to: Mount CF, mount MS, start audioplayer, remove MS, insert BT MS (and probably do a soft reset at that point when audioplayer doesn't like having the normal MS removed, but you never know!).

Ben

[gunmetal]

Originally posted by Slugman
Umm, I guess that's it. Feel a bit like I've just wasted the last 45 mins... Oh well. Once I get hold of a normal MS I'll try audioplayer in the background whilst surfing, but I guess it means we'll have to: Mount CF, mount MS, start audioplayer, remove MS, insert BT MS (and probably do a soft reset at that point when audioplayer doesn't like having the normal MS removed, but you never know!).

Ben

Actually even this doesn't work very well. If you insert a normal memory stick and enable MS cloaking you can start mp3s off the CF card. If you then switch to the BT memory stick the current mp3 will continue to play until you access the BT stick for anything. I then get a fatal exception and it soft resets. I've never found any way to play mp3s and access the BT stick. Unless someone ports a BT CF card I think we're screwed on any attempt to combine mp3 and BT, except for the TG or NZ series. Audioplayer must check the MS slot directly and always sees an I/O stick if it's inserted.